The Nuggets’ Future Without Jokic, Loving the Game, and a LeBron–Jimmy Butler Trade?

Game Over with Max Kellerman and Rich Paul

Game Over closes out 2025 by diving into the Nikola Jokic injury: What does it mean for the Nuggets and could it be a blessing in disguise (6:13)? Then, the fellas discuss athletes reaching their potential, particularly in the cases of Cam Reddish and Ben Simmons (18:56). Rich subsequently breaks down the difference in perception when it comes to a player’s journey versus what their ultimate goal may be. Do professional athletes want to play in their hometown; should Anthony Davis try and work his way back home to Chicago? Bill Simmons later offers up a spicy trade for Max and Rich to ponder—who would say no to a LeBron James and Jimmy Butler trade (43:44)? All this, plus a quick take on the CFP quarterfinals, then Max has a win-win way to make your New Year’s resolution!


Hosts: Max Kellerman and Rich Paul

Producers: Jack Wilson, Trevor Rabone, Jon Jones, and Devon Baroldi

Director of Photography: Neal Lett


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Game Over closes out 2025 by diving into the Nikola Jokic injury: What does it mean for the Nuggets and could it be a blessing in disguise (6:13)? Then, the fellas discuss athletes reaching their potential, particularly in the cases of Cam Reddish and Ben Simmons (18:56). Rich subsequently breaks down the difference in perception when it comes to a player’s journey versus what their ultimate goal may be. Do professional athletes want to play in their hometown; should Anthony Davis try and work his way back home to Chicago? Bill Simmons later offers up a spicy trade for Max and Rich to ponder—who would say no to a LeBron James and Jimmy Butler trade (43:44)? All this, plus a quick take on the CFP quarterfinals, then Max has a win-win way to make your New Year’s resolution!


Hosts: Max Kellerman and Rich Paul

Producers: Jack Wilson, Trevor Rabone, Jon Jones, and Devon Baroldi

Director of Photography: Neal Lett


The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available.

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2025-12-31 63 min
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