099: Deep Chats with a Sex Therapist: Spontaneous Vs. Responsive Desire, Kink and Internalized Shame, and Ketamine Assisted Therapy
In this episode, Elle and Vee dive deep with a psychotherapist who they refer to as Wonder Woman on this episode for the sake of anonymity. With specializations in sex therapy and ketamine-assisted psychotherapy, the girls pick her brain on everything from desire discrepancy to the most common issues within couples, from what a ketamine-assisted psychotherapy session actually looks like to neuroplasticity.
Psychotherapy vs. Psychoanalysis: what is the difference? (1:58)
Top reasons couples seek sex therapy counseling: both gay and cis-het couples, and individuals. (5:15)
Spontaneous desire vs responsive desire: a dive into libido differences and desire discrepancy. (6:25)
Is there a way to get spontaneous desire back? Esther Perel’s Mating in Captivity. (13:33)
The Dual Control Model (Sexual Brakes and Accelerators): a concept from Emily Nagoski’s book Come As You Are and her 2nd book Come Together. (20:57)
Kink and shame: how to bring you kinky desires up to your partner and working through internalized shame. (26:12)
Kink as shadows: how roleplaying can help one work through shame with reframing and control. (30:02)
Kink isn’t always about processing something. Heteroflexible male-male play as a “taboo kink”. (31:27)
Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy: how to use it properly, and how it’s being done irresponsibly. (35:17)
How neuroplasticity works in the brain using the snow track analogy by Michael Pollan, author of the book How to Change Your Mind. (47:24)
Ketamine Assisted Couples Psychotherapy. (53:02)
Final Nugget: Keeping the idea of play and pleasure at the forefront. (53:57)
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In this episode, Elle and Vee dive deep with a psychotherapist who they refer to as Wonder Woman on this episode for the sake of anonymity. With specializations in sex therapy and ketamine-assisted psychotherapy, the girls pick her brain on everything from desire discrepancy to the most common issues within couples, from what a ketamine-assisted psychotherapy session actually looks like to neuroplasticity.
Psychotherapy vs. Psychoanalysis: what is the difference? (1:58)
Top reasons couples seek sex therapy counseling: both gay and cis-het couples, and individuals. (5:15)
Spontaneous desire vs responsive desire: a dive into libido differences and desire discrepancy. (6:25)
Is there a way to get spontaneous desire back? Esther Perel’s Mating in Captivity. (13:33)
The Dual Control Model (Sexual Brakes and Accelerators): a concept from Emily Nagoski’s book Come As You Are and her 2nd book Come Together. (20:57)
Kink and shame: how to bring you kinky desires up to your partner and working through internalized shame. (26:12)
Kink as shadows: how roleplaying can help one work through shame with reframing and control. (30:02)
Kink isn’t always about processing something. Heteroflexible male-male play as a “taboo kink”. (31:27)
Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy: how to use it properly, and how it’s being done irresponsibly. (35:17)
How neuroplasticity works in the brain using the snow track analogy by Michael Pollan, author of the book How to Change Your Mind. (47:24)
Ketamine Assisted Couples Psychotherapy. (53:02)
Final Nugget: Keeping the idea of play and pleasure at the forefront. (53:57)
______
How to Support the Show:
💰 Donate Here
💋Linktree: https://linktr.ee/girlsgonedeep
🎧 Instagram: @girlsgonedeeppod
🛍️ Merch: girlsgonedeep.com/shop — wear your kinks proudly.
🍑 Woo More Play: Shop with our affiliate link
— support the pod while you stock up on your favorite pleasure essentials.
🪄 WAANDS™: Crystal Pleasure Products HERE. Get 15% off with code GIRLSGONEDEEP
🔮 WHOREible Life: Get 10% off your game deck with code GONEDEEP at whoreiblelife.com IG: @wlthegame
🔥 Naughty Disco’s Sexy NYC Dance Party: code GONEDEEP69 for 15% off any event ticket IG: @naughtydisco
💌 Contact: girlsgonedeep@gmail.com
© 2025 GGD Alchemy, LLC. All Rights Reserved.
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