Becoming Toby | "Toby" (305) with special guest Director Chris Koch

That Was Us

On today’s episode of That Was Us, we have special guest, Director Chris Koch, breaking down Season 3, Episode 5: “Toby.” In this episode, the hosts talk about Toby’s mental health issues and how that affects his relationship with Kate. They also cover what it was like for Sterling as his character took on a big arc in the show, campaigning for City Councilman. Plus, Chris Koch talks about directing this episode and what he remembers working with the cast, his involvement in shaping each episode, how his directing style differs from others, and how his personal background helped inform his approach to the show.


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That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith.


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On today’s episode of That Was Us, we have special guest, Director Chris Koch, breaking down Season 3, Episode 5: “Toby.” In this episode, the hosts talk about Toby’s mental health issues and how that affects his relationship with Kate. They also cover what it was like for Sterling as his character took on a big arc in the show, campaigning for City Councilman. Plus, Chris Koch talks about directing this episode and what he remembers working with the cast, his involvement in shaping each episode, how his directing style differs from others, and how his personal background helped inform his approach to the show.


Support our sponsors:

  • Build the best summer ever with KiwiCo! Get $15 off on your Summer Adventure Series at kiwico.com/TWU
  • This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/TWU and get on your way to being your best self.


That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith.


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2025-05-27 85 min
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