2 Chainz | Ms. Love Picked Up the Phone

The Person Who Believed In Me

Six letters went to the Clayton County school board on behalf of a senior facing expulsion under a zero-tolerance drug policy. One of them came from his college prep geometry teacher, whose actual last name was Love, and it made the argument plainly: don't throw this child's life away, give him a second chance. The student was Tauheed Epps. He'd been arrested at fifteen with cocaine and again at seventeen for selling five-dollar bags of weed at school. He was also carrying A's, perfect attendance, and basketball scholarship offers.

They let him stay. He lost Memphis and went to Alabama State instead, where a coaching staff that recruited him got fired almost immediately and he lost his love for the game — and where he met the woman he married. In this conversation with David Begnaud, 2 Chainz talks about why he wouldn't change any of it, about his mother noticing him bagging up the night before the arrest and asking twice whether he was sure, and about the four generations of hustle behind him — bootleg liquor at his great-grandparents' house, then his grandparents, then a mother who married a drug dealer — that stopped with him.

Then Begnaud asks whether they can call Ms. Love right now, on camera, without warning. He hadn't planned to. She picks up.

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The Person Who Believed In Me is hosted by David Begnaud, founder and CEO of Do Good Crew and often called "America's storyteller." In each episode, David sits down with world-class guests to ask one simple question: Who believed in you before the world did? Big names. Honest stories. Relatable takeaways. Different paths — same question.

David is also a CBS News contributor and host of the weekly segment Beg Knows America, which airs every Monday morning.

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Host: David Begnaud

Guest: 2 Chainz

Executive Producer: Olivier Delfosse

Associate Producer: Jonah Johnson

Booker: Sully Bloch

Director of Social: Mariah Maull

Director of Photography: Foster Parks

Live Production Technician: Joseph Gabay & Will Whitley (Statik Creative)

Post-Production: Longwave Digital

Theme Music: Slipstream

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Six letters went to the Clayton County school board on behalf of a senior facing expulsion under a zero-tolerance drug policy. One of them came from his college prep geometry teacher, whose actual last name was Love, and it made the argument plainly: don't throw this child's life away, give him a second chance. The student was Tauheed Epps. He'd been arrested at fifteen with cocaine and again at seventeen for selling five-dollar bags of weed at school. He was also carrying A's, perfect attendance, and basketball scholarship offers.

They let him stay. He lost Memphis and went to Alabama State instead, where a coaching staff that recruited him got fired almost immediately and he lost his love for the game — and where he met the woman he married. In this conversation with David Begnaud, 2 Chainz talks about why he wouldn't change any of it, about his mother noticing him bagging up the night before the arrest and asking twice whether he was sure, and about the four generations of hustle behind him — bootleg liquor at his great-grandparents' house, then his grandparents, then a mother who married a drug dealer — that stopped with him.

Then Begnaud asks whether they can call Ms. Love right now, on camera, without warning. He hadn't planned to. She picks up.

Chapters ☀️


ABOUT THIS PODCAST:
The Person Who Believed In Me is hosted by David Begnaud, founder and CEO of Do Good Crew and often called "America's storyteller." In each episode, David sits down with world-class guests to ask one simple question: Who believed in you before the world did? Big names. Honest stories. Relatable takeaways. Different paths — same question.

David is also a CBS News contributor and host of the weekly segment Beg Knows America, which airs every Monday morning.

Get more stories that remind you the world is still good. Sign up for our free newsletter: www.thedogoodcrew.com

Thank you to Canva for believing in the power of storytelling and helping us bring this podcast to life: https://canva.com

Host: David Begnaud

Guest: 2 Chainz

Executive Producer: Olivier Delfosse

Associate Producer: Jonah Johnson

Booker: Sully Bloch

Director of Social: Mariah Maull

Director of Photography: Foster Parks

Live Production Technician: Joseph Gabay & Will Whitley (Statik Creative)

Post-Production: Longwave Digital

Theme Music: Slipstream

CONNECT WITH US:

The Person Who Believed In Me:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/believedpodcast

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