DOJ vs. Trump: The Indictment That Never Came (with Glenn Kirschner)

The Oath and The Office

The indictment that never came is still shaping DOJ’s ongoing battle with Trump.

In the first half, Corey Brettschneider and John Fugelsang break down this week’s accountability flashpoints:
  • The push to impeach DHS Secretary Kristi Noem — what impeaching a cabinet official actually means and why it matters now
  • The Supreme Court fight tied to the FTC with huge stakes for independent agencies and the question of whether a president can threaten the Federal Reserve
  • The looming tariff decision — and how tariffs are being used as political leverage, including in Trump’s pressure campaign involving Greenland
Then Corey and John are joined by Glenn Kirschner (former federal prosecutor) for a blunt, inside-the-system conversation about:
  • What went wrong with Robert Mueller
  • The decision not to indict Trump — and the precedent it set
  • How DOJ “corruption” happens in real life: pressure, incentives, normalization
  • The hardest moral call for public servants: stay and fight, or resign and warn the country
If the law won’t check power, what will?
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The indictment that never came is still shaping DOJ’s ongoing battle with Trump.

In the first half, Corey Brettschneider and John Fugelsang break down this week’s accountability flashpoints:
  • The push to impeach DHS Secretary Kristi Noem — what impeaching a cabinet official actually means and why it matters now
  • The Supreme Court fight tied to the FTC with huge stakes for independent agencies and the question of whether a president can threaten the Federal Reserve
  • The looming tariff decision — and how tariffs are being used as political leverage, including in Trump’s pressure campaign involving Greenland
Then Corey and John are joined by Glenn Kirschner (former federal prosecutor) for a blunt, inside-the-system conversation about:
  • What went wrong with Robert Mueller
  • The decision not to indict Trump — and the precedent it set
  • How DOJ “corruption” happens in real life: pressure, incentives, normalization
  • The hardest moral call for public servants: stay and fight, or resign and warn the country
If the law won’t check power, what will?
2026-01-22 71 min Transcript
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