ZOOM's CMO!! 🎯 Stop Calling It a Webinar 🍿 SPECIAL GUEST! Kimberly Storin | Ep. 492

Do This, NOT That: Marketing Tips with Jay Schwedelson

Zoom became a verb for a reason, but most people are still sleeping on what it can actually do. Kimberly Storin, the CMO of Zoom, joined Jay Schwedelson with a take that might make you rethink your entire webinar strategy - the problem was never the format. It's the death spiral of treating every webinar like a lead machine. There's a smarter way to play it, and it starts with a phrase most marketers have never heard: preference formation.

Follow Kimberly Storin on LinkedIn for her takes on modern marketing, webinar strategy, and building a brand at scale. Check out Zoom's webinar and virtual events platform if you haven't looked at it beyond the meetings product.

Best Moments:

(03:34) Why "most webinars deserve to die" is actually about behavior, not the format itself

(06:00) The idea that buying decisions are already made before a prospect ever wants to talk to you - and what that means for your webinars

(12:45) Why segmenting your webinar strategy by audience type is just as important as segmenting your email list

(15:04) The CMO of Zoom just said don't call it a webinar when you're trying to get someone to show up

(17:17) Kim's monthly "table talk" playbook - including the one question she asks every guest that gets 50 CMOs typing in the chat instantly

(18:49) The data point that should change how you think about chat engagement - people who comment go to the pipeline faster

Partner with Jay: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/contact

Check out Jay Schwedelson's new book: Stupider People Have Done It

All net proceeds are donated to The V Foundation for Cancer Research, let's kick cancer's butt: https://www.amazon.com/Stupider-People-Have-Done-Marketing/dp/1637635206

Subscribe to Jay's newsletter for weekly marketing tips and tactics: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/newsletter

Register for GuruConference (FREE + VIRTUAL!) https://www.guruconference.com

Check out Eventastic (FREE + VIRTUAL!) https://www.eventastic.com

Connect with Jay on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/

Check out Jay's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelson

Check out Jay's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/

Ask Jay anything: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/ask

Leave a comment and follow the show, it really helps us out!

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Zoom became a verb for a reason, but most people are still sleeping on what it can actually do. Kimberly Storin, the CMO of Zoom, joined Jay Schwedelson with a take that might make you rethink your entire webinar strategy - the problem was never the format. It's the death spiral of treating every webinar like a lead machine. There's a smarter way to play it, and it starts with a phrase most marketers have never heard: preference formation.

Follow Kimberly Storin on LinkedIn for her takes on modern marketing, webinar strategy, and building a brand at scale. Check out Zoom's webinar and virtual events platform if you haven't looked at it beyond the meetings product.

Best Moments:

(03:34) Why "most webinars deserve to die" is actually about behavior, not the format itself

(06:00) The idea that buying decisions are already made before a prospect ever wants to talk to you - and what that means for your webinars

(12:45) Why segmenting your webinar strategy by audience type is just as important as segmenting your email list

(15:04) The CMO of Zoom just said don't call it a webinar when you're trying to get someone to show up

(17:17) Kim's monthly "table talk" playbook - including the one question she asks every guest that gets 50 CMOs typing in the chat instantly

(18:49) The data point that should change how you think about chat engagement - people who comment go to the pipeline faster

Partner with Jay: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/contact

Check out Jay Schwedelson's new book: Stupider People Have Done It

All net proceeds are donated to The V Foundation for Cancer Research, let's kick cancer's butt: https://www.amazon.com/Stupider-People-Have-Done-Marketing/dp/1637635206

Subscribe to Jay's newsletter for weekly marketing tips and tactics: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/newsletter

Register for GuruConference (FREE + VIRTUAL!) https://www.guruconference.com

Check out Eventastic (FREE + VIRTUAL!) https://www.eventastic.com

Connect with Jay on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/

Check out Jay's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelson

Check out Jay's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/

Ask Jay anything: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/ask

Leave a comment and follow the show, it really helps us out!

2026-04-16 21 min Transcript
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