House of R

This pod is burdened with glorious purpose! It is time for Mal and Jo to usher you into House of R's first Hall of Fame episodes and its first inductee Loki of the MCU. They break down the character and history of Loki not only in film but in all of mythology (05:31) and how it informs his place in pop culture. Later, they each give out their own superlatives such as Best Speech, best Line Delivery and so much more (53:11).

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Additional Production: Arjuna Ramgopal

Social: Jomi Adeniran

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You thought they were dead? Well, Mal and Jo are back to dive deep into the latest episode of ‘Ahsoka’ (06:56). They talk about everything that goes on in this thrilling episode leading up to the finale next week (12:54). Later they are joined by Ben to discuss the lore between Anakin and Thrawn (02:04:37) and so much more.

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Guest: Ben Lindbergh

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Additional Production: Arjuna Ramgopal

Social: Jomi Adeniran

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Jo and Mal are here for another one of their famous Tropes Courses; this time, it is the journey into portal worlds (09:13). From Narnia to Oz and so much more, they take a look at what magical, other worlds have brought to so many readers and lovers of stories throughout the years.

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Additional Production: Arjuna Ramgopal

Social: Jomi Adeniran

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If you miss the idea of the deep dive, wait no longer! Mal and Jo are back to dive into the latest episode of ‘Ahsoka’ (08:58). They dive into the riveting plot points of this pivotal episode that brings Thrawn into the world of live-action ‘Star Wars’ (12:16). Later, Ben joins to discuss the magic-based area of ‘Star Wars’ lore (02:58:51) and so much more.

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Guest: Ben Lindbergh

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Additional Production: Arjuna Ramgopal

Social: Jomi Adeniran

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Jo and Mal are back to answer your burning questions for all things 'Star Wars' and 'Ahsoka' (05:32). They take on everything from book recommendations to grammatical corrections to their ideal spinoffs—and so much more!

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Additional Production: Arjuna Ramgopal

Social: Jomi Adeniran

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Live or die. Or join Mal and Joanna as they dive deep into the fifth episode of 'Ahsoka' (07:12). They give their expert analysis on this riveting episode of the ‘Star Wars’ series, which is emotional and uplifting (16:14). Later, Ben joins once again to discuss the history of Force powers used in this episode (03:06:07).

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Guest: Ben Lindbergh

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Additional Production: Arjuna Ramgopal

Social: Jomi Adeniran

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Mal and Joanna are joined by Van Lathan to draft the greatest droids in all of 'Star Wars' lore (30:38). Join them as they celebrate the best robotic companions a galaxy far, far away has to offer, and see who will be crowned champion.

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Guest: Van Lathan

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Additional Production: Arjuna Ramgopal

Social: Jomi Adeniran

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Hey there Snips! It's time to dive deep into the fourth episode of 'Ahsoka' (08:53). Mal and Jo venture into deep space and discuss the riveting episode that takes our hero away from her apprentice and causes strife within (15:39). Much later, Ben Lindbergh joins for a discussion of the final scene in the world between worlds (02:49:18)

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Guest: Ben Lindbergh

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Additional Production: Arjuna Ramgopal

Social: Jomi Adeniran

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The Time Lord has come in the form of Matt Smith, so Joanna and Mal are here to dive deep into the era of the eleventh Doctor. They cover Seasons 5 through 7 of the beloved BBC series in Part 4 of their 'Doctor Who' Viewing Guide (08:12).

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Additional Production: Arjuna Ramgopal

Social: Jomi Adeniran

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The purrgils are here! Join Mal and Jo as they dive deep into ‘Ahsoka’ Episode 3, "Time to Fly" (17:40). They talk about Hera’s rough day at the office, Sabine’s training with Ahsoka, and of course, purrgils. Later, Ben Lindbergh joins for a lore look into other characters who were weak in the Force (2:15:48).

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Guest: Ben Lindbergh

Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga

Additional Production: Arjuna Ramgopal and Steve Ahlman

Social: Jomi Adeniran

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Jo and Mal are back to get you hyped about all the upcoming releases this fall and winter with their 2023 Fall and Winter Hype Meter (15:22). They bring you the latest and greatest they are looking forward to, along with a few surprises! Which movies or shows will make their top three (1:05:57)?

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga

Additional Production: Arjuna Ramgopal

Social: Jomi Adeniran

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Perhaps it is time to begin again! Join Mal and Jo as they dive deep—DEEP—into the much-anticipated two-part 'Ahsoka' series premiere, parsing what we learn about Ahsoka and Sabine's past as Master and Apprentice, praising Baylan and Shin as new arrivals in the 'Star Wars' canon, and, of course, gushing over the smash-hit Loth-Cat. Later, Ben Lindbergh joins for a lore look into what might await beyond the Pathway to Peridea.

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Guest: Ben Lindbergh

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Additional Production: Arjuna Ramgopal

Social: Jomi Adeniran

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Mal and Jo won't leave you! Not this time! Because they're here with their first episode on the new feed for 'House of R,' exploring the moments from Ahsoka Tano's deep 'Star Wars' canon that you most need to know about before the two-part premiere of the newest Disney+ live-action 'Star Wars' show. Diving into 'The Clone Wars,' 'Rebels,' 'Tales of the Jedi,' 'The Mandalorian,' and beyond, they highlight the losses, duels, and decisions that have most substantially shaped the character, from her days as Anakin Skywalker's Padawan to her pursuit of Grand Admiral Thrawn.

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga

Additional Production: Arjuna Ramgopal

Social: Jomi Adeniran

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Hit that "follow" or "subscribe" button, Bad Babies, because House of R has a new home! Mal and Jo will now be here twice a week with the deep dives you’ve come to know and love over on The Ringer-Verse, exploring your favorite fictional universes. Get ready for even more deep dives into the latest nerd culture releases, plus plenty of Tropes Course nostalgia, Hall of Fame inductions, Hype Meters, drafts, mailbags, watch lists, top moments countdowns, recommendations, and more!

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They are no Jedi! But Mal and Jo are back to help you prep for the impending live-action 'Star Wars' series 'Ahsoka' by sharing their watch list of the most illuminating previous 'Star Wars' episodes to boot up in order to familiarize yourself with the titular Force-wielder (08:48), the Ghost crew, and the other characters who look like they'll be central to 'Ahsoka.' If you've never seen 'The Clone Wars' or 'Rebels' or even 'The Mandalorian,' this is the pod you're looking for. If you have, great news: This is also the pod you're looking for.

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Additional Production Supervision: Arjuna Ramgopal

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We are neither too prejudiced nor prideful! It is time for another ‘House of R’ deep dive into ‘Good Omens’ Season 2 (07:30)! Afterwards Mal and Jo offer up their tropes course on the "Enemies to Lovers" trope throughout literature, fandom, and fiction (63:30).

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Additional Production Supervision: Arjuna Ramgopal

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Mal and Jo open up the mailbag and answer questions about ‘Secret Invasion,’ ‘Doctor Who,’ ‘Ahsoka,’ book recommendations, and much more (17:16)!

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Producer: Isaiah Blakely

Additional Production Supervision: Arjuna Ramgopal

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Mal and Jo are back with Part 3 of their dive into 'Doctor Who.' They describe their emotions as David Tennant's run as The Doctor comes to an end (12:36), their love for Donna (49:19), and much more.

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Producer: Isaiah Blakely

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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Do you want the best? Well, you got it! Mal and Jo are here to give you each their top ten best recommendations in the world of fandom so far (12:26). From movies to shows to everything in between, they share with you all the things you need to have seen by now. They later do a trailer hype check-in with Ahsoka, ’Dune: Part 2,’ and more (96:04), then end with some ‘Secret Invasion’ talk on the latest episode (1:49:52).

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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We do not know who built the pod, but Joanna and Mal are here to find out! The House of R takes a look at the breakout sci-fi hit 'Silo' for this week's podcast (06:48). Later, they dive into the third episode of Marvel's 'Secret Invasion' to uncover the latest mystery that surrounds Nick Fury (88:18).

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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They're all here! The 'House of R' crew returns to dive deep into the second episode of 'Secret Invasion' (11:36). They discuss the origins of Gravik and Nick Fury's relationship, as well as the betrayal that came with humanity and the Skrulls (22:09). Later, they break down the Skrull Council and what influence it has on society (64:16).

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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Who’s a Skrull? Who’s a human? Mal and Jo are here to break it all down as they talk about the first episode of Marvel’s new show, ‘Secret Invasion.’ They start with a little comic and spy craft history (9:15). Then they dive deep into the episode, talking about every character and every twist and turn, including the surprising death at the end (36:18).

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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It's time to thwip into a new draft with the 'House of R' crew! Mal and Jo are joined by special guests Ben Lindbergh and Jessica Clemons to build the best 'Spider-Man' movie (33:27). From villains to mentors, accessories to antagonists, everyone will do their best to cross the vast Spider-verse to build the best movie of them all!

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Guests: Ben Lindbergh and Jessica Clemons

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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It will be different this time. Joanna and Mal swing into the Spider-Verse and offer their deep dive for 'Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse' (05:17). They analyze the critical response and discuss what they thought of the rip-roaring sequel. Then, they go character by character and discuss the newest arcs, including Miles, Gwen, and many more (50:41).

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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It's time to Allons-y, Alonso! Mal and Jo are here to offer up the second part of their dive into ‘Doctor Who’ (10:49). They dive into the genius performance of David Tennant as the tenth doctor, as well as his many companions and their wondrous adventures (83:14).

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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The hype must go on! Jo and Mal are here to ensure you are excited about all the latest releases this spring and summer with their 2023 Spring and Summer Hype Meter (16:36). They bring you the latest and greatest they are looking forward to, along with a few surprises. Which movies will make their top three (58:42)?

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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One last time, into the forever. Mal and Jo are here to discuss the third installment in the 'Guardians of the Galaxy' franchise (06:21). They discuss the Rocket-centered adventure that sees off many of our heroes and introduces the heartbreaking origin of our furry friend. They also talk about the dynamics of the Guardians as a whole throughout their MCU films and how it all culminates in this beautiful send-off.

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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From swords to scabbards to hammers, and everything in between, it's time for Jo and Mal to dive deep into the trope of magical weapons and all they have to offer the stories we love. They examine the scope of the trope (06:04) and all of the great stories that come with them. Later they talk about the worthiness of those who use these magical weapons, forging and reforging, and so much more.

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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It’s time for Mal and Jo to take one more dip into the living waters of Mandalore for the Season 3 finale of ‘The Mandalorian.’ They dive deep, discussing everything in the episode from the fate of the darksaber to Gideon’s clones and Grogu’s adoption. They also talk about their thoughts on the season as a whole. Later, they are joined by Ben Lindbergh to give out some reading recommendations ahead of ‘Ahsoka’ (2:43:00).

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Guest: Ben Lindbergh

Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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Yes! Yes! Yes! It's time for another deep dive with Mal and Jo for the latest episode of 'The Mandalorian'. Ben Lindbergh joins them to discuss the Shadow Council and what the remnants of the empire are doing in the Galaxy. Later, they theorize who the titular "spies" might be in this week's episode (02:07:48).

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Guest: Ben Lindbergh

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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It's time to pass along the Darksaber and to pass along this pod to you! Mal and Jo are back to give you their deep dive into the latest episode of 'The Mandalorian' (04:44). Later, Ben Lindbergh joins the pod to talk 'Star Wars' politics and the constant changing of regimes in the galaxy (01:48:30).

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Guest: Ben Lindbergh

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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Clear out, blue boy! And make way for Mal and Jo's deep dive into the latest episode of 'The Mandalorian' (05:51). They discuss the return of the pirate king and what Bo Katan's journey might mean, and are later joined by Ben to theorize about what this episode's final scene might mean (01:44:50). Then, they all give out their episode awards!

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Guest: Ben Lindbergh

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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It’s time for a fantastic adventure throughout time and space! Join Joanna and Mal as they dive into the international phenomenon ‘Doctor Who’ and talk about the history of this iconic character (02:13). Later they discuss the first season of the revival, starring Christopher Eccleston, which debuted in 2005 (38:25).

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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We must protect the children! And you must listen to the latest deep dive with Mal and Joe. They're back to dive deep into the latest episode of ‘The Mandalorian’ (09:02). Later, Ben Lindbergh joins to discuss the history of Order 66 and the appearance of a legendary Jedi (71:44). Then they give away their episode awards and speculate on what's to come.

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Guests: Ben Lindbergh

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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They love the red ones, and they also love Mando! Mal and Joanna return to do another deep dive into the latest episode of ‘The Mandalorian’ (08:11). Later they are joined by Ben Lindbergh to discuss the history and trajectory of cloning in the ‘Star Wars’ universe (02:02:60). Then they give out their episodic awards (02:31:12).

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Guests: Ben Lindbergh

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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They call it a mine, but we call it a deep dive! Mal and Jo are back with another deep dive into the latest episode of ‘The Mandalorian’ (18:44). Ben Lindbergh also joins the pod to talk about the lore of the planet Mandalore (44:00). And later they are joined by Bo Katan herself, Katee Sackhoff, to discuss her character's arc, along with how to pose on a throne (02:04:02).

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Guests: Ben Lindbergh and Katee Sackhoff

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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This is the way ... to the best deep dive in the galaxy! Mal and Jo are back to dive into their thoughts on the epic Season 3 premiere of ‘The Mandalorian’ (09:15). They then begin their deep dive with where the Mandalorian people are and what adventure awaits Din and Grogu (21:43). Later Ben Lindbergh joins to discuss the lore of a special hyperspace whale (01:58:00), all before giving out their episode rewards and theories.

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Guest: Ben Lindbergh

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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This is the way. This is also the pod to prep you for the upcoming season of 'The Mandalorian'; Mal and Jo give you their essential Mando moments from all of 'Star Wars' (10:15). Later, they also give some extra credit with their favorite animated Mando moments, giving you even more lore to look forward to (1:49:13).

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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The time has come to conquer with Mal and Jo as they dive headfirst into their analysis of 'Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania.' They talk about the major introduction to Kang the Conqueror and the performance from Jonathan Majors (31:24). Later, they talk about the insane world of the Quantum Realm and all of the characters that inhabit it, along with the Ant-Man family (84:34).

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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Mal and Joanna are joined by special guest Clay Keller of the ‘Screen Drafts Podcast’ to conduct a draft ranking of the greatest on-screen MCU villains (20:47).

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Guest: Clay Keller

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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Mal and Joanna answer a bunch of your mailbag questions and tackle your burning theories about what they love to see in the world of fandom.

Mal's Book Recommendations:

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• ‘The Great American Novel’ (Philip Roth)
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• ‘Watership Down’ (Richard Adams)
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• The works of Ursula K. Le Guin
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• ‘Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow’ (Gabrielle Zevin)
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• ‘Project Hail Mary’ (Andy Weir)
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• ‘The House in the Cerulean Sea’ (TJ Klune)
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• ‘The Once and Future Witches’ (Alix E. Harrow)
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• ‘This Is How You Lose the Time War’ (Amal El-Mohtar and Max Gladstone)
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• ‘Station Eleven’ (Emily St. John Mandel)
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• Adapt: ‘Fairyland’ novels (Catherynne M. Valente)
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• Reboot: ‘The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy’ series (Douglas Adams)
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Jo's Book Recommendations:

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• ‘The Unchangeable Spots of Leopards’ (Kristopher Jansma)
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• ‘All the Birds in the Sky’ (Charlie Jane Anders)
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• ‘Carry On’ (Rainbow Rowell)
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• ‘Circe’ (Madeline Miller)
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• ‘Night Watch’ (Terry Pratchett)
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• ‘Dealing with Dragons’ (Harcourt Brace)
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• ‘Fire’ (Kristen Cashore)
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• ‘Bitter Blue’ (Kristen Cashore)
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• ‘Any Way the Wind Blows’ (Simon Snow)
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Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Addition Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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Joanna and Mal take you on a guided tour of their "Tropes Course" and, in honor of ‘The Last of Us,’ examines the story trope of the Lone Wolf and the Cub (09:19). They talk about the dynamics of travelers and the ones they protect—often on paths of redemption, revenge, and adventure.

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Addition Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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Mal and Jo are set to draft their most hyped things of 2023! They are also joined by Sean Fennessey and Ben Lindbergh to add to the fun and discuss what they are most looking forward to in 2023 (15:51).

Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson

Guests: Ben Lindbergh and Sean Fenessey

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Addition Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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Mal is joined by Ben Lindbergh to break down the story lines, characters, and Easter eggs in the Season 2 premiere of ‘The Bad Batch’ (5:21). Then they talk about what they’re looking forward to seeing from the rest of the season (1:05:04). Later, they look ahead to other Star Wars–related content coming out this year (1:21:11).

Host: Mallory Rubin

Guest: Ben Lindbergh

Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Addition Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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Join Mal, Joanna, and a multitude of guests as they give you a list of recommendations to accompany all of the biggest releases of the year. If you enjoyed anything the Ringer-Verse covered this year, then you'll love these!

Hosts: Joanna Robinson and Mallory Rubin

Guests: Chris Ryan, Kim Renfro, Ben Lindbergh, Dave Gonzalez, Zach Kram

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Addition Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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As the year comes to a close, Mal and Jo look at their top 10 moments of 2022, and talk about their favorite shows, movies, and pieces of IP!

Hosts: Joanna Robinson and Mallory Rubin

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Addition Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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Jo and Mal are ready to head to Ferrix and break down the season finale of 'Andor!' They begin with Mon Mothma’s role in the episode (12:00) before discussing the use of water (57:00) and explaining why Maarva’s speech was so powerful (91:00). Finally they are joined by Ben Lindbergh to theorize about the post-credit scene and talk about loose ends for Season 2 (119:00).

If you would like to email Mal and Joanna about the show, you can reach them at hobbitsanddragons@gmail.com.

Hosts: Joanna Robinson and Mallory Rubin

Guest: Ben Lindbergh

Associate Producer: Mike Wargon

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Addition Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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We don't want to be alone! So Jo and Mal are here to talk about the eleventh episode of 'Andor' (10:50). They also discuss the bizarre braid ritual in this episode and what Mon Mothma is facing in the lead-up to the season finale (50:20). Later they are joined by Ben Lindbergh to talk about all of their favorite 'Star Wars' creatures (98:26).

If you would like to email Mal and Joanna about the show, you can reach them at hobbitsanddragons@gmail.com.

Hosts: Joanna Robinson and Mallory Rubin

Guest: Ben Lindbergh

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Addition Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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Mal and Joanna are finally back to talking about the MCU! Listen as they go to the depths of Talokan to discuss ‘Black Panther: Wakanda Forever.’ First, they activate the kimoyo beads by giving an opening snapshot of the film (5:02). Then, they go into the great mound for a deep dive into each character and story line (13:40). Later, they look ahead to the future of the MCU and talk about some heart-shaped Easter eggs you may have missed (2:32:23).

If you would like to email Mal and Joanna, you can reach them at hobbitsanddragons@gmail.com.

Hosts: Joanna Robinson and Mallory Rubin

Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Addition Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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We have made our pod a sunless place! But it is full of great discussion on the latest episode of 'Andor,' including some of the best 'Star Wars' content to ever exist! (09:55). Later, Ben Lindbergh joins to discuss some of the best speeches in 'Star Wars' history, and what makes a great speech (90:26). All before an illuminating chat with episode director Toby Haynes about this magnificent episode of television (02:07:31).

If you would like to email Mal and Joanna about the show, you can reach them at hobbitsanddragons@gmail.com.Hosts: Joanna Robinson and Mallory Rubin

Guest: Ben Lindbergh

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Addition Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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