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No Laying Up - Golf Podcast

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The No Laying Up Podcast is a fresh, funny and informative conversation on all things golf. Founded in 2014, No Laying Up and its flagship podcast seeks to entertain and inform a community of avid golfers around the world. What started as a group text among college friends has now grown into one of the most popular podcasts in the game of golf, and our archives include appearances from the biggest names in the sport. Outside of the podcast, No Laying Up also produces multiple video travel series, best-in-class writing about the PGA Tour and LPGA, a robust social media presence, and a thriving community of friends and fans (The Nest).
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Published 2021-03-10

408 - Players Preview w/ Kevin Na and Marc Leishman

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Soly sits down with Kevin Na and Marc Leishman to preview this week's Players Championship. First up, Kevin talks about his moment with Tiger Woods at the 2019 event, battling the yips while in contention at the 2012 Players, how he overcame that, how he sped up his pace of play, how he started converting top-10's into wins, walking in putts, and a lot more. Second up, Leish details a wild 2020 that saw some crazy highs and crazy lows. He chats about how he got his game back, what goes wrong when it goes wrong, and what it's like to tee it up in events when your best stuff isn't there. Thanks to both Kevin and Marc for the time. 

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Published 2021-03-08

407 - Bay Hill Recap

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Bryson! We chat about the content king, the lines on 6, what makes him successful on these setups, Bay Hill, Spieth, Westwood, and everything else from an eventful week. We also chat more about distance as it relates to this weekend, some coverage takes, and look ahead to Players week. 

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Published 2021-03-03

406 - John Wood

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Former caddie and current NBC/Golf Channel broadcaster John Wood joins us to answer basically any question you could ever throw at a caddie, including hirings/firings, caddie pay, travel arrangements, best and worst advice he's given, and funny things he's heard tour pros complain about. He chats about being on the bag for the 2010 Ryder Cup with Hunter Mahan, how the Kuchar/El Tucan situation played out, moving on from Kuchar's bag, and so much more. Absolutely loved this one, and appreciate Woody's time. 

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Published 2021-03-01

405 - WGC-Workday Recap

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Morikawa flexes on the field, The Concession shows out, Koepka makes a run, and everything else from an eventful week. We reflect on Tiger's accident, the future of WGC's, Rory, Scheffler, Hovland, Nelly Korda's win at the Gainbridge, some Ryder Cup chat, and a lot more. 

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Published 2021-02-24

404 - Chip Beck

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Chip Beck joins us to chat about his career, shooting 59, his close calls, the 1993 Masters, losing his game, getting it back at the Champions Tour level, and a whole lot in between. This man can tell some stories. Really enjoyed this one, and appreciate Chip's time. 

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Published 2021-02-22

403 - Genesis Recap

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Max Homa! The 2021 Genesis Invitational champ (briefly) calls into the show, and the boys react to his emotional win, Finau's incredible Sunday 64, a wild Saturday at Riviera, Mike Whan at the USGA, and a lot more from an action packed week. 

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Published 2021-02-17

402 - Justin Suh

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Justin Suh's professional golf career so far has been quite a journey. He details his experience chasing Monday qualifiers, traveling to places like Peru, Oman, Argentina, and many others, what encouraged him to donate half of his earnings from the Farmers Insurance Open, battling wrist injuries, his college success, and so much more. 

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Published 2021-02-15

401 - AT&T Pebble Beach Recap

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Daniel Berger wins at Pebble, Spieth comes close, Nate lashes out, and everything else from a fun week. We chat about Berger's closing ability, his suspicious alignment of putts, what to take away from Spieth's week, some rules issues, Patrick Reed's Ryder Cup future, and a lot more. 

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Published 2021-02-10

400 - Kamaiu Johnson

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Kamaiu Johnson joins the pod to update us on his recovery from a COVID-19 diagnosis that caused him to miss his PGA Tour debut at Torrey Pines. Fortunately, Kamaiu has received a sponsor's exemption to this week's tournament at Pebble Beach and we discuss his first exposure to the game of golf, the golf community's efforts to improve its racial diversity and much more. Best of luck to Kamaiu this week at Pebble!

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Published 2021-02-08

399 - Waste Management Recap

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We react to a wild week at the Waste Management, including Koepka's furious finish, Spieth's insane Saturday, his future (is he back?), TPC Scottsdale, Xander's Sunday struggles, and everything else from the desert. We also discuss DJ and Finau in Saudi Arabia, a tough Sunday of TV coverage, and this week's consequential report from the USGA & R&A. 

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Published 2021-02-03

398 - USGA/R&A Distance Report with Geoff Shackelford

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Geoff Shackelford joins to help breakdown the latest announcement from the USGA/R&A about potential rule changes and other areas of interest. Geoff has long been an advocate for distance limitations in golf, and has more knowledge on the topic that pretty much anyone in the game. We pick his brain with some common arguments we hear against rollback/bifurcation, take some listener questions, discuss what the new landscape might look like, and a lot more. 

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Published 2021-02-01

397 - Farmers Recap

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A content bonanza this week! Our longest recap pod ever attempts to unpack the incredible Patrick Reed drama, how CBS handled it, how the tour handled it, the Rory situation, CBS' season debut, and everything else from the Farmers Insurance. We also chat about DL3 as a Presidents Cup captain, the PGA Tour building, gambling in golf, unpacking the Jerry Foltz podcast, and a lot more. 

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Published 2021-01-27

396 - Tommy Fleetwood

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Tommy Fleetwood joins to chat about spending winter months in Dubai, the 2018 Ryder Cup, narrowly missing out on a US Open, reflecting on a weird 2020, and a lot more. Catch Tommy at the Omega Dubai Desert Classic this week. 

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Published 2021-01-20

394 - Mike Whan

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Mike Whan joins to discuss why he's leaving the LPGA Tour, highlights (and lowlights) of his tenure, TV ratings, mixed events with men and women, what's next for the LPGA Tour, his thoughts on the USGA rumors, and a lot more. Always appreciate Mike's insights on the podcast and greatly appreciate his time. 

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Published 2021-01-18

393 - Sony Open Recap

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We discuss Kevin Na's win at the Sony Open, Chris Kirk regains full tour status, Ralph Lauren ends its partnership with Justin Thomas, the second half of the Tiger documentary and more.  Plus, Neil debuts a new equipment segment. 

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Published 2021-01-14

392 - "Tiger" documentary filmmakers Matthew Heineman and Matthew Hamachek

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Matthew Heineman and Matthew Hamachek, the directors of HBO's two-part documentary "Tiger," join the podcast to discuss the film, the challenges they faced, the reaction within the golf world, their understanding of Tiger, Earl, what they viewed as the most important cogs in the story, and a lot more. 

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Published 2021-01-11

391 - Sentry TOC Recap

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We recap an eventful week in golf, including Harris English flushing away the field, JT's slur and reaction, Part I of the HBO Tiger documentary, the PGA Championship moving, WGC Mexico moving, Mike Whan on the move, and so much more. 

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Published 2021-01-06

390 - 2021 Preview

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As the PGA Tour heads to Kapalua we're back to answer listener questions, discuss the reaction to the Lisa Cornwell interview, Rahm's move to Callaway and a ton more. Plus, we play our annual "name that winner" game from last year's PGA Tour tournaments.

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Published 2021-01-04

389 - Lisa Cornwell

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Lisa Cornwell's seven year tenure at the Golf Channel recently came to an end. She has spoken out on social media about how she was treated there, and now joins the podcast to tell her story. 

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Published 2020-12-22

388 - Holiday Medley, Part II

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Part II of our holiday medley featuring (again) Peter Kostis, Keith Mitchell, Stephen Curry, Paul McGinley, Paul Azinger, Hal Sutton, Joel Dahmen, Wright Thompson, Brad Faxon, Cameron McCormick, Jim Furyk, Collin Morikawa, Rocco Mediate, and Jason Bohn. 

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Published 2020-12-21

387 - Holiday Medley, Part I

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Part I of our 2020 highlights is live, with stories from Peter Kostis, Paul McGinley, Justin Thomas, Joe Buck, Rob Collins, Webb Simpson, Patrick Cantlay, Joseph Bramlett, Sophia Popov, Jason Bohn, Mike Lorenzo-Vera iHarry Higgs, Gil Hanse, Matty Kelly, Chris Kirk, Stuart Appleby, Brad Faxon, and Lanny Wadkins. Thanks everyone for the support this past year and in many others. Part II to follow shortly. 

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Published 2020-12-16

386 - Keith Mitchell

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There's a reason this a longer one! Keith Mitchell takes us through his journey to the PGA Tour, Sea Island life, flying private vs. flying commercial, an interesting insight on the distance debate, Trackman, PGA Tour Latino America, how an alarm mishap almost changed his career and so much more. 

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Published 2020-12-15

385 - U.S. Women's Open Recap

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A Lim Kim wins in a dramatic Monday finish at Champions Golf Club. Big Randy and Tron return from Houston to tell the tale of their visit to Houston, recap the week and what they saw on the ground, Amy Olson, women's golf on TV, some of the young guns on tour, and a lot more. 

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Published 2020-12-10

384 - US Women's Open Preview (Beth Ann Nichols + Bianca Pagdanganan)

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Big Randy hosts our preview episode of the 2020 US Women's Open in Houston. In this two-part pod Beth Ann Nichols joins first for an in-depth look at the tournament setup, coverage of women's golf, her favorite groups this week and a ton more.  In part two (51:00), LPGA rookie Bianca Pagdanganan stops by to discuss her first year on tour, playing in her first major tournaments, growing up in the Philippines and her collegiate golf experience at Arizona.  

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Published 2020-12-07

383 - Mayakoba Recap + 2020 Superlatives

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Viktor Hovland breaks the Puerto Rico curse! We recap a surprisingly fun week in Mexico, chat about Hovland's year, Adam Long, Finau, and the LPGA as well. We wrap it with some superlatives from 2020 (36:00), including the forgotten man, event you probably forgot happened, heartstrings moment of the year, and many others. And of course, we chat at the end about an exciting week in Formula 1. 

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Published 2020-12-03

382 - Scottie Scheffler

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After an eventful rookie season, Scottie Scheffler joins us to talk about playing with Tiger at Augusta, shooting 59, his big payout from the Tour Championship, what he's learned from other players, why he spent 4 years at Texas, and a ton more. 

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Published 2020-11-30

381 - Match 3.0 Recap & David McLay Kidd

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DJ and Soly chat about Match 3.0, Phil, Steph's handicap, and what to expect with the future of that franchise. Also, an extensive interview with David McLay Kidd (33:30) talking in detail about Bandon, Tetherow, his evolution as an architect, Mammoth Dunes, and a lot more. 

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Published 2020-11-25

380 - Joaquín Niemann

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Joaquín Niemann arrived quickly on the PGA Tour scene. We chat about growing up in Chile, what golf is like at home, learning from his early trips to the United States, playing against Tiger in the Presidents Cup, how Ernie Els helped his team strategize, his cousin's life that he's trying to save, and a lot more. 

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Published 2020-11-23

379 - Lukas Michel

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The 2019 US Mid-Am Champ joins us to chat about playing in the freaking Masters, stories from the week, joining some tour regulars for a practice round, the Crow's nest, and everything else from the 2020 event. We also discuss how he got there, the U.S. Open at Winged Foot, the U.S. Am at Bandon, his future plans, and a lot more. 

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Published 2020-11-18

378 - Stephen Curry

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Three time NBA Champion Stephen Curry joins to discuss playing in the Ellie Mae Classic, what it was like to tee it up with professionals, the success he had his first three rounds, the struggle in the last one, and his background in golf. He also discusses reviving the golf program at Howard, some hoops, similarities and differences between basketball and golf, Steve Kerr, and a lot more. 

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Published 2020-11-15

377 - Masters Sunday Recap

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DJ blitzes the Masters scoring record, Rory teases, JT and Rahm fade, and everything else from Masters Sunday. We discuss DJ's career, how many majors he ends up with, his best comps, why we haven't seen more of this from him, some stories from hanging out with him in Myrtle Beach, and a lot more. We go down the leaderboard, discuss Augusta's recent progressive moves, some coverage takes, and a ton more. This one was especially fun. 

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Published 2020-11-14

376 - Masters Saturday Recap

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DJ lifts and separates, JT rises then falls, Rory makes some more birdies, and everything else from a relatively sleepy Saturday at Augusta. We discuss whether records will fall tomorrow, who has the best chance to catch DJ, his past struggles closing out majors, and a lot more. 

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Published 2020-11-13

375 - Masters Friday Recap

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Rahm on the move, DJ and JT among the leaders, Rory stinks and then he doesn't and everything else from Friday at Augusta. A ton of people within shouting distance and a lot to talk about, including Cantlay, Cam Smith, Honest Abe, Spieth, Cat, Phil, and a lot more. 

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Published 2020-11-12

374 - Masters Thursday Recap

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A soppy Augusta National yields some low scores, and we chat about the guys that made moves, those that disappointed, Bryson, Tiger, Rory, Spieth, Casey, Schauffele, and everything else from a fun day one in Augusta. We chat about the incredible online viewing experience, new camera angles, a patron-less Augusta, and a lot more. 

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Published 2020-11-10

373 - Masters Preview

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Masters week is finally here, and there's a lot to discuss. Soly, Tron, DJ, and Randy sit down to chat about what we know as of Tuesday of Masters week, how that has affected the handicapping, conditions, grass, Bryson, his eye-popping practice rounds, Rory, Tiger, and a bunch of listener questions. We talk about replacing 17 in the routing, the funnel pin on 16, how the 13th will play, the eery atmosphere, and so much more. 

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Published 2020-11-09

372 - Wright Thompson on The Masters

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Long time Augusta attendee Wright Thompson joins to share some of his favorite Augusta stories, some perspective on what the Masters means to him, how the voiceovers for ESPN's coverage come together, his incredible Tiger Woods story from 2016, and how his father never making it to Augusta still sits with him. 

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Published 2020-11-04

371 - Every hole at Augusta National with Matty Kelly (Marc Leishman's caddie)

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Matty Kelly has caddied in many Masters, and he sits down with us in advance of next week's event to go through his yardage books, talk about each hole, how they play it, how Bryson might play it, and a ton of other great Augusta nuggets along the way. This one was a blast, and it will give you a ton of things to get excited about in advance of next week. 

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Published 2020-11-02

370 - Matt Fitzpatrick

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Matt Fitzpatrick made some headlines with some of his comments a few weeks ago. He joins the pod to add some context behind those comments, the relationship between distance and the game of golf, Bryson, and course setups. We also go deep on Augusta as we turn our attention towards the Masters, getting into some of his specific notes from his yardage book, what it takes to compete there, and a lot more. 

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Published 2020-10-30

369 - Jim Urbina

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Jim Urbina joins DJ to talk about his career in golf course architecture including his early work under Pete Dye, working under Tom Doak at Pacific Dunes, the creation of Old Macdonald, the restoration at Pasatiempo, and much more. 

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Published 2020-10-26

368 - Zozo Recap

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Soly is now married. The rest of the crew gathers to recap Patrick Cantlay's win at the Zozo, Bryson's latest video and the rest of the weekend at Sherwood. We also get into the LPGA and Euro Tour events before a deep dive into Soly's wedding, Neil breaking par for the first time, and your questions. 

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Published 2020-10-21

367 - Bobby Weed

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Long time golf course architect Bobby Weed joins to discuss learning from Pete Dye, drainage, building golf courses for modern players, the TPC network, working for the PGA Tour, renovations, and a lot more. 

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Published 2020-10-19

366 - CJ Cup Recap

71 min
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Kokrak moves all-in and wins his first PGA Tour event, and we definitely don't beat that into the ground. We discuss Shadow Creek as a PGA Tour venue, Tyrell Hatton, Xander, Bryson at Augusta, some listener questions, and a lot more. 

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Published 2020-10-14

365 - Rocco Mediate

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Rocco! The story telling legend joins the show to talk about the '06 Masters, '08 US Open, dealing with back pain, knowing he didn't have what it took to compete on the PGA Tour, figuring out what it takes, and so much more. 

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Published 2020-10-12

364 - Will Gray recaps the Shriners/KPMG Women's PGA

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Martin Laird wins the Shriners, so we spend most of the show talking about Bryson's comments this week, as he tees it up for the the last time until the Masters. 48 inch drivers, the line on 13, technology/distance, etc., all covered extensively. We also discuss Matt Wolff's rise, Will Zalatoris' nearly tracking down special temporary membership, Sei Young Kim's dominant performance at the KPMG Women's PGA, Koepka's return, and a lot more. 

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Published 2020-10-06

363 - Oregon Trip Recap, Part II

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Part 2 of the Tourist Sauce, Season Six: Oregon podcast episode. We recap our experiences at Bandon Trails, Bandon Dunes (10:45), Bandon Crossings (27:45), Tetherow (39:00), and Silvies Valley Ranch (53:30). Catch the premiere tonight (Oct 6) on the NLU YouTube channel!

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Published 2020-10-05

362 - Oregon Trip Recap, Part I

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Tourist Sauce, Season Six: Oregon premieres this Tuesday on our YouTube Channel. On this episode, we discuss the logistics of our trip, as well as our experiences at Portland Golf Club (19:30), Eastmoreland (24:00), Wildwood (28:30), Gearhart (35:00), Old Macdonald (56:30), Pacific Dunes (1:06:00), and Sheep Ranch (1:22:00). Part II will be published on Tuesday in advance of the premiere. 

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Published 2020-09-29

361 - Hudson Swafford & Mackenzie Hughes

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Hudson Swafford joins us shortly after his win in the Dominican Republic to talk through the pressure of the back nine, how he channeled the nerves, persevered through a double bogey, and his health battles the last few years. On the back half, Mackenzie Hughes joins to talk about his wild ride towards the end of the season, needing to par the last at the BMW to make it to East Lake, getting back in the majors, Winged Foot, Corales, and a lot more. 

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Published 2020-09-28

360 - Max Homa recaps Puntacana, plus we build an 18 hole composite PGA Tour course

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A slow week in golf means a two hour episode. Max Homa joins us to talk about the Corales Puntacana, his fall, the U.S. Open conditions, the Payne's Valley Cup, and a lot more. On the back half, Soly, D.J., and Max create a "composite" PGA Tour course, going through the best first hole, best second hole, best third, all the way through the 18th. Some holes you would expect to see on there, and some that you might not. This was maybe too much fun. 

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Published 2020-09-23

359 - Paul McGinley

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Paul McGinley joins to talk about golf in England and Ireland, his first Ryder Cup, what Sam Torrance told him about his role on the team, the bits and pieces he learned from his captains, and how it molded him into the captain of the 2014. He gives great detail on how he managed egos, individual relationships, expectations, statistics, and everything else that goes into the complicated role of captain. Special thanks to BMW for their support of our Ryder Cup content, and we look forward to providing much more over the course of the next year. 

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