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No Laying Up - Golf Podcast

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The No Laying Up Podcast is a fresh, funny and informative conversation on all things golf. Founded in 2014, No Laying Up and its flagship podcast seeks to entertain and inform a community of avid golfers around the world. What started as a group text among college friends has now grown into one of the most popular podcasts in the game of golf, and our archives include appearances from the biggest names in the sport. Outside of the podcast, No Laying Up also produces multiple video travel series, best-in-class writing about the PGA Tour and LPGA, a robust social media presence, and a thriving community of friends and fans (The Nest).
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Published 2019-11-06

258 - Colin Montgomerie

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Monty joins the podcast to talk about life on the Champions Tour, his relationship with the US and how that has evolved over the years, dealing with hecklers, regrets he has in how he had done things in the past, and a lot more. 

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Published 2019-11-03

257 - Kevin Van Valkenburg

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(Best) friend of the pod Kevin Van Valkenburg from ESPN joins to chat about some offseason stuff, including five things we want to see happen in 2020, three things we each wish we never said, Tiger's win at the Zozo, and some excellent listener questions. Thanks as always to KVV for the time, this was a fun one. 

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Published 2019-10-28

256 - TIGER WOODS HAS WON THE ZOZO

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The Cat has eternal life. Tiger Woods wins the inaugural Zozo Championship over Hideki Matsuyama, and Soly and DJ discuss his path to 82 wins, their favorite wins in that time period, the Kush, Bubba's crazy drive, the Skins Game, and a bunch more from the Zozo. We also discuss the news coming out of CBS and what that means for the future of golf on TV. 

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Published 2019-10-20

255 - Brad Faxon

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Brad Faxon joins to talk about working with Rory McIlroy on his putting, his playing career, what makes a great putter, and a hell of a lot more discussion on putting. We also discuss his love of golf course architecture, the Ryder Cup, broadcasting, and so much more. We barely scratched the surface with this one, and we look forward to having him back in the future. 

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Published 2019-10-14

254 - Bill Coore

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Bill Coore joins us to discuss how he got into the golf course design business, what intrigued him about Pete Dye, centerline bunkers, width, Sand Hills, Bandon Trails, Pinehurst No. 2, Old Town Club, and many other courses. We also went into detail on the reaction to Trinity Forest, how it has played differently than it was designed to play, designing courses for professionals, and a lot more. Bill was extremely gracious with his time, and we hope to have him back again soon. 

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Published 2019-10-11

253 - Heathland Golf in England

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In Part II of his England debrief, Soly breaks down the Heathland courses he played on his trip to England (Holinwell, Walton Heath, Sunningdale, Berkshire, and St. George's Hill). He talks about his newfound appreciation for heathland golf, what makes each of these courses special, some of the best holes, the English golf vibe, and a lot more. Thanks to everyone who sent in questions and feedback on the trip. 

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Published 2019-10-09

252 - England's Golf Coast (Lytham, Birkdale, West Lancashire, Formby, Formby Ladies, Hillside, Southport & Ainsdale)

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Part I of my England debrief goes deep into the links courses played on this trip (Royal Lytham, Royal Birkdale, West Lancashire, Formby, Formby Ladies, Hillside, & Southport & Ainsdale). We talk cost, the highs and lows of these courses, what makes each one special, and England golf in general. This was a dream trip to a very special part of the golf world, and can't wait to make it back to the region. Stay tuned for Part II which will include the Heathland courses played on the trip. 

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Published 2019-10-06

251 - Ryder Cup - One Year Out

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We might be a year out from the 2020 Ryder Cup, but Soly and DJ are in a Ryder Cup mood after road tripping around the midwest and visiting the last three Ryder Cup venues, as well as Whistling Straits, the site of the 2020 event. We chat about our first impressions of Steve Stricker and Padraig Harrington, and you'll hear the best clips from the press conference within this episode. A lot more content to come from this road trip, but we had a blast hashing out some thoughts on golf's greatest event. 

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Published 2019-09-30

250 - Safeway Recap + Akshay Bhatia Interview

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Cameron Champ wins his second PGA Tour title at the Safeway. Soly and DJ Pie discuss his game, how it translates to the PGA Tour, the crazy story of his grandfather, the marketing behind him, and a lot more. We also discuss Bryson's comments, the driver testing findings, Rory's comments at the Dunhill, and the Kris Ventura incident. Lastly, Soly sits down with 17-year-old Akshay Bhatia (45:38 mark) to discuss his transition into professional golf, what his first few PGA Tour events have been like, George Gankas, getting a driver's license, and a lot more. 

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Published 2019-09-23

249 - Jim Wagner from Hanse Golf Design LIVE from Pinehurst

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Jim Wagner has been the lead associate with the Hanse Golf Design company for decades, and he joined us live from the Pinehurst Brewery to discuss his career, trends in golf course design, renovation vs. restoration, their work at Pinehurst, and a lot more. Jim is a great story teller and entertainer, and there are many, many laughs in this one. Thanks a ton to Jim for making the trip down, and to Pinehurst for helping us host a terrific event. 

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Published 2019-09-18

248 - Justin Thomas

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JT is back to discuss his 2019 year, the new Tour Championship format, what $15 million means to him, how many PGA Tour wins he would trade for a major, his spat with the USGA, the drama around the Ryder Cup pairings, the upcoming Presidents Cup, and a ton more. This one was a lot of fun, and JT doesn't shy away from any of the topics. 

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Published 2019-09-16

247 - Solheim Cup & Greenbrier Recap

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Team Europe wins the Solheim Cup in Scotland, and we discuss Suzann Pettersen insanely clutch putt (and immediate retirement), the Korda sisters, Lexi Thompson, Georgia Hall, and everything else from the week. We also discuss Danielle Kang's comments, the overreaction, team events, Joaquin Niemann's win at the Greenbrier, Kevin Chappell's insane route to a T47, and some listener questions. 

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Published 2019-09-10

246 - Mel Reid

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Recorded earlier this year at the KPMG Women's PGA, here is our interview with Mel Reid. She tells about her experience coming out as gay, the tragic death of her mom, golf in England, the Solheim Cup, snowboarding, and a lot more. Mel is a great hang and an easy player to root for. Thanks for the time!

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Published 2019-09-04

245 - Ireland Trip, Part II

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Part II of our Ireland Trip includes Tralee, Carne, County Sligo (Rosses Point), and Enniscrone. We make our way north and play Arnold Palmer's gem, then head much further north to get off the beaten track and tack advantage of some tremendous treks across Sligo. The dunes in this leg of the trip were some of the biggest we've ever seen, and the day we got at Carne was truly memorable. Thanks to everyone for tuning in, stay tuned for Season 4 of Tourist Sauce, coming soon!

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Published 2019-09-02

244 - Ireland Trip, Part I

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After much delay, Part I of our Ireland Recap is finally here. Doonbeg, Lahinch, Adare Manor, Ballybunion, Waterville, and Dooks make up this episode, and we break down what we loved and didn't love about each place. Tourist Sauce Season 4 will be out later this month, and look for part II of this podcast on Tuesday night. 

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Published 2019-08-28

243 - Tom Doak and Eric Iverson LIVE from the NLU Summit

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In our first ever LIVE podcast from the NLU Summit, Tom Doak and Eric Iverson join us to discuss CommonGround golf course, and their work from around the world. We discuss what makes a great golf hole, how to make golf architecture more accessible, public golf courses, working with Brooks Koepka at Memorial Park in Houston, and so much more. We could have spent a lot more time with these guys, and hopefully will have them back soon. 

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Published 2019-08-26

242 - Tour Championship Recap

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Rory McIlroy wins the $15 million prize, and we discuss money in golf, the new format, whether or not it worked, and everything else from the Tour Championship. Also, are golfers underpaid? We talk about how money gets distributed in golf, and struggling as to whether or not we should care. We also talk Korn Ferry Finals, and debrief our first event, The Summit at CommonGround in Colorado. 

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Published 2019-08-21

241 - Scott Harrington

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Scott Harrington is headed to the PGA Tour for the first time after 16 years in professional golf. We go through the ups and downs of mini tours, the Nationwide/Web.com/Korn Ferry Tour, all the way to the final putt in Portland that sent him to the big leagues. He also goes into great detail on his wife's brutal struggle with Hodgkin's Lymphoma, and how players from the Web.com Tour gathered together to support the Harrington family. If you're looking for new guys to root for on the PGA Tour, 38-year old rookie Scott Harrington is your guy. 

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Published 2019-08-19

240 - BMW Championship, US AM, + Brooke Henderson Interview

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Justin Thomas rolls to victory in Chicago, and we discuss what that means going into the Tour Championship, the new format, and just how nuts the cash situation is this week. We also discuss the U.S. Am at Pinehurst, the Korn Ferry Finals, Adam Scott and Tiger Woods' comments this week about equipment and course setup, and a lot more. Brooke Henderson joins the show on the back half (46:10) to discuss the defense of her CP Women's Open title this week in Canada, how she was able to find so much success at such a young age, and what it's like to carry the torch for Canadian women's golf. Thanks a ton to Brooke for the time. 

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Published 2019-08-14

239 - Cabot Links

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We took a trip up to Cabot Links this summer for our annual board meeting and a few rounds of golf. We talk about the backstory behind one of the world's great golf destination, what we thought of Cabot Links, Cabot Cliffs, the accommodation, how we'd split ten rounds between the two courses. 

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Published 2019-08-06

237 - Zac Blair

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Friend of the program Zac Blair is back to discuss his win this week on the Korn Ferry Tour and everything that's gone into regaining his PGA Tour card. The past two years have been a struggle for Zac after finishing No. 126 on the FedExCup points list in 2017 and bouncing between the PGA Tour and the Korn Ferry Tour. He talks about some of the low points and how a change in mentality helped him regain perspective and secure his spot on the PGA Tour for the 2019-2020 season. 

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Published 2019-08-05

236 - TV Producer Jeff Neubarth

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Jeff Neubarth joins us to talk about producing golf for FOX, some details on the production of "The Match," drones in golf, contracts, and basically everything you need to know about why golf is the way it is on television. Jeff also touches on why things are likely to change in the near future, hints at future iterations of "The Match," and so much more. I learned a lot in this process, and I'm sure you will as well. 

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Published 2019-07-31

235 - Poker Pro Daniel Negreanu

45 min
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You guys wanted gambling stories. This guy's got 'em. Poker legend Daniel Negreanu joins us to talk about his poker career, life in Vegas, and most importantly, golf gambling stories. A lot of pro golfers are hesitant to spill the details on betting on the course, but Daniel is not. He talks about losing millions to Phil Ivey, betting over $500K that he could break 80, golf lessons, and the Vegas golf scene in great detail. This was a fun change of pace, and thanks to Daniel for the time. 

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Published 2019-07-29

234 - WGC FedEx St. Jude Classic/Barracuda Recap

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Brooks Koepka wins the WGC in Memphis. We discuss our feelings around this event, Rory, Memphis, and WGC's in general. We also discuss Morikawa's win at the Barracuda, and our week on site and one of golf's most unique events. We mix in some listener voicemails, and discuss the upcoming Playoffs as well. Thanks for tuning in. 

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Published 2019-07-24

233 - Tim Herron and Jason Bohn

65 min
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Tim Herron and Jason Bohn join to talk about PGA Tour life into their late 40's, their excitement for the Champions Tour, and their Tuesday games. Jason tells some incredible stories regarding his million dollar ace, telling the crowd at TPC Scottsdale to SUCK IT, and a ton more. Tim talks about his Lumpy nickname, playing with Tiger, how tour life has changed, and so much more. This is legitimately one of our favorite interviews of all time. Thanks so much to both guys for the time. 

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Published 2019-07-21

232 - UK British Open Recap

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Shane Lowry wins the UK British Open by 6 shots at Royal Portrush. We discuss his victory lap, poise down the stretch, winning in Northern Ireland, Portrush, Rory's run at the cut, G-Mac, and a ton more. We also discuss the Xander Schauffele incident, the Kyle Stanley kerfuffle, we recap major season, and everything else from one of the most fun weeks in golf. 

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Published 2019-07-14

231 - UK British Open Preview, Part II

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Eamon Lynch joins the podcast to talk about his upbringing in Northern Ireland, perspective on The Troubles, Northern Ireland today, what this championship means to the area, Royal Portrush, the new holes, and a ton more in advance of the 2019 U.K. British Open Championship, Presented by Her Majesty The Queen. 

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Published 2019-07-10

230 - UK British Open Preview with Scott Van Pelt

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Scott Van Pelt is back to talk about the 2019 U.K. British Open Championship (presented by Her Majesty), and he shares his favorite memories from covering the event for many years with ESPN, Royal Portrush, viewing traditions, Tom Watson, Ben Curtis, Muirfield in 2002, Muirfield in 2013, Tiger at St. Andrews, Koepka at St. Andrews, and a ton more. 

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Published 2019-07-03

228 - Casey Martin

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University of Oregon Head Golf Coach Casey Martin joins to discuss his playing career, his lawsuit with the PGA Tour, transitioning into coaching, winning a national championship, Aaron Wise, Norman Xiong, recruiting, and all that goes into being a college golf coach. 

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Published 2019-07-01

227 - Rocket Mortgage Recap

68 min
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We discuss a busy week in golf, including the Rocket Mortgage Classic, Nate Lashley, Doc Redman, Cam Champ, the European Tour, The Korn Ferry Tour, Steve Stricker's win at the U.S. Senior Open, S.H. Park's win on the LPGA Tour, the upcoming No Laying Up event, and a few voicemails. 

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Published 2019-06-25

226 - Joel Dahmen

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Joel Dahmen joins to discuss purposeful shanks on the range, boozing on the Canadian Tour, and a bunch of other stories from his PGA Tour career. Dahmen also discusses the Sung Kang incident, testicular cancer, finishing runner up at the Wells Fargo, and a ton more. Thanks a ton to Joel for the time. 

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Published 2019-06-24

225 - KPMG Women's PGA Championship Recap + Lizette Salas

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We had a blast of a week at the KPMG Women's PGA Championship. Soly and Randy recap Hannah Green's win, what it's like to attend an LPGA major, what listeners can learn from LPGA Players, Big Randy's first Pro-Am, Nelly Korda, Danielle Kang, Ariya Jutanugarn, and a ton more. On the back end, Lizette Salas joins to talk about her modest upbringing, and how she's carved a career out on the LPGA Tour. This was recorded before her tremendous T5 finish on Sunday. Thanks everyone for tuning in this week to our LPGA content, it was a blast to produce. 

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Published 2019-06-19

224 - Angel Yin and her caddie, Kris Maerke

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20 year old American standout Angel Yin joins the podcast to talk about LPGA life, the KPMG Women's PGA, being the longest hitter on the LPGA Tour, and a lot more. Her caddie Kris Maerke also joins to tell stories, and to reflect on what it's like to work for a long hitter like Angel. 

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Published 2019-06-17

223 - US Open Recap

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Gary Woodland has won the 2019 U.S. Open. We discuss him flashing his stones with his 3-wood on the 14th hole, Koepka's incredible run, Pebble Beach, the setup by the USGA, Rory, Spieth, Fox, and everything else from US Open weekend. 

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Published 2019-06-10

222 - U.S. Open Preview, Part II

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We discuss Rory's romp at the Canadian Open, the BMW Charity Pro-Am, Pebble Beach, our picks for the U.S. Open, Koepka, Tiger, G-Mac, where Pebble ranks for us, and a ton more. Thanks to everyone that left voicemails, this was a fun one. 

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Published 2019-06-10

221 - U.S. Open Preview with Shane Bacon

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Shane Bacon from Fox Sports joins to discuss the 2019 U.S. Open, what will be different about Pebble, Koepka, Tiger, what tricks Fox has up its sleeve, making it through local qualifying, and his favorite holes at Pebble Beach. Thanks a ton to Shane for the time, stay tuned for another preview episode on Monday. 

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Published 2019-06-05

220 - California Road Trip (Tourist Sauce Season 3)

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For season 3 of our travel series "Tourist Sauce," we ripped up the west coast in an RV and played some golf along the way. We breakdown our trip from Rustic Canyon, Ojai Valley, Sandpiper, Monterey Peninsula, Pacific Grove, Pasatiempo, Stanford, and Harding Park. We also met up with George Gankas, camped under the stars, and had a blast in some unseasonably cold weather. Stay tuned for the video version of this trip, starting June 18 on YouTube. 

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Published 2019-06-03

219 - U.S. Women's Open & Memorial Recap

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Jeongeun Lee6 has won the 2019 U.S. Women's Open, and we discuss how awesome Country Club of Charleston showed out on TV, Fox's commercial free coverage, Hank Haney's comments on Korean players, the USGA, the Memorial Tournament, Kuchar, Tiger, Bryson, and a ton more. 

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Published 2019-05-27

218 - Scott Stallings

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Scott Stallings joins us from Colonial where we discuss the radical transformation of his body, 10 Dr. Peppers a day, adrenal fatigue, his suspension from the PGA Tour, and a shocking statement that he received from Tim Finchem. We also discuss his involvement with youth golf in Tennessee, the lengthy PGA Tour schedule, and a lot more. 

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Published 2019-05-22

217 - The life and career of Ben Hogan

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From his humble Texas upbringing to a ticker tape parade in New York City, in this special edition episode, we dive deep into the life and career of Ben Hogan. We're joined by Robert Stennett and Chip Graham of the Ben Hogan Foundation for stories on the man they call "Mr. Hogan." We also hear from former PGA Tour player Lindy Miller, who used to shag balls for Mr. Hogan, and has some legendary stories to tell about it. Thanks to everyone involved for helping us tell this story. 

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Published 2019-05-20

216 - PGA Championship Recap

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Brooks Koepka wins his fourth major and his second PGA Championship, and we discuss what this means, how many majors we're giving Brooks, you can possibly compare him to, and everything else from the last week. We also talk about the identity of the PGA Championship, our favorite holes to watch this week, Blimptracer, and a lot more. 

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Published 2019-05-15

215 - Scott Van Pelt

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ESPN's Scott Van Pelt joins to discuss how he got into golf, how Tiger Woods launched his career, his favorite Tiger stories, how Sportscenter has evolved and how it comes together these days. We also discuss the upcoming PGA Championship at Bethpage, Max Homa, dealing with haters, and how to chase your dream. Thanks a ton to Scott for the time. 

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Published 2019-05-13

214 - PGA Championship Preview

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We discuss last week's AT&T Byron Nelson and how Trinity Forest represented on television, as well as take listener voicemails about the upcoming 2019 PGA Championship. We talk Spieth, Koepka, Tiger, Bethpage, the PGA in May, what to expect from coverage, and a lot more. 

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Published 2019-05-10

213 - Mike Keiser

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Mike Keiser has helped usher in a new era of golf in the United States, and in other remote places around the world. He joins the podcast to talk about the incredible story of Bandon Dunes, finding his architects, what courses inspired him, what he thinks are important to a golf experience, and a lot more. We're also thrilled to announce our partnership with Charles Schwab, and highly recommend checking out their feature on Mike Keiser and other "Challengers." Seriously, check these videos out: http://content.schwab.com/web/retail/public/corporatesponsorships/index.html

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Published 2019-05-07

212 - Max Homa

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NLU pod favorite Max Homa joins to recap his win the previous day at the Wells Fargo Championship. He breaks down how nervous he was, what he did during the rain delay, and reflects on the winding road that lead him to this victory. Thanks a ton to Max for taking time out of the celebration to share some thoughts, and a sincere congrats from all of NLU nation. 

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Published 2019-04-28

211 - Adam Long

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The winner of the 2019 Desert Classic, Adam Long joins the podcast to talk about his rise through the lower levels of professional golf, to lifting a trophy on golf's biggest stage. This episode was recorded during the 2019 Players, and we break down Adam's thought process on the 72nd hole, the incredible shot he hit to pull off the win, and the putt to clinch it. Thanks a ton to Adam for the time! 

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Published 2019-04-22

210 - Golf Photographer David Cannon

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Getty Sports photographer David Cannon joins us to talk about his legendary career in golf covering the game from Jack, to Seve, to Tiger, and into the latest era in golf. We talk about some of his iconic images, how much photography has changed over the year, what golf experiences he holds near and dear, and some photography tips for amateurs as well. Thanks a ton to David for the time!

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Published 2019-04-16

209 - Kevin Van Valkenburg on Tiger Woods and the 2019 Masters

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One episode on the 2019 Masters was not enough. Kevin Van Valkenburg from ESPN joins to share his perspectives on one of the most historic weekends of golf in the history of the game. We talk about what it meant for him as a parent to see Tiger win in front of his kids, all he's been through to this point, and a ton more from his incredible comeback story. And of course, Gary Player makes an appearance. Thanks a ton to Kevin for the time as always. 

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