We Can Do Hard Things

322. The One Who Taught Glennon Friendship: Alex Hedison  

Today is a big day. Artist, actor, photographer, filmmaker, and dear bestie of Glennon and Abby, Alex Hedison is here! Alex is the person who Glennon credits with teaching her how to be a friend. HUGE! In this episode, they share how their friendship started, how they make it work, and Alex offers amazing life advice. It’s like being a fly on the wall in one of their hangouts. You will LOVE this chat between Alex, Glennon, Abby and Amanda!

Discover: 

-The story of how Glennon and Abby became friends with Alex and her wife, Jodie Foster;

-The literal fire that solidified their friendship; 

-How to never have an ick moment again after a social gathering; and

-Why we MUST stress our relationships and what that means in action.

About Alex:

Alex Hedison is an internationally acclaimed photographer, artist, director, and actor. Hedison has exhibited in galleries in the US and abroad. Her most recent solo exhibitions include the opening of FRIEZE Seoul 2023; Von Lintel Gallery, Los Angeles; H Gallery Paris; Photo London; and Paris Photo. Her acting career spans numerous television roles, including a pivotal character in the cultural phenomenon, The L Word. A critical voice in both the artistic and LGBTQ+ community, Hedison directed the short documentary film ALOK, a thought-provoking short film that explores compassion as a catalyst for social transformation and inspires viewers to embrace personal freedom beyond the binaries that divide us. Produced by Natalie Shirinian, Elizabeth Baudouin (pronounced Bode-win), Meggan Lennon, and executive produced by Jodie Foster, ALOK was selected to premiere at the 2024 Sundance Film Festival.

IG: @alexhedisonstudio

321. Expert Advice on Genetic Testing, Cancer Prevention & Care Disparities with Dr. Rachel Brem

Dr. Rachel Brem is back to discuss genetic testing for breast cancer risk, systemic issues within the medical establishment, guidance for those with dense breasts, and practical advice on MRI and mammograms. Plus, we’ll hear some of the heartfelt and inspiring messages you’ve left us since you learned of Amanda’s diagnosis. 

Discover: 

-The shocking statistic about who is most susceptible to breast cancer;

-Why every doctor has a bias and what to do about it;

-The truth about “overdiagnosis”; and 

-How to get genetic testing and what to do with the information you receive.

On Dr. Rachel Brem: Dr. Rachel Brem is the author of No Longer Radical: Understanding Mastectomies and Choosing the Breast Cancer Care That's Right For You.

Dr. Brem is an internationally known breast cancer expert who has been instrumental in developing and implementing new technologies to improve breast cancer detection. She is Professor and Director of Breast Imaging and Intervention at George Washington University, Vice Chairman of the Department of Radiology, and Chief Medical Advisor and Cofounder of the Brem Foundation. She is a Fellow of the American College of Radiology and the Society of Breast Imaging.

Find our first episode with Dr. Brem here: 320. Early Detection, Mammograms & Breast Cancer Care with Dr. Rachel Brem

320. Early Detection, Mammograms & Breast Cancer Care with Dr. Rachel Brem

Amanda shares an update on her recovery from breast cancer. Then, renowned breast cancer expert, Dr. Rachel Brem, joins the conversation to discuss the critical importance of early detection, breast density's impact on mammography, and when we need additional screenings. 

Discover: 

-The differing guidance on screenings and the truth about how often you should actually get screened for cancer;

-Advice on what to say to your doctors to make sure that you get the screening you need and so that they can be covered under insurance; and

-How to learn how dense your breasts are and what to do with that information. 

On Dr. Rachel Brem: Dr. Rachel Brem is the author of No Longer Radical: Understanding Mastectomies and Choosing the Breast Cancer Care That's Right For You.

Dr. Brem is an internationally known breast cancer expert who has been instrumental in developing and implementing new technologies to improve breast cancer detection. She is Professor and Director of Breast Imaging and Intervention at George Washington University, Vice Chairman of the Department of Radiology, and Chief Medical Advisor and Cofounder of the Brem Foundation. She is a Fellow of the American College of Radiology and the Society of Breast Imaging.

Find more resources at The Brem Foundation Website: https://www.bremfoundation.org/ 

Check out Dr. Brem’s Book, No Longer Radical: https://www.nolongerradical.com/

319. Breaking Generational Cycles: Embodiment & Healing Trauma with Prentis Hemphill

Glennon and Abby welcome Prentis Hemphill, a writer, embodiment facilitator, political organizer, and therapist. They discuss individual and collective healing through embodiment. The conversation spans the concepts of embodiment, cycle breaking within families and generational healing and how to get back into a healthier relationship with yourself and others. 

Discover: 

-The important practice of crying dates to help rediscover yourself & your instincts;

-How to learn the difference between your trauma and your personality; and

-What it means to be a cycle breaker & how to own your part in generational healing.

About Prentis: Prentis Hemphill is a writer, embodiment facilitator, political organizer, and therapist. They are the founder and director of the Embodiment Institute and the Black Embodiment Initiative, and the host of the acclaimed podcast Finding Our Way. Their work and writing have appeared in The New York Times, HuffPost, You Are Your Best Thing (edited by Tarana Burke and Brené Brown), and Holding Change (by adrienne maree brown). And their new book is called, What it takes to heal.

In honor of Pride month, Glennon shares an encore conversation that she and Amanda had with Abby about how she healed from religious trauma and found spirituality again.

Originally titled, QUEER FREEDOM: How can we be both held and free? Abby, Amanda and Glennon discussed: 

-How Abby learned from church as a child to hate herself—and the healing moment she realized that God and religion are not the same.

-The miraculous letter Glennon received from a reader the day after she came out.

-Glennon’s response to the statement “I disagree with your lifestyle, but I love you anyway.”

-When it’s time to either raise hell inside of—or leave—the institutions that require us to deny who we are or what we know.

318. Tegan and Sara Ask: Did We Do Enough? 

Tegan and Sara join us for a heartfelt conversation about sisterhood, career, legacy, and the loneliness of being “The First”. 

Discover: 

-Why Tegan and Sara are asking themselves, “Did we do enough?”;

-Their backstage disputes and what it taught them about resolving family disagreement; 

-The pain and beauty of paving the way, and how Abby relates; and

-The one question you need to ask yourself to know whether your life is actually working for you.

About Tegan & Sara

Throughout their career of over 20 years, Tegan and Sara have built a multi-faceted media empire that extends into TV, books, newsletters, and public service, always deeply rooted in music. 

With multiple JUNO Award wins and numerous GRAMMY, GLAAD, and Polaris Prize Award nominations, Tegan and Sara’s crowning achievement is the Tegan and Sara Foundation.

Tegan and Sara are the authors of the New York Times best-selling memoir High School. Their second book, Tegan & Sara: Crush, will be released on October 1, 2024.

IG: @teganandsara

X: @teganandsara 

317. What Amanda’s Learned About Life, Love & Community (Post Surgery Pt 2) 

Amanda details surgery day, her healing process, and the role her community has played in getting her through it all. 

Discover: 

-The choice Amanda made about who came back with her for surgery;

-Amanda’s scariest and lowest moments so far, as well as the most beautiful ones; and

-Abby’s advice about how to approach surgeries and your relationship with your doctors; 

To hear the first two episodes about Amanda’s diagnosis, as well as the one before this, listen at the links below: 

-Episode 309 Amanda’s Diagnosis and What’s Next (Pt. 1) 

-Episode 310: Amanda’s Diagnosis and What’s Next (Pt. 2) 

-Episode 316: Amanda Returns Post Surgery: Here’s What She Wants You To Know

316. Amanda Returns Post Surgery: Here’s What She Wants You To Know 

Amanda returns nine days post surgery to share more about the process of finding a surgeon, the importance of seeking multiple medical opinions, the critical elements of preparing for surgery, and how she’s recovering so far. This episode is full of insights and tips for those going through a breast cancer diagnosis or those who love someone who is going through one. As you listen, please note that the hosts are not medical professionals, but only sharing their own personal experience. For any medical advice, please consult with your doctor. 

Discover: 

-Amanda, Glennon and Abby’s three must-have tips to handle doctors appointments; 

-Some important things Amanda found out about mastectomies and female pleasure, and why it is important to bring it up to your doctor; and

-An emotional moment Amanda had while finding a surgeon and how Glennon and Abby helped her through it. 

To hear the first two episodes about Amanda’s diagnosis, listen at the links below: 

-Episode 309 Amanda’s Diagnosis and What’s Next (Pt. 1) 

-Episode 310: Amanda’s Diagnosis and What’s Next (Pt. 2)

315. Grief: How to Move Through Losing a Friend with Sloane Crosley

CW: Discussion of suicide 

Abby and Glennon welcome New York Times bestselling author Sloane Crosley. Sloane shares her experience of losing her dear friend to suicide and the grief journey she went on in the aftermath. The conversation explores handling loss, the nuances of friendship, humor in the face of sorrow, and living in the present moment.

Discover: 

-Whether the desire to give meaning to a death helps or hurts the grieving process;

-What NOT to say after someone dies by suicide and what might help; 

-The place of humor in grief: when it’s useful and when it’s a coverup; and

-The reason you have every right to deeply grieve a friend and the pain of grief hierarchies. 

About Sloane: 

Sloane Crosley is the New York Times bestselling author of the new memoir Grief Is for People; the novels Cult Classic and The Clasp; and three essay collections: Look Alive Out There, I Was Told There’d Be Cake, and How Did You Get This Number. She lives in New York City.

314. Jealousy: Glennon & Abby Share It All 

Glennon and Abby candidly discuss their personal experiences with jealousy. They explore how jealousy manifests, its implications on their connection, and the steps they've taken toward understanding and addressing it.

Discover:

-Abby and Glennon’s jealousy origin stories;

-Abby’s confession to Glennon about her jealousy;

-Why self trust might be the key to overcoming jealousy; and

-How Glennon and Abby protect each other’s hearts AND wounds in their relationship.

313. How to Turn a Mistake into Magic with Suleika Jaouad

Glennon speaks one-on-one with the brilliant Suleika Jaouad about Suleika's journey through the messy middle – living well in a body that does not feel well, and creating a life of beautiful defiance.

Discover: 

• Why believing we should “Live everyday like our last” is unhelpful;
• Why the unproductive periods of life are *actually* where you do the most work;
• The specific, best ways to really show up for friends who are in the messy middle; 
• How to alchemize your pain into creativity; and
• The lessons we can all learn from Jellyfish  

Suleika Jaouad is the author of the instant New York Times bestselling memoir, Between Two Kingdoms. She wrote the Emmy Award-winning New York Times column “Life, Interrupted,” and her reporting and essays have been featured in the New York Times Magazine, The Atlantic, Vogue, and NPR, among others. A highly sought-after speaker, her TED Talk – “What Almost Dying Taught Me About Living” – has nearly five million views. She is also the creator of The Isolation Journals, a community creativity project founded during the pandemic to help others convert isolation into artistic solitude.

IG: @suleikajaouad

312. Potholes & Productive Conflict in Relationships with Abby & Glennon

Abby and Glennon answer ALL of your relationship questions. We get into juicy topics like how to fight better, the balance of individuation and connection in relationships, and how to take ownership of your own feelings vs. judging your partner’s behaviors. 

Discover: 

-What introverts and extroverts have to learn from each other and how they can be in a relationship effectively;

-Abby and Glennon’s unbelievable golf cart fight and tips on how to have more productive conflicts; 

-How to let go of the need to control someone else; and

-What Abby means when she says, “woof.”

311. Post Diagnosis: Glennon & Abby Reflect and Decide What Needs to Change 

Glennon and Abby reflect on the dynamics of love, control, and support in relationships in the wake of Amanda’s diagnosis. 

Discover: 

-The simple sentence that Tish said to Glennon that shattered her reality;

-Glennon’s creative way of reading books & what it has to do with controlling others; and

-Why Glennon didn’t speak for a week after finding out sister’s diagnosis & what it felt like inside.

310. Amanda’s Diagnosis & What’s Next (Pt. 2) 

In Part 2, Amanda shares more from the messy middle of her breast cancer diagnosis. She talks candidly about her hopes, fears, and what she has realized really matters. 

To listen to the first part of our conversation with Amanda, click here: Amanda’s Diagnosis and What’s Next (Pt. 1)

309. Amanda’s Diagnosis and What’s Next (Pt. 1) 

Amanda shares the news about her health and what’s next for her healing. Amanda, Glennon, and Abby go into the tactical, philosophical and emotional aspects of this diagnosis and all share how they’re feeling about it and working through it at this moment.

308. Brittney Griner On Coming Home & Recovering From Trauma 

Glennon and Abby talk with athlete, humanitarian, activist–and one of the bravest people they’ve met–Brittney Griner. Brittney discusses her harrowing experience in the Russian prison system, as well as her basketball career, recovering from trauma, and her excitement over becoming a parent. 

Discover: 

-Why she went to Russia in the first place – and the gender pay gap in women’s sports; 

-Her first thought as she stepped foot on American soil after her time in a Russian penal colony;

-How she feels about America now that she’s back; and 

-How she reconciled her relationship with her dad after having a tough time coming out 

About Brittney: 

BRITTNEY GRINER is a pioneer, humanitarian, and activist and was named as one of TIME magazine’s 100 Most Influential People in 2023. Griner is an NCAA champion, a WNBA champion, and a two-time Olympic gold medalist. Winner of the Best Female Athlete ESPY Award, and a nine-time WNBA All-Star, Griner is one of the most decorated and influential athletes of this generation.

IG: @brittneyyevettegriner

307. Healing From Complex PTSD with Stephanie Foo

Abby, Amanda and Glennon are joined by author and radio producer, Stephanie Foo. They discuss Stephanie’s memoir, What My Bones Know, and her journey healing from Complex PTSD. 

Discover: 

-The difference between Trauma, PTSD and complex PTSD; 

-What “THE DREAD” is and how to know if you have it; 

-Why if the trauma is relational, the healing has to be relational, too, and what that means, in-action; and 

-Whether you can ever truly give what you never got as a parent. 

CW: Discussion of physical and verbal abuse and neglect.

About Stephanie:

Stephanie Foo is a writer and the author of the New York Times bestseller, WHAT MY BONES KNOW: A Memoir of Healing from Complex Trauma. She is also a radio producer, most recently for This American Life. Her work has aired on Snap Judgment, Reply All, 99% Invisible, and Radiolab. A noted speaker and instructor, she has taught at Columbia University and has spoken at venues from Sundance Film Festival to the Missouri Department of Mental Health. She lives in New York City.

IG: @foofoofoo

306. The Truth of OCD: Therapist Alegra Kastens on Living with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder

Therapist Alegra Kastens shares the truth about her lived experience with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD) that is vital for all of us to understand. Detailing her own struggle, and work as an OCD specialist, Alegra helps demystify the relentless cycle of ego-dystonic, intrusive thoughts, anxiety, and compulsions that define this often-misunderstood and under-diagnosed disorder – sharing why so many people have OCD and do not know it, and ways to support people with OCD without enabling and reinforcing the compulsions.

CW: Discussion of intrusive sexual and violent thoughts as well as suicidal ideation.

About Alegra:

Alegra Kastens is a licensed therapist, OCD specialist, writer, and the founder of the Center for OCD, Anxiety, and Eating Disorders in New York City. Fueled by lived experience with a lesser-known manifestation of OCD, education and advocacy about OCD are at the forefront of her career.

IG: @AlegraKastens

TikTok: @AlegraKastens

305. How to Self-Regulate, Heal Your Relationships & Accept That You’ll Never Be Finished 

As we continue the discussion on Busyness, Amanda, Glennon & Abby share more of their thoughts about the cult of Busyness – how buying into it shows up in you and your relationships, and how it leads to dysregulation and dissatisfaction in all areas of life. We go through the signs that might indicate you’re too busy and burnt out, how to know the difference between building a life and living a life, and why dysregulation can be a breadcrumb toward healing.

Discover: 

-Why the addiction of busyness will never be pointed out or helped by most people; 

-Why Abby says the idea of retirement is the greatest heist in human history; and

-The emotional breakdown Amanda had, which led to starting her healing journey.

Also check out:

304. Break Up with Busyness & Let Go of Your To-Do List

281. How Amanda Finally Calmed Her Brain & Her Letter from Love with Liz Gilbert 

261. How to Stretch Time with Jenny Odell

139. No More Grind: How to Finally Rest with Tricia Hersey

93. BURNOUT: Do You Feel Half Alive? with Emily and Amelia Nagoski

304. Break Up with Busyness & Let Go of Your To-Do List

Amanda delves into her relationship with Busyness and how she’s working through it. We’ll touch on topics such as the pervasive culture of busyness, productivity as a measure of self-worth, and the struggle to define personal boundaries and prioritize genuine happiness (after some hilarious banter between Glennon and Abby about how to deal with “disgusting” things in a relationship).

Discover: 

-Why Busyness is such a pervasive and oppressive cult for so many of us;

-How to decouple your self-esteem and identity from your productivity;

-The actionable tactic Amanda is using in her break up with Busyness; and

-How your pets prove that the religion of busyness is a lie. 

Check out these episodes, too:

281. How Amanda Finally Calmed Her Brain & Her Letter from Love with Liz Gilbert 

261. How to Stretch Time with Jenny Odell

139. No More Grind: How to Finally Rest with Tricia Hersey

93. BURNOUT: Do You Feel Half Alive? with Emily and Amelia Nagoski

303. Laziness Does Not Exist with Devon Price 

Why are we so scared of laziness? How have we been convinced to tie our worthiness to busy-ness and how do we STOP and create lives we are excited to live?

Social psychologist and author, Devon Price, teaches us how we got bamboozled and sets us free from the Laziness Lie.

Discover:

-How to rest, reorient priorities, and say “No” to reclaim our time and energy and avoid burnout.

-Glennon asks Devin her favorite question: “What the hell is gender?”

-The importance of listening to dread and recognizing when something doesn’t feel right.

-Why resenting others for not doing enough often indicates that you're doing too much. 

Plus, Devon shares an exercise for reflecting on the moments when you felt most yourself and aligned with your values – in order to create more meaningful life experiences.

About Devon:

Devon Price, PhD, is a social psychologist, professor, author, and proud Autistic person. His books include Unmasking Autism and Laziness Does Not Exist. His forthcoming book, Unlearning Shame, will be released in February 2024.

Devon’s research has appeared in journals such as the Journal of Experimental Social Psychology, Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin, and the Journal of Positive Psychology. Devon’s writing has appeared in the Financial Times, HuffPost, The Los Angeles Times, Business Insider, and on PBS, NPR, MSNBC, and the BBC.

He lives in Chicago, where he serves as an assistant professor at Loyola University Chicago’s School of Continuing and Professional Studies.

TW: @drdevonprice

IG: @drdevonprice

Glennon shares an encore conversation that she and Abby had with their favorite person and co-host: Amanda Doyle!

This episode, originally titled, How to Face Your Biggest Fear with Amanda Doyle, examines the relationships, decisions, and travels that led Amanda to today – from hitchhiking across Ireland, to prosecuting child sex offenders in Rwanda, to making the biggest decision of her life in an Ethiopian airport – they dive into Amanda’s lifelong fear of the ordinary.

About Amanda:

Amanda Doyle is Glennon Doyle’s Business Manager and co-host of the We Can Do Hard Things podcast with her sister Glennon Doyle and sister-in-law Abby Wambach. She is Vice President, General Counsel, and a member of the Together Rising Board of Directors. In these roles, Amanda is responsible for overseeing and advising on legal matters, including risk management, policy development, and programmatic affairs, as well as cultivating new initiatives and relationships to strengthen the organization’s impact. A former attorney at the law firm of Hogan Lovells and Legal Fellow with International Justice Mission, Amanda lives in Falls Church, Virginia with her husband and two children.

302. Chelsea Handler on Happiness, Groundedness & the Upcoming Election

Chelsea Handler is back to join Glennon, Amanda, and Abby for a heartfelt and hilarious conversation about life. She tells us how she found her happiness, how to take accountability in your own life, and why – if she has to confront someone doing something WILD or offensive – she’s going to have a little fun! 

Discover: 

-Why being selfish is the ultimate gift we can give to the world and each other; 

-The unexpected side-effect Chelsea experienced from therapy and how to move through it if it’s happening to you, too;

-Chelsea’s thoughts about how to navigate big feelings during the upcoming election cycle; and 

-Chelsea’s story about a stranger on a chairlift and their exchange about Taylor Swift. 

For our previous conversation with Chelsea, check out:

115. Chelsea Handler: On Breaking Up & Being Unbreakable

About Chelsea

Chelsea Handler is a comedian, television host, podcast host, author, and advocate whose humor and candor have established her as one of the most celebrated voices in entertainment and pop culture.

Chelsea is the author of six New York Times bestsellers, five of which are #1 bestsellers – including Life Will Be the Death of Me. She hosts the iHeart Radio advice podcast, Dear Chelsea – and her most recent critically acclaimed comedy special, Revolution, is available on Netflix. If you want to see her live, Chelsea is currently on her Little Big Bitch stand-up tour.

IG: @chelseahandler

301. What You Need To Know to Have More Fun TODAY with Catherine Price 

We’re back with Fun Expert and author of, Fun: How to Feel Alive Again, Catherine Price, to talk more about fun: what it is and how to have more of it. Today, we’ll discuss whether fun and productivity can coexist, thoughts about women and fun, and why the right to fun might just be innately connected to the human experience AND activism.

Discover: 

-The definitive reason why Abby has the MOST fun and how you, too, can use her fun strategy; 

-Why fun actually increases creativity and productivity; 

-Why people view women having fun as offensive and why we must do it anyway; and 

-Actionable tools you can use to invite more fun into your life!

Check out the last episode we did with Catherine and these others about fun, too:

301. FUN: We’re Finally Figuring It Out with Catherine Price

4. FUN: What the hell is it and why do we need it?

62. The Big Lies & the Truth About Happiness with Dr. Laurie Santos

63. How to Live a Little Happier with Dr. Laurie Santos

216. How to Find DELIGHT Today (and Every Day) with Ross Gay

On Catherine: 

Catherine Price is the author of The Power of Fun: How to Feel Alive Again.  She is also an award-winning health and science journalist, founder of Screen/Life Balance, and author of How to Break Up With Your Phone. She runs a substack newsletter called “How to Feel Alive” and her TED Talk, Why having fun is the secret to a healthier life, has been viewed close to five million times. 

IG: @_catherineprice

X: @catherine_price

300. FUN: We’re Finally Figuring It Out with Catherine Price 

Pod Squad! Do you remember back in the very first days of the pod when we talked about FUN? It was episode 4. Now, hundreds of episodes later, we’re finally ready to give fun the long, deep dive and consideration it deserves. Abby is excited, Glennon is interested, and Amanda is skeptical, but we’re all here, ready to learn and maybe even to have a little fun. Thankfully, Fun Expert (how cool is that title?) and author of, The Power of Fun: How to Feel Alive Again, Catherine Price is here to be our fun ambassador and to teach us all how to draw more fun and fun opportunities into day-to-day life!

Discover: 

-The difference between real fun and fake fun;

-The mental load’s impact on fun;

-The three necessary ingredients for fun and how find your “Fun Magnets;” plus

-Abby, Glennon, and Amanda’s stand out fun moments and how they plan to create more of that in their lives.

Check out these other episodes, too: 

4. FUN: What the hell is it and why do we need it?

62. The Big Lies & the Truth About Happiness with Dr. Laurie Santos

63. How to Live a Little Happier with Dr. Laurie Santos

216. How to Find DELIGHT Today (and Every Day) with Ross Gay

On Catherine: 

Catherine Price is the author of The Power of Fun: How to Feel Alive Again.  She is also an award-winning health and science journalist, founder of Screen/Life Balance, and author of How to Break Up With Your Phone. She runs a substack newsletter called “How to Feel Alive” and her TED Talk, Why having fun is the secret to a healthier life, has been viewed close to five million times. 

IG: @_catherineprice

X: @catherine_price

299. Parenting: How to Nurture Yourself and Others

In this episode we’re going deep into parenting. Glennon, Abby, and Amanda (along with the help of Tracee Ellis Ross, Michelle Obama and Dr. Becky Kennedy) discuss the brutiful journey of parenting, reparenting ourselves, and learning how to love and be loved. 

Discover: 

-Tracee Ellis Ross rejects the lie that a woman’s purpose is to be “chosen” – and what “mothering” means to her

-Michelle Obama tells us how to finally live in our own enoughness; 

-How to know if you are engaging in “pendulum parenting;”

-The #1 strategy for all relationships: REPAIR, with Dr. Becky Kennedy; and 

-The moment Abby finally felt lovable. 

Check out the full episodes:

12. PARENTING: How do we make this thrilling, terrifying roller coaster ride a little bit easier?

167. Tracee Ellis Ross: How to Make Peace in Your Own Head

13. Brave Parenting Qs & the Power of Saying YES!

193. MICHELLE OBAMA!

267. The #1 Relationship Strategy with Dr. Becky Kennedy

189. Abby for the 1st Time On Divorce & Her Unrequited Love

298. How to Survive Your 20s, Abby On Bonus Parenting & IS Anyone TRULY Toxic?

Amanda, Glennon and Abby give an update about things they’re thinking about including: Glennon’s favorite memes, Amanda’s realization about leadership in her family, and Abby’s exhaustion turned to joy. Plus, we answer questions from the Pod Squad on surviving your 20s, and how to navigate bonus parenthood.

Discover: 

-The simple, three-step process that revolutionized the way Amanda thinks about leadership and parenting; 

-Abby’s heartfelt advice to a Pod Squader on how to navigate her 20s & why need ALL need it, no matter our age;

-Insight into Abby’s journey as a mother & why being in your kid’s memories is everything; 

-Glennon’s surprising take on labeling people as “toxic” and what to do instead. 

297. REAL Self-Care: Burnout Is Not Your Fault & the Way Out with Dr. Pooja Lakshmin

Psychiatrist Dr. Pooja Lakshmin shows us how to tell the difference between the Faux Self-Care we’ve been sold versus the Real Self-Care we desperately need.

Discover: 

• How to incorporate boundaries through the power of the pause and how to navigate the post-boundary ick with ease;
• A simple tool to know whether you are being driven by your goals or driven by your values (and how to find and start living by your values today); and
• Whether you might be in ‘martyr mode,’ and the key to getting out of it. 

About Pooja: Dr. Pooja Lakshmin is a board-certified psychiatrist, author, keynote speaker, and a contributor to The New York Times. Her debut book, REAL SELF-CARE: Crystals, Cleanses, and Bubble-Baths Not Included, is an NPR Best Book of 2023 and a national best-seller. Pooja serves as a clinical assistant professor of psychiatry at George Washington University School of Medicine, and maintains an active private practice where she treats women struggling with burnout, perfectionism, and disillusionment, as well as clinical conditions like depression, anxiety and ADHD. She frequently speaks, advises and consults for organizations on mental health and well-being. Pooja writes the weekly Substack newsletter, Real Self-Care. 

IG: @poojalakshmin

296. Abby & Amanda’s IFS Therapy Sessions with Richard Schwartz: Why We Do What We Don’t Want to Do

In Part 2 of our Internal Family Systems (IFS) discussion with IFS founder Richard C. Schwartz, we dive into how to recognize and hear from your own parts, how to know when you are being led by your parts instead of your true self, and Abby and Amanda each have a transformative on-air IFS therapy sessions!

Discover: 

-The KEY to uncovering your true self; 

-How to apply IFS to parenting;

-Abby’s revelation during her IFS session about how to finally find self-love; 

-The parts behind Amanda’s journey to satisfaction; and 

-How to have compassion AND Gratitude for your inner critic;

For Part 1 of this conversation, check out: Inside an Internal Family Systems (IFS) Therapy Session with Glennon & Richard C. Schwartz 

For our earlier episodes that deal with IFS, check out:

Episode 170. The Most Radical Way to Heal: Internal Family Systems with Dr. Becky Kennedy; and

Episode 252. Martha Beck Helps Amanda Let Go 

Richard C. Schwartz, PhD, is the creator of Internal Family Systems, a highly effective, evidence-based therapeutic model that depathologizes the multi-part personality. His IFS Institute offers training for professionals and the general public. He is currently on the faculty of Harvard Medical School and has published five books, including No Bad Parts: Healing Trauma and Restoring Wholeness with the Internal Family Systems Model. 

Social Media: 

Instagram: @internalfamilysystems

295. Inside an Internal Family Systems (IFS) Therapy Session with Glennon & Richard C. Schwartz

You don’t want to miss this riveting deep dive into Internal Family Systems (IFS) – the revolutionary therapy model that Glennon has been using in her recovery – with IFS founder Dr. Richard C. Schwartz. Dr. Schwartz even does an on-air IFS session with Glennon!  

Discover: 

-Finally, the answer to the question “Why do I do what I don’t want to do?” 

-How our parts get exiled or locked away and the path to free them; 

-Why your self-sabotaging parts often believe you are a very little kid and how to update them; and

-The must-hear healing revelation from Glennon’s live therapy session with Dr. Schwartz.

CW: Self-harm, eating disorders

For our prior episodes that deal with IFS, check out:

Episode 170. The Most Radical Way to Heal: Internal Family Systems with Dr. Becky Kennedy; and

Episode 252. Martha Beck Helps Amanda Let Go 

Richard C. Schwartz, PhD, is the creator of Internal Family Systems, a highly effective, evidence-based therapeutic model that depathologizes the multi-part personality. His IFS Institute offers training for professionals and the general public. He is currently on the faculty of Harvard Medical School, and has published five books, including No Bad Parts: Healing Trauma and Restoring Wholeness with the Internal Family Systems Model.

Social Media: 

Instagram: @internalfamilysystems

294. What ADHD Feels Like with Jaklin Levine-Pritzker

ADHD coach and mental health advocate, Jaklin Levine-Pritzker, shares about her late-in-life ADHD diagnosis and what ADHD feels like day to day. Jak reveals the unique challenges faced by those – especially women and non-binary people – who don’t fit the stereotypical ADHD mold. We discuss the emotional impacts of ADHD, its benefits, and how people with ADHD can design a life that serves their brain's unique wiring instead of conforming to a neurotypical world.  

Plus, Jak offers valuable advice for relationships between neurotypical and neurodivergent people.

Also, check out: Ep 220 Why So Many Women Don’t Know They are Autistic with Katherine May and Ep 82 Hannah Gadsby: How to Communicate Better.

About Jaklin:

Jaklin Levine-Pritzker is an ADHD coach, mental health advocate, and founder of Authentically ADHD LLC – empowering thousands of ADHD’ers. Jak offers ideas on healing internalized shame and tools to build a life that actually works for the ADHD brain.

She is passionate about normalizing and de-pathologizing what being human means, particularly a neurodivergent (and queer!) human.

IG: @authenticallyadhd

Website: http://www.authenticallyadhd.com

293. The One Question to Finally Let Go of Control with ALOK

Alok Vaid-Menon is back exploring belonging, beauty, community, and the freedom in letting go of the need to control. Buckle up, podquad, this episode will change your life! 

Discover: 

• How we can embrace the absurd chaos of life instead of struggling against it;
• The way to find energy to keep going through stress of life and politics;
• Why ALOK responds to hate with love, not because they want to be the bigger person, but because they want to win;
• How to create your own personal beauty playlist; and
• The power of being a living contraction, and how to find people who keep letting you change forever.     

After you listen to this episode, be sure to check out our two prior episodes with ALOK: Episode 74 – ALOK: What makes us beautiful? What makes us free? & Episode 75 – ALOK: How do we interrupt trauma? How do we heal?

Alok Vaid-Menon is an internationally acclaimed author, poet, comedian, and public speaker. As a mixed-media artist their work explores themes of trauma, belonging, and the human condition. They are the author of Femme in Public, Beyond the Gender Binary, and Your Wound/My Garden; and the creator of #DeGenderFashion: an initiative to degender fashion and beauty industries. 

Alok is the subject of the documentary short film ALOK, which kicked off this year’s Sundance Film Festival Short Film Program and was directed by filmmaker Alex Hedison and executive produced by Jodie Foster.

IG: @alokvmenon

Episode 292. What These Palestinian & Israeli Activists Need Us to Know: Standing Together’s Sally Abed & Alon-Lee Green 

Sally Abed, an elected leader at Standing Together and Alon-Lee Green, the National co-Director and a founder of Standing Together, talk us through what is happening in Palestine and Israel right now, their own stories of growing up and living through it, and how we can help in their mission to bring liberation, equality, and peace to all who live on the land:

- Why Palestinian liberation and Jewish safety are completely interconnected; 

- Who’s really benefiting from the U.S. sending billions of dollars to the Israeli government;

- The myths Americans have been taught about the Palestinian-Israeli crisis; 

- Why Sally says it is vital that Americans not “sit out” the upcoming elections; and

- How we can help the PEOPLE on the land today to secure a ceasefire, end the Israeli occupation of Palestine, bring the hostages home, and secure peace, liberation, and safety for all. 

On Standing Together: 

Standing Together is a grassroots movement mobilizing Jewish and Palestinian citizens of Israel in pursuit of peace, equality, and social and climate justice. While the minority who benefit from the status quo of occupation and economic inequality seek to keep us divided, we know that we — the majority — have far more in common than that which sets us apart. When we stand together, we are strong enough to fundamentally alter the existing socio-political reality. The future that we want — peace and independence for Israelis and Palestinians, full equality for all citizens, and true social, economic, and environmental justice — is possible. Because where there is struggle, there is hope.

- To Learn More: https://www.standing-together.org/en

- To Join their Mission: https://www.standing-together.org/friends 

- To Give:  https://www.standing-together.org/donatehere

- If you can attend their NYC event: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/fighting-for-peace-and-justice-standing-together-nyc-fundraiser-registration-849180350287

Episode 291. Dr. Ford Debrief: Glennon & Amanda Are Fired Up

Glennon, Abby and Amanda dive into their questions, struggles, and reactions to yesterday’s powerful interview with Dr. Christine Blasey Ford – including asking Why Are We Asked to Do the “Right” Thing for a System that Refuses to do Right by Us?

• How Amanda opened the dialogue with her kids about consent, sexual violence, and what happens when our leaders do the wrong thing – and how you can do the same;
• How those in power exploit our innate willingness to sacrifice; and 
• Whether we need to free ourselves from the burden of “Doing the right thing.” 

Don’t miss our interview with Dr. Ford: Episode 290. Dr. Christine Blasey Ford Speaks Out

CW: sexual assault and harassment .

Episode 290. Dr. Christine Blasey Ford Speaks Out

We all remember the moment we held our breath as Dr. Christine Blasey Ford courageously raised her right hand and spoke her truth in the Kavanaugh hearings.

She takes us back to that moment – what led to it, and what followed:

• Why we should stop saying, “trust women” & “I believe you” – and what to do instead;
• Why we should shift our faith to the  “other them;” 
• How Professor Anita Hill made Dr. Ford’s courage and testimony possible; and
• The hope and heartbreak of being a woman in America. 

Please come back tomorrow for a special episode debriefing this powerful conversation!

Dr. Christine Blasey Ford is a professor of psychology at Palo Alto University and a clinical professor and consulting biostatistician at the Stanford University School of Medicine. On September 27, 2018, Dr. Ford testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee regarding her sexual assault in connection with the Committee’s consideration of Judge Brett Kavanaugh’s lifetime confirmation to the United States Supreme Court. Following her testimony, Ford and her family endured constant intimidation, harassment, and death threats forcing them to move out of their home, living in various secure locales with guards. In 2019, she was named one of the 100 most influential people in Time 100.  Dr. Ford’s memoir, ONE WAY BACK, is available today.  

CW: Sexual assault and harassment

Today we are talking about THE SPORTS. Podsquader Naomi calls in – confused, and slightly embarrassed – about how distraught she is over the loss of her new favorite sports team, asking how to handle it and what, exactly, is going on with her? 

Glennon, Abby and Amanda attempt to answer: What IS it about The Sports that makes it so damn emotional?   

We go into:

• The psychology of why our bodies are taken over when our favorite team (or our kid!) is playing; 
• Glennon’s recent suboptimal moment with a referee, 
• Why Amanda truly believes she is has a JOB while watching games; and 
• The way Abby creates an “energy shift” to help her kids win.

In this follow up to our previous episode on Being Left Out – Episode 241 Being Left Out: Navigating that Lifelong Ache – Abby, Amanda and Glennon dive into a listener question about being left out and having to leave people out: Why it hurts so much; advice for listeners on a kinder, more honest way to leave someone else out; and some of the times Glennon has felt wildly left out at big, scary, fancy events.

Music legend Alanis Morissette (!) is here to discuss her life as a Highly Sensitive Person and why HSPs so often turn to addiction. Alanis shares strategies for managing the flood of emotions and information that she experiences as a life-long empath.

• The normalization of under communication and the impact of being a child of the "white knuckle generation”;
• Addiction as a means of self regulating – and how to recognize dysregulation and find healthier coping mechanisms; and
• The beauty of getting older and finally recovering the person you were always meant to be.

About Alanis: 

Alanis Morissette is one of the most influential singer-songwriter-musicians and artists. Her deeply expressive music and performances have earned multiple awards – including 7 Grammy® Awards. She has sold over 75 million albums worldwide and was inducted into the Canadian Music Hall of Fame and The Canadian Songwriter Hall of Fame. 

Her debut album JAGGED LITTLE PILL, was followed by nine more eclectic and critically acclaimed albums. Her artistic impact can also be seen via the two-time Tony Award winning “Jagged Little Pill, the Musical,” which continues to tour globally. 

Alanis is also a dedicated supporter and student of spiritual, psychological, and physical wholeness which includes addiction and trauma recovery, female empowerment, and the advancement of a more “whole” approach to children’s education. Her podcast “Conversation with Alanis Morissette,” features conversations covering a wide range of psychosocial topics extending from spirituality to developmentalism to art.  

TW: @Alanis

IG: @alanis

Real talk? Modern parenting is a doozy. There’s never been more pressure to be perfect with social media readily at our fingertips - mixed with total isolation and no help. Where the f*ck is that village everyone talks about? Consider After Bedtime your village. Led by Kristin and Deena - founders of the largest online parenting community, Big Little Feelings - After Bedtime is the place you can go at the end of a long hard day to find your “enough”-ness. We’ll laugh, we’ll cry, we’ll maybe pee our pants a little as we unpack things we’re ALL experiencing but too ashamed to talk about: imperfect marriages, miscarriages, managing toddler mania, apologizing to our kids and everything in between. You’ll leave with actionable, realistic tips to make this whole parenting thing smoother - small changes, big impact. In an age where parents need more *real* connection than ever, let’s talk honestly about the hard - and remind ourselves we are not alone, we are not failing. In fact, we’re f*cking crushing it.

What is happening in America – where apparently women who don’t want to be pregnant have to be pregnant, and women who want to be pregnant have to not be pregnant?!?

In today’s conversation with Jessica Yellin, former chief White House Correspondent and founder of News Not Noise, we discuss exactly what happened in the recent Alabama ruling that halted IVF treatments, what it means for access to fertility treatments, which states could be next – and how it is all an attack on reproductive rights. We discuss the fetal personhood movement’s trajectory that would jeopardize birth control and even same-sex marriage.  

We also talk about how to stay motivated and involved in these collective struggles (and the election season ahead) while also taking care of yourself. 

Another must-listen on what is going on with Reproductive Justice in America – where we are, how we got here, and four things we need to do to get out of here, listen to Episode 108: ABORTION: Family Meeting on Four Things to Do Next

About Jessica: 

Jessica Yellin is the founder of News Not Noise, a pioneering Webby award-winning independent news brand. Over 1M+ subscribers and followers across Instagram and other digital media rely on Jessica and News Not Noise to understand what matters, which experts to trust, and to manage their “information overload.” She is the former chief White House correspondent for CNN and an Emmy and Gracie Award-winning political correspondent for ABC, MSNBC and CNN. 

Follow Jessica on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook @JessicaYellin. 

Also, don’t miss her nervous-system regulating You can also find the News Not Noise Newsletter on Substack.

Today, Glennon shares a very special conversation with two of her favorite people on the planet: Brandi Carlile and Tish Melton. In this celebration of music, collaboration, friendship, and community, they take you behind the scenes of how Brandi and Tish created Tish’s debut EP, When We're Older.  

Discover: 

-What it’s really like having Brandi Carlile as your mentor; 

- The happy 3:00 AM accidents that found their way into the album; 

- Why we need to take girls’ emotions seriously; 

-What it finally took for Glennon and Tish to – just recently – realize they are two different people; and 

-Why we should stop justifying who we are.  

Download/Stream Tish’s debut EP, When We’re Older, Here: https://ffm.to/whenwereolder 

For our other We Can Do Hard Things conversations with Brandi Carlile, check out:

Episode 76. Brandi Carlile: Live From My Couch!

Episode 77. Double Date with Brandi & Catherine Carlile!

Brandi Carlile is an eleven-time GRAMMY Award-winning singer, songwriter, performer, producer, #1 New York Times Bestselling author and activist – one of music's most respected voices. Aside from the production of her own work, Carlile has been increasingly in-demand as a record producer – helming albums by Tanya Tucker, Lucius, The Secret Sisters, Brandy Clark, and Tish Melton. Tanya Tucker’s 2019 album While I’m Livin’, co-produced by Carlile with Shooter Jennings, won the GRAMMY for Best Country Album. Last year saw her production talents excel with new album projects from Brandy Clark and Joni Mitchell – both of which took home wins at this year's GRAMMY Awards – as well as her cover of “Home” for the last season of Ted Lasso and her version of “Closer To Fine” with wife Catherine Carlile for Barbie The Album (Best Weekend Ever Edition). Carlile has collaborated closely with Joni Mitchell, Elton John, The Highwomen, Soundgarden, Alicia Keys, Marcus Mumford, Dolly Parton and more. When not on the road, she spends time in her home studio in rural Washington state where she and Catherine raise their two daughters, Evangeline and Elijah.

Tish Melton: 18-year-old singer, songwriter and multi-instrumentalist who wears her incredibly perceptive heart on her sleeve. “As a songwriter, I’ve realized you can just tell stories,” she says. “They don’t have to be big, dramatic moments. Personally, I learned how to write songs by simply sharing my journey and feeling how I naturally do.” For her debut EP When We’re Older, she has teamed up with eleven-time GRAMMY® Award-winning artist Brandi Carlile, who is a mentor to Melton and joins as producer. Their musical chemistry is undeniable, rooted in mutual respect, shared taste, and an appreciation for good songwriting and musical catharsis. Inspired by the clear-eyed storytelling and indie rock influences of Taylor Swift and boygenius, Melton chronicles teenage relationships – from the lonely pain of first love, unrequited love, friend crushes, joyous friendships, and the pain, fear and excitement of becoming an adult. She tells these stories as she’s living them, with a sharp eye for detail and lyricism that brings them to life. Her work has received praise from Variety, V Magazine, FLOOD, and Magnet Magazine. When We’re Older is a bold and generous opening statement from a newcomer who is destined to share her stories, and it’s available to stream or download now.

Lindsay C. Gibson, is back again to answer even more of your questions about the emotionally immature people in your life! 

Discover: 

• How to know if your family member is a narcissist or emotionally immature + the major difference between the two;
• What to do if you realize that you are emotionally immature and the best ways to build up your emotional capacities; 
• A gentle way forward if you love your family member, but find yourself healthier when you are not around them; and
• Abby’s new strategy for self-care in complex relationships with family and how you can implement the same tactic in your own life!

To learn more about the emotionally immature people in your life, check out the last episode – ,How to Deal with Emotionally Immature Partners & In-Laws with Lindsay C. Gibson

– as well as Episode 263. Healing from Emotionally Immature Parents with Lindsay C. GIbson and Episode 264. Disentangling from Emotionally Immature People with Lindsay C. Gibson

About Lindsay:

Lindsay C. Gibson is an author and clinical psychologist, and practicing psychotherapist for over thirty years. She has written several books, including Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents and Disentangling from Emotionally Immature People. Dr. Gibson specializes in therapy and coaching with adults to attain new levels of personal growth and confidence in dealing with emotionally immature people. Her books can be found at http://www.lindsaygibsonpsyd.com/books.html, and her website is http://www.lindsaygibsonpsyd.com/.

Lindsay C. Gibson is back by popular demand to answer YOUR questions on the emotionally immature people in your life. 

Discover: 

• How to protect your energy when in relationship with emotionally immature people; 
• Why you might want to pay attention to when and where you use the word “navigate” to describe your relationship with someone;
• Practical tools to set boundaries with emotionally immature in-laws (plus a simple practice to get you and your partner on the same page); 
• Why neglect in romantic relationships is so deeply painful and what to do about it; and
• The best thing to do when partnered with someone who has emotional “Walls” up. (It might surprise you!)

Check out our past episodes with Lindsay Gibson: 

Episode 263. Healing from Emotionally Immature Parents with Lindsay C. GIbson & Episode 264. Disentangling from Emotionally Immature People with Lindsay C. Gibson.

About Lindsay:

Lindsay C. Gibson is an author and clinical psychologist, and practicing psychotherapist for over thirty years. She has written several books, including Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents and Disentangling from Emotionally Immature People. Dr. Gibson specializes in therapy and coaching with adults to attain new levels of personal growth and confidence in dealing with emotionally immature people. Her books can be found at http://www.lindsaygibsonpsyd.com/books.html, and her website is http://www.lindsaygibsonpsyd.com/.

Glennon, Abby, and Amanda respond to a listener’s question about how to find yourself when you’re at your lowest – diving into how to embrace and move through sadness, the gifts of the low times, and what they tell us about our future selves.

Discover: 

• Why feeling anything depends on an understanding of its opposite;
• The true colors of sadness; 
• Why Abby has come to believe that sadness is “kind of cool,”& how she’s navigating her current grief; 
• How to find joy and love yourself the most through a time of sadness; and
• Why sadness is an open floor plan. 

In this episode, Glennon, Abby, and Amanda dive into the deeper meaning of their individual relationships with 'stuff', asking: Do we have stuff, or does stuff have us?

Discover: 

• Sister and Glennon’s extremely different views on stuff and what it might mean about their subconscious mind and yours!
• A test to find out if you are a Keeper or a Clearer;
• Gen Z’s take on stuff…does it reveal a more evolved spiritual perspective?  
• A simple visualization to help you decide what your stuff REALLY means to you; and
• The unbelievable (but true) Storage Wars story that forever changed Abby’s relationship to stuff.

In this beautiful episode, we hear Amanda’s incredible breakthrough in quieting her brain, and how she finally heard from Love with the help of Elizabeth Gilbert.  

Discover: 

• The breathtaking and very odd way that Love ultimately showed up for Amanda;  
• Taylor & Travis’s love lesson for Amanda 
• How to avoid what Liz Gilbert calls “taking a monkey survey” when making important life decisions;
• The “big thing” we are all missing & how it makes us dissatisfied with everything else; and 
• How to get your brain and perfectionism to step back so your greater wisdom can speak. 

On Liz:

Elizabeth Gilbert is author of the international bestseller, EAT PRAY LOVE, which has been translated into over thirty languages, and sold over 12 million copies worldwide. The book became so popular that Time Magazine named Elizabeth as one of the 100 most influential people in the world. In 2010, Elizabeth published a follow-up to EAT PRAY LOVE called COMMITTED—an instant a #1 New York Times Bestseller, as well as BIG MAGIC: CREATIVE LIVING BEYOND FEAR. She is the author of three novels: STERN MEN, THE SIGNATURE OF ALL THINGS, and CITY OF GIRLS. Elizabeth is the creator of the Onward Book Club, which takes place on her Instagram via a live chat, as a way of spotlighting, studying, and celebrating the work of Black women authors. You can also find her on Substack and subscribe to her newsletter: “Letters From Love with Elizabeth Gilbert.” Subscribe here: https://elizabethgilbert.substack.com/ 

Don’t miss Abby and Glennon also sharing their Letters from Love on We Can Do Hard Things episodes 268 and 269:  

Elizabeth Gilbert On Her Most Important Daily Practice (Abby) 

Glennon Shares Her Love Letter with Liz Gilbert 

Glennon, Abby and Amanda battle over their very different views of Valentine’s Day, and absolutely shock the pod squad with a MASSIVE Surprise at the end—stick around, you do not want to miss it! 

Discover: 

• Abby, Amanda and Glennon’s clashing perspectives on V-Day and what your take says about YOU;
• The simple tool to get exactly what you want, whether you’re in a relationship or not;
• How did Valentine’s Day start and is it satisfying to anyone?; and
• Possibly the most exciting thing that has ever happened on the pod! Listen until the end for a MASSIVE surprise you don’t want to miss!

Glennon, Abby, and Amanda answer your questions and attempt to do ‘easy’ things – sharing about their personal lives and on topics like parenthood, personal growth, and playfulness. 

Discover: 

• Why Amanda’s declaring a “Rebuilding Year,” what it means, and whether you might want one too;
• Abby’s advice on how to unlock playfulness;
• Why trying to be ‘good’ is a waste of time and what to strive toward instead; and 
• What your preferred roller coaster seat reveals about your personality.

Ruby Warrington joins us to discuss the often overlooked experiences of women who do not have children - by choice or circumstance.

• How the deeply ingrained belief that womanhood is synonymous with motherhood can be a tool to suppress women's sexuality and autonomy. 

• The reasons women may choose to be child-free – and the myriad ways women can define their lives and identities outside of motherhood; and 

• Why we need community and conversation for everyone on the motherhood spectrum.

For the episode referenced by our Pod Squader, check out: 44. Gabrielle Union: Infertility, Bonus Parents & Free Families.

About Ruby: 

Ruby Warrington is a British-born author, editor, podcaster, and the founder of Numinous Books. She is the author of Women Without Kids: The Revolutionary Rise of an Unsung Sisterhood. Recognized as a true thought leader, Ruby has the unique ability to identify issues that are destined to become part of the cultural narrative. Her previous books include Material Girl, Mystical World; Sober Curious; and The Sober Curious Reset, and her work has been featured in global outlets, including the New York Times, The Guardian, and Good Morning America. She lives in Miami.

IG: @rubywarrington

Glennon, Abby and Amanda take you behind the scenes into the magic of their recent adventure at Brandi Carlile and Catherine Carlile’s GIRLS JUST WANNA Weekend in Mexico. 

Discover: 

• Glennon’s triumphant – gyrating – return to the stage (and why it scared her nephew); 
• The breathtaking moment between Tish and the Pod Squad that brought the house down;
• The magic of centering: why every marginalized community needs its space;
• How to recreate the magic of LETTING GO and being out of control; Plus: 
• Amanda’s pantless debut!