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From the beginning of the conflict in Ukraine, the threat of Russia’s nuclear weapons has loomed large. But would Putin dare to unleash his arsenal? Valerie Plame joins Marc Polymeropoulos to answer this question and to imagine a world without nuclear weapons. Tune in for all this and more.

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Published 2023-12-03

FTS: Justice is Being Served

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Original Air Date: May 12, 2023

This week, Norm and Kavita discuss the E. Jean Carroll Civil verdict and Trump’s CNN town hall meeting. In the bonus section, they discuss Congressman’s Santos’ legal woes and the latest in the debt ceiling negotiations. Join us for this timely discussion.

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Original Air Date: December 1, 2021

Martin Indyk, distinguished fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, former Ambassador of the United States to Israel, and former U.S. special envoy for the Israeli-Palestinian negotiations has written a new book entitled "Master of the Game: Henry Kissinger and the Art of Middle East Diplomacy." In the book, Ambassador Indyk examines how Henry Kissinger worked to ameliorate conflict in the Middle East rather than seek to impose peace. An approach which, Ambassador Indyk asserts, proved to be largely successful. David Rothkopf and Ambassador Indyk explore Kissinger's policy decisions, the impact he had on the Middle East, and grapple with his legacy in this can't miss conversation.

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As AI develops, it will take a more significant role in foreign policy and conflict. Will it serve as a moderating force or one that compounds ruthlessness and the tolls wars take? Joe Cirincione joins David Rothkopf and Jon Wolfsthal to discuss how AI has already become a staple of warfare and the numerous ways that it will become even more ubiquitous in the future.

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On this episode of Deep State Radio, host David Rothkopf discusses the latest polling with Simon Rosenberg. With the election less than a year out, David and Simon discuss everything from the economy to foreign policy, why the math for the Republicans remains daunting and what you can do now to ensure Biden is re-elected. Tune in!

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The second half of the Global Stocktake panel chaired by David Sandalow is here. Laurence Tubiana, Sue Biniaz, Paul Ekins, Jody Freeman, Ian Parry, Richard Newell, Mandy Rambharos, Patrick Chandler, and David Simpson join to discuss the biggest successes and failures since the Paris Climate agreement, what the priorities for combatting climate change should be, and more.

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As the temporary truce between Israel and Hamas nears its end, we’re left to wonder what a more permanent peace looks like. Rosa Brooks, Kori Schake, and Ed Luce join David Rothkopf to examine the possibility of peace and to break down the Biden Administration’s role in the conflict and whether the public perception of the war as a US/Israel joint venture is fair.

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The latest panel from the Road to COP 28 is here, featuring an incredible panel of guests chaired by David Sandalow. Laurence Tubiana, Sue Biniaz, Paul Ekins, Jody Freeman, Ian Parry, Richard Newell, Mandy Rambharos, and more join for a discussion on the global stocktake and its implications. Additionally, Allison Agsten sits down with the UAE Chief Climate Negotiator for COP27 and COP28, Hana AlHashimi, to get her perspective on the upcoming summit. With COP 28 beginning this week, tune in for this critical and timely episode.

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Israeli officials have predicted two more months of fighting. With such a lengthy campaign ahead, is the IDF pursuing the best strategy? Former deputy director of the CIA Counterterrorism Center Darrell Blocker joins Marc Polymeropoulos and David Rothkopf to assess Israel’s approach so far and what could be on the horizon for the region.

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Original Air Date: November 2, 2023

The latest episode in the Road to COP 28 series brings the second half of our latest panel, chaired by Allison Agsten. Allison is once again joined by Stephan Crawford, Stanley Chan (Chen Qiufan), Anne de Carbuccia, Michael Gerrard, Ana Teresa Fernandez, Benjamin Von Wong, and Gernot Wagner. Join as the panel shares ways everyone can be an activist and why it's not too late to make a difference.


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Original Air Date: October 26, 2023

The newest entry in the Road to COP 28 series brings an all-new panel of experts, chaired by Allison Agsten, Director of USC Annenberg’s Center for Climate Journalism and Communication and Curator at the Wrigley Institute for Environment and Sustainability. Allison is joined by Stephan Crawford, Stanley Chan (Chen Qiufan), Anne de Carbuccia, Michael Gerrard, Ana Teresa Fernandez, Benjamin Von Wong, and Gernot Wagner. Don’t miss their conversation about the role that artists and activists play in the fight against climate change and the ways everyone can do their part to create a more green future.


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Original Airdate: November 19, 2018

It's Thanksgiving weekend in the USA. It's a warm, friendly, family holiday provided that a.) your family does not discuss politics, b.) your unhinged uncle does not drink too much and c.) the indoor deep-fryer does not burn the whole house down. Maybe you'll go to a class reunion. Those are always...terrible. Or, alternatively, maybe you'll do what you did on prom night...stay home alone. Except this time you'll have Rosa Brooks, Emily Brandwin and Maggie Feldman-Piltch to join you and they'll be talking about what's right with the world and what they're thankful for. They will, that is, just as soon as they get their own awful high school experiences off their chests. Join us!

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Original Air Date: November 19, 2018

Who needs relatives? Join your Deep State family for a cheerful holiday discussion of the Turkeys of the Year, the losers, jerks, criminals, and large orange embarrassments that made the past year as unappetizing as an under-cooked Butterball. Our own Rosa Brooks, former undercover CIA operative and improv comedian Emily Brandwin and Maggie Feldman-Piltch of NatSecGirlSquad offer their views and...we not-so-subtly tease several new podcasts soon to be released by Deep State Radio. Tune in! 

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Published 2023-11-22

Naomi Oreskes: The Big Myth

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“The freer the market, the freer the people” is one of corporate America’s favorite lines. Yet according to Naomi Oreskes and Erik Conway’s book, “The Big Myth,” the truth is far more complicated. Naomi joins David Rothkopf to explain how the free market narrative has permeated American politics and set us on a disastrous path towards climate change and more. Don’t miss it.

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The newest episode in the Road to COP 28 series brings the second of two parts of our latest panel, chaired by Allison Agsten. Allison is joined by an incredible panel of guests, including Kevin J. Patel, Matt Simon, Dr. Michael Mann, Rosanna Xia, Anna Jane Joyner, Kate Folb, Emelie O’Brien, Leila Conners, Amy Todd Middleton, Joshua Goldstein, and Olivia Ahnemann. Join our panelists as they share the importance of engaging youth in the fight against climate change and more.

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What makes leaders like Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin tick? Dr. Ken Dekleva joins Marc Polymeropoulos and David Rothkopf to share his answer. Dr. Dekleva shares his experience helping profile world leaders for the US government, to include how different US presidents utilized these leadership profiles in high stakes summits and negotiations. Dr. Dekleva also discusses the critical role played by Regional Medical Officers overseas.

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Original Air Date: January 21, 2023

Marissa’s guest on the podcast is investigative journalist Marisa Kabas, who has recently dedicated herself to learning everything there is to know (and wonder at) about George Anthony DeVolder Santos Schwarzenegger, or whatever name he is going by today. Not surprisingly, the conversation turns to a discussion of shamelessness: the good kind and the bad kind, and why this is the year to embrace positive shamelessness. Marissa also works on a recipe for very gooey chocolate chip cookies.

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Original Air Date: October 21, 2021

As the Biden Administration shifts the focus of U.S. foreign policy to emerging issues and how America can lead in the century ahead, certain megapowers loom as complex threats. One is China. Another is Big Tech and how, if at all, its destabilizing and dangerous tendencies can be managed. Ed Luce of the Financial Times and Kori Schake of the American Enterprise Institute discuss. And then we move on to an evaluation of Biden Administration foreign policy so far, the impact of Secretary Blinken's efforts to return diplomacy to centrality in our international relations and what can be done in the next couple years to do better. Join us.  

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Between AI, nuclear weapons, and conflicts around the world, there’s more than enough to be worried about. Fortunately, we have people like Assistant Secretary Mallory Stewart keeping their eyes on the biggest threats to the US. Assistant Secretary Stewart joins Jon Wolfsthal and David to discuss what the administration has been doing to address nuclear weapons and more.

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Norm and Kavita are breaking the rules this week to talk about congressional fight club. With threats of violence by multiple GOP members, its clear that tensions are high as Republicans struggle to govern. With the government shutdown pushed to next year, join us as we break down the political field heading into 2024.

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Published 2023-11-16

Biden’s Economic Miracle

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The economy's recovery under President Biden has been nothing short of a miracle. So what is the secret to his administration's success? Rana Foroohar joins David Rothkopf to break down why Bidenomics has been such a triumph and why rejection of the economic orthodoxy was long overdue.

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The new episode in the Road to COP 28 series brings the first of two parts of our latest panel, chaired by Allison Agsten. Allison is joined by an incredible panel of guests, including Dr. Jennifer Francis, Matt Simon, Dr. Michael Mann, Rob Marciano, Rosanna Xia, Anna Jane Joyner, Kate Folb, Alexis Rockman, Laila Conners, Rebecca Tickell, Eliza Barclay, David Orr, and more! Tune in for their conversation on the critical importance of storytelling in climate activism and the challenges of outreach. 

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Published 2023-11-15

Finding a Path Forward in Israel and Gaza

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Despite calls for a ceasefire, there is no end in sight for the conflict in Gaza. With an incalculable human cost, is there another way forward? Aaron David Miller and Kori Schake join Rosa Brooks to consider Israel’s alternative paths and what role the Biden administration can and should play in managing the crisis.

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While men have historically dominated the intelligence community, women have gained a significant presence in top organizations in recent years. Despite this, scandals and lack of parity in top positions have made progress uneven. Former CIA intelligence officer Christina Hillsberg joins Marc Polymeropoulos and David Rothkopf to share her expertise on women in espionage, intelligence spycraft, and more.

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Published 2023-11-12

From the Silo: It's the Economy, Stupid!

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Original Air Date: July 29, 2022

On this week's episode, we talk about the economy and why inflation is up but unemployment is down as well as the deal around the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022. We ground all of our analysis in the words of Jerome Powell and Joe Manchin.

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Original Air Date: Oct 3, 2023

Dr. Michael Mann’s new book, Our Fragile Moment: How Lessons from Earth's Past Can Help Us Survive the Climate Crisis, serves as both a warning and a call to action to combat the unfolding climate crisis. Dr. Mann joins David to discuss how we got to this point, why action has been so slow, and what we can do to reverse course before it’s too late.

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While nuclear weapons have been dominating headlines, there is reason to be just as concerned about bioweapons. China, Russia, and Iran likely have biological weapons programs, but the age of AI could make the threat of these weapons even greater from both state and non-state actors. Asha George joins Jon Wolfsthal to break down these issues and more.

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Democrats scored major victories across the country on Monday. From Ohio enshrining abortion to Democrats gaining control of Virginia’s House and Senate, things are looking good moving into 2024. So why are pollsters still so negative? Simon Rosenberg and Tom Bonier join David Rothkopf to explain why pollsters are getting it so wrong, and why we should be optimistic heading into the next election.

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All eyes are on Israel and Gaza as the conflict threatens to spread throughout the region. But how have the key regional actors responded? Michael Weiss is joined by Faysal Itani, the Director of the New Lines Institute for Strategy and Policy, to dissect what the key players in the Middle East have been doing and what the future could hold for the region.

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While global desire to address climate change continues to rise, we need to be wary of “greenwashing” policies that distract from real, substantive change. Stanford’s Mark Jacobson joins David on this special episode to differentiate the good policies from the bad, and outline the pitfalls that the upcoming COP 28 conference must avoid.

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Recent polls on a Biden and Trump showdown in 2024 aren’t great for the incumbent president. But with just under a year to go before the election, how worried should we really be? David Rothkopf joins Norm to explain how Biden can bounce back and why the lunacy of the Republican Party will be its own undoing.

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