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Every week on the Ali on the Run Show, I talk with inspiring people who lead interesting lives on the run and beyond. And while running is what brings us all together, on these episodes, we're digging a little deeper. These conversations are about the decisions people have made to get where they are today, and how getting sweaty has factored in. Whether you're on the run toward something great or away from something that's holding you back, join me on this never-ending adventure, and let's all pick up the pace together.
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Published 2022-04-05

504. Jacky Hunt-Broersma, Running 100 Marathons in 100 Days

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"I'm tired. But I'm feeling pretty good. I've got a job to do and I need to do it and that's kind of it. I'm on a mission. I just need to get it done."

Jacky Hunt-Broersma is on a quest to run 100 marathons in 100 days. That's 26.2 miles every single day for 100 days straight, while raising money for Amputee Blade Runners. We recorded this episode together at 8 AM on Day 75. Jacky — a running coach and ultramarathoner whose next goal is the Moab 240 Endurance Run — had just gotten her two kids off to school, and was getting ready for marathon number 75. In this conversation, we get to know the Jacky today, who is more than 3/4 of the way through her record-setting challenge. And we get to know the 26-year-old Jacky from 2001, who woke up one day with a golf ball-sized mass on her leg. She was diagnosed with Ewing sarcoma, a rare cancer, and had her leg amputated just weeks after the diagnosis. It wasn't until 15 years later that Jacky started running, and she says her only regret is that she didn't start sooner. In this conversation, Jacky talks about the highest (running with her daughter!) and lowest (Day 35) points of this 100-marathon challenge, about dealing with mom guilt along the way, and about her plans for marathon #92, which she'll run in the para division of the Boston Marathon.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How Jacky was feeling at 8 AM on Day 75, and her plan for the day (5:20)
  • How Jacky got through an especially tough run recently (9:50)
  • Jacky's running must-haves (16:00)
  • How Jacky is feeling emotionally (17:40)
  • All about the recovery process during this adventure (19:40)
  • How Jacky is involving her children and family in this process (23:00)
  • Jacky's cancer story, and how she found running (25:50)
  • Learning to run with a running blade (39:20)
  • All about Jacky's 100 marathons in 100 days challenge (44:00)
  • Jacky's plans for the Boston Marathon, and for marathon #100 (51:00)
  • Jacky's most memorable marathons so far — and the day that "nearly broke her" (53:15)

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Published 2022-04-01

503. Dominique Scott Efurd, Two-Time Olympian & Atlanta Women's 5K Champion

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"I said, 'You definitely have this win. Don't be so scared anymore.'"

Last weekend, two-time Olympian Dominique Scott Efurd won the first-ever elite division at the Atlanta Women's 5K. And while it may have been her first time breaking the tape this year, Dom's 2022 is off to a solid start. In January, she finished third at the Houston Half Marathon. Then, she finished second at The TEN. And this weekend, she'll race the Cooper River Bridge Run. In this conversation — Dom's first time back on the show since late 2020 — Dom talks about her recent races, about the challenging start to 2021, which included a tibial stress reaction and a case of Covid, and about her experience representing Team South Africa at the Tokyo Olympics last summer. Dom is sponsored by adidas, and she lives in Boulder, CO, where she trains with Team Boss.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How it felt to break the tape at the Atlanta Women's 5K (5:30)
  • On being the race starter at the Atlanta Women's 5K (13:45)
  • All about that 5K in Atlanta (16:00)
  • How Dom is feeling heading into the Cooper River Bridge Run 10K (23:15)
  • On finishing second at The TEN (24:30)
  • Dom talks about the tough times she's faced over the past two years (40:00)
  • What Dom remembers most from the Tokyo Olympics, and recapping the Houston Half Marathon (47:00)
  • Dom's marathon dreams (1:04:40)
  • All about the social media side of the sport (1:08:40)

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Published 2022-03-31

502. Venus Morris Griffin, As Seen on Humans of New York

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"I've just been struggling to survive. To figure out how to survive. I want people to see me and say, 'OK, let's not look at what we think people are.' Because everybody has their own struggles. Life is tough!"

Earlier this month, I found myself glued to my phone, rabidly refreshing the Humans of New York Instagram account, waiting for updates in the 13-part story about a woman in Augusta, GA. The woman was Venus Morris Griffin. Today, she's a hugely successful realtor and mom of seven. But the road to becoming one of Meybohm Real Estate's leading agents (Venus has closed more than $500 million in sales she she started with the agency) has been anything but easy. In fact, it still isn't easy, Venus says.

In this conversation, Venus talks about her difficult childhood, about falling in love with a man at USC, and about having six children together. She talks about being home with the kids — the youngest was just one year old, and the oldest was 15 — while her husband was away on a work trip, and getting a call in the middle of the night from a sex worker. A call that changed everything. Not only was Venus's husband, Tripp, sleeping with sex workers, Venus also learned that there was sexual abuse within the home. Today, Tripp is serving a 45-year sentence for child molestation. Here, Venus talks about how she kept moving forward, how she showed up for her children and for herself, and why she started running to get through it all. Plus, she talks about what it was like having her story shared widely through Humans of New York, and both the amazing (a book! a movie!) and less-amazing (losing clients and sales) responses.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How Venus is celebrating her 50th birthday (5:20)
  • All about being featured on Humans of New York (8:00)
  • On vulnerability, and how Venus started running (15:15)
  • What Venus's childhood was like (21:20)
  • Meeting Tripp (23:30)
  • The role of faith in Venus's life (31:40)
  • The scary moments in Venus and Tripp's marriage, and why Venus decided to get her real estate license in 2008 (33:50)
  • The middle-of-the-night phone call that changed everything (43:00)
  • What life looked like after Tripp went to prison (52:30)
  • How Venus navigated motherhood (1:02:40)

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Published 2022-03-29

501. Friendship Fest with Dinée Dorame & Mario Fraioli

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"I could tell he wasn't mentoring me because he wanted it to be this public thing that made him look good. I wasn't his charity case."

Dinée Dorame had a dream: to launch a podcast that would explore the intersection between running, land, community and culture. So she applied for the first-ever Tracksmith Fellowship program — and she won. Dinée was one of the first recipients of a Tracksmith Fellowship grant, which gave her the support she needed to bring the Grounded podcast into existence. She was also paired with a mentor: Mario Fraioli, host of The Morning Shakeout podcast and creator of The Morning Shakeout newsletter. Dinée and Mario started as total strangers, formed a fast mentor-mentee relationship, and now, one year later, are close friends with a "big brother, little sister" bond. In this conversation, they talk about their first phone call, the first time they met in real life, and how their differences have made their relationship stronger.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How Dinée and Mario became paired together as mentor-mentee through the Tracksmith Fellowship (5:20)
  • All about Dinée and Mario's first phone call (15:15)
  • How a phone call became a friendship (26:10)
  • On podcast rejection! (37:00)
  • Dinée and Mario share the moments when they felt especially proud of each other (44:00)
  • On finally getting to meet in real life (48:00)
  • All about Common Ground (55:00)

For more, check out:

Dinée Dorame on Episode 402 of the Ali on the Run Show

Dinée Dorame on Episode 239 of the Ali on the Run Show

Mario Fraioli on Episode 266 of the Ali on the Run Show

Lauren Fleshman on The Morning Shakeout

Dinée Dorame on The Morning Shakeout

Billy Mills on the Grounded podcast

Ali Feller on The Morning Shakeout

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Published 2022-03-25

500. Beyond the Run with Elle Purrier St. Pierre

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"It was pretty tough, I'm not gonna lie. I walked off the track pretty mad. I didn't want to talk to any cameras, so I walked past the camera people because I knew they were just going to drill me with a bunch of questions that I didn't want to talk about. And I hadn't even had time to digest it myself. So I was about to say something I probably shouldn't have on camera. So I said, 'I'm making this boundary for myself,' and I kept walking."

Elle Purrier St. Pierre is one of the fastest women in the country. The professional New Balance athlete just capped off her indoor season by earning a silver medal in the 3K at World Indoor Championships in Serbia. In 2020, she broke the American record in the indoor mile. Then, last summer, she won the 1500m event at the U.S. Olympic Track & Field Team Trials (and set a Trials record for that event), solidifying her spot on Team USA and achieving a lifelong dream of becoming an Olympian. Elle — widely known as a small-town farm girl from Vermont — is living the professional runner dream, right? On this episode, Elle talks about the tough times. She talks about getting shoved off the track just seconds into that 1500 final at the Trials, and about how she rallied to win the race. She talks about handling disappointment on the track, like when she finished third in the 1500 at USAs a few weeks ago, a race she was heavily favored to win. And she talks about that — about being "heavily favored," and what that pressure feels like. Plus, reflections on competing in Tokyo, dealing with the post-Olympics blues, and pre-race bad moods. Welcome to Episode 500 of the Ali on the Run Show!

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • All about Elle's run today, and what it's like being a local celebrity in Vermont (3:50)
  • Where Elle's keeping her silver medal, and what her goals were for the 3K at World Indoor Championships (8:45)
  • How Elle stays tough when the racing gets hard, and what she's like before the race starts (11:20)
  • On getting shoved off the track at last summer's Olympic Track & Field Trials 1500m final (16:00)
  • Dealing with high stakes (22:00)
  • How Elle navigated an injury heading into the Olympics (29:30)
  • What Elle remembers most from the Tokyo Olympics (35:00)
  • On dealing with the post-Olympics blues (40:30)
  • What farm life is like for Elle (42:45)
  • How Elle prepares and re-sets for a new racing season, and what it's like going into each race as "the favorite" (45:15)
  • On dealing with disappointment after finishing third at USA Indoors and missing out on Team USA for that distance — and coming back to win the 3K (49:00)
  • On being asked "What's next?" all the time (59:30)
  • The most fun Elle has ever had on the run (1:02:15)

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Elle Purrier on Episode 210 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Published 2022-03-24

499. Laura Skladzinski, Theater Kid Turned 100-Time Marathoner

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"I got off the plane, looked out at the mountains, and just felt this sense of relaxation. Like this is where I'm supposed to be, this is where life is good. And it made no sense!"

Laura Skladzinski was a dancer and theater kid growing up. She, like many of us, hated having to run the mile in gym class. Then, at 24 years old, Laura became the youngest person at the time to complete a marathon in all 50 states, and she has gone on to run more than 100 marathons and a few ultramarathons. So, what changed? In this wide-ranging conversation, Laura talks about how she became a runner, and what her approach to running is like. She talks her decision to move from New York City to Colorado, and about becoming a town trustee in her new hometown of Superior, CO. She also talks about how difficult that role has been over the past few months, after fires tore through the town at the end of 2021. She shares what that day was like as both a homeowner in Superior and as an elected official, and about why she has decided to prioritize mental health needs both for herself and for her community in the wake of those fires. Laura works as a management consultant, and when she's not working or on the run, she's a ski instructor at Beaver Creek, a Meals on Wheels volunteer and driver, and a camp counselor at Experience Camps for Grieving Children.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • On being a town trustee in Superior, CO — and receiving more votes than any candidate in history! (6:00)
  • What brought Laura to Colorado (8:30)
  • What Young Laura was like (13:40)
  • How Laura found and fell in love with running (17:15)
  • Why Laura decided to try and run a marathon in every state (25:30)
  • How Laura felt when she completed the 50 states challenge (31:00)
  • Laura talks about being featured in a national JetBlue campaign (34:15)
  • How Laura got so fast, and what her approach to running is like (36:45)
  • How Laura became a ski instructor at Beaver Creek (44:30)
  • On taking a break, taking a leave of absence from work, and prioritizing mental health (48:00)
  • What it was like being in Superior, CO, during the fires a few months ago (52:00)
  • Why Laura chose to prioritize community-wide mental health needs after the fires (57:45)
  • On being a volunteer counselor at Experience Camps for Grieving Children (1:05:30)

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Published 2022-03-22

498. Friendship Fest with Cara Enright Welsh & Cameron Erhardt

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"It's just those people when you instantly connect, and they're one of your people. She was one of those people. And it's so hard to find those people as adults, as we all know. She was that easy connection, easy talking to. Everything just felt like it was meant to be and meant to happen."

Cara Enright Welsh and Cameron Erhardt are two of the nicest people on the planet — so it's no surprise this episode is warm fuzzy central. Cara and Cam met when they were both part of Nike's Project Moonshot marathon training program, and they say they became best friends the very first day they met. They immediately bonded over their mutual love for Taylor Swift and NYC "Emo Nights" ("Stay sad!"), their respective roles as the oldest of four siblings, and a shared birthday (November 5, 1990). In this conversation, Cara (a former competitive jump roper) and Cam (a former NCAA Division-1 runner) recall the day they met, and talk about the challenge of making friends and finding running buddies as an adult. Plus, Cam's stories of overcoming tough times mid-marathon and how he learned to keep moving forward, and updates from Cara on her Boston Marathon training and her relocation plans.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How Cam and Cara met (4:45)
  • The role running played early in Cara and Cam's friendship (13:20)
  • On being "twins" — and some astrology talk (24:20)
  • Cam and Cara's biggest differences, and how they're navigating a long-distance friendship (30:15)
  • What running looks like for Cam and Cara right now (38:55)
  • How to make running friends as an adult (46:00)
  • The moments when Cara and Cam have felt especially proud of each other (53:50)

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Cara Enright on Episode 376 of the Ali on the Run Show

George Waldron Salon

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Published 2022-03-21

497. LIVE from the NYC Half with Becs Gentry & Nev Schulman

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"I've made it here. I'm good with that. I'm going to start this race as me. However I finish, I'm still me."

I love a live show! The day before the United Airlines NYC Half (thanks to New Balance, New York Road Runners, and the 1 Hotel Central Park South), I had the pleasure of hosting a live recording of the Ali on the Run Show with returning podcast guests Becs Gentry and Nev Schulman. (Shout-out to the live audience: You were a great crowd, and you were so much fun! Thank you for being there.) This banter-filled conversation covered everything from Becs and Nev's approaches to running and dealing with dark moments on the run, to peeing in the ocean and mastering the art of "The McDash." You'll laugh, you'll gasp (the collective sound in the room when Nev asserted that treadmill running "isn't real running," oh my...), and I hope you'll enjoy. (Oh, and by the way: The fastest marathon ever on a treadmill was run by former Ali on the Run Show guest CJ Albertson! He covered 26.2 miles on a treadmill in 2:09:58.)

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Published 2022-03-18

496. Ask Ali with Guest Host Julia Berteletti

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"Even though I've been doing this for a while, and I've been working for myself for a long time, I still have a hard time making my own rules."

Julia Berteletti is a runner, a mom, and a dear friend — and today, she's a podcast host! On this edition of Ask Ali, returning Ali on the Run Show guest Julia is here to do all the question asking, reading your questions from Instagram. We cover everything from favorite foods and "stranded on a desert island" scenarios, to podcasting, motherhood, running, and more.

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Julia Berteletti on Episode 458 of the Ali on the Run Show

Julia Berteletti on Episode 157 of the Ali on the Run Show

Kyle Merber & Chris Chavez on Episode 489 of the Ali on the Run Show

Tracksmith Allston Long Shorts

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Published 2022-03-17

495. Betty Lindberg, 97-Year-Old World Record Holder

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"That Saturday when I set the record and I was in the tent waiting for them to start the awards ceremony, dozens of people came up to talk to me, and they were from all over the United States! I couldn't imagine why. I'm just doing what I like to do!"

Betty Lindberg is a local legend in her hometown of Atlanta, GA. She started running at 63 years old, and now, at 97, she's breaking world records. Last month, Betty ran the USATF Master's 5K Championships in Atlanta, and set a new world record for the 95–99 age group. (She finished in 55:48, smashing the previous record by more than 30 minutes.) Breaking that record was no accident: Betty is fiercely competitive (mostly with herself), and she takes her training seriously. (She works out six days a week. On the seventh day, she rests and enjoys her weekly hair appointment.) In this conversation, Betty shares her running story, talks about where her competitive drive comes from, and talks about her mid-race mimosa stops at the Peachtree Road Race every year. She's a legend for a reason!

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • On being a local legend (5:20)
  • Betty's competitive nature, and what it was like when she broke her first world record at age 91 (7:45)
  • What Betty's training and workouts are like (9:30)
  • All about the day Betty broke the 5K record (12:30)
  • How Betty celebrated her record (17:30)
  • How Betty started running — at age 63! (19:15)
  • On growing up in the 1930s: "You didn't take part in any sports!" (23:15)
  • Why Betty wanted to run a half marathon (26:00)
  • Why Betty loves virtual racing (29:00)
  • The hip replacement that got Betty running again (37:00)
  • All about Betty's workouts and favorite classes at the gym (40:00)
  • Betty's advice for how to keep running into our late nineties (44:00)
  • What Betty is proudest of, and her advice for loving running (49:00)

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Published 2022-03-15

494. Friendship Fest with Jenny Grimshaw & Grace Keller

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"I don't think I would've done it if Grace hadn't. I remember saying two things: One, 'The data says you can do it.' And two, thinking about Grace."

Jenny Grimshaw and Grace Keller have only been friends for a few years, but in that time, they've helped each other dream bigger and chase down exciting running goals. Their first endeavor together: to qualify for the 2020 Olympic Marathon Trials. On this episode, Jenny and Grace talk about meeting when they were both living, working, and running in New York City, and share how they're now making a long-distance friendship work. (Jenny lives in San Francisco with her husband and their new baby, Tate, and she works for Glossier. Grace and her husband, a professional baseball player, live in Charlottesville, VA, where she works in the finance and investment banking industry.) Their friendship is a special one that's rooted in their unwavering support and admiration for one another. (Be prepared to shed a tear or two when Grace talks about what she wrote in her journal after Jenny raced that California International Marathon.)

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How Grace and Jenny met (5:25)
  • How Grace and Jenny became friends (9:45)
  • On training to qualify for the Olympic Marathon Trials (14:30)
  • Reflecting on Grace's Philadelphia Marathon in 2019, when she qualified for the Olympic Trials (22:00)
  • Looking back on Jenny's CIM race in 2019, when she qualified for the Olympic Trials (31:45)
  • What it was like getting to run the Olympic Marathon Trials together (35:15)
  • How Jenny and Grace got so close (48:15)
  • Why Jenny and Grace's recent visit in San Francisco was so powerful and important (51:30)
  • What's next on the run for Jenny and Grace (58:00)
  • Jenny and Grace's proudest moments in their friendship (1:02:20)

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Jenny Donnelly on Episode 215 of the Ali on the Run Show

Jenny & Judi Donnelly on Episode 193 of the Ali on the Run Show

Take the Bridge

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Published 2022-03-14

493. Molly Huddle & Sara Slattery, "How She Did It" Co-Authors

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"These women are stone-cold killers on the track, so you're just like, 'I can't believe you feel that way!' But it's really helpful for anyone who's dealing with that to know, 'Hey, these women had to overcome that.' It was hurting their performance for a while and they had to figure out a way."

Molly Huddle and Sara Slattery are incredible runners, incredible women, wonderful role models, and now, they can officially say they are published authors. Today, professional runner Molly Huddle and former pro Sara Slattery are here to talk all about their new book, How She Did It. Consider this book the ultimate roadmap for female distance runners. It includes advice from experts, plus stories, interviews, and profiles from 50 legendary women in the sport (many of whom you know, love, and have heard right here on the Ali on the Run Show). In this conversation, Molly and Sara talk about the inspiration for the book, how it actually came to be, and how they tackled the difficult task of which stories to include in the book. Plus, they talk about their friendship, Sara talks about being the head men's and women's cross-country coach at Grand Canyon University (she coaches one of Sara and Ryan Hall's daughters!), and Molly offers a pregnancy update (she's due at the end of April!).

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How Molly and Sara met (4:55)
  • Where the idea for "How She Did It" came from (8:00)
  • What adult runners can take from this book (12:30)
  • The process of getting a book published (14:50)
  • How Sara and Molly decided who to include in the book (18:50)
  • How do you know when you've made it? (23:40)
  • The stories Molly and Sara knew needed to be in the book (27:20)
  • The biggest surprises from the book (36:20)
  • What it's like coaching Sara and Ryan Hall's daughter (44:00)
  • The personal reflections inspired by the book (46:45)
  • On taking the mental side of training seriously (50:00)
  • The women Molly and Sara are excited about right now (55:45)
  • How do we not feel discouraged by doping in the sport? (58:30)
  • Molly and Sara's advice for longevity — and unlimited PRs — in the sport (1:02:40)
  • Molly offers a pregnancy update (1:07:20)

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How She Did It

Molly Huddle on Episode 51 of the Ali on the Run Show

Molly Huddle on Episode 66 of the Ali on the Run Show

Molly Huddle on Episode 259 of the Ali on the Run Show

Molly Huddle on Episode 391 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Published 2022-03-11

492. Beyond the Run with Stephanie Roth Goldberg, LCSW, CEDS

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"I found myself when I found running."

Stephanie Roth Goldberg is a psychotherapist, licensed clinical social worker, and certified eating disorder specialist in New York City. And when she offers a listening ear and advice for her clients, she's able to do that as both a trained professional and as someone who personally has been through it. In this conversation, Stephanie shares her experiences with substance abuse and addiction and disordered eating as a teen and young adult. She talks about going to rehab for the first time at 14 years old, and about how she ultimately found recovery. And she talks about finding running — and finding herself in the process. In addition to sharing her story on this episode, Stephanie — who is an an Ironman and mom of two living in Montclair, NJ — offers advice about developing a healthy relationship with exercise, dealing with anxiety, and building a mental wellness toolbox (or Caboodle).

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • What Stephanie was like as a teenager, and her experiences with substance abuse and an eating disorder (6:00)
  • How Stephanie found running (24:00)
  • How Stephanie's relationship with running has evolved, and whether that relationship has always been healthy (31:30)
  • How do you know if your relationship with running is healthy? (35:45)
  • On triggers (40:30)
  • Intuitive eating 101 (41:45)
  • How Stephanie became an Ironman (44:10)
  • What running looks like for Stephanie right now (50:30)
  • How to deal when "something's gotta give" (55:00)
  • Stephanie's favorite form of self-care (1:01:30)

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Rachel Wyman on Episode 281 of the Ali on the Run Show

Rachel Wyman on Episode 166 of the Ali on the Run Show

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491. Olivia Baker, Professional 800m Runner for Atlanta Track Club Elite

67 min
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"I was a complete mess. I was so emotional about it, so excited, so just…relieved to have come in, having a lot of momentum, knowing this was a possibility, and then completing a mission."

Olivia Baker is on fire. The professional runner for Atlanta Track Club Elite just competed at the USATF Indoor Track & Field Championships where she finished second in the 800m, officially making her first senior world championship team. She'll head to Serbia later this month to represent Team USA at Indoor World Championships. In this conversation, Olivia reflects on the road to Team USA, including dealing with disappointment after last summer's U.S. Olympic Track & Field Team Trials, weighing the decision of whether or not to attend medical school, and ultimately joining Atlanta Track Club Elite instead. She gushes about her teammates, talks about the tough times and low moments, and shares her confidence journey. Plus, commentating, book clubs, chocolate milkshakes, and more.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How it feels to be representing Team USA, and what the start line felt like at USATF Indoor Track & Field Championships (4:50)
  • On knowing when it's time to kick (6:45)
  • That finish line feeling (10:15)
  • Did this feel like the "more" Olivia wanted two years ago? (14:15)
  • Olivia's relationship with Ajeé Wilson (14:50)
  • What Olivia's training will look like between now and World Championships in Serbia, and what the travel there is expected to be like (18:45)
  • The impact Olivia's coaches and teammates have had on her (25:30)
  • What Young Olivia was like, learning to get over being "obsessively afraid of racing," and how she's learned to deal with disappointment (35:45)
  • Olivia's decision not to attend medical school last year (40:45)
  • Why Olivia joined Atlanta Track Club Elite (45:30)
  • On confidence, commentating, and book clubs (51:00)

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Allie Wilson on Episode 469 of the Ali on the Run Show

"Dear Younger Me," by Olivia Baker for MileSplit

A Beautiful Work in Progress by Mirna Valerio

Grit by Angela Duckworth

Let's Get Physical by Danielle Friedman

Running For My Life by Lopez Lomong

The Power by Naomi Alderman

Tom Holland on Lip Sync Battle

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Published 2022-03-09

490. Celebrating International Women's Day with Sara Hall, Emily Sisson, & Emma Bates

69 min
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"We have all become the women we are today because of other women." —Emma Bates

It was a great privilege to get to host this virtual live show on International Women's Day with three UCAN-sponsored professional athletes: Sara Hall, Emily Sisson, and Emma Bates. All three of these women were fresh off three different races — the Tokyo Marathon for Sara, a win at the Gate River Run 15K for Emily, and The TEN on the track for Emma — so in addition to recapping their recent race experiences, we also talked about the power of women in sports. Sara, Emily, and Emma talk about the women who have pushed and inspired them in their respective careers, they talk about who they love racing against, and they talk about confidence on and off the roads.

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Sara Hall on Episode 459 of the Ali on the Run Show

Sara Hall on Episode 321 of the Ali on the Run Show

Sara Hall on Episode 300 of the Ali on the Run Show

Sara and Ryan Hall on Episode 144 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily Sisson & Shane Quinn on Episode 479 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily Sisson on Episode 394 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily Sisson on Episode 234 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily Sisson on Episode 169 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emma Bates on Episode 444 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Published 2022-03-08

489. Friendship Fest with Kyle Merber & Chris Chavez

65 min
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"We're track and field's biggest hype people, and we want to share the joy of the sport with as many people as possible."

You'll be hard-pressed to find anyone who loves track and field more than the dynamic duo ("the greatest bromance in track and field") of Chris Chavez and Kyle Merber. This week, we're turning our Friendship Fest attention to the guys. Chris is the founder of Citius Mag, host of the Citius Mag podcast, former Sports Illustrated journalist, director of the Magic Boost program, and one of the nicest, hardest-working people in the industry. Kyle is a former professional runner (a 3:52 miler! he won the Millrose Games mile as a high schooler!) who retired in 2020, and now works full-time for American Express while also managing The Lap Count newsletter and navigating life as a new dad. Chris and Kyle started as friends (you'll get that full story in this episode), and now work together as collaborators and track and field commentators. In this conversation, they share their enthusiasm for the sport, talk about what it's like when they run together (it's more fun for one of them than it is for the other), and share their big dreams for the future.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • Chris and Kyle recall their first meeting (7:00)
  • Why Kyle wanted Chris to help tell his retirement story (11:50)
  • How Chris and Kyle are working together right now (14:25)
  • Chris and Kyle, track and field commentators (22:45)
  • What to expect from Chris and Kyle this summer (33:15)
  • On running together (35:15)
  • What Chris and Kyle are excited about in running right now (37:40)
  • Chris and Kyle share the moments when they were especially proud of each other (44:00)

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Chris Chavez on Episode 262 of the Ali on the Run Show

Trials of Miles

The Real Maine documentary

Citius Mag podcast: Kyle Merber Exit Interview and The Importance of Sharing the Athlete Story

The Magic Boost program

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Published 2022-03-03

488. Camille Herron, U.S. 100-Mile Road Champion & World Record Holder

78 min
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"It could be two o'clock in the afternoon and the sun's beating down on us, and I'm just smiling. I'm gritting my teeth through the afternoon sun, and still believing I can push through it."

On February 18, renowned ultra runner Camille Herron made history — again. The queen of the ultra scene ran and won the USATF 100-Mile Road Championships in Henderson, NV, and not only won the race outright (the first male finisher was half an hour behind her), she broke her own 100-mile world record by 89 seconds, finishing in 12 hours 41 minutes and 11 seconds. That's a 7:36 per mile pace on an 85-lap course. On this episode, Camille (who turned 40 on Christmas) talks all about that race, including how she prepped for it, her goals going into the race, and how she has tweaked her training and lifestyle habits in order to "age like a fine wine," she says. Plus, how she got into running and ultras, and where her always-happy demeanor came from.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How Camille's feeling since running the USATF 100-Mile Road Championship (4:05)
  • What Young Camille was like, and how she found and fell in love with running (6:25)
  • Reflecting on the USATF 100-Mile Road Championship, and what Camille's goals were going into the race (14:00)
  • What Camille's training is like (18:25)
  • Why Camille started working with a registered dietitian (23:50)
  • The lifestyle choices Camille has made recently so she can perform at her best (32:45)
  • All about the 85-lap 100-Mile Road Championship course, and how Camille broke it down mentally (36:35)
  • How Camille was feeling at the start line (44:30)
  • The pressure of being Camille Herron (47:00)
  • How Camille felt during the first half of the race (49:25)
  • How Camille pushed through the "dark parts" of the race (55:00)
  • That finish line feeling (59:30)
  • How Camille celebrated (1:05:00)
  • Camille's advice for the ultra-curious (1:08:00)

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Camille Herron in the New York Times

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487. Friendship Fest with Emily Infeld & Aisha Praught Leer

75 min
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"When I met Aisha, I was like, 'Oh, we're gonna be friends forever.'"

Emily Infeld and Aisha Praught Leer are professional runners and Olympians, and despite never sharing a coach, team, or hometown, they have the type of friendship that transcends all of that. On this episode, Aisha and Emily talk about how they met, share their first impressions of each other, and talk about how they bonded long-distance in the early days of their professional careers. We get some big life updates: Emily officially announces who she's being coached by since leaving the Bowerman Track Club, and Aisha talks about how her return to running has been going since having surgery to repair her torn meniscus after last year's Tokyo Olympics. Plus, LOL-worthy stories about Emily behind the wheel, Aisha in the pool, and so much more.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • When and how Emily and Aisha met (6:00)
  • Emily and Aisha recall their first impressions of each other, and talk about how their friendship progressed (10:55)
  • The time Emily taught Aisha how to swim — kind of (18:00)
  • On running together and making a long-distance friendship work (19:40)
  • How Emily and Aisha are alike, and how they're different (26:00)
  • What Emily and Aisha talk about, and what they're each like when the other is racing (38:00)
  • What's new with Aisha (43:00)
  • What's new with Emily (52:10)
  • Emily and Aisha talk about moments when they've felt especially proud of each other (1:04:20)

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Emily Infeld on Episode 400 of the Ali on the Run Show

Aisha Praught Leer on Episode 462 of the Ali on the Run Show

Aisha Praught Leer on Episode 415 of the Ali on the Run Show

Aisha Praught & Will Leer on Episode 204 of the Ali on the Run Show

Aisha Praught Leer on Episode 197 of the Ali on the Run Show

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486. Beyond the Run with Jess Movold

80 min
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"I didn't prepare for it. I wasn't ready for it. It was very, very hard, and dark, and scary."

Welcome to the second episode in the new Beyond the Run series on the Ali on the Run Show. Twice a month, we're checking in with industry experts, professional runners, and everyday runners to talk about the intersection of running and mental wellness. (The first episode in this series with Dr. Ian Nurse and Emily Saul was a must-listen.) Today, running and strength coach Jess Movold returns to the show to talk about her pregnancy (she's currently 21 weeks along with her first baby, a boy!) and how she's coped with the physical and emotional changes in her life. It's an honest, vulnerable conversation about expectations vs. reality, dealing with dark days, and how life is changing on the run and beyond.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • Jess shares her experience running the Austin Half Marathon at 21 weeks pregnant (5:10)
  • Jess's relationship with her dad (11:40)
  • How Jess found out she was pregnant, and what it was like running the New York City Marathon a few weeks into her pregnancy (20:00)
  • The story of Kelly (31:00)
  • Expectations vs. reality (35:00)
  • How Jess is dealing with the tough days (46:15)
  • Body talk (50:00)
  • Why Jess says mental wellness "is everything" (1:05:30)
  • Jess offers runners a pre-race pep talk — and tries to convince us all to do 10 push-ups (1:08:30)

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Jess Movold on Episode 249 of the Ali on the Run Show

Jess Movold on Episode 147 of the Ali on the Run Show

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485. Nev Schulman, Host of MTV's Catfish & 2:58 Marathoner

86 min
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"My default is trusting and looking for the good. I want to believe that people are telling me the truth when I talk to them. I assume they are. I just generally find that I always give people the benefit of the doubt and assume they're honest and well intentioned. Obviously that's not true. But that sort of naïveté, if you will — which definitely led to me getting catfished — has strangely served me well. I'm so glad I got duped by that woman."

Nev Schulman is best known as the star of the 2010 award-winning documentary Catfish, and now as the host of the MTV show of the same name. (My mom knows — and adores — him as the runner-up from Season 29 of Dancing with the Stars.) But when he's not seeking scammers, he's likely on the run. Nev is a 2:58 marathoner who is currently training to run the New York City Half Marathon, where he hopes to run a personal best (sub-1:25). On this episode, Nev talks about what it was like growing up near the New York City Marathon finish line and getting to watch the race with his dad (also a 2:58 marathoner!) every year. He talks about becoming a dad himself (he and his wife have three children) and the unexpected effects of fame on both him and his family. He talks about hitting rock bottom at 19, and about how he learned not to let the hardest time in his life define him forever. And he talks about his empathetic and compassionate outlook on life, and how he's able to remain optimistic in this world, even after being catfished himself. Plus, all about his running story, including how he got started running at age 30, his favorite New York City Marathon memories, and more.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • Today in the life of Nev (4:30)
  • How Nev got into running (8:25)
  • Nev shares his love for dance and talks about what it was like being on Dancing with the Stars (17:15)
  • How Nev got his start in film production (24:50)
  • On fame (34:00)
  • How Nev keeps seeing the good in the world (43:00)
  • How Nev became a marathoner (49:50)
  • How Nev ran a 2:58 marathon (1:01:10)
  • Nev's new friendship with Alexi Pappas (1:07:25)
  • What's next for Nev on the run (1:11:10)

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Published 2022-02-22

484. Friendship Fest with Nell Rojas & Hiruni Wijayaratne

80 min
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"I would declare war on all of your enemies."

Welcome to Friendship Fest! Starting today and for the next seven weeks, we'll be hearing from runner friends about how they met, the role running plays in their friendship, and what big dreams and goals they share for the future. (Consider it Love on the Run, friendship-style!) We're kicking things off today with Boulder-based besties and professional marathon runners Nell Rojas and Hiruni Wijayaratne. Nell and Hiruni are both coached by Ric Rojas (Nell's dad), and we recorded this conversation while they were at training camp in Phoenix. They share the stories of how they met, why Hiruni joined Nell and Ric's training group, what it was like running the first 20 miles of CIM together in December, and how they handle it when one of them has a great race or workout and the other doesn't.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • What Nell and Hiruni are up to in Phoenix (6:00)
  • How Nell and Hiruni met (13:25)
  • What it was like when Nell and Hiruni started training together (22:30)
  • How Nell and Hiruni are similar, how they're different, and what they're like when they run together (26:00)
  • On running CIM together in December (40:00)
  • Nell reflects on her race at the Houston Half Marathon in January (48:25)
  • Nell talks about signing with adidas and what she did first after making it official (55:00)
  • Nell and Hiruni talk about when they've felt especially proud of each other (59:20)

For more, check out:

Nell Rojas on Episode 434 of the Ali on the Run Show

Nell Rojas on Episode 431 of the Ali on the Run Show

Nell Rojas on Episode 229 of the Ali on the Run Show

Hiruni Wijayaratne on Episode 466 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Published 2022-02-18

483. Ask Ali with Guest Host Molly Burke

79 min
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"I can only show up and do my best every time. And sometimes my best will be the best. And other times it won't. And that's fine. I think."

Welcome to the first Ask Ali episode of 2022! This time, instead of answering listener voicemails, I've enlisted Molly Burke to facilitate, and we're answering questions I received before and after the 2022 State of the Ali on the Run Show episode. It's a lot of behind-the-scenes-of-the-podcast stuff, a lot of questions about my goals for the show, and a good amount of self-reflection. Also a surprising number of bear references.

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Molly Burke on Episode 455 of the Ali on the Run Show

The 2022 State of the Ali on the Run Show

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Published 2022-02-17

482. Girl Talk with Molly Seidel & Anoush Arakelian

79 min
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"I've been working a lot on just being able to own who I am in this sport. Things have changed so drastically over the last two years, so it's coming to terms with that, of going from someone who was going to quit the sport to now someone who is one of the better-known names in the sport. That's been a weird transition for me, honestly."

Last week, Olympic bronze medalist Molly Seidel shared a dating-related post on Instagram. And to say it was the talk of the running world (and far beyond) would be an understatement. The post prompted all kinds of reactions (it currently has more than 2,100 comments — nearly double the response Molly received when she posted about running the New York City Marathon in November and breaking the American course record), and Molly returns to the show today to talk about all of it. We're joined by mutual friend, running coach, MyStryde Boston instructor, and 3:11 marathoner Anoush Arakelian, and we're talking about why that post struck a chord for so many. Plus, dating talk, confidence talk, mental health talk, and Boston Marathon talk. (If you're running the race this April, Coach Anoush has some advice for you!) What started as a fun and lighthearted Galentine's Day (and Super Bowl Sunday) girl talk session turned into so much more. Bottom line: You're a 10.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • An update on where Molly keeps her Olympic medal (3:45)
  • How Anoush met her boyfriend (7:20)
  • Boston Marathon goals and advice (9:20)
  • All about that now-viral Bumble post (13:30)
  • Jon Green and Molly Seidel are NOT dating! (23:00)
  • How Anoush and Molly met, and more dating talk (25:00)
  • Emotions and running (37:00)
  • What Molly is doing to improve her confidence (41:30)
  • On reading LetsRun, and why Molly does it (47:15)
  • Dream date talk, and listener dating disaster stories (56:50)

For more, check out:

Molly Seidel on Episode 420 of the Ali on the Run Show

Molly Seidel on Episode 341 of the Ali on the Run Show

Ian Nurse & Emily Saul on Episode 474 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Published 2022-02-14

481. Love on the Run with Josette Norris & Robby Andrews

97 min
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"Moral of the story is if a girl is gonna stick around you when you're sleeping until 12:30 in the afternoon, she probably likes you. Marry her."

Happy Valentine's Day! Welcome to the seventh and final episode in this year's Love on the Run Week series. Today, Jersey is in the house! Professional runners Josette Norris and Robby Andrews join the show to talk about the first time they met, the actual first time they met, and what they're each like on the sidelines when the other is racing (spoiler: loud!). Josette signed with Reebok in 2020, and is fresh off a breakout year where everyone was talking about "Josette Norris from New Jersey." And 2022 is already off to a solid start for her, with personal bests in the 1500m and the 3000m. Robby is in his tenth year competing as a professional athlete. He is sponsored by adidas, and is a 2016 Olympian: He competed in the 1500m in Rio. In this conversation, Josette and Robby (who got engaged in 2020) keep it fun talking about Robby meeting Barack and Michelle Obama and about how wedding planning is going. But they also talk about dealing with tough stuff, like Robby's experiences with Lyme disease, injuries, and surgeries, and Josette's experience being thrust into the running spotlight last year, and how she handled that. Robby offers an epic answer to the "What food would you make for Josette?" question in the Sprint, and they talk about what's on tap for 2022.

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Published 2022-02-13

480. Love on the Run with Sinclaire Johnson & Craig Nowak

64 min
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"I feel like I'm the best version of myself when he's around."

It's a big weekend for professional runners Sinclaire Johnson and Craig Nowak! Sinclaire and her Union Athletics Club teammates just broke the DMR (distance medley relay) world record in Spokane, WA (Sinclaire ran the 800m leg), and Craig was tasked with pacing 1500m and the 3K. But when they're not racing, pacing, or record-breaking, Sinclaire and Craig live and train together in Portland, OR. On this episode, they share the story of how they met (at Oklahoma State University, where Sinclaire was a freshman and Craig was a fifth year senior), what it was like dating long-distance after Craig graduated, and moving in together. Sinclaire, an NCAA 1500m champion who signed with Nike after graduating, talks about her decision to leave the Bowerman Track Club last year and to join Union Athletics Club, where she is coached by Pete Julian. She talks about having that conversation with former coaches Jerry Schumacher and Shalane Flanagan, and about why the Bowerman training style wasn't working for her. And Craig talks about becoming "the pacer guy," about his role as an official pacer on race day, and about how he navigates his own racing goals with his pacing duties.

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Sinclaire Johnson on Episode 373 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Published 2022-02-12

479. Love on the Run with Emily Sisson & Shane Quinn

69 min
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"It was that classic thing of, 'Want to go study together?' with no actual interest in studying whatsoever."

In the summer of 2011, the northeast was preparing to get hit by Hurricane Irene. At Providence College in Rhode Island, a group of students gathered in a dorm room to ride out the storm together. Two of those students, both at Providence to run competitively, were Emily Sisson and Shane Quinn. On this episode, professional runner Emily and mental health counselor Shane talk about why they were immediately attracted to each other (no "speed goggles" necessary), and how their relationship started (shout-out to the Providence Place mall!). They reflect on major moments in Emily's running career, like winning the 10K at the U.S. Olympic Team Track & Field Trials last summer, and talk about what it was like when Emily competed at the Olympics but Shane couldn't be there with her. Plus, exciting life updates: Emily and Shane (and their two dogs, Desmond and Tori) just moved to Flagstaff, AZ!

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Emily Sisson on Episode 394 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily Sisson on Episode 234 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily Sisson on Episode 169 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Published 2022-02-11

478. Love on the Run with Annie Frisbie & Dhru Patel

64 min
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"I thought he just wanted to be my friend!"

Love on the Run Week, day four! Today we're joined by Minnesota Distance Elite's Annie Frisbie and Dhru Patel. Annie is in the midst of a breakout year on the run. She made her marathon debut at the TCS New York City Marathon in November, where she ran a 2:26, finishing seventh overall and as the third American woman. That time was the fourth-fastest marathon debut by an American woman. Then, Annie signed her first professional sponsorship deal with Puma. Last month, she raced for the first time in her new kit and shoes at the Houston Half Marathon, running a 1:10, finishing 10th, and immediately saying she was "hungry for more." When she's not running professionally, Annie is a graphic designer. On this episode, we hear all about that day in New York City from Annie's perspective, and from Dhru's, who was there to support his girlfriend and teammate. Dhru explains why he's taking a running and training break right now, and about what his days look like without running and competing. Dhru is perhaps best known for making history in April 2019. He was a senior accounting major at North Central College and ran the 5,000 meters at a meet at Stanford. Dhru finished in 13:51, breaking a 42-year division-three record.

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Dakotah Lindwurm on Episode 476 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Published 2022-02-10

477. Love on the Run with Natalie & Jerold Mitchell

70 min
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"I was like, you know what, any woman who can hop over a fence in a dress — I need to know more about her!"

It's day three of Love on the Run Week, and Natalie and Jerold Mitchell are here! Natalie and Jerold have been married for more than two decades, and have three children together. They live in Los Angeles, where Jerold works in human resources, Natalie is a run coach (she's also a 12-time marathoner with a 3:05 personal best), and they co-host the Suite Run podcast. On this episode, they talk about the first time they met (Natalie was not interested), about bonding at a friend's wedding, and about dating long-distance for two years before Jerold moved to L.A. to be with Natalie. Jerold shares the story of surprising Natalie by running a marathon with the hopes of proposing at the finish line — and they laugh about how that story actually played out. (You will, too.) Plus, they share the highs and lows of working together, and Natalie offers an update on her goals to qualify for the Olympic Trials in the marathon.

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Natalie Mitchell on Episode 307 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Published 2022-02-09

476. Love on the Run with Nikki Hiltz & Emma Gee

76 min
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"Emma was my calm within the storm."

It's the second day of Love on the Run Week, and today we're joined by Nikki Hiltz and Emma Gee. Nikki is a professional runner specializing in the 1500 meters, and Emma was a standout collegiate runner at Brigham Young University and Temple University. Together, they're a total dream team, and they're incredible advocates for the LGBTQ+ community. (Run the Pride 5K!) Last year, Nikki came out as transgender nonbinary, telling the world, "The best way I can explain my gender is as fluid." Nikki's pronouns are they/them; Emma's pronouns are she/her. Nikki and Emma are wise and introspective, and they love self-discovery. On this episode, they talk about how they met (for the first time in a town called Hurricane!), why they fell in love, and what their relationship has been like. They talk about the good and bad sides of using their voices, and Nikki offers some sponsorship updates.

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Nikki Hiltz on Episode 294 of the Ali on the Run Show

Nikki Hiltz on Episode 170 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emma Gee on Episode 309 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Myers-Briggs test (I'm ESFJ — The Consul!)

The 5 Love Languages (I'm words of affirmation!)

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Published 2022-02-08

475. Love on the Run with Keira & Anthony D'Amato

79 min
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"Our love story is a pretty long, funny one."

Welcome to Love on the Run Week 2022! On tap: seven days, seven episodes, seven couples sharing their love stories. Prepare for lots of laughs, awwwwws, and warm fuzzies leading up to Valentine's Day. These guests — all at different stages in their relationships — will share how they met, the best parts of their relationships, the challenges, and the role running plays throughout it all.

First up: Keira and Anthony D'Amato! Keira is the newly-crowned American record holder in the marathon, and she'll be the first to tell you that she couldn't and wouldn't have run that 2:19:12 at the Houston Marathon without "Team D'Amato." And yeah, she's the fastest marathoner in the country right now, but Keira and Anthony are all about fun. Everything they do is in pursuit of a good time, from smashing records to organizing food bracket challenges with their kids, Tommy and Quin. On this episode, we'll hear all about what went down in Houston, Keira and Anthony's Vegas wedding, and the time Anthony secretly ate all the hidden Halloween candy.

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Keira D'Amato on Episode 414 of the Ali on the Run Show

Keira D'Amato on Episode 305 of the Ali on the Run Show

Calum Neff on Episode 470 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Published 2022-02-04

474. Beyond the Run with Dr. Ian Nurse & Emily Saul

90 min
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"Running is hard. Races are hard. So let's expect that."

Welcome to Beyond the Run — a new series on the Ali on the Run Show focusing on the mental side of running. Twice a month, we'll hear from professional athletes, everyday runners, and experts in their fields about the impact running can have on our emotional well-being.

We're kicking things off today with two experts.

Dr. Ian Nurse is a chiropractor, 25-time marathoner (with a 2:25 personal best), dad of two, and owner of Wellness in Motion Boston, where he treats the everyday and amateur runner, movie stars, musicians, and professional athletes including Molly Seidel, Elle Purrier St. Pierre, and Heather MacLean. (And he treats me!) Ian is all about taking a holistic approach to his treatment, which is why in addition to his staff of chiropractors, physical therapists, and massage therapists, he also brought Emily Saul onto the team.

You may remember Emily Saul — the collegiate rower turned marathoner and co-leader of November Project Boston — from Episode 59 of the Ali on the Run Show. She's a licensed mental health counselor with a Master's degree in sports psychology, and she's the founder of E Saul Movement.

In this unexpectedly personal conversation (two of us cried!), Ian talks about how runners can take care of their bodies this year, and Emily speaks to the mental side of it all. They talk about working with Molly Seidel the day before the 2021 New York City Marathon, and Ian talks about his struggles with aging on the run and how Emily has helped him work through that. Plus, dealing with injuries, how to know when to "push through the pain," and what seeing a sports psychologist is actually like.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How are you doing? (8:30)
  • How Ian got connected with and started treating professional runners, and his approach to treating runners in pain (15:30)
  • Ian and Emily's work with Molly Seidel before the 2021 New York City Marathon (27:50)
  • What a first-time session with Emily is like (43:15)
  • Ian's role in a patient's treatment (50:00)
  • On getting older as a runner, and why Ian started seeing Emily — as a patient (54:00)
  • The most-common complaints Ian and Emily hear from their patients and clients (1:04:30)
  • Something Ian and Emily want runners to add to or remove from their lives to live and run happier (1:16:00)

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Published 2022-02-03

473. Emily Oster, Economist, Author, Professor, Runner

66 min
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"Running has served many purposes over my whole life. But in this particular set of moments now — where so much of what I'm doing is not exactly about metrics, but about data and trying to achieve or accomplish something — I realized that trying to meet some particular bar or some standard with running was not the relationship I wanted to have with that activity. I want running to be something I do for me... It's supposed to be fun."

If you're a parent, you're probably familiar with Emily Oster. She's an economist and professor of economics at Brown University, but among the child-rearing set, she's best known as the author of Expecting Better, Cribsheet, and The Family Firm. And while the media loves to call Emily a "parenting expert," Emily's actual goal is to use a data-driven approach to help parents feel more relaxed about their decisions. And while Emily swears by research and numbers in most aspects of her life, there's one area where she opts to ditch the data: on the run. Emily is a lifelong runner, and on this episode she talks about how she got into running, how she finds time to run as a busy mom of two, and how her relationship with running has evolved over the past few years.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How was Emily's run today? (5:30)
  • How Emily became an author who tackles hot parenting topics from a data-driven perspective (9:15)
  • Why Emily wants to create a world with more relaxed pregnant women and parents (14:00)
  • Why Emily started diving into pandemic-related data in March 2020 (20:00)
  • On tackling tough topics, and having thick skin (23:30)
  • What are Emily's work-life boundaries like these days? (28:00)
  • Emily's approach to running (34:00)
  • How Emily got into running, and what her family and childhood were like (36:45)
  • Emily's advice for aspiring early morning runners (49:00)
  • Emily's advice for parents who are having a tough time right now, and advice for device-addicted runners (57:30)

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"Emily Oster: Through the Looking Glass," via Tracksmith

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Published 2022-01-27

472. Emilia Benton, Boston Marathon Qualifier

59 min
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"I think this time was a long time coming. I just had to believe in myself more than anything."

The last time freelance journalist Emilia Benton was on the Ali on the Run Show, she talked about her longtime dream to qualify for the Boston Marathon. And she just kicked off 2022 by doing exactly that: running a nearly 16-minute personal best and earning a Boston qualifying time at the Houston Marathon. (Emilia's official finish time: 3:30:14!) On this episode, Emilia talks all about how she made that 12-year dream come true in Houston. She talks about the game-changing decision to hire professional runner Nell Rojas as her coach, and about what working with Nell was like throughout her marathon build-up. (Read more about their experience working together in Women's Running here.) Emilia talks about dealing with setbacks on the run, including a hip injury that sidelined her early in this training cycle, and about how she never stopped believing in herself along the way.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How Emilia's feeling after racing the Houston Marathon (3:30)
  • When the dream of Boston Qualifying first entered Emilia's mind (4:30)
  • Emilia's plan to run the 2021 New York City Marathon, and her decision to hire coach Nell Rojas (6:45)
  • Why Houston? (19:45)
  • On running CIM as a workout, and other confidence-boosting experiences leading up to Houston (21:00)
  • What it was like being at the Houston Marathon as a member of the media, an ambassador, and a race participant (23:00)
  • How Emilia was feeling on race day (27:10)
  • Emilia's goals and plans for race day (33:00)
  • On keeping it fun (42:30)
  • When Emilia knew she was going to BQ (46:20)
  • Emilia's post-race thoughts (51:00)
  • How Emilia shaved 16 minutes off her marathon PR (52:30)

Check out:

Emilia Benton on Episode 340 of the Ali on the Run Show

Nell Rojas on Episode 434 of the Ali on the Run Show

Nell Rojas on Episode 431 of the Ali on the Run Show

Nell Rojas on Episode 229 of the Ali on the Run Show

Calum Neff on Episode 470 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Published 2022-01-25

471. Sara Vaughn, 2021 CIM Winner & Puma-Sponsored Athlete

67 min
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"Celebrating victories big or small — that's definitely how I choose to live life now."

The "great time to be a 30-something mom on the run" celebrations continue today on the Ali on the Run Show. Sara Vaughn is a full-time realtor and mom of four who just made — and won — her marathon debut at CIM and, within hours of crossing the finish line, was on the phone about to sign her first professional running contract with Puma. Sara has been competitive on the track for a long time, having great success particularly in the 1500m and the steeplechase. But last year, she got the itch to go long, and decided to give the marathon a try. Now, at 35, she's a fully-sponsored professional runner for the first time. On this episode, Sara talks about what life is like now with her new Puma deal, and explains how that deal came together. She talks about motherhood, identity, and whether always being pegged as a mom-on-the-run has helped or hurt her career. Plus, her spring 2022 racing plans, her decision to prioritize her mental health, and so much more.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • On being a mom on the run right now, and Sara's take on being defined as a mom (4:00)
  • On celebrating the big and little wins, and how Sara does that (13:00)
  • What a day in the life is like for Sara (15:50)
  • Reflecting on the fires in the Boulder area, and what things are like there now (18:45)
  • All about that post-CIM phone call with Puma (21:45)
  • The pre-marathon questions that Sara asked friend Amy Cragg (26:30)
  • On signing with Puma! (30:00)
  • Sara's expectations for her debut marathon, and how the reality compared (39:00)
  • Sara's approach to training for the 2022 Boston Marathon (48:00)
  • What's next for Sara? (52:45)

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Published 2022-01-20

470. Calum Neff, Pacer for Keira D'Amato's American Record at the Houston Marathon

81 min
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"We hit that first split bang on the money, and I told her, 'We're good. It's happening. It's on.'"

It was a record-breaking, history-making weekend at the Houston Marathon! Keira D'Amato won the race and ran a new American record in the marathon, finishing in 2:19:12 and breaking Deena Kastor's former record by 24 seconds. And Keira had some company along the way: two pacers, one of whom was Texas-based ultra-runner and four-time Guinness World Record Holder Calum Neff. (You may also remember Calum as the "green shorts guy" who paced Sara Hall at the Marathon Project in 2020.) And while Calum is an incredibly accomplished runner, he — like Keira — had never broken 2:20 in the marathon. So this task would require running a personal best of his own en route to that American record goal. (Spoiler: He did it, finishing in 2:19:33.) On this episode, Calum talks about how he got the role as Keira's pacer, what it was like previewing the course together the day before the race, and what that 5:18 pace actually felt like. Plus, all the details and dad jokes from the day, hashing out the realities of pandemic marriage and parenting (Calum and his wife have three daughters), and what's next for Calum.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How Calum's feeling post-race (4:00)
  • How Calum got the job as Keira D'Amato's Houston Marathon pacer (5:55)
  • What Calum's training was like leading up to Houston (16:20)
  • All about Calum's experience at the 2021 Chicago Marathon (21:00)
  • How Calum balances pacing duties with his own running goals, and what it was like previewing the course with Keira (27:15)
  • The plan for race day (36:00)
  • All about the race (46:15)
  • That finish line moment (1:04:05)
  • Calum's top moment from the day (1:13:00)
  • What's next for Calum? (1:16:00)

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Calum Neff on Episode 318 of the Ali on the Run Show

Keira D'Amato on Episode 414 of the Ali on the Run Show

Keira D'Amato on Episode 305 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Published 2022-01-18

469. Allie Wilson, Professional Runner for Atlanta Track Club Elite

67 min
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"I will be a nervous wreck until that gun goes off, but I will never race like I'm nervous… As soon as I'm racing, it all goes out the window, and I'm always going to race my heart out, no matter what."

At last summer's U.S. Olympic Track & Field Team Trials, Allie Wilson officially solidified her spot as "one to watch" in the 800m. The professional runner for Atlanta Track Club Elite made it to the final round of the 800, ultimately finishing sixth. And despite not making the Olympic team, she walked away from Hayward Field proudly — and with a new personal best (1:59.02). On this episode, Allie reflects on her first Olympic Trials experience. She talks about her pre-race meltdown before the first round of competition, and talks about how she deals with race-day nerves. Allie talks about why she likes "racing under the radar," and about how she's learned not to count herself out when it matters the most. ("I may not be the fastest person going into the Trials, but I'm one of the fastest," Allie says. "And anything can happen if you put your mind to it.") Plus, all about heat training in Florida and what's on tap for 2022.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • All about what Allie is up to in Florida right now (5:40)
  • On Allie's evolution as a runner (12:10)
  • Reflecting on last summer's U.S. Olympic Track & Field Team Trials (15:20)
  • How Allie learned not to count herself out (19:15)
  • All about that first round at the Trials (24:40)
  • How Allie was feeling heading into the semi-finals (34:40)
  • Breaking down the 800m final at the Olympic Trials (39:00)
  • On racing happy and loving this sport (47:30)
  • How Allie ended up in Atlanta (53:50)
  • What's on tap for 2022? (58:45)

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Published 2022-01-14

468. Brittany Charboneau, 2022 Dopey Challenge Champion

85 min
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"It was just so magical. Like holy smokes, I did it."

Last weekend, Brittany Charboneau made Disney history by becoming the first person to ever win all four races in the Dopey Challenge. The North Face-sponsored professional runner ran four races in four days — a 5K, 10K, half marathon, and marathon — and broke the tape at each one. And she did so in carefully curated costumes that she hand-made herself, including Elsa from Frozen 2, Bing Bong and Joy from Inside Out, and Cruella de Vil from Cruella. On this episode, Brittany talks about why she wanted to complete the Dopey Challenge after a disappointing experience at last year's Boston Marathon. She talks about getting Covid just a few weeks before the races, and about her inspiration for each race and each costume. Plus, the Colorado-based comedian talks about attending "Broadway Camp" in New York City, where she spent nine hours a day training in dance, acting, and singing — in addition to training for the Dopey Challenge.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How Brittany's feeling after completing the Dopey Challenge (5:30)
  • Why Brittany wanted to run the Dopey Challenge (7:30)
  • All about Brittany's Dopey Challenge goals, and how she trained to run four races in four days (12:45)
  • On getting Covid on Christmas Eve (20:15)
  • On winning the Dopey Challenge 5K in 17:36, dressed as Elsa from Frozen 2 (22:00)
  • On winning the Dopey Challenge 10K in 36:36, dressed as Bing Bong from Inside Out (30:15)
  • On winning the Dopey Challenge half marathon in 1:19:18, dressed as Joy from Inside Out (36:00)
  • On winning the Dopey Challenge marathon in 2:45:15, dressed as Cruella de Vil from 101 Cruella (48:30)
  • All about those finish line cookies (1:05:45)
  • What it was like getting a private tour of Walt Disney World (1:08:30)
  • All about Broadway Camp in New York City (1:10:20)
  • What's next for Brittany (1:15:20)

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Sugar Tats Cookie Company

Broadway Weekends

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Published 2022-01-13

467. Dakotah Lindwurm, Puma-Sponsored Professional Runner

61 min
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"That is how I always race — I've always got a smile on my face."

Dakotah Lindwurm runs happy. If you saw her leading the 2021 Boston Marathon — where she ultimately finished as the third American woman — you saw that smile on full display, from start to finish. And that smile just got a lot bigger, as Dakotah kicks off the new year with her first professional contract. Last week, Dakotah announced that she has officially signed with Puma, and that she will continue training with Minnesota Distance Elite. On this episode, the 2:29 marathoner (and former hockey goalie!) talks about her stellar past year on the run, which included two half-marathon personal bests and a win at Grandma's Marathon, where she also ran a personal best. She talks about being pegged as an underdog, and why she loves it, and about her goals for this weekend's Houston Half Marathon.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How Dakotah's Puma contract came together (3:15)
  • How Dakotah's feeling heading into her first race as a sponsored athlete (7:45)
  • On being a happy runner (10:40)
  • Reflecting on the 2021 Boston Marathon, and the highs and lows in Dakotah's career so far (14:10)
  • How Dakotah plans her racing calendar, and all about signing with an agent (23:00)
  • The underdog mentality (26:50)
  • All about Dakotah's training (33:00)
  • What Dakotah's childhood was like, and how she got into running (38:45)
  • All the stuff Dakotah does off the run (46:00)
  • Dakotah's advice for pursuing big running goals in 2022 (55:00)

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Minnesota Distance Elite

Run the Mile You're In by Ryan Hall

Atomic Habits by James Clear

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Published 2022-01-11

466. Hiruni Wijayaratne, South Asia's Fastest Marathoner

71 min
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"I feel like I'm in love again with the process of waking up early, putting my shoes on, bundling up, and going for a run. It doesn't feel quite easy or fun all the time yet, but I'm definitely in love with the process again."

For most professional athletes, a day in the life includes running, eating, recovering, napping, resting, running again, eating again, and sleeping. But for Hiruni Wijayaratne — the 11-time Sri Lankan record holder in distances from the 5,000 meters to the marathon, and the fastest female marathoner in South Asia — running has to happen before or after her other jobs. Hiruni lives in Colorado, where she works full-time in the tech industry, coaches with Runcoach, and trains at an elite level under the coaching of Ric Rojas. On this episode, Hiruni talks about her years-long quest to qualify for Sri Lanka's Olympic marathon team, and what it's been like to fall short of that goal and break her mind, body, and spirit in the process. She talks about her struggles over the past few years, and about clawing her way back to loving running again. Most recently, Hiruni ran the California International Marathon (with training partner Nell Rojas!), where she earned her second-fastest marathon time, finishing in 2:34:22. But the road to the CIM start line wasn't easy, and today Hiruni is here to talk about what it means to bet on yourself — and how she's learned to do it.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • What it was like being in the Boulder area during the massive fires in December (4:10)
  • All about Hiruni's recent wedding! (11:15)
  • What Hiruni's job is like, what it entails, and when she runs (13:00)
  • All about those 12 seconds at CIM (16:45)
  • The road to CIM (18:20)
  • What Hiruni's relationship with running is like now (23:40)
  • Hiruni's high point in CIM training (28:00)
  • Hiruni's CIM goals (32:30)
  • How CIM played out for Hiruni (41:35)
  • How Hiruni learned to bet on herself (51:50)
  • On goal setting in the new year (58:15)

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Nell Rojas on Episode 434 of the Ali on the Run Show

Nell Rojas on Episode 431 of the Ali on the Run Show

Nell Rojas on Episode 229 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Published 2022-01-06

465. The 2022 State of the Ali on the Run Show

76 min
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"I don't know what the year will bring, but I know I'm going to keep showing up for myself and for all of you."

In 2021, I released 165 episodes of the Ali on the Run Show with 134 different guests. I welcomed 10 new sponsors to the show, and maintained a strong partnership with eight longtime sponsors. In addition to the "hallmark" Thursday conversations, there was a steady stream of fun series options to choose from, including Love on the Run, On the Job, Ask Ali, What's New With You, Just Missed, Ramblings on the Run, and The Everyday Runner. After a long, pandemic-induced break, I was thrilled to return to in-person live shows in both Boston and New York City, and I hosted two virtual live shows earlier in the year. In October, the show surpassed 10 million downloads. November saw the show's single highest week of downloads, and became the show's highest-ever month of downloads. I hired a new member of the Ali on the Run Show team, and finally (finally!) created and sold merchandise.

It wasn't an easy year. We were — and still are — in this pandemic. I'm still recording all of my episodes remotely, without having face-to-face conversations with the guests. I'm still trying to do a better job of navigating my role in the running industry's problems with racism and representation, and on this episode, you'll hear me acknowledge where I feel I fell short this year.

Today, I offer my annual State of the Ali on the Run Show, reflecting on the past, present, and future of this podcast. I'm here (solo today, and returning with guests next week) to look back on 2021, sharing both the by-the-numbers and beyond-the-numbers looks at the past year. I touch on my personal highlight reel from 2021, and revisit my 2021 goals. I share some key takeaways from the year-end listener survey (thank you to the thousand of you who participated!), and share what you can expect from this show in 2022.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • The Ali on the Run Show in 2021, by the numbers (2:20)
  • Revisiting my 2021 goals (42:50)
  • Key takeaways from the 2021 Ali on the Run Show year-end listener survey (51:30)
  • What you can expect from the Ali on the Run Show in 2022 (1:05:15)

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Published 2021-12-30

464. Michelle Wolf, Comedian & Ultramarathoner

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"If I'm stuck on a joke, I'll go for a run and think about it during my run. And almost all the time, I can figure it out on the run."

Michelle Wolf is a comedian who is best known for her stand-up specials (Michelle Wolf: Joke Show on Netflix, and Michelle Wolf: Nice Lady on HBO), and her roles as a writer and on-air contributor at both The Daily Show with Trevor Noah and Late Night with Seth Meyers. And though she's been successful on the comedy scene for a long time, it was her set as the headliner at the 2018 White House Correspondents' Dinner that really made headlines. Where was she when she got the call about being invited to the dinner? On a run. And what did she do in the aftermath, when life was, as she recalls, "tumultuous?" Go for a run. Michelle is a college high jumper turned avid distance runner, ultramarathoner, and self-proclaimed "track and field super fan." On this episode, she talks about her road to comedy fame, what her joke-writing process is like, and how she deals when rejection and feedback are essential parts of her job. Plus, all about that White House Correspondents' Dinner, including how she came up with the material, what it was like in the moment, and what happened next.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How Michelle became a fan of the sport (6:40)
  • On writing and telling running jokes (15:15)
  • Is the goal as a comedian to make everyone laugh the entire time? (17:00)
  • What Michelle was like as a kid (19:20)
  • How Michelle went from Wall Street to comedy (25:45)
  • What Michelle's comedic process is like (39:40)
  • All about the 2018 White House Correspondents' Dinner (47:30)
  • Why that time in Michelle's life was so "tumultuous" (1:03:20)
  • What hasn't Michelle done? (1:09:55)
  • Michelle's advice for being more confident (1:17:55)

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Published 2021-12-28

463. Jesse Harmon, Founder of Run Hard

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A disclaimer, before we get into it: This conversation talks at great length about one man's experience with disordered eating and anorexia. We discuss his eating habits and behaviors, his weight fluctuations, and what worked for him during recovery. As always, I want you to take care of yourselves and your hearts, and if for any reason these topics are hard for you to hear about right now, please consider listening cautiously or skipping this episode.

"They looked me straight in the eye and said, 'You're dying.' And I didn't believe them."

Jesse Harmon is a 12-time marathoner with a 2:58 personal best in the distance. He's a dad of four, living with his wife and kids in South Carolina, where he's the founder of Run Hard — an after-school program for kids, where the goal is to create self-confidence through running. And though Jesse is a talented runner and an eager role model, the road there hasn't been easy. In 2013, Jesse was diagnosed with anorexia. His doctors told him he was going to die if he kept living the way he was living. On this episode, Jesse shares his story — the highs, the lows, the scary parts, and the light bulb moment that got him to finally commit to recovery. Plus, where he's at now in what he calls this "lifelong race."

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Published 2021-12-23

462: The 2020 Virtual Live Show Holiday Party with Shalane Flanagan, Des Linden, & Aisha Praught Leer

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"Holiday songs are my passion." —Aisha Praught Leer

One year ago, we closed out 2020 on the Ali on the Run Show with a holiday party of sorts. It was virtual, with a 500-person Zoom audience, a Schitt's Creek-inspired soundtrack, and an all-star guest lineup: Shalane Flanagan, Des Linden, and Aisha Praught Leer. We sat in front of our Christmas trees (Shalane wore holiday pajamas!), and indulged in 90 minutes of warm, fuzzy feelings. It felt like what we all needed at the time. And now, more than 365 days later, it seems like we might need those good feelings again. So, I'm releasing the episode to the public for the very first time. Whether you were there with us when the show first happened, or you're tuning in for the first time now, I hope this conversation brings you some holiday cheer. Shalane, Des, and Aisha talk about their holiday traditions, their earliest memories of happiness and joy, and what kept them motivated during peak pandemic times. (We also surprised Shalane, Des, and Aisha with a video that included tons of clips from their loved ones, and though you can't see the video here, listening in is still pretty fun, and you can see the names of all the guests, in order, below.)

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The video guest list (they're all past Ali on the Run Show guests!), in order of "appearance:"

Will Leer (Aisha's husband)

Laura Thweatt (Aisha's former teammate and close friend)

Courtney Frerichs (Shalane's athlete and friend)

Gwen Jorgensen (Shalane's athlete and friend)

Ryan Linden (Des's husband)

Mary Kate Shea (Des's friend)

Elise Cranny (Shalane's athlete)

Listen to Des on the Ali on the Run Show:

Episode 363

Episode 205: Love on the Run with Des & Ryan Linden

Episode 100

Episode 77: Live in San Diego

Episode 64

Listen to Shalane on the Ali on the Run Show:

Episode 438

Episode 242

Listen to Aisha on the Ali on the Run Show:

Episode 415

Episode 204

Episode 197

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Published 2021-12-21

461. Makenna Myler, Professional Distance Runner

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"That seems to have diminished quite a bit since having a baby. The outcomes really don't matter. It's just so much more about who I'm becoming as I'm trying to reach these goals. It's so cliché, right — the journey. But it really is true. The journey and who you're becoming are just so much more important."

Last year, Makenna Myler went viral when she ran a mile in five minutes and 25 seconds — at nine months pregnant. On this episode, Makenna talks about that day, and about the bet she had with her husband that motivated the run. She also talks about the aftermath of going viral, and the criticism she received just days before going into labor. Today, Makenna is mom to one-year-old Kenny Lou, and she's had a strong comeback on the run. She qualified for the Olympic Track & Field Trials in the 10K, competed at the Trials and finished 14th (her goal was to finish in the top 15!), won the Deseret News Half Marathon (and set a course record in the process), and signed a professional contract with Asics. Most recently, Makenna ran the TCS New York City Marathon — and she's hungry for more. Plus, Makenna talks about her expectations about running and motherhood, and shares what the reality has been like for her.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • When Makenna gets out for her runs (5:50)
  • Makenna's tradition of racing a mile at important times in her life (7:10)
  • The dare, the mile, and the aftermath (10:00)
  • On the decision to have children when you are a professional athlete (21:00)
  • Makenna's expectations about running and motherhood, and how the reality compares (26:30)
  • Makenna's quest to qualify for the Olympic Track & Field Trials, and what it was like competing at the Trials (29:30)
  • On signing with Asics (40:30)
  • Makenna's experience at this year's New York City Marathon (48:00)
  • What's on Makenna's mind now (56:30)

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Published 2021-12-16

460. Sika Henry, Professional Triathlete

67 min
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"I hit a severe low. I went through a bout of depression, actually. I felt lost, in some ways. I had this dream and this goal, and I was so focused, and then I achieved it…and then it was like I didn't have anything."

Earlier this year, Sika Henry made history, becoming the first African American woman to become a professional triathlete. She's an Ironman, an ultramarathoner (she just completed the JFK 50 Mile last month), and a Hoka-sponsored athlete. But the road to trailblazing status hasn't been without its challenges. In 2019, Sika was competing at an Ironman 70.3 event in Texas when she crashed her bike and had to be rushed to the hospital. On this episode, she recalls that day, and talks about the road to getting back on the bike, and back to herself. She talks about earning her triathlon pro card this year, and about dealing with a bout of depression afterward. Plus, all about the breakup that inspired her to get her start in triathlon (relatable!), what it was like completing the JFK 50 Mile, and why representation is so important to her. (For more from Sika, check out her recent profile in the New York Times.)

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • On working full-time and being a professional triathlete (2:15)
  • Why Sika wanted to run the JFK 50 (5:25)
  • Sika's JFK 50 race plan (11:45)
  • Sika's JFK 50 recap (16:00)
  • How the ultra community compares to the triathlon community, in Sika's experience (22:00)
  • Sika's highlight reel (27:00)
  • All about Sika's family and childhood (30:15)
  • How Sika got into triathlon (39:35)
  • Sika's bike accident in 2019 (41:30)
  • All about Sika's first Ironman at World Championships in Kona (46:50)
  • On becoming the first African American woman to earn her triathlon pro card (50:00)
  • Sika talks about making her pro debut (56:15)
  • What Sika wants to do next (1:00:25)

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Published 2021-12-15

459. Sara Hall's 2021 Recap

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"We all want love and belonging at the end of the day. And so when you feel like your love and belonging is threatened if you fail…at a young age I started to really become afraid of that."

We kicked off 2021 on the Ali on the Run Show with professional runner Sara Hall, and today, Sara is back to recap the highs and lows of her year, both on the run (wins and podiums!) and off (getting Covid early in the year and dealing with a long recovery). Sara talks about her win at the NYRR Mini 10K, her fifth-place finish at the U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials 10K, and her third-place finish at the Chicago Marathon in October. She also talks about supporting her daughters in their endeavors, whether on the sidelines at their races or in mother-daughter hip-hop classes. Plus, a look ahead at 2022 and Sara's hopes and dreams as a member of the World Championship Marathon team.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • On the pursuit of the perfect hip-hop class (4:15)
  • On daughter Mia's recent race and the responses to Sara's post about it (6:15)
  • Reflecting on running The Marathon Project one year ago (8:40)
  • How Sara's handling her current downtime, and what Sara's like on the sidelines while her daughters are racing (11:35)
  • How Sara plans and balances her race calendar (17:45)
  • Has Sara ever felt fully satisfied after a race? (19:30)
  • On training with Emma Coburn in Crested Butte before the Olympic Track & Field Trials (25:30)
  • Looking back on the U.S. Olympic Track & Field Trials (28:00)
  • Reflecting on this year's Chicago Marathon, and on learning to cope with outside expectation and pressure (35:00)
  • The moment from the Chicago Marathon that Sara remembers most (47:20)
  • What hasn't Sara done yet? (50:40)
  • Sara's High / Low / High from 2021 (56:00)

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Sara Hall on Episode 321 of the Ali on the Run Show

Sara Hall on Episode 300 of the Ali on the Run Show

Sara and Ryan Hall on Episode 144 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Published 2021-12-14

458. The Everyday Runners, Julia Berteletti & Robyn Mayer

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"Women really only get tougher. I've figured that out myself, and I've figured that out watching others. I don't really put a limit at this point of what being a mom and being a runner means anymore."

Welcome to the fifth and final episode in Season 2 of the Everyday Runner series. And today, we're getting a two-for-one deal, with Denver-based running best friends Robyn Mayer and Julia Berteletti! This warm-fuzzy-filled episode is all about the power of female friendships, both on the run and beyond. Julia and Robyn met through Twitter (remember those days?!) a decade ago, and eventually met in real life when they both moved to Colorado and started working out with November Project. On this episode, they share their real-life meet-cute moment, and talk about why they hit it off right away. They talk about their expectations about running after having children, and about the reality. Julia is mom to three-year-old Max, and talks about her hopes to have a second child, and the three miscarriages she has suffered along the way. Robyn is mom to two-year-old Rosie, and talks about her experience with Crohn's disease and how it affects her every day. Both women just ran CIM as their first marathons since becoming moms, so they reflect on how marathon training is different with a little one at home when you are also working full-time outside the home. Plus, what they talk about on the run together, and all about their Shalane Flanagan and Abby Wambach moment at CIM.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • Julia and Robyn share their CIM recaps (5:00)
  • What it was like marathon training as a parent vs. pre-parenthood training (19:30)
  • Robyn's experience with Crohn's disease (24:15)
  • What Young Julia was like (29:25)
  • What Young Robyn was like (30:40)
  • How Julia and Robyn each found running (34:15)
  • How Julia and Robyn met (40:20)
  • When Julia and Robyn get their runs in (46:40)
  • On family planning when you're a runner with big dreams and goals (49:10)
  • The running highlight reels, and what Julia and Robyn are looking forward to and dreaming about now (53:30)

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Published 2021-12-10

457. Ask Ali!

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"I know that for me to run well, I need to be happy, I need to not be stressed, I need to be relaxed, and I need to know that the time on the clock does not define me as a human."

Welcome to Ask Ali, a twice-a-month series where I answer all of your questions. This time around — the last Ask Ali of the year! — we've got listener questions about early morning running, my favorite winter running gear, what to do when training feels discouraging, how I decide who to feature on the podcast, and more. Thanks to everyone who called in for this one. Enjoy!

If you want to be part of a future "Ask Ali" episode (yay!), call 917-947-9699 — introduce yourself, and ask whatever's on your mind! I can't wait to hear from you!

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You asked:

  • Tips for morning running (3:00)
  • What I wear when I run in the dark (10:00)
  • My favorite pieces of running gear (14:45)
  • My favorite running songs and playlists (17:50)
  • What to do when you're feeling discouraged instead of empowered after a workout (23:25)
  • How I decide who to interview on the show, and how I get in touch with them (31:45)
  • What to look for in a running coach (38:50)

I mentioned:

Amphipod light vest

Noxgear light vest

Millennium Running code

Headlamp

Hoka Cliftons

lululemon socks

lululemon Base Pace tight

Tracksmith Brighton Base Layer

Down For It All vest and jacket

lululemon earwarmer

lululemon gloves

lululemon Wunder Train Long Line bra

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456. Talya Minsberg, New York Times Sports Editor

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"It was so cool, and so weird, and it's still hard to describe."

For many sports journalists — especially the ones who cover running — New York City Marathon week is arguably the busiest of the year. That was certainly true for New York Times sports editor Talya Minsberg, who not only covered the race and many of the stories leading up to it, but also ran the marathon herself (and earned a Boston Marathon qualifying time in the process!). On this episode, Talya reflects on that week, sharing the stories she was most excited to tell (notably, the one about Tommy Rivers Puzey's comeback), and stories from her own race. She talks about what her days look like writing, editing, and managing the NYT Running newsletter. Plus, tales from the Met Gala, the Tokyo Olympics, and the Times comment section.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • What's making Talya happy right now? (5:00)
  • What Talya's busiest week of the year was like (6:00)
  • All about that Tommy Rivers Puzey story (14:30)
  • What Talya's reporting process is like (18:45)
  • The stories that give Talya butterflies (24:50)
  • What it was like running the virtual NYC Marathon in 2020, and how it compared to this year's in-person race (29:00)
  • What it was like being at the Tokyo Olympics this summer (31:30)
  • Talya shares her career highlight reel (40:00)
  • What Talya was like growing up, and how she got the job at the New York Times (45:00)
  • On being a comment moderator for the New York Times (53:40)
  • How Talya spends her days now (55:50)
  • Talya's take on the uneven coverage of women's vs. men's sports in the media (57:15)
  • The running stories Talya is excited about right now (1:03:30)
  • The New York Times piece Talya thinks everyone should read (1:07:30)

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Erin Azar in the New York Times

Tommy Rivers Puzey in the New York Times

"Why Are American Women Running Faster Than Ever? We Asked Them — Hundreds of Them"

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455. The Everyday Runner, Molly Burke

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"We all just decided, we need to keep moving. We can't just stay here and wallow in this. Obviously we'll still be grieving, but we all made the decision that we had to just do the best we could."

Today's episode in the Everyday Runner series is extra special: Molly Burke is here, and she is the newest member of the Ali on the Run Show team! (Merch! Events! A retreat! A live show tour! All in the works, thanks to Molly!) Molly's story — both on the run and off — is a powerful one. On this episode, Molly talks about her family, about her dad (Brian Burke, president of hockey operations for the Pittsburgh Penguins) being big time in the NHL, and about the close bond she shares with her siblings. She talks about the impact her dad's very public career had on her and her siblings growing up, and shares the story of her brother, Brendan, privately and publicly coming out as gay, and being the first NHL-affiliated person to do so. Tragically, Brendan was killed in a car accident just three months later. Molly talks about leaning into running as a way to help cope with her grief, and talks about being an advocate and ally for the LGBTQ+ community. (Come for the inspiration. Stay for the story about 19-year-old Molly getting kicked out of a Bruins game for standing up to a group of men using homophobic slurs.) Plus, Molly talks about her career working at Edelman and TripAdvisor, and talks about why she was hesitant to join a run group or group fitness class — and how she got over it.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • What running looks like for Molly right now (4:45)
  • What Molly's childhood was like (14:30)
  • How Molly is like her dad, and how she's like her mom (23:10)
  • All about Molly's brother, Brendan (25:00)
  • How Molly found running (42:00)
  • On being an advocate and ally for the LGBTQ+ community (49:30)
  • What it was like running the virtual Boston Marathon last year, and raising more than $11,000 for You Can Play (54:00)
  • Molly's running and racing highlights (1:01:30)

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Katie Burke on Episode 327 of the Ali on the Run Show

Katie Burke on Episode 252 of the Ali on the Run Show

Katie Burke on Episode 84 of the Ali on the Run Show

Katie Burke on Episode 70 of the Ali on the Run Show

MyStryd Boston

"We love you, this won't change a thing."

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