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Sam Stein, Tim Miller, and Will Sommer break down the explosive feud between Candace Owens and Laura Loomer, including the shocking “sexual predator” and gay husband accusations flying back and forth. The trio takes on Donald Trump’s teased MAGA media rankings and builds their own list of winners, losers, and the truly unhinged figures in Trumpworld. Plus, why a devoted Nick Fuentes supporter went on CNN to talk about his hero and then found himself in his crosshairs.

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Sam Stein, Tim Miller, and Will Sommer break down the explosive feud between Candace Owens and Laura Loomer, including the shocking “sexual predator” and gay husband accusations flying back and forth. The trio takes on Donald Trump’s teased MAGA media rankings and builds their own list of winners, losers, and the truly unhinged figures in Trumpworld. Plus, why a devoted Nick Fuentes supporter went on CNN to talk about his hero and then found himself in his crosshairs.

Read more from Will's "False Flag" newsletter here: https://www.thebulwark.com/s/false-flag

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Tim Miller and Bill Kristol give their takes on a major election night development in Virginia as voters approve a redistricting referendum that reshapes the state’s congressional map and clears the way for a potential 10–1 Democratic advantage. The result marks a significant political victory for Democrats, who moved aggressively to counter Republican-led gerrymandering efforts in other states.

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Tim Miller and Bill Kristol give their takes on a major election night development in Virginia as voters approve a redistricting referendum that reshapes the state’s congressional map and clears the way for a potential 10–1 Democratic advantage. The result marks a significant political victory for Democrats, who moved aggressively to counter Republican-led gerrymandering efforts in other states.

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Sam Stein, Tim Miller, and Will Sommer break down the explosive feud between Candace Owens and Laura Loomer, including the shocking “sexual predator” and gay husband accusations flying back and forth. The trio takes on Donald Trump’s teased MAGA media rankings and builds their own list of winners, losers, and the truly unhinged figures in Trumpworld. Plus, why a devoted Nick Fuentes supporter went on CNN to talk about his hero and then found himself in his crosshairs.

Read more from Will's False Flag newsletter here.

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Sam Stein, Tim Miller, and Will Sommer break down the explosive feud between Candace Owens and Laura Loomer, including the shocking “sexual predator” and gay husband accusations flying back and forth. The trio takes on Donald Trump’s teased MAGA media rankings and builds their own list of winners, losers, and the truly unhinged figures in Trumpworld. Plus, why a devoted Nick Fuentes supporter went on CNN to talk about his hero and then found himself in his crosshairs.

Read more from Will's False Flag newsletter here.

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A candlelight vigil on April 19, 2026 in Shreveport, Louisiana, following the killing of eight children in a domestic violence incident. (Photo by Brandon Bell/Getty Images)

EIGHT CHILDREN DIED in a mass shooting in Shreveport, Louisiana this weekend.

Eight children.

The oldest was 11. The youngest was 3. One had just celebrated bringing up his literacy scores, the schools superintendent recalled at a press conference Monday. Another loved to run outside and play with Nerf guns, as a grieving family member told the Washington Post.1

Investigators are still piecing together exactly what happened early Sunday morning. But it appears the children were victims of domestic violence, killed by an Army National Guard veteran who was father to seven of the eight.

Neighbors and friends have said the man was angry at the two women who were the children’s mothers, and who lived in the two homes where the shootings seem to have taken place over the span of about an hour. One of the women, to whom he was married, was in the process of seeking a divorce.

The two women survived their wounds. A third, the killer’s sister-in-law, escaped with a 12-year-old when they jumped off the roof during the rampage. As for the alleged killer, he is dead—shot either by himself or by police at a house where he tried to hide after the murders. Friends and family say that he had a history of mental illness, and that he had talked about “dark thoughts,” as one relative put it.

Still, they said, he seemed to love his children. Two days before the killings, he had posted a photo to his Facebook page showing his 11-year-old daughter sitting in the passenger’s seat of a car, a drink and ketchup packets in her lap while she bites into a burger.

“Lol!!!! Took my oldest on a lil 1 on 1 date had to catch her down bad ugh ugh…” the post says, followed by several cheery emojis.

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THE SHREVEPORT MASSACRE is the deadliest mass shooting in the United States since the January 2024 killings of eight people in Joliet, Illinois. The most lethal from previous years were the October 2023 killings at a Maine bowling alley and restaurant, the May 2023 killings at a Dallas-area outlet mall, and the January 2023 killings at a dance studio in Southern California. And before that? There were the Uvalde school massacre and the Buffalo mall shootings, both in May 2022.

Just to list all of these is to remember how routine mass shootings have become in the United States. But this one was different in one disturbing way. All the other incidents commanded national attention, sometimes for days. Sunday’s killing made far less of an impression, getting second- or third-tier treatment on both television and online.

You had to scroll six or seven times on a smartphone just to find the story on the New York Times homepage. And that was on the day it happened. More than forty-eight hours have passed as I type these words, and—although outlets like the Post, Times, and Associated Press have reporters on the ground in Shreveport—the story has mostly vanished from the news.

Unless you live there.

Local media have provided nearly nonstop coverage—of the incident itself as well as the official followup and community reaction, which started organically on Sunday night when the owner of a nearby restaurant decided to close for the evening and host a vigil that attracted about fifty people.

“I just felt moved to do it—I have kids,” Leon Bell told me by phone. His restaurant, Tha Thing, is just minutes from Cedar Grove, the lower-income, predominantly black neighborhood where the killings took place and where he grew up. “We need to come together as a community . . . and to let people know that if somebody needs help, don’t be afraid to reach out and call.”

That was also the message of James Green, a pastor and city council member. He got a call about the shootings at around 8 a.m., while teaching Sunday School, and then announced the news while leading services two hours later to an audience he described as stunned. “All I can describe it as is a bust in the gut, that takes the air out,” Green told me.

During public appearances and in interviews, local officials have mentioned that gun violence is a familiar experience in Shreveport, breeding its own kind of indifference. That is part of why leaders like Alan Jackson, a pastor and city council member, say the tributes and investigations are so important.

“It’s gut wrenching,” Jackson told me in a phone interview. “This senseless violence has to stop, and I’m hoping this can be a wakeup call.”

And it might be, at least in the Shreveport community, where the tragedy will linger in all kinds of ways—and in all kinds of places. Quanerick Milton, lead pastor at the Tabernacle Baptist Church-MLK in Shreveport, told me that he spoke to a teacher who had one of the murdered children in their class—and who described a day of open weeping from children and instructors alike.

“It was a very emotional day for that particular classroom,” Milton said, “because now that seat will be empty, because of that child that once sat there.”

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MAYBE IT’S THE SHEER REGULARITY of mass shootings in America that explains the national indifference to the Shreveport massacre. People have just become numb to the whole phenomenon.

Or maybe it was the specific circumstances of what happened in Shreveport. The killings took place in private homes, rather than a mall or a school where anybody could imagine their children being present. The victims were low-income and black.

These sorts of killings happen all the time, all over the United States, just not usually at this scale. Even before Shreveport, 58 children under the age of 12 had died from shootings already this year, according to a tally at the Gun Violence Archive. That’s right in line with the usual trend, with roughly 200 to 300 children across America dying from gun violence every year. Children who are black or Latino, or come from lower-income communities, have a higher probability of being victims.

Their deaths stopped being “news” a long time ago. This is a uniquely American phenomenon but one we’ve come to accept. The gun homicide rate in the United States is larger than in any other economically advanced country, and it’s not even close. In fact, if you limit the comparison to Europe and East Asia, the difference is literally an order of magnitude: Guns kill more than ten times as many people in the United States as they do in Greece or Norway, Slovakia or Japan.

The simplest explanation for the difference is also the one most researchers think is the best: We have way more guns in circulation, statistically more than one for every single person living here. Or to put it another way, more than 40 percent of all the world’s civilian-owned firearms are in the United States.

The seeming futility of addressing that problem may also contribute to our collective ambivalence about gun deaths. Significantly reducing that gun stock would require enacting dramatic new restrictions on gun ownership, and then some kind of gun buyback program—the kind that Australia conducted in the 1990s, after the massacre of thirty-five people in Tasmania prompted a national demand for action.

That kind of action seems not even remotely possible in the United States. The political obstacles to any kind of action on guns are formidable, as advocates for restrictions learned after a presidential-led effort to pass relatively new limits in the wake of the 2012 Sandy Hook killings failed.

And now there are massive legal obstacles too, thanks to a 2022 Supreme Court ruling written by Justice Clarence Thomas that renders even modest gun regulations constitutionally suspect.

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BUT IT’S A MISTAKE TO ASSUME those obstacles render action futile, or that anything short of a total ban is not worth pursuing. “Real and important changes take time,” as my Bulwark colleague Jim Swift wrote about guns two years ago. And the Shreveport killings, precisely because they were so typical of what happens in America, show why.

Start with domestic violence, which is so frequently when guns are used to injure and murder.2 Local efforts to identify and then monitor likely abusers have been shown to reduce the incidence of violence. Funding shelters, providing rental vouchers and other forms of housing assistance can also have an impact, according to research, simply by allowing them—and their children—to get out of harm’s way.

Initiatives that integrate mental health workers into police responses or seek to intervene before violence happens—through local, credible messengers who can act as conflict mediators—have also shown promise.

And then there are the guns.

Nobody is getting rid of them anytime soon, or maybe ever. But there’s evidence that requiring a license to own a gun (in the same way states require a license to drive a car) reduces gun violence. The same goes for Extreme Risk Protection Orders, more commonly known as “red flag” laws, that allow police to take guns away from people who pose a threat—like, for example, expressing the sort of “dark thoughts” the Shreveport killer did.

To be clear, the evidence on these interventions is not as solid as it is for other policy interventions, as a thorough, ongoing review of studies by the Rand Corporation has demonstrated. And, generally speaking, the evidence on the effectiveness of Red Flag laws in reducing homicide is weaker than evidence around their effectiveness in reducing suicide.

Partly that’s because restrictions on research into gun violence—enacted following pressure from the gun industry, eventually eased following pushback led by congressional Democrats—made studying the effects of restrictions difficult. Partly that’s because the gun trade is interstate, making it difficult to isolate the effects of restrictions states act on their own.

And partly that’s because some of these initiatives are relatively new or have proliferated only recently. There just hasn’t been a lot of time to study them.

But the cost of trying these policies is relatively small, in both the figurative and literal sense. The targeted interventions are not hugely expensive—hundreds of millions of dollars at the national level, where budget allocations are measured in tens or hundreds of billions. Plus they have real potential to generate savings, given the many expenses of dealing with gun violence after the fact.

As for the gun restrictions that are part of the current debate, they also don’t meaningfully impinge on the rights of gun owners, except maybe to make the process of acquiring firearms a little more arduous.

EVEN THAT ADDED DIFFICULTY is likely more than some opponents of gun restrictions are willing to accept. But the majority of Americans are willing, according to the best available polling.

That is probably why, now and then, outbursts of gun violence here do lead to change. The 2018 school shooting in Parkland, Florida led that state to enact a red flag law, which twenty-two states plus the District of Columbia now have. The Uvalde massacre led to a bipartisan federal law that made significant, if underappreciated, investments in mental health care.

Even the Supreme Court has shown some flexibility. Two years after issuing the decision striking down whole categories of firearm restrictions, it issued an opinion clarifying that authorities can still take guns away from people who represent “credible” threats of domestic violence.3

But simply protecting recent gains will prove a challenge in the coming years. Community initiatives may help explain the recent nationwide decline in gun violence, as a lengthy analysis in the Trace showed last fall. But the federal funding for those efforts was part of pandemic relief efforts that are expiring.

Meanwhile, the Trump administration has cut resources that go to mental health for veterans and rescinded funds for domestic violence programs. It has also proposed a rule that would make it easier for convicted criminals, including those who had been found guilty of domestic abuse, to get back their rights to own firearms.

At the state level, gun rights advocates are trying to repeal the red flag laws already on the books while blocking the adoption of new ones. One state where a red flag effort failed happens to be Louisiana—where, to the delight of the National Rifle Association, the focus has been on rolling back what few restrictions exist in the state.

Change can’t come soon enough, to the nation or the state or the city. Green, the pastor and city council member, told me there was another outburst of firearms violence in the area Monday night.

This time it wasn’t children and it wasn’t a mass shooting. It was just two young men, Green said. They got into a fight and went for their guns. Both are now dead, in yet another grim reminder of what happens and what is allowed to happen every day in America. Even when almost nobody notices.

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1

The names of the victims, according to the Caddo Parish Coroner’s Office, were Jayla Elkins, 3; Shayla Elkins, 5; Kayla Pugh, 6; Layla Pugh, 7; Markaydon Pugh, 10; Sariahh Snow, 11; Khedarrion Snow, 6; and Braylon Snow, 5.

2

It’s hard to find population-wide estimates of just how frequently guns are discharged in acts of domestic violence. But you can get a good idea of the significance by looking at other figures—including one, cited in this Johns Hopkins University briefing—that “nearly half of all women murdered in the United States are killed by a current or former intimate partner, and more than half of these intimate partner homicides are by firearm.”

3

That was an eight-to-one opinion, with Justice Clarence Thomas—the author of the 2022 ruling—dissenting.

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A candlelight vigil on April 19, 2026 in Shreveport, Louisiana, following the killing of eight children in a domestic violence incident. (Photo by Brandon Bell/Getty Images)

EIGHT CHILDREN DIED in a mass shooting in Shreveport, Louisiana this weekend.

Eight children.

The oldest was 11. The youngest was 3. One had just celebrated bringing up his literacy scores, the schools superintendent recalled at a press conference Monday. Another loved to run outside and play with Nerf guns, as a grieving family member told the Washington Post.1

Investigators are still piecing together exactly what happened early Sunday morning. But it appears the children were victims of domestic violence, killed by an Army National Guard veteran who was father to seven of the eight.

Neighbors and friends have said the man was angry at the two women who were the children’s mothers, and who lived in the two homes where the shootings seem to have taken place over the span of about an hour. One of the women, to whom he was married, was in the process of seeking a divorce.

The two women survived their wounds. A third, the killer’s sister-in-law, escaped with a 12-year-old when they jumped off the roof during the rampage. As for the alleged killer, he is dead—shot either by himself or by police at a house where he tried to hide after the murders. Friends and family say that he had a history of mental illness, and that he had talked about “dark thoughts,” as one relative put it.

Still, they said, he seemed to love his children. Two days before the killings, he had posted a photo to his Facebook page showing his 11-year-old daughter sitting in the passenger’s seat of a car, a drink and ketchup packets in her lap while she bites into a burger.

“Lol!!!! Took my oldest on a lil 1 on 1 date had to catch her down bad ugh ugh…” the post says, followed by several cheery emojis.

Share

THE SHREVEPORT MASSACRE is the deadliest mass shooting in the United States since the January 2024 killings of eight people in Joliet, Illinois. The most lethal from previous years were the October 2023 killings at a Maine bowling alley and restaurant, the May 2023 killings at a Dallas-area outlet mall, and the January 2023 killings at a dance studio in Southern California. And before that? There were the Uvalde school massacre and the Buffalo mall shootings, both in May 2022.

Just to list all of these is to remember how routine mass shootings have become in the United States. But this one was different in one disturbing way. All the other incidents commanded national attention, sometimes for days. Sunday’s killing made far less of an impression, getting second- or third-tier treatment on both television and online.

You had to scroll six or seven times on a smartphone just to find the story on the New York Times homepage. And that was on the day it happened. More than forty-eight hours have passed as I type these words, and—although outlets like the Post, Times, and Associated Press have reporters on the ground in Shreveport—the story has mostly vanished from the news.

Unless you live there.

Local media have provided nearly nonstop coverage—of the incident itself as well as the official followup and community reaction, which started organically on Sunday night when the owner of a nearby restaurant decided to close for the evening and host a vigil that attracted about fifty people.

“I just felt moved to do it—I have kids,” Leon Bell told me by phone. His restaurant, Tha Thing, is just minutes from Cedar Grove, the lower-income, predominantly black neighborhood where the killings took place and where he grew up. “We need to come together as a community . . . and to let people know that if somebody needs help, don’t be afraid to reach out and call.”

That was also the message of James Green, a pastor and city council member. He got a call about the shootings at around 8 a.m., while teaching Sunday School, and then announced the news while leading services two hours later to an audience he described as stunned. “All I can describe it as is a bust in the gut, that takes the air out,” Green told me.

During public appearances and in interviews, local officials have mentioned that gun violence is a familiar experience in Shreveport, breeding its own kind of indifference. That is part of why leaders like Alan Jackson, a pastor and city council member, say the tributes and investigations are so important.

“It’s gut wrenching,” Jackson told me in a phone interview. “This senseless violence has to stop, and I’m hoping this can be a wakeup call.”

And it might be, at least in the Shreveport community, where the tragedy will linger in all kinds of ways—and in all kinds of places. Quanerick Milton, lead pastor at the Tabernacle Baptist Church-MLK in Shreveport, told me that he spoke to a teacher who had one of the murdered children in their class—and who described a day of open weeping from children and instructors alike.

“It was a very emotional day for that particular classroom,” Milton said, “because now that seat will be empty, because of that child that once sat there.”

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MAYBE IT’S THE SHEER REGULARITY of mass shootings in America that explains the national indifference to the Shreveport massacre. People have just become numb to the whole phenomenon.

Or maybe it was the specific circumstances of what happened in Shreveport. The killings took place in private homes, rather than a mall or a school where anybody could imagine their children being present. The victims were low-income and black.

These sorts of killings happen all the time, all over the United States, just not usually at this scale. Even before Shreveport, 58 children under the age of 12 had died from shootings already this year, according to a tally at the Gun Violence Archive. That’s right in line with the usual trend, with roughly 200 to 300 children across America dying from gun violence every year. Children who are black or Latino, or come from lower-income communities, have a higher probability of being victims.

Their deaths stopped being “news” a long time ago. This is a uniquely American phenomenon but one we’ve come to accept. The gun homicide rate in the United States is larger than in any other economically advanced country, and it’s not even close. In fact, if you limit the comparison to Europe and East Asia, the difference is literally an order of magnitude: Guns kill more than ten times as many people in the United States as they do in Greece or Norway, Slovakia or Japan.

The simplest explanation for the difference is also the one most researchers think is the best: We have way more guns in circulation, statistically more than one for every single person living here. Or to put it another way, more than 40 percent of all the world’s civilian-owned firearms are in the United States.

The seeming futility of addressing that problem may also contribute to our collective ambivalence about gun deaths. Significantly reducing that gun stock would require enacting dramatic new restrictions on gun ownership, and then some kind of gun buyback program—the kind that Australia conducted in the 1990s, after the massacre of thirty-five people in Tasmania prompted a national demand for action.

That kind of action seems not even remotely possible in the United States. The political obstacles to any kind of action on guns are formidable, as advocates for restrictions learned after a presidential-led effort to pass relatively new limits in the wake of the 2012 Sandy Hook killings failed.

And now there are massive legal obstacles too, thanks to a 2022 Supreme Court ruling written by Justice Clarence Thomas that renders even modest gun regulations constitutionally suspect.

Share

BUT IT’S A MISTAKE TO ASSUME those obstacles render action futile, or that anything short of a total ban is not worth pursuing. “Real and important changes take time,” as my Bulwark colleague Jim Swift wrote about guns two years ago. And the Shreveport killings, precisely because they were so typical of what happens in America, show why.

Start with domestic violence, which is so frequently when guns are used to injure and murder.2 Local efforts to identify and then monitor likely abusers have been shown to reduce the incidence of violence. Funding shelters, providing rental vouchers and other forms of housing assistance can also have an impact, according to research, simply by allowing them—and their children—to get out of harm’s way.

Initiatives that integrate mental health workers into police responses or seek to intervene before violence happens—through local, credible messengers who can act as conflict mediators—have also shown promise.

And then there are the guns.

Nobody is getting rid of them anytime soon, or maybe ever. But there’s evidence that requiring a license to own a gun (in the same way states require a license to drive a car) reduces gun violence. The same goes for Extreme Risk Protection Orders, more commonly known as “red flag” laws, that allow police to take guns away from people who pose a threat—like, for example, expressing the sort of “dark thoughts” the Shreveport killer did.

To be clear, the evidence on these interventions is not as solid as it is for other policy interventions, as a thorough, ongoing review of studies by the Rand Corporation has demonstrated. And, generally speaking, the evidence on the effectiveness of Red Flag laws in reducing homicide is weaker than evidence around their effectiveness in reducing suicide.

Partly that’s because restrictions on research into gun violence—enacted following pressure from the gun industry, eventually eased following pushback led by congressional Democrats—made studying the effects of restrictions difficult. Partly that’s because the gun trade is interstate, making it difficult to isolate the effects of restrictions states act on their own.

And partly that’s because some of these initiatives are relatively new or have proliferated only recently. There just hasn’t been a lot of time to study them.

But the cost of trying these policies is relatively small, in both the figurative and literal sense. The targeted interventions are not hugely expensive—hundreds of millions of dollars at the national level, where budget allocations are measured in tens or hundreds of billions. Plus they have real potential to generate savings, given the many expenses of dealing with gun violence after the fact.

As for the gun restrictions that are part of the current debate, they also don’t meaningfully impinge on the rights of gun owners, except maybe to make the process of acquiring firearms a little more arduous.

EVEN THAT ADDED DIFFICULTY is likely more than some opponents of gun restrictions are willing to accept. But the majority of Americans are willing, according to the best available polling.

That is probably why, now and then, outbursts of gun violence here do lead to change. The 2018 school shooting in Parkland, Florida led that state to enact a red flag law, which twenty-two states plus the District of Columbia now have. The Uvalde massacre led to a bipartisan federal law that made significant, if underappreciated, investments in mental health care.

Even the Supreme Court has shown some flexibility. Two years after issuing the decision striking down whole categories of firearm restrictions, it issued an opinion clarifying that authorities can still take guns away from people who represent “credible” threats of domestic violence.3

But simply protecting recent gains will prove a challenge in the coming years. Community initiatives may help explain the recent nationwide decline in gun violence, as a lengthy analysis in the Trace showed last fall. But the federal funding for those efforts was part of pandemic relief efforts that are expiring.

Meanwhile, the Trump administration has cut resources that go to mental health for veterans and rescinded funds for domestic violence programs. It has also proposed a rule that would make it easier for convicted criminals, including those who had been found guilty of domestic abuse, to get back their rights to own firearms.

At the state level, gun rights advocates are trying to repeal the red flag laws already on the books while blocking the adoption of new ones. One state where a red flag effort failed happens to be Louisiana—where, to the delight of the National Rifle Association, the focus has been on rolling back what few restrictions exist in the state.

Change can’t come soon enough, to the nation or the state or the city. Green, the pastor and city council member, told me there was another outburst of firearms violence in the area Monday night.

This time it wasn’t children and it wasn’t a mass shooting. It was just two young men, Green said. They got into a fight and went for their guns. Both are now dead, in yet another grim reminder of what happens and what is allowed to happen every day in America. Even when almost nobody notices.

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1

The names of the victims, according to the Caddo Parish Coroner’s Office, were Jayla Elkins, 3; Shayla Elkins, 5; Kayla Pugh, 6; Layla Pugh, 7; Markaydon Pugh, 10; Sariahh Snow, 11; Khedarrion Snow, 6; and Braylon Snow, 5.

2

It’s hard to find population-wide estimates of just how frequently guns are discharged in acts of domestic violence. But you can get a good idea of the significance by looking at other figures—including one, cited in this Johns Hopkins University briefing—that “nearly half of all women murdered in the United States are killed by a current or former intimate partner, and more than half of these intimate partner homicides are by firearm.”

3

That was an eight-to-one opinion, with Justice Clarence Thomas—the author of the 2022 ruling—dissenting.

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Sarah Longwell, Tim Miller and JVL celebrate JVL’s Webby win (sort of), and cover Tucker Carlson’s sudden “regret” turn and what it means about MAGA, Donald Trump Jr. as a 2028 front-runner, and the continued disaster in Iran. Plus: the ongoing dysfunction inside the administration, including the latest turmoil surrounding Kash Patel.

Don't miss the Triad newsletter this Friday when JVL will answer all your pressing questions on the news of the day. Leave your questions here.

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Calling all West Coast friends: Tickets are on sale now for our Bulwark Live: California tour stops. Join Sarah, Sam and Tim in San Diego on May 20 and Los Angeles on May 21 for a night of politics among friends. For show details and to snag your seats visit TheBulwark.com/events.

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Sarah Longwell, Tim Miller and JVL celebrate JVL’s Webby win (sort of), and cover Tucker Carlson’s sudden “regret” turn and what it means about MAGA, Donald Trump Jr. as a 2028 front-runner, and the continued disaster in Iran. Plus: the ongoing dysfunction inside the administration, including the latest turmoil surrounding Kash Patel.

Don't miss the Triad newsletter this Friday when JVL will answer all your pressing questions on the news of the day. Leave your questions here.

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Calling all West Coast friends: Tickets are on sale now for our Bulwark Live: California tour stops. Join Sarah, Sam and Tim in San Diego on May 20 and Los Angeles on May 21 for a night of politics among friends. For show details and to snag your seats visit TheBulwark.com/events.

Watch, listen, and leave a comment.

This ad-free video version of The Next Level is exclusively for Bulwark+ members. Click the learn about setting up this show, ad-free, on your podcast player of choice. Or watch in the new Bulwark App—available now in the Apple and Google App stores.

You can find The Next Level wherever you get your podcasts and on YouTube. Add The Next Level to your podcast player of choice, here. And help more people find this show by leaving us a review and ⭐⭐⭐⭐ wherever you listen.

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WHEN THE CONSERVATIVE WEBSITE the Blaze published an article last November accusing a former Capitol Police officer of being the January 6th pipe bomber based on “gait analysis,” most of the public reacted skeptically.

But not the FBI.

Instead, the nation’s foremost law enforcement agency allegedly acted on the information the Blaze had gathered and sent bomb-sniffing dogs, agents in tactical gear, and even a helicopter to that former Capitol Police officer’s home. It was dramatic, terrifying, and wildly unnecessary.

That’s according to a lawsuit filed Tuesday by the former officer, Shauni Kerkhoff—who had defended Congress from the January 6th rioters and later testified in court against some of them.

Kerkhoff’s lawsuit provides startling new allegations about the government’s frantic and largely futile efforts to try to close a case that had generated a wave of wild speculation on the right and befuddled the leadership of the FBI under Director Kash Patel. It also underscores the degree to which conspiracy theories have influenced official government action, even at the highest levels.

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The drama actually began shortly before the Blaze published its now-infamous and since-retracted “gait analysis” article. According to Kerkhoff’s lawsuit, the reporter behind the story, Steve Baker, shared his allegations with staffers for Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard. His findings were based on supposed similarities between Kerkhoff’s style of walking and the bomber’s. Gabbard’s office subsequently drafted a memo identifying Kerkhoff as a possible suspect, CBS News reported.

On November 6, 2025, two days prior to the publication of the story—though one day after Baker had begun publicly teasing his findings on a podcast with the Blaze’s founder, Glenn Beck—Kerkhoff, who had left her job to work in security at the CIA, alleges that she was called in to an office at her job to meet with two FBI agents saying they were interested in “online chatter” about her role in the attempted bombings. Kerkhoff claims in her lawsuit that she was then put on administrative leave from the CIA and asked by the FBI agents to give permission for a few of them to enter the house she shared with her boyfriend to look for a pair of shoes worn by the bomber.

Kerkhoff claims she and boyfriend did not give permission to the agents, but agreed to meet them at the home.

Soon after Kerkhoff arrived at the house, she claims, a “caravan of FBI vehicles descended on their street.” The group included a bomb-disposal truck and an FBI helicopter flying overhead, as well as agents in “full tactical gear” with their guns drawn. Kerkhoff alleges the agents “swept through the house” with bomb-sniffing dogs, “rifled through drawers” and tossed the couple’s belongings on the floor.

Screenshot of a passage from the lawsuit.

“It suddenly occurred to Ms. Kerkhoff that they were not simply looking for a pair of shoes,” the lawsuit reads.

At one point, Kerkhoff claims, she asked a “senior FBI official” on the scene why “online chatter” had prompted the raid. The official, according to her lawsuit, said he was responding to orders from “higher up.”

A spokesperson for the FBI responded that the agency wouldn’t comment on ongoing litigation.

The hours-long search ended at 8 p.m., according to Kerkhoff’s lawsuit. But the ordeal wasn’t over yet. She claims she was then subjected to an hours-long polygraph test at an FBI office, leaving only in the early hours of November 7. A day later, the Blaze formally published its allegations that she was the bomber, prompting Kerkhoff and her boyfriend to hide in their home for fear of their lives, according to the lawsuit.

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Baker’s article was promoted by Republicans members of Congress, and prompted Beck to declare it “the biggest scandal” in a century. Yet it quickly fell apart under scrutiny, and was retracted after the FBI arrested suspect Brian Cole Jr. for the attempted bombing in December. Cole has since confessed to planting the bombs, which did not detonate on the day of the riot. His legal team has since tried to argue for his innocence by noting, among other things, that Baker has not backed off his original reporting.

But the Blaze has backed off, even to the point of firing Baker earlier this month. And while he was set to make a podcast appearance with Megyn Kelly, that too was apparently canceled amid fears of defamation suits. Baker, himself a January 6th defendant, told me that Blaze management is “in the fetal position” over the prospect of Kerkhoff’s lawsuit, saying the potentially massive judgment would amount to an “existential threat” to the site.

Kerkhoff returned to her job at the CIA a few weeks later, after establishing an alibi by showing prosecutors video of her playing with her dog at the time of the attempted bombings, according to the lawsuit.

She is now suing the Blaze and its former reporters for six counts of defamation, saying she suffered “reputational harm” and “emotional distress” over the article and related podcast appearances. Kerkhoff doesn’t specify how much money she’s suing for, asking instead for “actual damages in amounts to be proven at trial.” Kerkhoff is represented by heavyweight defamation firm Clare Locke.

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WHEN THE CONSERVATIVE WEBSITE the Blaze published an article last November accusing a former Capitol Police officer of being the January 6th pipe bomber based on “gait analysis,” most of the public reacted skeptically.

But not the FBI.

Instead, the nation’s foremost law enforcement agency allegedly acted on the information the Blaze had gathered and sent bomb-sniffing dogs, agents in tactical gear, and even a helicopter to that former Capitol Police officer’s home. It was dramatic, terrifying, and wildly unnecessary.

That’s according to a lawsuit filed Tuesday by the former officer, Shauni Kerkhoff—who had defended Congress from the January 6th rioters and later testified in court against some of them.

Kerkhoff’s lawsuit provides startling new allegations about the government’s frantic and largely futile efforts to try to close a case that had generated a wave of wild speculation on the right and befuddled the leadership of the FBI under Director Kash Patel. It also underscores the degree to which conspiracy theories have influenced official government action, even at the highest levels.

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The drama actually began shortly before the Blaze published its now-infamous and since-retracted “gait analysis” article. According to Kerkhoff’s lawsuit, the reporter behind the story, Steve Baker, shared his allegations with staffers for Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard. His findings were based on supposed similarities between Kerkhoff’s style of walking and the bomber’s. Gabbard’s office subsequently drafted a memo identifying Kerkhoff as a possible suspect, CBS News reported.

On November 6, 2025, two days prior to the publication of the story—though one day after Baker had begun publicly teasing his findings on a podcast with the Blaze’s founder, Glenn Beck—Kerkhoff, who had left her job to work in security at the CIA, alleges that she was called in to an office at her job to meet with two FBI agents saying they were interested in “online chatter” about her role in the attempted bombings. Kerkhoff claims in her lawsuit that she was then put on administrative leave from the CIA and asked by the FBI agents to give permission for a few of them to enter the house she shared with her boyfriend to look for a pair of shoes worn by the bomber.

Kerkhoff claims she and boyfriend did not give permission to the agents, but agreed to meet them at the home.

Soon after Kerkhoff arrived at the house, she claims, a “caravan of FBI vehicles descended on their street.” The group included a bomb-disposal truck and an FBI helicopter flying overhead, as well as agents in “full tactical gear” with their guns drawn. Kerkhoff alleges the agents “swept through the house” with bomb-sniffing dogs, “rifled through drawers” and tossed the couple’s belongings on the floor.

Screenshot of a passage from the lawsuit.

“It suddenly occurred to Ms. Kerkhoff that they were not simply looking for a pair of shoes,” the lawsuit reads.

At one point, Kerkhoff claims, she asked a “senior FBI official” on the scene why “online chatter” had prompted the raid. The official, according to her lawsuit, said he was responding to orders from “higher up.”

A spokesperson for the FBI responded that the agency wouldn’t comment on ongoing litigation.

The hours-long search ended at 8 p.m., according to Kerkhoff’s lawsuit. But the ordeal wasn’t over yet. She claims she was then subjected to an hours-long polygraph test at an FBI office, leaving only in the early hours of November 7. A day later, the Blaze formally published its allegations that she was the bomber, prompting Kerkhoff and her boyfriend to hide in their home for fear of their lives, according to the lawsuit.

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Baker’s article was promoted by Republicans members of Congress, and prompted Beck to declare it “the biggest scandal” in a century. Yet it quickly fell apart under scrutiny, and was retracted after the FBI arrested suspect Brian Cole Jr. for the attempted bombing in December. Cole has since confessed to planting the bombs, which did not detonate on the day of the riot. His legal team has since tried to argue for his innocence by noting, among other things, that Baker has not backed off his original reporting.

But the Blaze has backed off, even to the point of firing Baker earlier this month. And while he was set to make a podcast appearance with Megyn Kelly, that too was apparently canceled amid fears of defamation suits. Baker, himself a January 6th defendant, told me that Blaze management is “in the fetal position” over the prospect of Kerkhoff’s lawsuit, saying the potentially massive judgment would amount to an “existential threat” to the site.

Kerkhoff returned to her job at the CIA a few weeks later, after establishing an alibi by showing prosecutors video of her playing with her dog at the time of the attempted bombings, according to the lawsuit.

She is now suing the Blaze and its former reporters for six counts of defamation, saying she suffered “reputational harm” and “emotional distress” over the article and related podcast appearances. Kerkhoff doesn’t specify how much money she’s suing for, asking instead for “actual damages in amounts to be proven at trial.” Kerkhoff is represented by heavyweight defamation firm Clare Locke.

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Andrew Egger talks with JVL about a 2028 scenario that sounds ridiculous at first… until you actually walk through the logic. A surprise contender is polling near the top of the GOP field and could have a clearer path to the nomination than anyone wants to admit. They break down why the Republican primary may be effectively frozen for 2028, how the MAGA base shapes the field, and why some of the most obvious candidates could be boxed out before the race even begins.

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Will Saletan takes on Trump's threats to destroy Iran’s infrastructure—and the chilling defense from top officials who say “all options” includes targets that blur into civilian life. As the language shifts from bridges to hospitals and schools, the question isn’t just strategy—it’s how far the U.S. is willing to go.

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Holy Cow, THIS Is How You Beat Trump!

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Sam Stein and Sarah Longwell take on why two Democrats are breaking through, and what the rest of the party is still getting wrong. They look at standout appearances from Jon Ossoff and Pete Buttigieg, focusing on message discipline, authenticity, and why showing up in tough places matters more than chasing the latest podcast trend.
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Sam Stein and Sarah Longwell discuss the latest chaos in Trump’s Iran strategy, from collapsing negotiations to escalating threats that may be pushing the U.S. toward a much bigger conflict, and the growing concern that even his own team is managing around him.
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NYU law professor Ryan Goodman joins Bill Kristol to discuss how surveillance powers could be used—and abused—by the Donald Trump administration. Plus, a broader look at Trump's escalating clashes with the rule of law and what, if anything, Congress can still do to push back.
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NYU law professor Ryan Goodman joins Bill Kristol to discuss how surveillance powers could be used—and abused—by the Donald Trump administration. Plus, a broader look at Trump's escalating clashes with the rule of law and what, if anything, Congress can still do to push back.
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Rachel Janfaza and Lauren Egan explore a striking political shift: campus protests that once followed every move of Democrats have all but vanished under Trump—even amid a growing conflict with Iran. From massive campus shutdowns to near silence, what happened to Gen Z activism? They discuss protest fatigue, fear of consequences, changing campus rules, and a deeper cultural shift among young voters who may be giving up on protests altogether.

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Rachel Janfaza and Lauren Egan explore a striking political shift: campus protests that once followed every move of Democrats have all but vanished under Trump—even amid a growing conflict with Iran. From massive campus shutdowns to near silence, what happened to Gen Z activism? They discuss protest fatigue, fear of consequences, changing campus rules, and a deeper cultural shift among young voters who may be giving up on protests altogether.

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Tim Miller takes on fast-moving developments after Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz again and fires on commercial ships—less than a day after Donald Trump said it would "never" close again. Plus: Trump’s appearance with Joe Rogan, his response to the crisis, and his decision to shut down questions from reporters.
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Tim Miller takes on fast-moving developments after Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz again and fires on commercial ships—less than a day after Donald Trump said it would "never" close again. Plus: Trump’s appearance with Joe Rogan, his response to the crisis, and his decision to shut down questions from reporters.
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Tim Miller reacts to a jaw-dropping article in The Atlantic which alleges that FBI Director Kash Patel was repeatedly unreachable on the job—including an incident where security considered breaching a locked door to wake him. From a bizarre meltdown over a computer login to allegations of heavy drinking, missed briefings, and weekends in Vegas, Tim takes on this shocking report.

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Tim Miller joined Katy Tur on MS Now to walk through the growing gap between what Trump is claiming and what Iran is actually saying—highlighting major sticking points like enriched uranium and the fragile status of the Strait of Hormuz. Is this a real breakthrough… or just another rushed attempt to declare victory. Plus, Tim and Jonathan Cohn dig into new signs the White House may be quietly backing away from RFK Jr. as the politics and public health consequences become harder to ignore.

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Tim Miller joined Katy Tur on MS Now to walk through the growing gap between what Trump is claiming and what Iran is actually saying—highlighting major sticking points like enriched uranium and the fragile status of the Strait of Hormuz. Is this a real breakthrough… or just another rushed attempt to declare victory. Plus, Tim and Jonathan Cohn dig into new signs the White House may be quietly backing away from RFK Jr. as the politics and public health consequences become harder to ignore.

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JVL and Catherine Rampell are going live to cover Trump's announcement that the Strait of Hormuz is open, the potential $20B Iran could get from the U.S., and Catherine's latest reporting on the White House blaming corporate greed for their economic woes.

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Tim Miller gives his take to Nicolle Wallace on MS Now about Donald Trump’s escalating feud with Pope Leo. Tim breaks down president's lie that the pontiff said Iran should be allowed to have a nuclear weapon, JD Vance’s public posture on Catholicism, and the White House's easily debunked talking points to justify its Iran messaging. In between his fight with the pope, Trump also spent time trying to downplay sky-high gas prices and try to claim his ballroom is a national security concern.

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Tim Miller gives his take to Nicolle Wallace on MS Now about Donald Trump’s escalating feud with Pope Leo. Tim breaks down president's lie that the pontiff said Iran should be allowed to have a nuclear weapon, JD Vance’s public posture on Catholicism, and the White House's easily debunked talking points to justify its Iran messaging. In between his fight with the pope, Trump also spent time trying to downplay sky-high gas prices and try to claim his ballroom is a national security concern.

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Sarah Longwell gives her take on the state of race in the early contours of the 2026 midterm landscape. Democratic candidates are posting eye-popping Q1 fundraising numbers, dramatically outraising Republican opponents across key Senate and House contests. But the picture is more complicated than candidate fundraising alone—while Democrats are surging at the individual race level, Republicans maintain a substantial edge in party committees and aligned super PACs.

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Sarah Longwell gives her take on the state of race in the early contours of the 2026 midterm landscape. Democratic candidates are posting eye-popping Q1 fundraising numbers, dramatically outraising Republican opponents across key Senate and House contests. But the picture is more complicated than candidate fundraising alone—while Democrats are surging at the individual race level, Republicans maintain a substantial edge in party committees and aligned super PACs.

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JVL, Mark Hertling and Andrew Egger are going live to cover Trump's announcement of a ceasefire between Israel and Lebanon, Hegseth's press conference, and the continuing war of words between GOP figures and the Pope.

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In this Command Post edition of Bulwark Takes, Ben Parker and Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling (Ret.) examine the growing gap between political messaging and military reality, focusing on how Trump’s public statements often differ from what the military actually executes. They also break down what a “blockade” of the Strait of Hormuz really involves and why it’s far more complex and risky than it sounds in political rhetoric. Finally, they turn to Ukraine’s evolving war effort, highlighting how drone warfare and battlefield innovation are reshaping modern combat.

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In this Command Post edition of Bulwark Takes, Ben Parker and Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling (Ret.) examine the growing gap between political messaging and military reality, focusing on how Trump’s public statements often differ from what the military actually executes. They also break down what a “blockade” of the Strait of Hormuz really involves and why it’s far more complex and risky than it sounds in political rhetoric. Finally, they turn to Ukraine’s evolving war effort, highlighting how drone warfare and battlefield innovation are reshaping modern combat.

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Sonny Bunch and Damon Lindelof—the show runner behind Lost, The Leftovers, and Watchmen—discuss the growing backlash to the proposed Paramount–Warner Bros. merger and what it could mean for Hollywood’s future. Lindelof explains why he joined more than a thousand industry professionals in signing a public letter urging scrutiny of the deal. He describes a “chilling effect” across Hollywood, where even speaking out against consolidation can carry professional risk.

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Andrew Egger and Catherine Rampell give their takes on Trump latest fight with Jerome Powell, now floating the idea of firing Powell, while a bogus investigation continues to hang over the Federal Reserve. Meanwhile, Senator Thom Tillis is refusing to move forward on Trump’s preferred replacement, Kevin Warsh, unless that probe is dropped. Plus: Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and Energy Secretary Chris Wright struggle to explain rising gas prices, walking back earlier optimism as global tensions push costs higher.

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Jonathan Cohn speaks with Mitt Romney as he reflects on the 20th anniversary of Massachusetts’ landmark health care law. Romney discusses the origins of the plan, its influence on the Affordable Care Act, and why that kind of bipartisan problem-solving has all but disappeared from today’s politics.
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The MAGA energy isn’t what it used to be—and the signs are everywhere. Tim Miller joined Nicolle Wallace, and looked at JD Vance’s empty event, growing fractures inside Trump’s base, and what it says about where things are heading. Plus, why Hungary’s election offers a surprising playbook for pushing back against authoritarian politics.

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Former U.S. Ambassador to Hungary David Pressman joins Bill Kristol to discuss the stunning defeat of Viktor Orbán and what it reveals about how strongman systems actually fall. They explore how an anti-corruption message, not culture war fights, cut through and built a real movement. The conversation also digs into what American leaders can learn as they confront the rise of Trump-style politics.

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Former U.S. Ambassador to Hungary David Pressman joins Bill Kristol to discuss the stunning defeat of Viktor Orbán and what it reveals about how strongman systems actually fall. They explore how an anti-corruption message, not culture war fights, cut through and built a real movement. The conversation also digs into what American leaders can learn as they confront the rise of Trump-style politics.

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Andrew Egger and Bill Kristol went live to cover the week's biggest stories.

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Trump’s Weird DoorDash Stunt Backfires

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Andrew Egger and Catherine Rampell break down Donald Trump’s bizarre McDonald’s DoorDash photo op at the White House, meant to highlight his “no tax on tips” policy. What starts as an economic messaging push quickly goes off the rails when Trump presses a DoorDash driver on her vote and veers into culture war territory. They also dig into what Democrats can learn from this kind of populist messaging and the risks of trying to copy it without losing the plot on good policy.

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Andrew Egger and Catherine Rampell break down Donald Trump’s bizarre McDonald’s DoorDash photo op at the White House, meant to highlight his “no tax on tips” policy. What starts as an economic messaging push quickly goes off the rails when Trump presses a DoorDash driver on her vote and veers into culture war territory. They also dig into what Democrats can learn from this kind of populist messaging and the risks of trying to copy it without losing the plot on good policy.

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JVL and Will Saletan are going live to cover Trump's bizarre posts, including an image of himself as Jesus and a long screed attacking the Pope.

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Trump called into FOX News for an interview to explain the Iran war—and quickly fell apart. Will Saletan methodically breaks down how Trump contradicted himself on Iran’s nuclear program, claimed total victory while admitting ongoing threats, and shrugged off rising gas prices and the economic fallout.

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Trump called into FOX News for an interview to explain the Iran war—and quickly fell apart. Will Saletan methodically breaks down how Trump contradicted himself on Iran’s nuclear program, claimed total victory while admitting ongoing threats, and shrugged off rising gas prices and the economic fallout.

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Sam Stein is joined by Sen. Chris Coons (D-DE) to discuss the escalating situation in Iran, warning that after 42 days and tens of billions of dollars, the U.S. is no better off and still lacks a clear strategy. Coons raises concerns about congressional authorization, potential backdoor war funding, and the risks of deeper escalation. The conversation also turns to domestic politics, including Pam Bondi and concerns about a more aggressive and loyal next attorney general under Trump. Finally, they discuss Melania Trump’s unusual press conference calling for more Epstein hearings.
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Sam Stein is joined by Sen. Chris Coons (D-DE) to discuss the escalating situation in Iran, warning that after 42 days and tens of billions of dollars, the U.S. is no better off and still lacks a clear strategy. Coons raises concerns about congressional authorization, potential backdoor war funding, and the risks of deeper escalation. The conversation also turns to domestic politics, including Pam Bondi and concerns about a more aggressive and loyal next attorney general under Trump. Finally, they discuss Melania Trump’s unusual press conference calling for more Epstein hearings.
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Ned Brower from 'The Pitt' and Karen Tumlin of the Justice Action Center join The Bulwark's hosts Sonny Bunch and Adrian Carrasquillo to discuss the impact of the "ICE episode"—and the Trump policies that it shone a light on. They discuss the reality behind ICE showing up in hospitals, what changed in U.S. policy, and why viewers—and real doctors and nurses—responded so strongly.

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Ned Brower from 'The Pitt' and Karen Tumlin of the Justice Action Center join The Bulwark's hosts Sonny Bunch and Adrian Carrasquillo to discuss the impact of the "ICE episode"—and the Trump policies that it shone a light on. They discuss the reality behind ICE showing up in hospitals, what changed in U.S. policy, and why viewers—and real doctors and nurses—responded so strongly.

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Tim Miller gives his take on the heated CNBC Squawk Box exchange between Pete Buttigieg and Joe Kernen over Trump’s economy, gas prices, and the war in Iran. Kernen tries to argue with weak MAGA talking points about Biden-era inflation and partisan blame, but Buttigieg pushes back so well that Kernen's co-host literally laughs at him. Tim breaks down why Buttigieg’s approach is resonating and how bad it is for the state of pro-Trump economic defenses.

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Tim Miller gives his take on the heated CNBC Squawk Box exchange between Pete Buttigieg and Joe Kernen over Trump’s economy, gas prices, and the war in Iran. Kernen tries to argue with weak MAGA talking points about Biden-era inflation and partisan blame, but Buttigieg pushes back so well that Kernen's co-host literally laughs at him. Tim breaks down why Buttigieg’s approach is resonating and how bad it is for the state of pro-Trump economic defenses.

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Catherine Rampell and JVL are going live to talk about the the week's financial news.

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Catherine Rampell and JVL are going live to talk about the the week's financial news.

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Sam Stein and Will Sommer dive into the latest MAGA meltdown: a rumored DOJ probe into conservative influencers allegedly taking foreign money. From imagined arrests to twisted punishments, MAGA figures from Benny Johnson and Catturd to Laura Loomer are eating their own, accusing each other while ignoring the real ideological splits.
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Sam Stein and Will Sommer dive into the latest MAGA meltdown: a rumored DOJ probe into conservative influencers allegedly taking foreign money. From imagined arrests to twisted punishments, MAGA figures from Benny Johnson and Catturd to Laura Loomer are eating their own, accusing each other while ignoring the real ideological splits.
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Andrew Egger and Will Sommer break down Melania Trump’s bizarre and unexpected White House statement on Jeffrey Epstein. After speaking and not answering any questions, Melania forcefully denied any involvement with Epstein, while also calling past email exchanges with Ghislaine Maxwell as “casual” and “trivial.” We dig into the timing, the messaging, and what could be driving this sudden need to get ahead of the Epstein story inside Trump world.
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Andrew Egger and Will Sommer break down Melania Trump’s bizarre and unexpected White House statement on Jeffrey Epstein. After speaking and not answering any questions, Melania forcefully denied any involvement with Epstein, while also calling past email exchanges with Ghislaine Maxwell as “casual” and “trivial.” We dig into the timing, the messaging, and what could be driving this sudden need to get ahead of the Epstein story inside Trump world.
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Published 2026-04-09

Did the Pentagon Threaten the Vatican?

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JVL talks with Ed Condon of The Pillar about the escalating clash between the Vatican and the Trump administration after Pope Leo’s comments on the Iran war. They unpack the shocking report that a Vatican ambassador was confronted by the Pentagon, JD Vance’s awkward response, and why the American pope likely won’t be visiting the U.S. anytime soon.

Read more from JVL: https://www.thebulwark.com/p/the-department-of-war-vs-the-pope

Read more from Ed Condon: https://www.pillarcatholic.com/p/when-will-leo-come-home

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JVL talks with Ed Condon of The Pillar about the escalating clash between the Vatican and the Trump administration after Pope Leo’s comments on the Iran war. They unpack the shocking report that a Vatican ambassador was confronted by the Pentagon, JD Vance’s awkward response, and why the American pope likely won’t be visiting the U.S. anytime soon.

Read more from JVL: https://www.thebulwark.com/p/the-department-of-war-vs-the-pope

Read more from Ed Condon: https://www.pillarcatholic.com/p/when-will-leo-come-home

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Tim Miller joins Nicolle Wallace on MS Now to give his take on the wave of Democratic momentum. From a massive Wisconsin Supreme Court victory to a surprising swing in Georgia, Democrats are seeing major gains even in places Republicans thought were safe. Tim explains why one number matters more than anything right now. A fourteen point shift. If that trend holds, states like Texas, Florida, Iowa, and Alaska could all be in play in the midterms. He also shares what he is hearing from Democratic organizers across the country and why there is still a disconnect between voters who want to help and campaigns that need volunteers.
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Tim Miller joins Nicolle Wallace on MS Now to give his take on the wave of Democratic momentum. From a massive Wisconsin Supreme Court victory to a surprising swing in Georgia, Democrats are seeing major gains even in places Republicans thought were safe. Tim explains why one number matters more than anything right now. A fourteen point shift. If that trend holds, states like Texas, Florida, Iowa, and Alaska could all be in play in the midterms. He also shares what he is hearing from Democratic organizers across the country and why there is still a disconnect between voters who want to help and campaigns that need volunteers.
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Andrew Egger talks with shipping expert Sal Mercogliano about his initial reaction to the ceasefire with Iran and what it really means for global shipping with the Strait of Hormuz. Despite claims that the strait is open, most vessels remain stuck or are forced to navigate Iran’s “toll booth,” creating uncertainty for trade and commerce. Sal explains how Iran’s control could permanently reduce shipping capacity and generate massive revenue for Iran, with ripple effects that may take up to 40 weeks to fully recover. We also cover the humanitarian situation for mariners, the economic stakes for oil and global trade, and what the US and other countries are doing or not doing to respond.

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Andrew Egger talks with shipping expert Sal Mercogliano about his initial reaction to the ceasefire with Iran and what it really means for global shipping with the Strait of Hormuz. Despite claims that the strait is open, most vessels remain stuck or are forced to navigate Iran’s “toll booth,” creating uncertainty for trade and commerce. Sal explains how Iran’s control could permanently reduce shipping capacity and generate massive revenue for Iran, with ripple effects that may take up to 40 weeks to fully recover. We also cover the humanitarian situation for mariners, the economic stakes for oil and global trade, and what the US and other countries are doing or not doing to respond.

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Tom Nichols join Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling (Ret.) and Ben Parker to discuss the bleak reality of Trump’s Iran war—where early strikes gave way to confusion, a shaky “ceasefire,” and no clear endgame. They explain how tactical hits didn’t translate into strategic success, why the U.S. may be in a worse position now, and what this reveals about decision-making, military leadership, and the absence of a real plan.

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Tom Nichols join Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling (Ret.) and Ben Parker to discuss the bleak reality of Trump’s Iran war—where early strikes gave way to confusion, a shaky “ceasefire,” and no clear endgame. They explain how tactical hits didn’t translate into strategic success, why the U.S. may be in a worse position now, and what this reveals about decision-making, military leadership, and the absence of a real plan.

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JVL and Andrew Egger went live reacting to Karoline Leavitt's totally divorced from reality press conference as Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz.

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JVL and Andrew Egger went live reacting to Karoline Leavitt's totally divorced from reality press conference as Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz.

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Rep. Josh Gottheimer joins Tim Miller for a heated debate over the war with Iran—where even pro-war lawmakers admit they still don’t know the plan. They clash over whether weakening Iran justifies the risks, rising costs at home, and the lack of clear objectives, while digging into Trump’s leadership, Israel’s role, and the looming War Powers showdown in Congress.

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Rep. Josh Gottheimer joins Tim Miller for a heated debate over the war with Iran—where even pro-war lawmakers admit they still don’t know the plan. They clash over whether weakening Iran justifies the risks, rising costs at home, and the lack of clear objectives, while digging into Trump’s leadership, Israel’s role, and the looming War Powers showdown in Congress.

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Sam Stein and Will Sommer react to Donald Trump’s shocking post suggesting that an entire Iranian civilization could be wiped out and the rare backlash now emerging from inside MAGA. From Tucker Carlson’s stunning attack on Trump’s rhetoric to reactions from figures like Alex Jones and Candace Owens, the right is showing signs of fracture over the prospect of war with Iran. Even longtime allies are calling Trump’s rhetoric dangerous.

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Sam Stein and Will Sommer react to Donald Trump’s shocking post suggesting that an entire Iranian civilization could be wiped out and the rare backlash now emerging from inside MAGA. From Tucker Carlson’s stunning attack on Trump’s rhetoric to reactions from figures like Alex Jones and Candace Owens, the right is showing signs of fracture over the prospect of war with Iran. Even longtime allies are calling Trump’s rhetoric dangerous.

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Andrew Egger and Bill Kristol are going live at 10 am ET to cover the morning's big news items.

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Andrew Egger and Bill Kristol are going live at 10 am ET to cover the morning's big news items.

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Sam Stein and Will Sommer are going live to discuss the significant MAGA pushback against Trump's Easter post about bombing Iran's civilian infrastructure, the Jonathan Majors filming incident with The Daily Wire, and more.
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Sam Stein and Will Sommer are going live to discuss the significant MAGA pushback against Trump's Easter post about bombing Iran's civilian infrastructure, the Jonathan Majors filming incident with The Daily Wire, and more.
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Tim Miller takes on Donald Trump’s Easter morning threats to bomb Iran’s bridges, power grid, and energy infrastructure—and his claim he could “blow everything up” if a deal isn’t reached.

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Tim Miller takes on Donald Trump’s Easter morning threats to bomb Iran’s bridges, power grid, and energy infrastructure—and his claim he could “blow everything up” if a deal isn’t reached.

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