Morbid

It's another installment of Listener Tales! This one is amazing, guys. We have clowns, potential kidnappings, a dead guy named Johnny, a protective English ghost, a hell demon who is just here to help and so much more. Come on in, the water is spooky as hell. 



TRIGGER WARNING

In the story about Johnny the dead guy, there is mention of dogs fighting and getting hurt. It's not super descriptive or gruesome at all, but we love animals and know that can be a little too much for some people. 



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In this Ash-tastic Mini Morbid, we discuss the truly senseless and tragic murder of actress Rebecca Schaeffer. On July 18, 1989 Robert Bardo stalked and eventually ended the life of a star that was truly on the rise. Although no one else is to blame for his decent into homicidal madness, his mental health and the lack of help he received for it seemed to play a big role in this horrific crime.



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For most of his life, Jeffrey Epstein was a mystery-- who he was, how he made his money, and how he got away with horrific crimes for so many years. The Mysterious Mr. Epstein explores how Epstein was able to use his wealth to buy status and credibility, to buy power, and ultimately to buy himself freedom from justice. From the network that brought you Dirty John. Listen now at Wondery.fm/morbid

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We kept you hanging but here it is! The conclusion to one of the most puzzling and shocking crimes out there. When we left you last, Brittany Norwood's story was starting to get shaky, but can anyone really believe she had something to do with Jayna Murray's brutal attack and murder?



Sources:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/crime-scene/post/jayna-murray-alive-during-322-injuries-prosecutor/2011/11/02/gIQAtVxgfM_blog.html



https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/woman-convicted-in-lululemon-murder-wants-new-trial/33734/



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2057040/Brittany-Norwood-guilty-Lululemon-yoga-worker-Jayna-Murrays-murder.html

The Yoga Store Murder: The Shocking True Account of the Lululemon Athletica Killing By Dan Morse
 



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In this two parter, we will be talking about the brutal murder of Jayna Murray in a Bethesda, Maryland LuLuLemon store. This case is not as it seems and the twists will have you questioning everything.





Sources:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/crime-scene/post/jayna-murray-alive-during-322-injuries-prosecutor/2011/11/02/gIQAtVxgfM_blog.html



https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/woman-convicted-in-lululemon-murder-wants-new-trial/33734/



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2057040/Brittany-Norwood-guilty-Lululemon-yoga-worker-Jayna-Murrays-murder.html

The Yoga Store Murder: The Shocking True Account of the Lululemon Athletica Killing By Dan Morse

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This one is a real head scratcher. Jessica Johnson, a 37 year old single mother,  is found hanging from a mailbox in broad daylight. Police immediately label it a bizarre suicide but almost all of the evidence points to something much more sinister.



The Facebook page Jessica's mother Linda set up:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Interest/What-happened-to-Jessica-Johnson-886316114880842/



Elly Vikere's video about this case:

https://youtu.be/pr2dAkY85AU?fbclid=IwAR1bERyewfRQpm1vXfohObJzgkR6iiegreQIC_DWad_jSXb_NXvEKcpEUao



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It's Alaina's science corner time again! With Ash on a quick vacation and new baby Morbid finally here, our schedules have been crazy. So what better time for another solo science adventure with Alaina. Tonight, we discuss the science of fear. Why do some people love frightening things and others actively avoid them? We discuss the psychology as well as the biological factors at play here while also talking about extreme haunted houses and the level of commitment to a love of fear that they require.

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Audioboom presents A Life Lived, a podcast that chronicles the lives of some of the most famous and fascinating deceased celebrities. Each Monday, journalist Stephanie Okupniak will speak with those closest to the star to get their most personal stories. Be it Amy Winehouse, David Bowie or Stan Lee, no one is out of reach. Check out A Life Lived on Apple Podcasts or anywhere you stream podcasts.

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We are back with another installment of your crazy ass tales, guys! We asked for them and you delivered in spades. Not only was this episode was recorded hours before baby Morbid entered our lives but it also has dead bodies in sheds, ghosts who fold your bedding, someone getting slapped in the face with a knife and some truly touching tales of loved ones from beyond the grave. Come on in, the water is insane and Ash cries in the episode.

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Mondays don't rank high on everyone's list but in 1979 Brenda Ann Spencer took this cliche to a horrifically violent place. With 2 dead and 9 injured, she had one simple reason for her rampage; "I just don't like Mondays". 



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It's finally here! We have threatened to share your listener tales of true crime and general spookiness for over a year now and we have finally done it. In Episode 1 of Listener Tales, we are going to hear about a Pet Cemetery cat, a trip into the Black Forest in Germany, a couple of terrifying ghosts, an unsolved child murder and a near miss with a machete. It's intense, it's hilarious at times and it will probably give you nightmares. Come on in!



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It's a historical mini! This week's tiny Morbid is a good old fashioned mystery/whodunit. After a long journey through the hellfire that was Dennis Rader, I think we can all use something lighter and possible politically charged murder is just the ticket. The Princes in the Tower takes us back to Tudor England when there was a real life game of thrones happening and sometimes things and often people got in the way of throne succession.



Sources:

https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofEngland/The-Princes-in-the-Tower/



https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/princes-tower-will-ultimate-cold-case-finally-be-solved-after-more-500-years-10466190.html



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It's finally here! The final chapter of our Dennis Rader saga has arrived and this one is the longest yet. In this crescendo, we will take you through his final murders, his 10 year downtime and his eventually resurfacing and capture. It's been real but holy hell are we happy to be done with Dennis. Get out of my head, you loser. 



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In today's installment of "DENNIS IS THE WORST", we cover the horrific murders of Kathryn Bright and Shirley Vian as well as talk about Dennis' Paraphiliac tendencies and how his narcissistic behavior led him to take ridiculous measures to insert himself into the unsolved murders. 



Katherine Ramsland’s book:

https://www.amazon.com/Confession-Serial-Killer-Untold-Dennis/dp/1611688418

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This is an Ash-centric Mini and it is a heartbreaker. 15 year old Seath Jackson was ruthlessly ambushed by his peers, some of which he had considered friends. His murder was cold, calculated and brutal. 



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Yes, this is a long episode but this loser has a lot of layers to peel back. In Part 1, we talk about Dennis Rader's childhood, his marriage and his first foray into the world of Bind, Torture, Kill. It's a bumpy and weird ride, guys. Dennis Rader is a strange and frustrating case. 



There is description of two children who were murdered in this episode. We announce it and give ample time to skip if this is something you are not comfortable listening to!



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This story is truly unbelievable. Emergency Room nurse of 30 years, Susan Kuhnhausen (who now goes by Susan Walters) could have easily become the victim of a murder for hire plot but instead, she used every bit of her knowledge, experience and wits to survive. This story will stick with you in a good way.



Susan, if you are listening, you are a legend.



Sources:

https://www.wweek.com/news/2016/08/17/a-hit-man-came-to-kill-susan-kuhnhausen-she-survived-he-didnt/



https://allthatsinteresting.com/susan-kuhnhausen



https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2014/04/woman_who_fatally_strangled_hi.html



https://kpic.com/news/local/man-who-hired-hit-man-to-kill-wife-dies-in-prison



https://www.cbsnews.com/news/intruder-killed-by-nurse-was-hit-man/

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We love a good, creepy case from the 40s in here, don't we? The strange, tragic murder of Hallie Illingworth is fascinating for one big reason, and that reason is saponification. Trust us, this one has it all....science, history and corpse wax. 



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Sources:

https://www.myolympicpark.com/park/the-lady-of-crescent-lake



https://morbidology.com/the-lady-of-the-lake-hallie-illingworth/



https://www.thevintagenews.com/2018/04/06/lady-of-the-lake-2/



https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/saponification

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In Ash's Alaina-length Mini Morbid, she bravely took on the heartbreaking mystery of Susan Powell's disappearance and the murder of her two beautiful boys. It's one part mystery, one part horrific Texas Chainsaw Massacre family dynamic and one part absolutely devastating murder/suicide. This is a tough one but it will have you engrossed from beginning to end. 



This episode contains the death of children, please use discretion!



The unbelievably infuriating 911 call we mentioned that the social worker made in a desperate attempt to save Josh Powell's two sons from their father: https://youtu.be/qrfqCGeDXXE

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It's Albert DeSalvo time, guys. In the conclusion to our dive into the Boston Strangler murder spree, we discuss Albert's childhood, his confessions and whether or not we think he did it at all.



One big take away is that it was dark in there. Don't worry, you'll get it.



Sources:

The Boston Strangler by Gerold Frank



https://abcnews.go.com/US/boston-strangler-case-solved-50-years/story?id=19640699



https://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/12/us/dna-evidence-identified-in-boston-strangler-case.html

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It's an Alaina Mini Morbid, which means it is longer than an average full length episode. Trust us, it is worth it because this case is a truly horrific but endlessly fascinating look into the mind of a secretly troubled young boy who fooled absolutely everyone in his life. Unfortunately, it was young, precious, vivacious Maddie Clifton was on the receiving end of his break from reality. 

TRIGGER WARNING

This case involves the death of a child and it is hard to hear. We warn ahead of time when it will be discussed, so you can skip accordingly if you feel like you need to! 



Sources:

Kids who Kill: Joshua Phillips: True Crime Press Series 1, Book 1 by Kathryn McMaster

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It's here! Part 2 of our deep dive into the most frustrating series of murders to ever hit our hometown is here early. In this episode, we cover the last six murder attributed to this serial killing monster, we discuss the psychology behind strangulation, the physiology behind strangulation and also reveal a bit about the guy who confessed to it all: Albert DeSalvo. 

THIS EPISODE CONTAINS GRAPHIC DESCRIPTIONS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT



Sources:

The Boston Strangler by Gerold Frank



https://abcnews.go.com/US/boston-strangler-case-solved-50-years/story?id=19640699



https://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/12/us/dna-evidence-identified-in-boston-strangler-case.html

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It's our hometown murder time! We split this case into parts because there is truly a lot to unpack and we thought our beloved Boston deserved our time and attention. In Part 1, we take a look at the first 6 victims of The Boston Strangler(s) and set ourselves up to talk about the last 7, the psychology behind these crimes, as well as Albert DeSalvo's infamous confession in Part 2.  This is a wild ride, so we suggest you hang on to your. butts and leave your Yankees hats at home.



THIS EPISODE CONTAINS GRAPHIC DESCRIPTIONS OF SEXUAL ASSAULT



Sources:

The Boston Strangler by Gerold Frank



https://abcnews.go.com/US/boston-strangler-case-solved-50-years/story?id=19640699



https://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/12/us/dna-evidence-identified-in-boston-strangler-case.html

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Diane Downs is an evil monster. Straight up, this woman is one of the all time worst. Ash's Mini Morbid will take us down her dark path and out the other side where we will all probably meet for a drink because, damn Diane.

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In the final installment of our Bridgewater Triangle series, we take a look at a creepy rock quarry where ghosts and jump to their undeaths, some spooky UFO sightings and finish it off with the horrific murder of Mary Lou Arruda and the cult murders perpetrated by Carl Drew and Robin Murphy. This place is wild, guys. Strap in.

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This case has always haunted Alaina and it felt like the right time to let it loose. The brutal murders of Joseph Odom and Dr. Charles Scudder were senseless and horrific. Get ready for some frustration and Satanic Panic because this tale is full of both. 



Sources:

https://allthatsinteresting.com/corpsewood-manor-murders



https://the-line-up.com/corpsewood-manor



https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/corpsewood-manor

The Corpsewood Manor Murders in North Georgia by Amy Petulla

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In this first installment of a mini-series concentrating on the bizarre and sinister happenings in Massachusetts' Bridgewater Triangle, we go over the history of this seemingly cursed land and some of the more paranormal aspects of the triangle. Next week, we dive into some gruesome crimes that have occurred within the area as well. Hold onto your butts because Massachusetts is crazy, guys.

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In our really long conclusion to this head scratcher, we can't promise a neatly tied up ending, but we can promise that you will be much better equipped to formulate your own thoughts about what happened the night that Phoebe Handsjuk met her tragic end. We discuss the night of her death further, the reactions of those closest to her and dive into the most bonkers police investigation and coroner's inquest that you could ever imagine. This is a crazy ride, mates. 



Sources:

Into the Darkness: the mysterious death of Phoebe Handsjuk by Robin Bowles


https://members.huntakiller.com/blog-articles/2017/11/1/the-garbage-chute-mystery-the-near-impossible-death-of-phoebe-handsjuk

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Come on down to Alabama where Jesse “Madison” Holton is raising hell, keeping his parents on their toes and about to take a trip to juvie. That is, until his parents are both killed in what he claims was a tragic murder/suicide. Was it as it seemed or did a troubled teen rid himself of what he saw as the problem? This is one that we still can’t quite figure out.

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It’s another Australian madness episode!

In this 2 part series, we will take a deep dive into the mysterious, gruesome and tragic death of Phoebe Handsjuk. The vibrant, beautiful and talented 23 year old died horrifically when she somehow plunged from a 12th floor garbage shoot in a luxury apartment building, all the way onto the bottom floor, where she passed through a compactor before being spat out in a scene straight out of a horror film.

Part 1 will dissect her early life, her tumultuous relationship and her tragic death. Stay tuned for Part 2 where we go deeper into her death, the physics of it all and her family and friends’ never-ending mission to find out the truth.



Sources:

Into the Darkness: the mysterious death of Phoebe Handsjuk by Robin Bowles


https://members.huntakiller.com/blog-articles/2017/11/1/the-garbage-chute-mystery-the-near-impossible-death-of-phoebe-handsjuk

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This story is one that needs to be told. Jennifer Morey survived everyone’s worst nightmare by using her strength, will and a little help from a brilliant and composed 911 dispatcher. This is a terrifying tale but we promise it has a happy ending.



Sources:

https://www.houstonpress.com/news/false-sense-of-security-6587121



I Survived Season 1

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This is just good, old western fun. By fun, we mean complete carnage and horror. Come back to the 1800s with us as we travel to early America’s humble beginnings where one family systematically butchered travelers who mistook their predatory existence for kindness. The Bloody Benders is a trip worth taking, but just don’t sit at the table when they forcibly suggest it to you. Don’t do it.



Sources:

https://www.legendsofamerica.com/ks-benders/



https://allthatsinteresting.com/bloody-benders



https://the-line-up.com/the-bloody-benders

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I know we have slammed you with a couple of truly heavy cases and this one is definitely tough as well, but what sets this one apart is the ending. While it’s by no means a truly happy tale, there is a sense of satisfaction in the end.

Angela Samota was a brilliant and vivacious college student whose life was tragically cut short when she was raped and murdered in her home in 1984. The investigation that follows takes some twists and turns before ending up at a shocking conclusion that proves no one can stop a determined best friend.



Sources:

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2016/04/13/man-on-death-row-for-1984-rape-murder-of-smu-student-loses-appeal/



https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-44470377



https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/crime/man-found-guilty-in-1984-slaying-of-smu-student/287-411182273

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

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Welcome back for Part 2 of the horrifying case of Jasmine Richardson and Jeremy Steinke. In this installment, we discuss the interrogations, the trials and the sentencing for these two idiots. Remain prepared, because it stays awful until the end.



Sources:

https://www.mamamia.com.au/jasmine-richardson/



https://allthatsinteresting.com/jasmine-richardson

Runaway Devil: How Forbidden Love Drove a 12-Year-Old to Murder Her Family by Robert Remington

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/jasmine-richardson-walks-free-a-decade-after-she-and-boyfriend-massacred-her-family/TDLBX4NMVXCY5UGVSRISBITUTE/

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This was an unexpected two-parter but the details of this absolutely bonkers and tragic tale were too fascinating to neglect. In Part 1 we cover the downward spiral of 12 year-old Jasmine Richardson and her plummet into darkness after meeting self professed 300 year-old werewolf, Jeremy Steinke. We end this first part with the tragic murders of Jasmine’s family. Fair warning, there is a child involved in this horrific case.

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Sources:

https://www.mamamia.com.au/jasmine-richardson/



https://allthatsinteresting.com/jasmine-richardson

Runaway Devil: How Forbidden Love Drove a 12-Year-Old to Murder Her Family by Robert Remington

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It’s time, friends. It’s time to chat about Netflix’s Extremely Wicked, Shocking Evil and Vile. What did the Ted Bundy flick get right, what did it get wrong and would we recommend it? Contains spoilers.

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

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Guys, it happened. Ash scared the hell out of Alaina. In this Ash-centric Mini Morbid episode, we take a look into the bizarre, spooky and tragic tale of Daniel LaPlante who hides in your wall and wears your makeup. Seriously, just sledgehammer your house now because this case will have you questioning if insulation is worth it.

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

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Here we are, back again to go even deeper into the enigma that is Israel Keyes. This guy was a true monster and the details of his confessed crimes seem almost too horrific to be real. In Part 2, we go deeper into his three murders that we mentioned in Part 1 and we also discuss his motivations, his quirks and plug a great investigative podcast about this case, True Crime Bullshit. Come on in, the water is murky and poisonous.



Sources:

https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/crime-courts/2018/05/18/unsealed-interviews-detail-two-lives-of-alaska-serial-killer-israel-keyes/



https://abcnews.go.com/US/serial-killer-israel-keyes-suicide-letter-creepy-ode/story?id=18421558

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Israel Keyes is one of those cases that will have you wondering why he isn't talked about more when it comes to prolific and BRUTAL serial killers. Using a home base in Anchorage, Alaska, this douche rocket took lives all over the lower states on a killing spree that spanned miles and years. His patience, planning and savagery are honestly unmatched. In Part 1 we will take a look at his religious upbringing, some of his weird self imposed rules and three of the confirmed murders attributed to his reign of terror. Stay tuned for Part 2 where this dive goes deep.
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This is an Alaina "Mini", so it is not mini in the slightest but trust us, it is well worth the time. The tragic, twisting and truly horrifying tale of 22 year old Chelsea Bruck's disappearance from a massive Halloween party in Monroe Country, Michigan in 2014 will keep you guessing and unfortunately, it will leave you angry as hell.       Visit Murder Apparel and use our code MORBID for a 25% discount on your order Check out KillerTrace and use our code MORBID2018 for discount on your order



Sources:

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2016/11/02/chelsea-bruck-murder-daniel-clay/93198642/



https://www.monroenews.com/news/20170508/chelsea-bruck-case-it-all-started-with-halloween-party



https://www.toledoblade.com/local/courts/2017/05/10/Michigan-man-describes-finding-body-of-Chelsea-Bruck/stories/20170510164



https://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/2017/07/judge_to_killer_of_chelsea_bru.html

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In the conclusion to our deep dive into the death of Kurt Cobain, we talk about the crime scene in more depth, the events leading up to Kurt's eventual discovery, Courtney Love's possible role and the investigation that still has us scratching our heads. Did Kurt die by his own hand that day in his Seattle greenhouse, or was someone else behind the shotgun?
This case is a real mystery....or is it?

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

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Christine Paolilla was the "ugly" duckling who blossomed into an "irresistible" swan, thanks to new friends Rachael Koloroutis and Tiffany Rowell who took the struggling new girl in school under their wings. Suddenly Christine had friends, popularity and a new boyfriend Chris Snyder. But, there are people in this world who truly bite the hands that feed them and Christine did just that. This Mini Morbid may make you think twice about who you trust.

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Ash is back, guys! Rejoice with us and also get super bummed out because it has been 25 years since the world lost a certain musical icon. In this two-parter, we will begin by diving into the legendary Kurt Cobain's childhood, rise to fame with Nirvana , meeting and spawning with Courtney Love and his tragic downfall.
Stay tuned for Part 2 where we theorize what actually happened to Kurt and talk more about Courtney Love, the crime scene and the physics behind that supposedly self inflicted shotgun blast.

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It's all Alaina today guys and she is giving you the dirty details about what happens when we die, how corpses are identified in various states of decomposition and what makes Dr. Bill Bass' Body Farm so unbelievably fascinating. Hope you like maggots, weirdos. Because...they are going to eat you someday.

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16 year old Jason Sweeney was a sweet, kind, hard working kid with a bright future. Unfortunately, Jason also unknowingly surrounded himself with  jealous,violent people who posed as his friends only to end it all for him. This case is brutal.



Sources:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2003-06-29-0306290275-story.html



https://www.inquirer.com/philly/news/20150220_Man_resentenced_to_life_without_parole_in_the_brutal_2003_slaying_of_Fishtown_teen.html



http://malefactorsregister.com/wp/beyond-redemption/



https://tulsaworld.com/archive/national-briefs-boy-slain-after-being-lured-to-field-by-girlfriend/article_b6b2e5f4-957d-598d-b3e7-389772f8ceed.html

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In the conclusion of this disgusting story, Ash and Alaina discuss Kristen French and Leslie Mahaffy's tragic last days and lament over The Deal With The Devil. Things don't get any better in this half of the tale, but at least Karla has jowls now.



Sources:

Invisible Darkness: The Strange Case Of Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka by Stephen Williams

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You may know this name from a larger scandal but Crystal Mangum went down a dark path that ended in jail time. Take a listen to her story in Ash's Mini Morbid.

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Canadians, you know this case all too well. It is vile, horrific and unjust to say the least. Karla Homolka and her husband Paul Bernardo AKA "The Scarborough Rapist" terrorized and murdered young women in Ontario during the late 80s/early 90s, including Karla's own younger sister, until they were finally stopped and locked up for good....at least one of them was. In this two part investigation into their life and crimes, things are definitely going to get uncomfortable and disturbing. So, listener beware. We will give plenty of warning when things are going to get brutal.



Sources:

Invisible Darkness: The Strange Case Of Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka by Stephen Williams

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

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Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

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For Alaina's Mini Morbid, we will take a look at the baffling case of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon. After embarking on a philanthropic journey to Central America from the Netherlands, both young women went missing in the Panama jungle in 2014. When scant remains of the missing women were found some time later, along with cell phones that called for help several times and a camera with spooky photos, the case took a turn from confusing to scary. What happened to Kris and Lisanne out there?



Sources:

https://www.elitereaders.com/photos-tourists-mysteriously-disappeared/



https://allthatsinteresting.com/kris-kremers-lisanne-froon



https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-lost-girls-of-panama-the-full-story

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

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Countess Elizabeth Bathory died in 1614 but the legends surrounding her life and crimes continue to live and breathe today. Perhaps better known as "The Blood Countess" today, she is possibly one of the most prolific serial killers to exist in history. Or was she a powerful woman who was taken down by those around who for political and financial gain? The facts are more terrifying than the myths in this case, guys. Drain your bath tub, grab one of your castle staff members and get ready for some coagulation because Elizabeth is bloody terrifying.



A great resource for this episode was "Infamous Lady: The True Story of Countess Erzsebet Bathory" by Kimberly Craft

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