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It’s a lighthearted nightmare in here, weirdos! Morbid is a true crime, creepy history and all things spooky podcast hosted by an autopsy technician and a hairstylist. Join us for a heavy dose of research with a dash of comedy thrown in for flavor. Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Morbid ad-free. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus.
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Published 2023-07-31

The Murder of Jennifer Corbin- Part 1

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When Gwinnett County sheriff’s officers responded to a call about a shooting at the home of Dr. Barton Corbin on the morning of December 4, 2004, they discovered the body of the doctor’s wife, Jennifer Corbin, dead from what appeared to be a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Within a few days, however, investigators learned some things about Bart Corbin that led them to believe that the thirty-three-year-old mother of two may not have taken her own life.


Thank you so much to David White for research assistance :)

References:

Atlanta Journal Constitution. 2006. "Timeline of events in Barton Corbin's case." The Atlanta Journal Constitution, September 17.


Bentley, Rosalind. 2004. "Corbin arrest is 'hard'." The Atlanta Journal-Constituion , December 23.


Bentley, Rosalind, and Lateef Mungin. 2006. "Barton Corbin case: How they nailed him." The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, September 17.


Bentley, Rosalind, Lateef Mungin, and Beth Warren. 2006. "Guilty guilty: Corbin pleads." The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, September 16.


Bruner, Tasgola Karla. 2004. "The Corbin case: Med-school girlfriend was fearful." Atlanta Journal-Constitution, December 16.


—. 2004. "Parallels revive case of Augusta tragedy." The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, December 13.


—. 2004. "Similarities in 'suicides' are haunting ." The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, December 16.


Bruner, Tasgola Karla, and John Ghirardini. 2004. "Dentist main 'focus'." The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, December 13.


Glatt, John. 2007. The Doctor's Wife: A True Story of Marriage, Deception and Two Grusom Deaths. New York, NY: St. Martin's Press.


Hansen, Jane. 2006. "Dolly's truth: To her family, her death in 1990 was never a mystery." The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, October 15.


Mungin, Lateef. 2004. "Dacula man sought after wife's shooting." The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, December 8.


—. 2004. "Death called homicide, not suicide." The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, December 8.


—. 2004. "Dentist's kin to testify before grand jury today." The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, December 15.


Rankin, Bill, and Bill Topry. 2005. "Corbin faces double danger." The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, January 9.


Stafford, Rob. 2006. Death and the Dentist. October 18. Accessed June 25, 2023. https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna15253153

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Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

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When Gwinnett County sheriff’s officers responded to a call about a shooting at the home of Dr. Barton Corbin on the morning of December 4, 2004, they discovered the body of the doctor’s wife, Jennifer Corbin, dead from what appeared to be a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Within a few days, however, investigators learned some things about Bart Corbin that led them to believe that the thirty-three-year-old mother of two may not have taken her own life.


Thank you so much to David White for research assistance :)

References:

Atlanta Journal Constitution. 2006. "Timeline of events in Barton Corbin's case." The Atlanta Journal Constitution, September 17.


Bentley, Rosalind. 2004. "Corbin arrest is 'hard'." The Atlanta Journal-Constituion , December 23.


Bentley, Rosalind, and Lateef Mungin. 2006. "Barton Corbin case: How they nailed him." The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, September 17.


Bentley, Rosalind, Lateef Mungin, and Beth Warren. 2006. "Guilty guilty: Corbin pleads." The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, September 16.


Bruner, Tasgola Karla. 2004. "The Corbin case: Med-school girlfriend was fearful." Atlanta Journal-Constitution, December 16.


—. 2004. "Parallels revive case of Augusta tragedy." The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, December 13.


—. 2004. "Similarities in 'suicides' are haunting ." The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, December 16.


Bruner, Tasgola Karla, and John Ghirardini. 2004. "Dentist main 'focus'." The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, December 13.


Glatt, John. 2007. The Doctor's Wife: A True Story of Marriage, Deception and Two Grusom Deaths. New York, NY: St. Martin's Press.


Hansen, Jane. 2006. "Dolly's truth: To her family, her death in 1990 was never a mystery." The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, October 15.


Mungin, Lateef. 2004. "Dacula man sought after wife's shooting." The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, December 8.


—. 2004. "Death called homicide, not suicide." The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, December 8.


—. 2004. "Dentist's kin to testify before grand jury today." The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, December 15.


Rankin, Bill, and Bill Topry. 2005. "Corbin faces double danger." The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, January 9.


Stafford, Rob. 2006. Death and the Dentist. October 18. Accessed June 25, 2023. https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna15253153

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

Listener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025)


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Published 2023-07-27

Listener Tales 76

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It’s Listener tales 76 and guess what!?! It’s brought to you by you, for you, from you, and ALL ABOUT YOU! This installment is all about your spooky haunted demon homes. We’ve got ghosts on ghosts up in here. We don’t know which is the scariest but we do know we would like to never live in these homes. Like…. Ever. If you’ve got a listener tale please send it on over to Morbidpodcast@gmail.com with “Listener Tales” somewhere in the subject line :)

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

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It’s Listener tales 76 and guess what!?! It’s brought to you by you, for you, from you, and ALL ABOUT YOU! This installment is all about your spooky haunted demon homes. We’ve got ghosts on ghosts up in here. We don’t know which is the scariest but we do know we would like to never live in these homes. Like…. Ever. If you’ve got a listener tale please send it on over to Morbidpodcast@gmail.com with “Listener Tales” somewhere in the subject line :)

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

Listener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025)


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Published 2023-07-24

World's End Murders

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On October 15, 1977, seventeen-year-olds Christine Eadie and Helen Scott met some friends at the World’s End Pub in Edinburgh’s Old Town neighborhood to celebrate their new jobs and what they assumed would be the start of their adult lives. The next day, Christine’s body was discovered by hikers near Gosford Bay, while Helen’s body was discovered in a cornfield several miles away. The Lothian and Borders Police mounted a massive investigation to identify and apprehend the killer but, despite their best efforts, evidence was sparse and by the following year the case had gone cold.


The World’s End Murders, as they’d come to be known, became one of Scotland’s most notorious cold cases, until it was reactivated in 1997 in hopes that scientific and technological advances of the previous two decades could lead them to the girls’ killer.


Thank you To the Fabulous Dave White for Research Assistance

References:

Amos, Ilona. 2019. Scots soil experts hit paydirt in old murder cases. February 28. Accessed March 17, 2023. https://www.scotsman.com/news/scots-soil-experts-hit-paydirt-old-murder-cases-2512052.

BBC News. 2007. Victim 'strangled with stocking'. August 29. Accessed March 15, 2023. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/6968530.stm.

—. 2007. World's End father gives evidence. August 30. Accessed March 15, 2023. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/6970429.stm.

Brooks, Lib. 2014. "Serial killer guilty of World's End murders." The Guardian, November 15.

Carrel, Severin. 2007. Trial of World's End murders suspect collapses. September 11. Accessed March 15, 2023. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/sep/11/ukcrime.scotland\.

Carrell, Severin. 2007. "Murder jury told of 'shifty' man." The Guardian, August 30.

Edinburgh Evening News. 1999. "World's End killer probe is wound up." Edinburgh Evening News, March 25.

Gibbons, Katie. 2014. "Accused saw murdered girls as OBJECTs, he tells World's." The Times, November 12.

Howie, Michael, and John Robertson. 2007. "Thirty years ago he murdered two innocent young women." The Scotsman, September 11.

Johnston, David, and Tom Wood. 2008. The World's End Murders: A Thirty-Year Quest for Justice. Edinburgh, Scotland: Birlinn Publishing .

Leask, David. 2014. "Edinburgh World's End murder trial underway." The Herald, October 14.

Leicester Mercury. 1977. "Douible murder hunt starts after teenage girls found dead." Leicester Mercury, October 17: 17.

Macaskill, Mark. 2014. "World's End 'shows killers won't escape'." Sunday Times, November 16.

Mega, Marcello. 1997. "Gangster linked to girls' murder." Sunday Times, March 23.

Robertson, John. 2007. "World's End accused blames brother-in-law." The Scotsman, August 28.

Rodrick, Vic, and Marcello Mega. 2014. "'One-in-billion chance DNA is not Sinclair's'." The Herald, October 25.

The Herald. 2014. "Defendant touched 'most if not all' ligatures, says expert." The Herald, November 5.

—. 2022. "My parents feared for me after World's End horror, says Ian." The Herald, October 17.

—. 2014. Victim of World's End murder struggled as killer tied her up. October 21. Accessed March 15, 2023. https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13185780.victim-worlds-end-murder-struggled-killer-tied/.

The Times. 2007. "Wife of man accused in World's End murder trial agrees to speak." The Times, September 1.

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Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

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Listener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025)


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On October 15, 1977, seventeen-year-olds Christine Eadie and Helen Scott met some friends at the World’s End Pub in Edinburgh’s Old Town neighborhood to celebrate their new jobs and what they assumed would be the start of their adult lives. The next day, Christine’s body was discovered by hikers near Gosford Bay, while Helen’s body was discovered in a cornfield several miles away. The Lothian and Borders Police mounted a massive investigation to identify and apprehend the killer but, despite their best efforts, evidence was sparse and by the following year the case had gone cold.


The World’s End Murders, as they’d come to be known, became one of Scotland’s most notorious cold cases, until it was reactivated in 1997 in hopes that scientific and technological advances of the previous two decades could lead them to the girls’ killer.


Thank you To the Fabulous Dave White for Research Assistance

References:

Amos, Ilona. 2019. Scots soil experts hit paydirt in old murder cases. February 28. Accessed March 17, 2023. https://www.scotsman.com/news/scots-soil-experts-hit-paydirt-old-murder-cases-2512052.

BBC News. 2007. Victim 'strangled with stocking'. August 29. Accessed March 15, 2023. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/6968530.stm.

—. 2007. World's End father gives evidence. August 30. Accessed March 15, 2023. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/6970429.stm.

Brooks, Lib. 2014. "Serial killer guilty of World's End murders." The Guardian, November 15.

Carrel, Severin. 2007. Trial of World's End murders suspect collapses. September 11. Accessed March 15, 2023. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/sep/11/ukcrime.scotland\.

Carrell, Severin. 2007. "Murder jury told of 'shifty' man." The Guardian, August 30.

Edinburgh Evening News. 1999. "World's End killer probe is wound up." Edinburgh Evening News, March 25.

Gibbons, Katie. 2014. "Accused saw murdered girls as OBJECTs, he tells World's." The Times, November 12.

Howie, Michael, and John Robertson. 2007. "Thirty years ago he murdered two innocent young women." The Scotsman, September 11.

Johnston, David, and Tom Wood. 2008. The World's End Murders: A Thirty-Year Quest for Justice. Edinburgh, Scotland: Birlinn Publishing .

Leask, David. 2014. "Edinburgh World's End murder trial underway." The Herald, October 14.

Leicester Mercury. 1977. "Douible murder hunt starts after teenage girls found dead." Leicester Mercury, October 17: 17.

Macaskill, Mark. 2014. "World's End 'shows killers won't escape'." Sunday Times, November 16.

Mega, Marcello. 1997. "Gangster linked to girls' murder." Sunday Times, March 23.

Robertson, John. 2007. "World's End accused blames brother-in-law." The Scotsman, August 28.

Rodrick, Vic, and Marcello Mega. 2014. "'One-in-billion chance DNA is not Sinclair's'." The Herald, October 25.

The Herald. 2014. "Defendant touched 'most if not all' ligatures, says expert." The Herald, November 5.

—. 2022. "My parents feared for me after World's End horror, says Ian." The Herald, October 17.

—. 2014. Victim of World's End murder struggled as killer tied her up. October 21. Accessed March 15, 2023. https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13185780.victim-worlds-end-murder-struggled-killer-tied/.

The Times. 2007. "Wife of man accused in World's End murder trial agrees to speak." The Times, September 1.

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

Listener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025)


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Published 2023-07-20

Michele Neurauter

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On August 28, 2017, police in Corning, NY responded to a call about “suspicious circumstances” at the home of forty-six-year-old mother of three Michele Neurauter. Upon entering the home, the scene appeared to be a fairly straightforward suicide; however, investigators were immediately suspicious that Michele Neurauter had been murdered and the scene had been staged to look like suicide. Michele’s mother, Jeanne Laundy, agreed, and she had a pretty good idea of who would have wanted to kill her daughter: Michele’s ex-husband, Lloyd Neurauter.


Investigators quickly learned Michele and Lloyd Neurauter had been involved in a bitter custody battle for years, and Michele had repeatedly accused her ex-husband of trying to turn their children against her. After months of investigation, Corning detectives discovered that not only had Lloyd Neurauter succeeded in turning his children against Michele, but he had also recruited his second-oldest daughter, Karrie, to help him murder her mother.


Thank you to the debonair David White for research assistance


References:

Kingsley, Jennifer. 2010. "Nickelodeon recognizes Corning woman's blog about parenting." Star-Gazette, June 1: 3.


Moriarty, Erin. 2020. "I had to choose": Did a father brainwash his daughter to help plan her mother's murder?February 8. Accessed June 14, 2023. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/michele-neurauter-murder-i-had-to-choose-did-a-father-brainwash-his-daughter-to-help-plan-to-kill-her-mother/.


Murray, Jeff. 2018. "N. Brunswick man gets life, no parole, for murder." Central New Jersey Home News, December 5: A1.


—. 2018. "Ex-RIT student, dad indicted in Corning slaying." Democrat and Chronicle, February 23: A2.


—. 2018. "RIT student pleads not guilty to murder." Democrat and Chronicle, Janaury 27: A15.


—. 2018. "DA: Murder suspect tried to bribe witness." Star-Gazette, April 13: A1.


—. 2018. "Man pleads guilty to killing wife in Corning." Star-Gazette, October 13: A1.


—. 2018. "Murder suspect pleads guilty." Star-Gazette, March 9: A1.


—. 2018. "Two charged with murder." Star-Gazette, January 26: A1.


NBC. 2019. Dateline: The Ultimatum. New York.


Smith, Jeff. 2020. "Karrie Neurauter, manipulated into helping kill mother, released from prison." The Corning Leader, Janaury 30.


Teurfs, Kathryne. 2020. Daughter who pleaded guilty to helping her father plan to kill her mother released from prison. February 7. Accessed June 15, 2023. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/karrie-neurauter-daughter-who-pleaded-guilty-to-helping-her-father-kill-her-mother-released-from-prison/.

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

Listener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025)


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On August 28, 2017, police in Corning, NY responded to a call about “suspicious circumstances” at the home of forty-six-year-old mother of three Michele Neurauter. Upon entering the home, the scene appeared to be a fairly straightforward suicide; however, investigators were immediately suspicious that Michele Neurauter had been murdered and the scene had been staged to look like suicide. Michele’s mother, Jeanne Laundy, agreed, and she had a pretty good idea of who would have wanted to kill her daughter: Michele’s ex-husband, Lloyd Neurauter.


Investigators quickly learned Michele and Lloyd Neurauter had been involved in a bitter custody battle for years, and Michele had repeatedly accused her ex-husband of trying to turn their children against her. After months of investigation, Corning detectives discovered that not only had Lloyd Neurauter succeeded in turning his children against Michele, but he had also recruited his second-oldest daughter, Karrie, to help him murder her mother.


Thank you to the debonair David White for research assistance


References:

Kingsley, Jennifer. 2010. "Nickelodeon recognizes Corning woman's blog about parenting." Star-Gazette, June 1: 3.


Moriarty, Erin. 2020. "I had to choose": Did a father brainwash his daughter to help plan her mother's murder?February 8. Accessed June 14, 2023. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/michele-neurauter-murder-i-had-to-choose-did-a-father-brainwash-his-daughter-to-help-plan-to-kill-her-mother/.


Murray, Jeff. 2018. "N. Brunswick man gets life, no parole, for murder." Central New Jersey Home News, December 5: A1.


—. 2018. "Ex-RIT student, dad indicted in Corning slaying." Democrat and Chronicle, February 23: A2.


—. 2018. "RIT student pleads not guilty to murder." Democrat and Chronicle, Janaury 27: A15.


—. 2018. "DA: Murder suspect tried to bribe witness." Star-Gazette, April 13: A1.


—. 2018. "Man pleads guilty to killing wife in Corning." Star-Gazette, October 13: A1.


—. 2018. "Murder suspect pleads guilty." Star-Gazette, March 9: A1.


—. 2018. "Two charged with murder." Star-Gazette, January 26: A1.


NBC. 2019. Dateline: The Ultimatum. New York.


Smith, Jeff. 2020. "Karrie Neurauter, manipulated into helping kill mother, released from prison." The Corning Leader, Janaury 30.


Teurfs, Kathryne. 2020. Daughter who pleaded guilty to helping her father plan to kill her mother released from prison. February 7. Accessed June 15, 2023. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/karrie-neurauter-daughter-who-pleaded-guilty-to-helping-her-father-kill-her-mother-released-from-prison/.

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

Listener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025)


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Published 2023-07-17

The Murder of Teresita Basa

83 min
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On the evening of February 21, 1977, Chicago firefighters responded to a call at the Pine Grove apartment complex. Once they’d extinguished the fire, they discovered the nude body of forty-eight-year-old Teresita Basa with a kitchen knife protruding from her chest. The apartment looked as though it had been ransacked during the commission of what they assumed was a sexual assault or robbery gone wrong. With little evidence or leads to work from, Teresita’s murder investigation quickly went cold.

But then five months later, it seemed like it was Teresita herself who led investigators to discover the man who murdered her. What followed was a truly sensational investigation and trial where not only murder, but belief was up for debate.


References

Boston Globe. 1978. "Did Voice of the Dead Name Murderer?" Boston Globe, March 6: 2.

Decatur Herald. 1979. "Man Pleads Guilty; Named by 'Voice From the Grave'." Decatur Herald, February 23: 9.

O'Brien , John, and Edward Baumann. 1978. "Accused of Murder By a Voice From The Grave." Ebony, June 01: 56-63.

O'Brien, John. 1979. "'Voice From Grave' Case a Mistrial." Chicago Tribune, Janaury 27: 3.

O'Brien, John, and Edward Baumann. 1992. Teresita: The Voice from the Grave. Los Angeles, CA: Bonus Books.

Toledo Blade. 1978. "'Voice From Grave' Suspect Ordered to Trial for Murder." Toledo Blade, September 7: 38.

Warden, Rob. 1978. "'Voice From the Grave' Evokes a Murder Trial." Washington Post, September 17.


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Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

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On the evening of February 21, 1977, Chicago firefighters responded to a call at the Pine Grove apartment complex. Once they’d extinguished the fire, they discovered the nude body of forty-eight-year-old Teresita Basa with a kitchen knife protruding from her chest. The apartment looked as though it had been ransacked during the commission of what they assumed was a sexual assault or robbery gone wrong. With little evidence or leads to work from, Teresita’s murder investigation quickly went cold.

But then five months later, it seemed like it was Teresita herself who led investigators to discover the man who murdered her. What followed was a truly sensational investigation and trial where not only murder, but belief was up for debate.


References

Boston Globe. 1978. "Did Voice of the Dead Name Murderer?" Boston Globe, March 6: 2.

Decatur Herald. 1979. "Man Pleads Guilty; Named by 'Voice From the Grave'." Decatur Herald, February 23: 9.

O'Brien , John, and Edward Baumann. 1978. "Accused of Murder By a Voice From The Grave." Ebony, June 01: 56-63.

O'Brien, John. 1979. "'Voice From Grave' Case a Mistrial." Chicago Tribune, Janaury 27: 3.

O'Brien, John, and Edward Baumann. 1992. Teresita: The Voice from the Grave. Los Angeles, CA: Bonus Books.

Toledo Blade. 1978. "'Voice From Grave' Suspect Ordered to Trial for Murder." Toledo Blade, September 7: 38.

Warden, Rob. 1978. "'Voice From the Grave' Evokes a Murder Trial." Washington Post, September 17.


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Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

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Published 2023-07-13

Bobby Mackey's Music World

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When musician Bobby Mackey opened Bobby Mackey’s Music World in 1978, he had hoped for nothing more than to open a small nightclub where audiences could enjoy the traditional country music he had devoted his life to for decades. Yet before the club was even opened, it was apparent to Bobby, his wife Janet, and manager Carl that whatever the new night club was going to be, it would be anything but normal.

In the decades since it opened, Bobby Mackey’s Music World has gained a reputation, not just as a one of Kentucky’s enduring country western clubs, but as one of America’s supposedly most haunted locations. Indeed, Bobby Mackey’s is said to be the home of several spirits whose lives revolved around, and in some cases ended on the property, including the ghosts of a lovesick showgirl, a headless pregnant woman, and the two Satan-worshipping men who took her head.

Thank you to the glorious David White for research assistance :)

References

Associated Press. 1978. "State to probe fire at club near Newport." Courier-Journal, July 10: 6.

—. 1993. "Legality of lawsuit blaming bar for ghost antics to be decided." Messenger-Inquirer, October 23: 17.

Caraway, Robin. 2006. "Wilder nightclub site has storied past." Cincinnati Post, July 17: 14.

Chicago Chronicle. 1896. "Pearl Bryan's story." Chicago Chronicle, May 10: 33.

Cincinnati Enquirer. 1979. "Kentucky closes Mackey's club, citing faulty wiriing, sprinkler." Cincinnati Enquirer, December 16: 26.

—. 1978. "Wilder police chief wants state to close Hard Rock Cafe." Cincinnati Enquirer, January 17: 17.

Hensley, Douglas. 2005. Hell's Gate: Terror at Bobby Mackey's Music World. Denver, CO: Outskirts Press.

Moores, Lew. 1993. "Court filing by club's lawyer is poetry in motion." Cincinnati Enquirer, October 22: 26.

2005. A Haunting. Television. Directed by Joe Wiecha. Performed by New Dominion Pictures.

Wecker, David. 1991. "Bobby Mackey demon story: truth or bull." Cincinnati Post, July 9: 11.

Wolfson, Andrew. 2022. "A twisted tale: A failed abortion, a beheading and pennies left heads up at a grave." Courier Journal, May 4.

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When musician Bobby Mackey opened Bobby Mackey’s Music World in 1978, he had hoped for nothing more than to open a small nightclub where audiences could enjoy the traditional country music he had devoted his life to for decades. Yet before the club was even opened, it was apparent to Bobby, his wife Janet, and manager Carl that whatever the new night club was going to be, it would be anything but normal.

In the decades since it opened, Bobby Mackey’s Music World has gained a reputation, not just as a one of Kentucky’s enduring country western clubs, but as one of America’s supposedly most haunted locations. Indeed, Bobby Mackey’s is said to be the home of several spirits whose lives revolved around, and in some cases ended on the property, including the ghosts of a lovesick showgirl, a headless pregnant woman, and the two Satan-worshipping men who took her head.

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References

Associated Press. 1978. "State to probe fire at club near Newport." Courier-Journal, July 10: 6.

—. 1993. "Legality of lawsuit blaming bar for ghost antics to be decided." Messenger-Inquirer, October 23: 17.

Caraway, Robin. 2006. "Wilder nightclub site has storied past." Cincinnati Post, July 17: 14.

Chicago Chronicle. 1896. "Pearl Bryan's story." Chicago Chronicle, May 10: 33.

Cincinnati Enquirer. 1979. "Kentucky closes Mackey's club, citing faulty wiriing, sprinkler." Cincinnati Enquirer, December 16: 26.

—. 1978. "Wilder police chief wants state to close Hard Rock Cafe." Cincinnati Enquirer, January 17: 17.

Hensley, Douglas. 2005. Hell's Gate: Terror at Bobby Mackey's Music World. Denver, CO: Outskirts Press.

Moores, Lew. 1993. "Court filing by club's lawyer is poetry in motion." Cincinnati Enquirer, October 22: 26.

2005. A Haunting. Television. Directed by Joe Wiecha. Performed by New Dominion Pictures.

Wecker, David. 1991. "Bobby Mackey demon story: truth or bull." Cincinnati Post, July 9: 11.

Wolfson, Andrew. 2022. "A twisted tale: A failed abortion, a beheading and pennies left heads up at a grave." Courier Journal, May 4.

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Denise Huber- Part 2

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In Part 2, we talk through the killer’s background and troubling history with women in his life. We also go through Denise’s horrific injuries, as well as the investigation and trial that followed.


Thank you to the stupendous David White for research assistance.


References

Associated Press. 1994. "No bail for suspect in bizarre slaying." Arizona Daily Sun, July 21: 10.

Cekola, Anna. 1997. "For Hubers, relief at 'a step in justice, anticipation of next one." Los Angeles Times,

May 23: A24.

Dobruck, Jeremiah. 2016. "The wound that never heals." Los Angeles Times, July 1.

Gomez, James. 1991. "Banner used in search for woman." Los Angeles Times, July 3: 129.

—. 1991. "Denise Huber probably dead, investigator says." Los Angeles Times, October 10: 214.

—. 1991. "Hope keeps a search alive." Los Angeles Times, June 27: 224.

Gomez, James, and Eric Lichtblau. 1991. "Was missing woman victim of foul play." Los Angeles Times,

June 6: 227.

Hernandez, Greg. 1997. "Famalaro defense charges witness is biased ." Los Angeles Times, February 22:

309.

—. 1997. "Famalaro defense rests after trying to refute special circumstances." Los Angeles Times, May

21: B4.

—. 1997. "Famalaro judge unswayed by argument denying kidnapping." Los Angeles Times, May 15: B3.

—. 1997. "Famalaro jury told that the victim had drinks." Los Angeles Times, May 20: B1.

—. 1997. "Famalaro quickly convicted in Huber sex murder case." Los Angeles Times, May 23: 1.

—. 1997. "Killer who froze body sentenced to die." Los Angeles Times, September 6: A24.


—. 1997. "Prosecutor describes stranded motorist's last hours." Los Angeles Times, May 9: A3.

—. 1997. "Unraveling mysteries of Huber case." Los Angeles Times, April 21: 53.

Ko, Mimi. 1992. "Daughter is gone, then cancer hits." Los Angeles Times, November 7: 220.

Lasseter, Don. 1998. Cold Storage: A Killer with a Heart of Ice. New York, NY: Pinnacle Books.

Lindsbaum, Mark. 1991. "Impasse in search from woman doesn't shake faith." Los Angeles Times,

September 8: 408.

Los Angeles Times. 1991. "Abandoned car on freeway spurs search for Newport Beach woman." Los

Angeles Times, June 5: 107.

Pinsky, Mark. 1995. "Famalaro trial delayed until next April." Los Angeles Times, April 11: 136.

Reza, H.G., and Tammy Hyunjoo Kresta. 1994. "Body is identified as Denise Huber." Los Angeles Times,

July 17: 137.

Tabor, Gail. 1994. "Parents' search ends." Arizona Republic, July 18: 1.

The People vs. John Famalaro. 2011. S064306 (Supreme Court of California, July 7).

The People vs. John Famalaro. 2007. S064306 (Supreme Court of the State of California, April 11).

Villa, Judy, and David Schwartz. 1994. "Police fear other victims in home where freezer held woman's

corpse." Arizona Republic, July 18: 1.

Wilgoren, Jodi. 1994. "Famalaro faces sex charges in Huber slaying." Los Angeles Times, September 30:

136.

Yokoi, Iris. 1992. "Family of missing woman still hopeful." Los Angeles Times, June 3: 102.

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In Part 2, we talk through the killer’s background and troubling history with women in his life. We also go through Denise’s horrific injuries, as well as the investigation and trial that followed.


Thank you to the stupendous David White for research assistance.


References

Associated Press. 1994. "No bail for suspect in bizarre slaying." Arizona Daily Sun, July 21: 10.

Cekola, Anna. 1997. "For Hubers, relief at 'a step in justice, anticipation of next one." Los Angeles Times,

May 23: A24.

Dobruck, Jeremiah. 2016. "The wound that never heals." Los Angeles Times, July 1.

Gomez, James. 1991. "Banner used in search for woman." Los Angeles Times, July 3: 129.

—. 1991. "Denise Huber probably dead, investigator says." Los Angeles Times, October 10: 214.

—. 1991. "Hope keeps a search alive." Los Angeles Times, June 27: 224.

Gomez, James, and Eric Lichtblau. 1991. "Was missing woman victim of foul play." Los Angeles Times,

June 6: 227.

Hernandez, Greg. 1997. "Famalaro defense charges witness is biased ." Los Angeles Times, February 22:

309.

—. 1997. "Famalaro defense rests after trying to refute special circumstances." Los Angeles Times, May

21: B4.

—. 1997. "Famalaro judge unswayed by argument denying kidnapping." Los Angeles Times, May 15: B3.

—. 1997. "Famalaro jury told that the victim had drinks." Los Angeles Times, May 20: B1.

—. 1997. "Famalaro quickly convicted in Huber sex murder case." Los Angeles Times, May 23: 1.

—. 1997. "Killer who froze body sentenced to die." Los Angeles Times, September 6: A24.


—. 1997. "Prosecutor describes stranded motorist's last hours." Los Angeles Times, May 9: A3.

—. 1997. "Unraveling mysteries of Huber case." Los Angeles Times, April 21: 53.

Ko, Mimi. 1992. "Daughter is gone, then cancer hits." Los Angeles Times, November 7: 220.

Lasseter, Don. 1998. Cold Storage: A Killer with a Heart of Ice. New York, NY: Pinnacle Books.

Lindsbaum, Mark. 1991. "Impasse in search from woman doesn't shake faith." Los Angeles Times,

September 8: 408.

Los Angeles Times. 1991. "Abandoned car on freeway spurs search for Newport Beach woman." Los

Angeles Times, June 5: 107.

Pinsky, Mark. 1995. "Famalaro trial delayed until next April." Los Angeles Times, April 11: 136.

Reza, H.G., and Tammy Hyunjoo Kresta. 1994. "Body is identified as Denise Huber." Los Angeles Times,

July 17: 137.

Tabor, Gail. 1994. "Parents' search ends." Arizona Republic, July 18: 1.

The People vs. John Famalaro. 2011. S064306 (Supreme Court of California, July 7).

The People vs. John Famalaro. 2007. S064306 (Supreme Court of the State of California, April 11).

Villa, Judy, and David Schwartz. 1994. "Police fear other victims in home where freezer held woman's

corpse." Arizona Republic, July 18: 1.

Wilgoren, Jodi. 1994. "Famalaro faces sex charges in Huber slaying." Los Angeles Times, September 30:

136.

Yokoi, Iris. 1992. "Family of missing woman still hopeful." Los Angeles Times, June 3: 102.

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Denise Huber- Part 1

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On the evening of June 2, 1991, twenty-three-year-old Denise Huber went out to a concert in Inglewood, California with a friend. While driving home after the concert, Denise got a flat tire on the Corona del Mar Freeway, just a few miles from her home in Newport Beach. Two days later, the car was discovered abandoned and Denise was nowhere to be found.

The disappearance of Denise Huber prompted a massive search operation in southern California and garnered considerable media attention, but their efforts turned up nothing. Years later, in 1994, a woman buying paint from a handy man in Dewey, Arizona grew suspicious of the man selling her the paint and reported her hunch to local police, including the man’s license plate number. When they ran the plate, it turned out the truck had been stolen. When they searched the vehicle a week later, investigators discovered a chest freezer in the back of the vehicle. Inside, they found the answer to a case that had stalled for years.

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On the evening of June 2, 1991, twenty-three-year-old Denise Huber went out to a concert in Inglewood, California with a friend. While driving home after the concert, Denise got a flat tire on the Corona del Mar Freeway, just a few miles from her home in Newport Beach. Two days later, the car was discovered abandoned and Denise was nowhere to be found.

The disappearance of Denise Huber prompted a massive search operation in southern California and garnered considerable media attention, but their efforts turned up nothing. Years later, in 1994, a woman buying paint from a handy man in Dewey, Arizona grew suspicious of the man selling her the paint and reported her hunch to local police, including the man’s license plate number. When they ran the plate, it turned out the truck had been stolen. When they searched the vehicle a week later, investigators discovered a chest freezer in the back of the vehicle. Inside, they found the answer to a case that had stalled for years.

Thank you to the talented David White for research assistance.

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On January 24, 2000, sheriff’s deputies in Mentone, Alabama stopped an older model Lincoln with Ohio plates that they suspected was involved in a hit-and-run accident earlier that day. The driver was thirty-seven-year-old Hayward Bissell of Norwalk, Ohio and strapped into the seat beside him was the remains of his twenty-four-year-old girlfriend, Patricia Booher. To the deputies’ horror, Booher’s hand and leg had been severed from her body, her eyes had been gouged out, and her heart and liver had been torn out, but were still in the car. Further investigation revealed that, in addition to Booher’s murder, Bissell had also attempted to kill two other couples on what appeared to be a rampage across two states.


Thank you to the ever so talented David White for research assistance :)



-Schizophrenia & Psychosis Action Alliance -

Website:sczaction.org

Services: Education and support groups


National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI)

Website:nami.org

Services: General resources for mental health


Domestic Violence:

-US Hotline Number: 1(800)-799-7233


-The Battered Women's Justice Project: **We donated to them, I met with them and they are amazing**

Website: BWJP.org

Services: Free legal help


-Center For Domestic Peace

Website: Centerfordomesticpeace.org

Services: Support groups




References

Acton, Andy. 2000. "Secret Service questions man in mutilation case." Birminghm Post-Herald, January 26: 23.

Associated Press. 2002. "Mental illness plea accepted." Atlanta Constitution , February 8: D12.

—. 2000. "Couple honors heroic Labrador retrievers." Birmingham Post-Herald, March 15: 16.

—. 2001. "Man held in mutilation slaying to undergo more mental tests." Macon Telegraph, August 13: 12.

—. 2000. "Police probe mutilation death of woman." The Anniston Star, Janaury 25: 8.

—. 2000. "Suspect in mutilation death of woman to be sent to mental hsopital." The Anniston Star, January 26: 12.

Bradley, Eric. 2000. "Manty native relates tale of terror." Manitowoc Herald-Times, Jul 7: 1.

Columbus Ledger-Enquirer. 2000. "Mental tests urged for slaying suspect." Columbus Ledger-Enquirer, Janaury 27: 14.

Harper, Carol. 2000. "Dismay, disbelief follow mutilation death." Sandusky Register, January 26.

Johnson, Sheila. 2013. Blood Highway. New York, NY: Pinnacle Books.

Nowak, Joe. 2000. "Victim's father in prison for rape." Norwalk Reflector, January 25.

Nowak, Joe, and Jonathan Rickard. 2000. "Suspect has history of violent behavior." Norfolk Reflector, January 25.


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On January 24, 2000, sheriff’s deputies in Mentone, Alabama stopped an older model Lincoln with Ohio plates that they suspected was involved in a hit-and-run accident earlier that day. The driver was thirty-seven-year-old Hayward Bissell of Norwalk, Ohio and strapped into the seat beside him was the remains of his twenty-four-year-old girlfriend, Patricia Booher. To the deputies’ horror, Booher’s hand and leg had been severed from her body, her eyes had been gouged out, and her heart and liver had been torn out, but were still in the car. Further investigation revealed that, in addition to Booher’s murder, Bissell had also attempted to kill two other couples on what appeared to be a rampage across two states.


Thank you to the ever so talented David White for research assistance :)



-Schizophrenia & Psychosis Action Alliance -

Website:sczaction.org

Services: Education and support groups


National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI)

Website:nami.org

Services: General resources for mental health


Domestic Violence:

-US Hotline Number: 1(800)-799-7233


-The Battered Women's Justice Project: **We donated to them, I met with them and they are amazing**

Website: BWJP.org

Services: Free legal help


-Center For Domestic Peace

Website: Centerfordomesticpeace.org

Services: Support groups




References

Acton, Andy. 2000. "Secret Service questions man in mutilation case." Birminghm Post-Herald, January 26: 23.

Associated Press. 2002. "Mental illness plea accepted." Atlanta Constitution , February 8: D12.

—. 2000. "Couple honors heroic Labrador retrievers." Birmingham Post-Herald, March 15: 16.

—. 2001. "Man held in mutilation slaying to undergo more mental tests." Macon Telegraph, August 13: 12.

—. 2000. "Police probe mutilation death of woman." The Anniston Star, Janaury 25: 8.

—. 2000. "Suspect in mutilation death of woman to be sent to mental hsopital." The Anniston Star, January 26: 12.

Bradley, Eric. 2000. "Manty native relates tale of terror." Manitowoc Herald-Times, Jul 7: 1.

Columbus Ledger-Enquirer. 2000. "Mental tests urged for slaying suspect." Columbus Ledger-Enquirer, Janaury 27: 14.

Harper, Carol. 2000. "Dismay, disbelief follow mutilation death." Sandusky Register, January 26.

Johnson, Sheila. 2013. Blood Highway. New York, NY: Pinnacle Books.

Nowak, Joe. 2000. "Victim's father in prison for rape." Norwalk Reflector, January 25.

Nowak, Joe, and Jonathan Rickard. 2000. "Suspect has history of violent behavior." Norfolk Reflector, January 25.


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Listener Tales 75

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Listener Tales 75!!! This installment features a CRAY-CRAY reincarnation story, a husband turned Scooby-Doo villain and ghost turned grandma! If you have a listener tale you’d like to send in please send it to Morbidpodcast@gmail.com

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Listener Tales 75!!! This installment features a CRAY-CRAY reincarnation story, a husband turned Scooby-Doo villain and ghost turned grandma! If you have a listener tale you’d like to send in please send it to Morbidpodcast@gmail.com

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

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Joe Metheny

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On December 15, 1996, Baltimore police discovered the body of twenty-three-year-old Kimberly Spicer buried under a trailer on the property of a pallet factory in the city’s southwest side. Later that day, police arrested Joseph Methainy, a man who lived and worked at the factory where Spicer’s body was discovered. It didn’t take long for police to solidly connect Methainy to the murders of two additional Baltimore women as well. In his wild confessions he claimed massive victim numbers and even cannibalism.


Thanks to Dave White for research assistance!


References

Associated Press. 1997. "Man's trial in slaying of 2 women is postponed; change of venue sought." Baltimore Sun, July 8: 4B.


—. 1996. "Accused killer called fun-loving." Daily Times, December 20: 2.


—. 1997. "Mount Airy scientits finds where the bones are buried." Star-Democrat, February 5: 13.


—. 1998. "Officials: Methainy attempted suicide ." Star-Democrat, March 24: 6.


—. 1996. "'Practical joker' held in 3 slayings." The Capital, December 20: 14.


—. 1997. "Suspected serial killer indicted." The Daily Times, January 29: 2.


Hermann, Peter. 1996. "Suspect charged in 2 more slayings." Baltimore Sun, December 19: 25.


—. 1996. "Suspect gives police details of 4 slayings." Baltimore Sun, December 21: 1A.


—. 1996. "Suspect in slaying says he killed 2 others Police searches yield." Baltimore Sun, December 18.


Higham, Scott. 1998. "Methainy found guilty of killing woman." Baltimore Sun, May 15: 8B.


Hopper, Dale. 1997. "Murder suspect convicted of kidnapping, assault." Star-Democrat, November 18: 3.


Investigation Discovery. 2016. Serial killer Joe 'The Cannibal' Methainy, served human burgers at his BBQ stand, dead in cell. December 19. Accessed February 27, 2023. https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/serial-killer/joe-the-cannibal-Methainy-the-serial-killer-with-a-penchant-for-human-flesh-burgers.


Irwin, Richard. 1996. "2 men charged in woman's stabbing death." Baltimore Sun, December 16: 2B.


Jacobson, Joan. 2000. "Court voids death verdict." Baltimore Sun, July 25: 11.


—. 1998. "Killer given death penalty." Baltimore Sun, November 14: 1.


—. 1998. "Methainy sentencing testimony begins." Baltimore Sun, November 10: 27.


James, Michael. 1997. "As police sift claims, families seek solace." Baltimore Sun, January 13: 1.


Methainy v. State of Maryland. 2000. 149 (Court of Appeals of Maryland, July 24).


Pekkanen, Sarah. 1998. "Suspect's confession to killing played in court." Baltimore Sun, May 1: 1B.


Penn, Ivan. 1997. "Slaying suspect on trial in attempted murder." Baltimore Sun, November 6: 11B.


—. 1997. "Woman describes night of attack." Baltimore Sun, November 7: 7B.


Prudente, Tim. 2017. "Convicted murderer dead in his cell." Baltimore Sun, August 8: A2.


Shatzkin, Kate. 1997. "Death penalty to be sought in slayings of 2." Baltimore Sun, March 21.


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On December 15, 1996, Baltimore police discovered the body of twenty-three-year-old Kimberly Spicer buried under a trailer on the property of a pallet factory in the city’s southwest side. Later that day, police arrested Joseph Methainy, a man who lived and worked at the factory where Spicer’s body was discovered. It didn’t take long for police to solidly connect Methainy to the murders of two additional Baltimore women as well. In his wild confessions he claimed massive victim numbers and even cannibalism.


Thanks to Dave White for research assistance!


References

Associated Press. 1997. "Man's trial in slaying of 2 women is postponed; change of venue sought." Baltimore Sun, July 8: 4B.


—. 1996. "Accused killer called fun-loving." Daily Times, December 20: 2.


—. 1997. "Mount Airy scientits finds where the bones are buried." Star-Democrat, February 5: 13.


—. 1998. "Officials: Methainy attempted suicide ." Star-Democrat, March 24: 6.


—. 1996. "'Practical joker' held in 3 slayings." The Capital, December 20: 14.


—. 1997. "Suspected serial killer indicted." The Daily Times, January 29: 2.


Hermann, Peter. 1996. "Suspect charged in 2 more slayings." Baltimore Sun, December 19: 25.


—. 1996. "Suspect gives police details of 4 slayings." Baltimore Sun, December 21: 1A.


—. 1996. "Suspect in slaying says he killed 2 others Police searches yield." Baltimore Sun, December 18.


Higham, Scott. 1998. "Methainy found guilty of killing woman." Baltimore Sun, May 15: 8B.


Hopper, Dale. 1997. "Murder suspect convicted of kidnapping, assault." Star-Democrat, November 18: 3.


Investigation Discovery. 2016. Serial killer Joe 'The Cannibal' Methainy, served human burgers at his BBQ stand, dead in cell. December 19. Accessed February 27, 2023. https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/serial-killer/joe-the-cannibal-Methainy-the-serial-killer-with-a-penchant-for-human-flesh-burgers.


Irwin, Richard. 1996. "2 men charged in woman's stabbing death." Baltimore Sun, December 16: 2B.


Jacobson, Joan. 2000. "Court voids death verdict." Baltimore Sun, July 25: 11.


—. 1998. "Killer given death penalty." Baltimore Sun, November 14: 1.


—. 1998. "Methainy sentencing testimony begins." Baltimore Sun, November 10: 27.


James, Michael. 1997. "As police sift claims, families seek solace." Baltimore Sun, January 13: 1.


Methainy v. State of Maryland. 2000. 149 (Court of Appeals of Maryland, July 24).


Pekkanen, Sarah. 1998. "Suspect's confession to killing played in court." Baltimore Sun, May 1: 1B.


Penn, Ivan. 1997. "Slaying suspect on trial in attempted murder." Baltimore Sun, November 6: 11B.


—. 1997. "Woman describes night of attack." Baltimore Sun, November 7: 7B.


Prudente, Tim. 2017. "Convicted murderer dead in his cell." Baltimore Sun, August 8: A2.


Shatzkin, Kate. 1997. "Death penalty to be sought in slayings of 2." Baltimore Sun, March 21.


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The Murder of Mandy Stavik

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In late November 1989, college freshman Mandy Stavik returned to her hometown of Acme, Washington to celebrate the holidays with her family. On the afternoon of November 24, the day after Thanksgiving, Mandy told her family she was going for a run. When she still hadn’t returned that evening, her mother became concerned and called around to her friends, but none had heard from her. When she still hadn’t returned the next morning, the panic set in, and the search began.


For three days, the residents of Acme, Washington undertook an increasingly desperate search for Mandy Stavik and were heartbroken when her body was eventually located in the shallow water of the Nooksack River. Local police began an intense investigation, but after months of dead ends and dwindling leads, the case wound down and eventually went cold.


Mandy Stavik’s death would likely have remained unsolved, were it not for a tenacious cold case detective, who in 2009 began running old DNA samples against samples collected from suspects over the last two decades.


Thank you to the fantastical David White for research assistance


References

Associated Press. 1989. "Amanda Stavik's brother also died tragically." Lewiston Tribune, December 1.

Ferm, Carol. 1989. "A flood of memories, a torrent of tears." The Bellingham Herald, December 3: 1.

—. 1989. "Community's sense of peace is shattered." The Bellingham Herald, November 29: 1.

—. 1989. "Family and friends keep a vigil of hope." The Bellingham Herald, November 26: 11.

—. 1989. "Loss angers, saddens classmate." The Bellingham Herald, November 29: 2.

—. 1989. "Reward offered." The Bellingham Herald, November 27: 1.

—. 1989. "Teen presumed kidnapped." The Bellingham Herald, November 26: 1.

Ferm, Carol, and Cathy Logg. 1989. "Search for missing teen continues." The Bellingham Herald, November 27: 1.

—. 1989. "Stavik's body found in Nooksack." The Bellingham Herald, November 28: 1.

Logg, Cathy. 1989. "Clues elusive in Stavki's death." The Bellingham Herald, November 29: 1.

—. 1989. "Investigators get many tips in Stavik case." The Bellingham Herald, December 1: 13.

—. 1989. "Police issue a warning about human predators." The Bellingham Herald, December 20: 11.

—. 1989. "Sheriff seeks pudgy-faced man for questioning in Stavik case." The Bellingham Herald, December 3: 13.

—. 1990. "Stavik case awaits tests." The Bellingham Herald, March 20: 1.

—. 1992. "Stavik 'suspect' files suit." The Bellingham Herald, March 21: 1.

—. 1990. "Garment ID'd tentatively as Mandy's." The Bellingham Press, January 28: 15.

Mittendorf, Robert. 2017. "Arrest in 1989 killing - sheriff credits DNA." The Bellingham Herald, December 14: A1.

Pratt, Denver. 2018. "Defense challenges DNA evidence in '89 slaying." The Bellingham Herald, August 11: A1.

—. 2019. "Defense in murder trial opening: 'No one knows what happened to Ms. Stavik'." The Bellingham Herald, May 11: A1.

—. 2017. "First-degree murder charge filed in 1989 kiling of Stavik." The Bellingham Herald, December 15: A1.

—. 2019. "'I wanted to do the right thing for Mandy,' Bass' co-worker testifies." The Bellingham Herald, May 17: A1.

Sirken, Alec. 2016. How two moms chatting at a water park helped crack a Thanksgiving cold case murder. July 16. Accessed May 18, 2023. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mandy-stavik-case-how-two-moms-chatting-at-a-water-park-helped-crack-thanksgiving-cold-case-murder/.

State of Washington vs. Timothy Bass. 2021. 80156-2-I (The Court of Appeals for the State of Washington, June 1)


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In late November 1989, college freshman Mandy Stavik returned to her hometown of Acme, Washington to celebrate the holidays with her family. On the afternoon of November 24, the day after Thanksgiving, Mandy told her family she was going for a run. When she still hadn’t returned that evening, her mother became concerned and called around to her friends, but none had heard from her. When she still hadn’t returned the next morning, the panic set in, and the search began.


For three days, the residents of Acme, Washington undertook an increasingly desperate search for Mandy Stavik and were heartbroken when her body was eventually located in the shallow water of the Nooksack River. Local police began an intense investigation, but after months of dead ends and dwindling leads, the case wound down and eventually went cold.


Mandy Stavik’s death would likely have remained unsolved, were it not for a tenacious cold case detective, who in 2009 began running old DNA samples against samples collected from suspects over the last two decades.


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References

Associated Press. 1989. "Amanda Stavik's brother also died tragically." Lewiston Tribune, December 1.

Ferm, Carol. 1989. "A flood of memories, a torrent of tears." The Bellingham Herald, December 3: 1.

—. 1989. "Community's sense of peace is shattered." The Bellingham Herald, November 29: 1.

—. 1989. "Family and friends keep a vigil of hope." The Bellingham Herald, November 26: 11.

—. 1989. "Loss angers, saddens classmate." The Bellingham Herald, November 29: 2.

—. 1989. "Reward offered." The Bellingham Herald, November 27: 1.

—. 1989. "Teen presumed kidnapped." The Bellingham Herald, November 26: 1.

Ferm, Carol, and Cathy Logg. 1989. "Search for missing teen continues." The Bellingham Herald, November 27: 1.

—. 1989. "Stavik's body found in Nooksack." The Bellingham Herald, November 28: 1.

Logg, Cathy. 1989. "Clues elusive in Stavki's death." The Bellingham Herald, November 29: 1.

—. 1989. "Investigators get many tips in Stavik case." The Bellingham Herald, December 1: 13.

—. 1989. "Police issue a warning about human predators." The Bellingham Herald, December 20: 11.

—. 1989. "Sheriff seeks pudgy-faced man for questioning in Stavik case." The Bellingham Herald, December 3: 13.

—. 1990. "Stavik case awaits tests." The Bellingham Herald, March 20: 1.

—. 1992. "Stavik 'suspect' files suit." The Bellingham Herald, March 21: 1.

—. 1990. "Garment ID'd tentatively as Mandy's." The Bellingham Press, January 28: 15.

Mittendorf, Robert. 2017. "Arrest in 1989 killing - sheriff credits DNA." The Bellingham Herald, December 14: A1.

Pratt, Denver. 2018. "Defense challenges DNA evidence in '89 slaying." The Bellingham Herald, August 11: A1.

—. 2019. "Defense in murder trial opening: 'No one knows what happened to Ms. Stavik'." The Bellingham Herald, May 11: A1.

—. 2017. "First-degree murder charge filed in 1989 kiling of Stavik." The Bellingham Herald, December 15: A1.

—. 2019. "'I wanted to do the right thing for Mandy,' Bass' co-worker testifies." The Bellingham Herald, May 17: A1.

Sirken, Alec. 2016. How two moms chatting at a water park helped crack a Thanksgiving cold case murder. July 16. Accessed May 18, 2023. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mandy-stavik-case-how-two-moms-chatting-at-a-water-park-helped-crack-thanksgiving-cold-case-murder/.

State of Washington vs. Timothy Bass. 2021. 80156-2-I (The Court of Appeals for the State of Washington, June 1)


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Elroy Kent & The Murder of Delia Congdon

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On the morning of July 24, 1908, Delia Congdon, a deaf and non-verbal woman living alone in East Wallingford, Vermont, was found dead in her pantry—presumed to have been murdered while she prepared breakfast. At first, investigators suspected a local criminal known for his violent behavior; however, within a day, an unusual clue discovered in Congdon’s barn pointed them towards Elroy Kent, a notorious local thief and recent escapee from a nearby psychiatric hospital whose petty criminal antics had plagued police for decades. With a caveat of mental illness at stake, Kent's trial and execution came under heavy scrutiny.


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References

Bennington Banner. 1909. "Elroy Kent found guilty in the 1st degree." Bennington Banner, April 10: 1.

—. 1909. "Shocking Tales in Elroy Kent murder trial." Bennington Banner, April 01: 1.

Bennington Evening Banner. 1908. "Bloodhounds at East Dorset on Kent's trail." Bennington Evening Banner, August 1: 1.

—. 1908. "Escaped lunatic through to be murderer ." Bennington Evening Banner, July 27: 1.

—. 1909. "Evidence against Elroy Kent is increasing." Bennington Evening Banner, April 2: 1.

—. 1908. "Tracing Kent by mania for name carving." Bennington Evening Banner, August 6: 1.

Boston Daily Globe. 1908. "Denies killing Delia Congdon." Boston Daily Globe, October 27: 9.

—. 1902. "Jumped from train." Boston Daily Globe, December 9: 3.

—. 1909. "Kent "faking" says Shirres." Boston Daily Globe, April 9: 8.

—. 1909. "Kent must die in 1911." Boston Daily Globe, November 3: 9.

—. 1912. "State aghast at Kent mishap." Boston Daily Globe, Janaury 6: 8.

Brattleboro Reformer. 1905. "Elroy Kent heard from." Brattleboro Reformer, October 6: 1.

Burlington Clipper. 1902. "May do some good." Burlington Clipper, February 8: 2.

Burlington Daily News. 1909. "Testimony against Kent." Burlington Daily News, April 3: 1.

—. 1908. "Want $10,000 for an alleged libel." Burlington Daily News, August 25: 1.

Burlington Free Press. 1908. "Foul murder in East Wallingford." Burlington Free Press, July 25: 1.

—. 1909. "Grout may be called to stand." Burlington Free Press, April 5: 1.

Daily Journal. 1908. "Elroy Kent under arrest ." Daily Journal, October 24: 1.

Montpelier Evening Argus. 1909. "Kent pleads not guilty." Montpelier Evening Argus, March 30: 1.

New York Times. 1908. "Gte insane murder suspect." New York Times, October 25: 20.

Reformer, Brattleboro. 1908. "Elroy Kent a murderer?" Brattleboro Reformer, July 31: 1.

Rumboldt, John. 2013. Murder on Sugar Hill. Family history, genealogy, Rutland, VT: Rutland Historical Society.

Rutlad Daily Herald. 1961. "Two instances." Rutland Daily Herald, March 24: 8.

Rutland Daily Herald. 1905. "Insane criminal still at large." Rutland Daily Herald, August 19: 7.

—. 1908. "Murdered in E. Wallingford." Rutland Daily Herald, July 25: 1.

St. Albans Daily Messenger . 1905. "Escaped last night." St. Albans Daily Messenger, August 12: 1.

St. Albans Daily Messenger. 1902. "Elroy Kent back in jail." St. Albans Daily Messenger, December 8: 1.

—. 1905. "Elroy Kent captured." St. Albans Daily Messenger, October 23: 1.

State vs. Elroy Kent. 1909. NA (Supreme Court for the State of Vermont, October 1).

Vermont Phoenix. 1902. "Burglar with record." Vermont Phoenix, January 31: 2.

—. 1905. "Elroy Kent, notorious criminal arrested." Vermont Phoenix, October 27: 2.

Veront Journal. 1902. "News and notes." Vermont Journal, March 8: 8.


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On the morning of July 24, 1908, Delia Congdon, a deaf and non-verbal woman living alone in East Wallingford, Vermont, was found dead in her pantry—presumed to have been murdered while she prepared breakfast. At first, investigators suspected a local criminal known for his violent behavior; however, within a day, an unusual clue discovered in Congdon’s barn pointed them towards Elroy Kent, a notorious local thief and recent escapee from a nearby psychiatric hospital whose petty criminal antics had plagued police for decades. With a caveat of mental illness at stake, Kent's trial and execution came under heavy scrutiny.


Thank you to the magical and mystical Dave for research assistance.

References

Bennington Banner. 1909. "Elroy Kent found guilty in the 1st degree." Bennington Banner, April 10: 1.

—. 1909. "Shocking Tales in Elroy Kent murder trial." Bennington Banner, April 01: 1.

Bennington Evening Banner. 1908. "Bloodhounds at East Dorset on Kent's trail." Bennington Evening Banner, August 1: 1.

—. 1908. "Escaped lunatic through to be murderer ." Bennington Evening Banner, July 27: 1.

—. 1909. "Evidence against Elroy Kent is increasing." Bennington Evening Banner, April 2: 1.

—. 1908. "Tracing Kent by mania for name carving." Bennington Evening Banner, August 6: 1.

Boston Daily Globe. 1908. "Denies killing Delia Congdon." Boston Daily Globe, October 27: 9.

—. 1902. "Jumped from train." Boston Daily Globe, December 9: 3.

—. 1909. "Kent "faking" says Shirres." Boston Daily Globe, April 9: 8.

—. 1909. "Kent must die in 1911." Boston Daily Globe, November 3: 9.

—. 1912. "State aghast at Kent mishap." Boston Daily Globe, Janaury 6: 8.

Brattleboro Reformer. 1905. "Elroy Kent heard from." Brattleboro Reformer, October 6: 1.

Burlington Clipper. 1902. "May do some good." Burlington Clipper, February 8: 2.

Burlington Daily News. 1909. "Testimony against Kent." Burlington Daily News, April 3: 1.

—. 1908. "Want $10,000 for an alleged libel." Burlington Daily News, August 25: 1.

Burlington Free Press. 1908. "Foul murder in East Wallingford." Burlington Free Press, July 25: 1.

—. 1909. "Grout may be called to stand." Burlington Free Press, April 5: 1.

Daily Journal. 1908. "Elroy Kent under arrest ." Daily Journal, October 24: 1.

Montpelier Evening Argus. 1909. "Kent pleads not guilty." Montpelier Evening Argus, March 30: 1.

New York Times. 1908. "Gte insane murder suspect." New York Times, October 25: 20.

Reformer, Brattleboro. 1908. "Elroy Kent a murderer?" Brattleboro Reformer, July 31: 1.

Rumboldt, John. 2013. Murder on Sugar Hill. Family history, genealogy, Rutland, VT: Rutland Historical Society.

Rutlad Daily Herald. 1961. "Two instances." Rutland Daily Herald, March 24: 8.

Rutland Daily Herald. 1905. "Insane criminal still at large." Rutland Daily Herald, August 19: 7.

—. 1908. "Murdered in E. Wallingford." Rutland Daily Herald, July 25: 1.

St. Albans Daily Messenger . 1905. "Escaped last night." St. Albans Daily Messenger, August 12: 1.

St. Albans Daily Messenger. 1902. "Elroy Kent back in jail." St. Albans Daily Messenger, December 8: 1.

—. 1905. "Elroy Kent captured." St. Albans Daily Messenger, October 23: 1.

State vs. Elroy Kent. 1909. NA (Supreme Court for the State of Vermont, October 1).

Vermont Phoenix. 1902. "Burglar with record." Vermont Phoenix, January 31: 2.

—. 1905. "Elroy Kent, notorious criminal arrested." Vermont Phoenix, October 27: 2.

Veront Journal. 1902. "News and notes." Vermont Journal, March 8: 8.


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The Tragic Murder of Grace Millane

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On December 2, 2018, the parents of twenty-one-year-old Grace Millane, a British tourist on vacation in New Zealand, became concerned when the birthday wishes they sent their daughter went unacknowledged. Having completed her degree at the University of Lincoln a few months earlier, Grace had spent several weeks traveling during her gap year but had been keeping in regular contact with her parents since leaving for her trip. When they still hadn’t heard from their daughter three days later, Grace’s parents called Auckland police and reported her missing. A week later, Grace Millane’s body was discovered in a suitcase near an access road in the Waitakere Ranges, a dense wooded area about twelve miles outside Auckland. A day later, investigators arrested twenty-six-year-old Jesse Kempson, who was the last person seen with Grace on the night of the murder when the two were captured together by a CCTV camera going up to Kempson’s room at the CityLife Hotel.


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References

BBC News. 2018. Grace Millane: Man appears in court charged with backpacker's murder. December 10. Accessed May 3, 2023. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-46502649.

Creed, Rebecca. 2021. "Former flatmate of Grace Millane's killer says he was." The Echo, November 15.

Critchell, Matthew. 2019. "Backpacker Grace spoke to men on bondage chat rooms,." The Echo, November 20.

Emes, Toby. 2019. "Accused killer admitted Grace was dead in second interview." The Echo, November 14.

Faulkner, Doug. 2019. Grace Millane murder: A trial that gripped a nation. November 22. Accessed May 2, 2023. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-50515326.

Feehan, Katie. 2018. "Brother of Wickford woman missing in New Zealand says lack." The Echo, December 5.

—. 2018. "Police release last known image of missing Wickford woman." The Echo, December 6.

Graham-Mclay, Charlotte. 2018. "After backpacker's killing, New Zealand looks again at violence against women." New York Times, December 13.

—. 2018. "New Zealand murder case leads to rebuke of Google." New York Times, December 15.

—. 2018. "New Zealander accused of killing tourist." New York Times, December 9.

Humphries, Will, and Bernard Lagan. 2018. "Distraught father flies to join backpacker search." The Times, December 7.

Jesse Shane Kempson v. The Queen. 2021. SC 11/2021 NZSC 74 (Supreme Court of New Zealand, June 29).

Kirk, Tristan. 2019. "Guilty: Fantasist who killed Grace." London Evening Standard, November 22.

—. 2019. "Guilty: Grace jury takes only five hours to return verdict of murder." London Evening Standard, November 22.

Kolirin, Lianne. 2020. "Grace Millane's killer attacked other women." The Times, December 22.

Lagan, Bernard. 2018. "Body found in search for missing backpacker." The Times, December 10.

—. 2019. "British backpacker's 'killer' lied about their Tinder date." The Times, November 13.

Lagan, Bernard, and Will Humphries. 2018. "Father appeals for clues to help find missing daughter." The Times, December 8.

Leask, Anna. 2020. Who is Grace Millane's murderer? Unravelling labyrinth of lies and a fatal Tinder date. February 20. Accessed May 1, 2023. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/who-is-grace-millanes-murderer-unravelling-labyrinth-of-lies-and-a-fatal-tinder-date/PDGHMSM67MZQ5VBH4GT2XIXZ7Q/?c_id=1&objectid=12287282.

MacDonald, Stuart. 2021. "'Rough sex' defence for murder could be banned." The Times, May 29.

Roy, Eleanor Ainge. 2019. "Grace Millane trial: blood in hotel room likely backpacker's." The Guardian, November 8.

—. 2019. "Grace Millane trial: witness says she feared she would die." The Guardian, November 11.

—. 2019. "'She should have been safe here'." The Guardian, November 22.

Smith, Anneka. 2020. "Grace Millane's life: far more than the details of her death." Radio New Zealand, February 21.

South Wales Echo. 2020. "Grace's killer 'raped another Brit tourist'." South Wales Echo, December 23.


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On December 2, 2018, the parents of twenty-one-year-old Grace Millane, a British tourist on vacation in New Zealand, became concerned when the birthday wishes they sent their daughter went unacknowledged. Having completed her degree at the University of Lincoln a few months earlier, Grace had spent several weeks traveling during her gap year but had been keeping in regular contact with her parents since leaving for her trip. When they still hadn’t heard from their daughter three days later, Grace’s parents called Auckland police and reported her missing. A week later, Grace Millane’s body was discovered in a suitcase near an access road in the Waitakere Ranges, a dense wooded area about twelve miles outside Auckland. A day later, investigators arrested twenty-six-year-old Jesse Kempson, who was the last person seen with Grace on the night of the murder when the two were captured together by a CCTV camera going up to Kempson’s room at the CityLife Hotel.


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References

BBC News. 2018. Grace Millane: Man appears in court charged with backpacker's murder. December 10. Accessed May 3, 2023. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-46502649.

Creed, Rebecca. 2021. "Former flatmate of Grace Millane's killer says he was." The Echo, November 15.

Critchell, Matthew. 2019. "Backpacker Grace spoke to men on bondage chat rooms,." The Echo, November 20.

Emes, Toby. 2019. "Accused killer admitted Grace was dead in second interview." The Echo, November 14.

Faulkner, Doug. 2019. Grace Millane murder: A trial that gripped a nation. November 22. Accessed May 2, 2023. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-50515326.

Feehan, Katie. 2018. "Brother of Wickford woman missing in New Zealand says lack." The Echo, December 5.

—. 2018. "Police release last known image of missing Wickford woman." The Echo, December 6.

Graham-Mclay, Charlotte. 2018. "After backpacker's killing, New Zealand looks again at violence against women." New York Times, December 13.

—. 2018. "New Zealand murder case leads to rebuke of Google." New York Times, December 15.

—. 2018. "New Zealander accused of killing tourist." New York Times, December 9.

Humphries, Will, and Bernard Lagan. 2018. "Distraught father flies to join backpacker search." The Times, December 7.

Jesse Shane Kempson v. The Queen. 2021. SC 11/2021 NZSC 74 (Supreme Court of New Zealand, June 29).

Kirk, Tristan. 2019. "Guilty: Fantasist who killed Grace." London Evening Standard, November 22.

—. 2019. "Guilty: Grace jury takes only five hours to return verdict of murder." London Evening Standard, November 22.

Kolirin, Lianne. 2020. "Grace Millane's killer attacked other women." The Times, December 22.

Lagan, Bernard. 2018. "Body found in search for missing backpacker." The Times, December 10.

—. 2019. "British backpacker's 'killer' lied about their Tinder date." The Times, November 13.

Lagan, Bernard, and Will Humphries. 2018. "Father appeals for clues to help find missing daughter." The Times, December 8.

Leask, Anna. 2020. Who is Grace Millane's murderer? Unravelling labyrinth of lies and a fatal Tinder date. February 20. Accessed May 1, 2023. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/who-is-grace-millanes-murderer-unravelling-labyrinth-of-lies-and-a-fatal-tinder-date/PDGHMSM67MZQ5VBH4GT2XIXZ7Q/?c_id=1&objectid=12287282.

MacDonald, Stuart. 2021. "'Rough sex' defence for murder could be banned." The Times, May 29.

Roy, Eleanor Ainge. 2019. "Grace Millane trial: blood in hotel room likely backpacker's." The Guardian, November 8.

—. 2019. "Grace Millane trial: witness says she feared she would die." The Guardian, November 11.

—. 2019. "'She should have been safe here'." The Guardian, November 22.

Smith, Anneka. 2020. "Grace Millane's life: far more than the details of her death." Radio New Zealand, February 21.

South Wales Echo. 2020. "Grace's killer 'raped another Brit tourist'." South Wales Echo, December 23.


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On May 23, 2000, teens Elizabeth "Liz" Reiser and Brandi Hicks went down to the local video store in New Philadelphia, Ohio to rent a movie. While there, they met a man who told them he had no way to get home and would pay them $20 if they would give him a ride. Both girls believed in helping their fellow human, so they agreed after a bit of hesitation.

What began as a routine act of charity quickly spiraled out of control, resulting in the murder of Liz Reiser and the attempted rape and attempted murder of Brandi Hicks by the man they had intended to help, Mathew Vaca. The crimes committed against Reiser and Hicks were brutal and sent shockwaves through the small Ohio community.

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On May 23, 2000, teens Elizabeth "Liz" Reiser and Brandi Hicks went down to the local video store in New Philadelphia, Ohio to rent a movie. While there, they met a man who told them he had no way to get home and would pay them $20 if they would give him a ride. Both girls believed in helping their fellow human, so they agreed after a bit of hesitation.

What began as a routine act of charity quickly spiraled out of control, resulting in the murder of Liz Reiser and the attempted rape and attempted murder of Brandi Hicks by the man they had intended to help, Mathew Vaca. The crimes committed against Reiser and Hicks were brutal and sent shockwaves through the small Ohio community.

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The Murder of Dawn Hacheney

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On the morning of December 26, 1997, police and fire services responded to a call about a structure fire at the home Bremerton, WA home of Nick and Dawn Hacheney. When they were finally able to extinguish the flames and search the home, they discovered the badly burned body of twenty-eight-year-old Dawn Hachney in her bed, where her husband had left her several hours earlier. After a brief investigation, Dawn’s death was determined to be the result of an accidental fire—a tragic end to a short life, nothing more.


The case, which most had considered closed years earlier, was revived in April of 2001, when a woman went to Bremerton Police with a startling statement. She claimed to have been having an affair with Dawn’s husband Nick, at the time of Dawn’s death and that, at some point during their affair, he’d confessed to drugging his wife and setting the house on fire to cover up the murder. Investigators took the woman’s claims very seriously; however, Nick Hacheney was a former minister, which added to people's perception of the case.



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References:

Associated Press. 2002. "Former minister on trial in wife's death." The News Tribune, November 11: 16.

Baker, Travis. 2003. "Angry words erupt at Hacheney Sentencing." Kitsap Sun, February 8: 1.

—. 2002. "Defense presses woman who pointed finger." Kitsap Sun, November 27: 4.

—. 2001. "Ex-minister might face life in prison without parole." Kitsap Sun, October 4: 1.

—. 2001. "Ex-minister pleads innocent in wife's death." Kitsap Sun, September 18: 1.

—. 2002. "Former minister guilty of murdering wife." Kitsap Sun, December 27: 1.

—. 2001. "Hacheney denied reduced bail." Kitsap Sun, October 27: 4.

—. 2002. "Judge: Jury will hear of alleged wife killer's affairs." Kitsap Sun, February 28: 10.

—. 2002. "Pathologist testifies about changing autopsy results." Kitsap Sun, November 13: 3.

—. 2002. "Sexual affairs not relevant, attorney argues." Kitsap Sun, February 9: 5.

—. 2002. "Trial begins for ex-minister accused of killing wife." Kitsap Sun, November 4: 1.

Kitsap Sun. 1997. "Dawn Hacheney Obituary." Kitsap Sun, December 30: 5.

McCormick, Julie. 2001. "Former minister suspect in wife's death." Kitsap Sun, September 14: 1.

Olsen, Gregg. 2010. A Twisted Faith: A Minister's Obsession and the Murder that Destroyed a Church. New York, NY: St. Martin's Press.

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On the morning of December 26, 1997, police and fire services responded to a call about a structure fire at the home Bremerton, WA home of Nick and Dawn Hacheney. When they were finally able to extinguish the flames and search the home, they discovered the badly burned body of twenty-eight-year-old Dawn Hachney in her bed, where her husband had left her several hours earlier. After a brief investigation, Dawn’s death was determined to be the result of an accidental fire—a tragic end to a short life, nothing more.


The case, which most had considered closed years earlier, was revived in April of 2001, when a woman went to Bremerton Police with a startling statement. She claimed to have been having an affair with Dawn’s husband Nick, at the time of Dawn’s death and that, at some point during their affair, he’d confessed to drugging his wife and setting the house on fire to cover up the murder. Investigators took the woman’s claims very seriously; however, Nick Hacheney was a former minister, which added to people's perception of the case.



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References:

Associated Press. 2002. "Former minister on trial in wife's death." The News Tribune, November 11: 16.

Baker, Travis. 2003. "Angry words erupt at Hacheney Sentencing." Kitsap Sun, February 8: 1.

—. 2002. "Defense presses woman who pointed finger." Kitsap Sun, November 27: 4.

—. 2001. "Ex-minister might face life in prison without parole." Kitsap Sun, October 4: 1.

—. 2001. "Ex-minister pleads innocent in wife's death." Kitsap Sun, September 18: 1.

—. 2002. "Former minister guilty of murdering wife." Kitsap Sun, December 27: 1.

—. 2001. "Hacheney denied reduced bail." Kitsap Sun, October 27: 4.

—. 2002. "Judge: Jury will hear of alleged wife killer's affairs." Kitsap Sun, February 28: 10.

—. 2002. "Pathologist testifies about changing autopsy results." Kitsap Sun, November 13: 3.

—. 2002. "Sexual affairs not relevant, attorney argues." Kitsap Sun, February 9: 5.

—. 2002. "Trial begins for ex-minister accused of killing wife." Kitsap Sun, November 4: 1.

Kitsap Sun. 1997. "Dawn Hacheney Obituary." Kitsap Sun, December 30: 5.

McCormick, Julie. 2001. "Former minister suspect in wife's death." Kitsap Sun, September 14: 1.

Olsen, Gregg. 2010. A Twisted Faith: A Minister's Obsession and the Murder that Destroyed a Church. New York, NY: St. Martin's Press.

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

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The Devil Made Me Do It

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On the evening of February 16, 1981, nineteen-year-old Arne Johnson stabbed his friend and landlord Alan Bono to death during an argument, after which Johnson fled the scene and was arrested several miles away later that night. Under normal circumstances, the murder of one man by another in a small town would hardly register on the scale of national, or even regional news, but if Arne Johnson was to be believed, these weren’t ordinary circumstances. According to Arne, the devil made him do it.


Thank you to Dave White for research assistance.


References:

Associated Press. 1986. "Man released early in 'demon murder case'." Hartford Courant, January 23: 47.

Brozek, Diane. 1981. "Teen-ager charged in 'possession' case." Hartford Courant, March 20: 11.

Carl Glatzel Jr. et al v. Gerald Brittle et al. 2010. DBCV-08-4008461-S (Connecticut Superior Court Judicial District of Danbury, October 25).

Christoffersen, John. 2007. "Suit vs. psychic says demon murder was a hoax." Record-Journal, October 10: M3.

Clendinen, Dudley. 1981. "Defendant in murder puts the devil on trial." New York Times, March 23: B1.

Galup. n.d. Religion. Accessed May 10, 2023. https://news.gallup.com/poll/1690/religion.aspx.

Harris, John. 1981. "Bizarre happenings surround killing in Brookfield." Hartford Courant, February 27: 2.

—. 1981. "Critics bedevil demonolgist, attorney in slaying case ." Hartford Courant, June 22: B1.

—. 1981. "'Demon' murder case sent to Danbury jury." Hartford Courant, November 21: 8.

—. 1981. "Exorcism, demons' role argued." Hartford Courant, March 15: 1.

—. 1981. "Johnson guilty in demons case." Hartford Courant, November 25: 1.

—. 1981. "Judge bars demonic possession defense." Hartford Courant, October 29: 1.

Healion, James. 1981. "A barmaid testified Thursday that murder suspect Arne Cheyenne..." United Press International, November 5.

—. 1981. "A judge Wednesday threw out the 'demon defense'." United Press International, October 28.

—. 1981. "Judge Robert J. Callahan Thursday refused to reconsider his decision." United Press International, October 29.

—. 1981. "The murder trial of Arne Cheyenne Johnson in Danbury." United Press International, November 13.

Pionzio, Melissa. 2007. "'Factual' exorcism book evokes past pain." Hartford Courant, October 14: B1.

Putcamp, Luise. 1981. "Supernatural episodes form prelude to killing." Buffalo Evening News, July 30: 1.

—. 1981. "Suspect's alibi: He was possessed." Buffalo Evening News, August 5: 2.

Stagis, Julie. 2014. "Killer's defense: He was possessed." Hartford Courant, April 22: B1.

2006. A Haunting. Directed by Stuart Taylor. Produced by Tom Naughton.

United Press International. 1981. "'Demon slayer' gets 10-to-20 year sentence." United Press International, December 18.

United States Conference of Catholic Bishops. n.d. Exorcism. Accessed May 8, 2023. https://www.usccb.org/prayer-and-worship/sacraments-and-sacramentals/sacramentals-blessings/exorcism.

Walzer, E.B. 1982. "Appeal dropped in 'demon' case." The Reporter Dispatch, March 19: 2.


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Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

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On the evening of February 16, 1981, nineteen-year-old Arne Johnson stabbed his friend and landlord Alan Bono to death during an argument, after which Johnson fled the scene and was arrested several miles away later that night. Under normal circumstances, the murder of one man by another in a small town would hardly register on the scale of national, or even regional news, but if Arne Johnson was to be believed, these weren’t ordinary circumstances. According to Arne, the devil made him do it.


Thank you to Dave White for research assistance.


References:

Associated Press. 1986. "Man released early in 'demon murder case'." Hartford Courant, January 23: 47.

Brozek, Diane. 1981. "Teen-ager charged in 'possession' case." Hartford Courant, March 20: 11.

Carl Glatzel Jr. et al v. Gerald Brittle et al. 2010. DBCV-08-4008461-S (Connecticut Superior Court Judicial District of Danbury, October 25).

Christoffersen, John. 2007. "Suit vs. psychic says demon murder was a hoax." Record-Journal, October 10: M3.

Clendinen, Dudley. 1981. "Defendant in murder puts the devil on trial." New York Times, March 23: B1.

Galup. n.d. Religion. Accessed May 10, 2023. https://news.gallup.com/poll/1690/religion.aspx.

Harris, John. 1981. "Bizarre happenings surround killing in Brookfield." Hartford Courant, February 27: 2.

—. 1981. "Critics bedevil demonolgist, attorney in slaying case ." Hartford Courant, June 22: B1.

—. 1981. "'Demon' murder case sent to Danbury jury." Hartford Courant, November 21: 8.

—. 1981. "Exorcism, demons' role argued." Hartford Courant, March 15: 1.

—. 1981. "Johnson guilty in demons case." Hartford Courant, November 25: 1.

—. 1981. "Judge bars demonic possession defense." Hartford Courant, October 29: 1.

Healion, James. 1981. "A barmaid testified Thursday that murder suspect Arne Cheyenne..." United Press International, November 5.

—. 1981. "A judge Wednesday threw out the 'demon defense'." United Press International, October 28.

—. 1981. "Judge Robert J. Callahan Thursday refused to reconsider his decision." United Press International, October 29.

—. 1981. "The murder trial of Arne Cheyenne Johnson in Danbury." United Press International, November 13.

Pionzio, Melissa. 2007. "'Factual' exorcism book evokes past pain." Hartford Courant, October 14: B1.

Putcamp, Luise. 1981. "Supernatural episodes form prelude to killing." Buffalo Evening News, July 30: 1.

—. 1981. "Suspect's alibi: He was possessed." Buffalo Evening News, August 5: 2.

Stagis, Julie. 2014. "Killer's defense: He was possessed." Hartford Courant, April 22: B1.

2006. A Haunting. Directed by Stuart Taylor. Produced by Tom Naughton.

United Press International. 1981. "'Demon slayer' gets 10-to-20 year sentence." United Press International, December 18.

United States Conference of Catholic Bishops. n.d. Exorcism. Accessed May 8, 2023. https://www.usccb.org/prayer-and-worship/sacraments-and-sacramentals/sacramentals-blessings/exorcism.

Walzer, E.B. 1982. "Appeal dropped in 'demon' case." The Reporter Dispatch, March 19: 2.


Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

Listener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025)


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The Pamela Smart Case (Part2)

99 min
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A little after 10:00 pm on the evening of May 1, 1990, Pamela Smart returned home from work to find her husband, twenty-four-year-old Gregg Smart, lying dead just beyond the front door of their condominium, a single bullet hole in his head. Detectives from the small town of Derry, NH arrived to find what appeared to be the scene of a robbery; though, very little looked to have been stolen and to investigators the scene felt staged. Two days later, Derry Police Captain Loring Jackson announced that Gregg Smart’s death wasn’t a random attacked, he’d been murdered by someone who knew him. The murder of Gregg Smart, and the trial that followed, shocked the population of New Hampshire, where it remains perhaps the most notorious criminal trial in the state’s history. As the first criminal trial to be televised from beginning to end, the case of Pamela Smart and her teenage lover captivated a national audience, leading to television and feature films, several nonfiction books, and countless television specials in the decades that followed.


Special thank you to the brilliant David White for research assistance

References

Baker, Frank. 1990. "Smart to be jailed until trial." Concord Monitor, August 14: 1.

—. 1990. "Widow charged as accomplice." Concord Monitor, August 2: 14.

Carton, Barbara. 1991. "The Pamela Smart story." Boston Globe, Marcg 21.

1991. NH v. Smart: Opening Statements. Directed by Court TV. Performed by Court TV.

Derry News. 1990. "Family and friends puzzle over murder." Derry News, May 4: 1.

Englade, Ken. 1991. Deadly Lessons. New York, NY: St. Martin's Press.

Gaines, Judith, and Alexander Reid. 1991. "Jurors say tales a key to their decision." Boston Globe, March 23: 1.

Hernandez, Monica. 2023. Accomplice in Smart murder asks for sentence reduction. January 10. Accessed May 1, 2023. https://www.wmur.com/article/smart-murder-vance-lattime-sentence-reduction/42449265.

Hohler, Bob. 1991. "3 guilty in N.H. killing." Boston Globe, January 30: 1.

—. 1991. "Confidant was wired by police." Boston Globe, March 15: 21.

—. 1991. "Smart is found guilty." Boston Globe, March 23: 1.

—. 1991. "Smart pleaded for life, N.H. teen-ager testifies." Boston Globe, March 6: 19.

—. 1991. "Tales of seduction." Boston Globe, March 12: 1.

—. 1990. "Tape offered at Smart hearing." Boston Globe, August 14.

—. 1991. "Witness: Smart asked for tips on reaction." Boston Globe, March 3: 27.

—. 1991. "Youth says blood flowed, tears did not." Boston Globe, March 13: 35.

Kilgannon, Corey. 2023. "Smart, who plotted with a teen lover to kill her husband, loses a parole bid." New York Times, March 30.

Kittredge, Clare. 1991. "A verdict to take to son's grave." Boston Globe, March 23: 1.

—. 1991. "Smart trial garners big TV audience." Boston Globe, March 17: 1.

Richardson, Franci. 1990. "Mrs. Smart absolutely convinced husband surprised thief." Derry News, May 9: 1.

Sawicki, Stephen. 1991. Teach Me to Kill: The Shocking True Story of the Pamela Smart Murder Case. New York, NY: Avon Books.

Schweitzer, Sarah. 2015. "5 years later, shooter to go free: William Flynn was 16 when he was lured into murder by Pamela Smart." Boston Globe, March 13: A1.

State of New Hampshire v. Pamela Smart. 1993. 622 A.2d 1197 (Supreme Court of New Hampshire, February 26).

Wang, Beverley. 2005. "Pamela Smart accomplice released." Concord Monitor, June 15: 10.

West, Nancy. 2016. Breaking Silence: Cecelia Pierce Speaks. October 12. Accessed April 24, 2023. https://www.nhmagazine.com/breaking-silence-cecelia-pierce-speaks/.

West, Nancy, and David Mendelsohn. 2016. Pamela Smart: innocent of (still) guilty. October 13. Accessed April 29, 2023. https://www.nhmagazine.com/pamela-smart-innocent-or-still-guilty/


https://www.bostonherald.com/2015/03/09/brother-of-pamela-smarts-victim-killer-did-his-time/


Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

Listener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025)


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A little after 10:00 pm on the evening of May 1, 1990, Pamela Smart returned home from work to find her husband, twenty-four-year-old Gregg Smart, lying dead just beyond the front door of their condominium, a single bullet hole in his head. Detectives from the small town of Derry, NH arrived to find what appeared to be the scene of a robbery; though, very little looked to have been stolen and to investigators the scene felt staged. Two days later, Derry Police Captain Loring Jackson announced that Gregg Smart’s death wasn’t a random attacked, he’d been murdered by someone who knew him. The murder of Gregg Smart, and the trial that followed, shocked the population of New Hampshire, where it remains perhaps the most notorious criminal trial in the state’s history. As the first criminal trial to be televised from beginning to end, the case of Pamela Smart and her teenage lover captivated a national audience, leading to television and feature films, several nonfiction books, and countless television specials in the decades that followed.


Special thank you to the brilliant David White for research assistance

References

Baker, Frank. 1990. "Smart to be jailed until trial." Concord Monitor, August 14: 1.

—. 1990. "Widow charged as accomplice." Concord Monitor, August 2: 14.

Carton, Barbara. 1991. "The Pamela Smart story." Boston Globe, Marcg 21.

1991. NH v. Smart: Opening Statements. Directed by Court TV. Performed by Court TV.

Derry News. 1990. "Family and friends puzzle over murder." Derry News, May 4: 1.

Englade, Ken. 1991. Deadly Lessons. New York, NY: St. Martin's Press.

Gaines, Judith, and Alexander Reid. 1991. "Jurors say tales a key to their decision." Boston Globe, March 23: 1.

Hernandez, Monica. 2023. Accomplice in Smart murder asks for sentence reduction. January 10. Accessed May 1, 2023. https://www.wmur.com/article/smart-murder-vance-lattime-sentence-reduction/42449265.

Hohler, Bob. 1991. "3 guilty in N.H. killing." Boston Globe, January 30: 1.

—. 1991. "Confidant was wired by police." Boston Globe, March 15: 21.

—. 1991. "Smart is found guilty." Boston Globe, March 23: 1.

—. 1991. "Smart pleaded for life, N.H. teen-ager testifies." Boston Globe, March 6: 19.

—. 1991. "Tales of seduction." Boston Globe, March 12: 1.

—. 1990. "Tape offered at Smart hearing." Boston Globe, August 14.

—. 1991. "Witness: Smart asked for tips on reaction." Boston Globe, March 3: 27.

—. 1991. "Youth says blood flowed, tears did not." Boston Globe, March 13: 35.

Kilgannon, Corey. 2023. "Smart, who plotted with a teen lover to kill her husband, loses a parole bid." New York Times, March 30.

Kittredge, Clare. 1991. "A verdict to take to son's grave." Boston Globe, March 23: 1.

—. 1991. "Smart trial garners big TV audience." Boston Globe, March 17: 1.

Richardson, Franci. 1990. "Mrs. Smart absolutely convinced husband surprised thief." Derry News, May 9: 1.

Sawicki, Stephen. 1991. Teach Me to Kill: The Shocking True Story of the Pamela Smart Murder Case. New York, NY: Avon Books.

Schweitzer, Sarah. 2015. "5 years later, shooter to go free: William Flynn was 16 when he was lured into murder by Pamela Smart." Boston Globe, March 13: A1.

State of New Hampshire v. Pamela Smart. 1993. 622 A.2d 1197 (Supreme Court of New Hampshire, February 26).

Wang, Beverley. 2005. "Pamela Smart accomplice released." Concord Monitor, June 15: 10.

West, Nancy. 2016. Breaking Silence: Cecelia Pierce Speaks. October 12. Accessed April 24, 2023. https://www.nhmagazine.com/breaking-silence-cecelia-pierce-speaks/.

West, Nancy, and David Mendelsohn. 2016. Pamela Smart: innocent of (still) guilty. October 13. Accessed April 29, 2023. https://www.nhmagazine.com/pamela-smart-innocent-or-still-guilty/


https://www.bostonherald.com/2015/03/09/brother-of-pamela-smarts-victim-killer-did-his-time/


Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

Listener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025)


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The Pamela Smart Case (Part 1)

100 min
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Mention the Pamela Smart case to someone in New Hampshire, and they'll know exactly what you're talking about. The case captivated the nation in the early 90's and at the center of it all, of course, was Pamela. A New Hampshire native, she had big dreams of becoming somebody and making a name for herself. She moved away from her small town and almost did, but in the name of love she moved back home and settled into her career as a School Administrator. It was via that position that she would meet young sophomore in High School, Billy Flynn. Pam groomed the boy, and had him thinking they were fully in love before she asked him a question that would change both of their lives forever: Would he murder her husband? In part one we'll cover the early life of both Pam and her husband, Gregg Smart, we'll break down how Pam and Billy became involved with each other and just how Pam got Billy to believe that murdering her husband was what it would take for them to be together forever.


Special thank you to the brilliant David White for research assistance


References

Baker, Frank. 1990. "Smart to be jailed until trial." Concord Monitor, August 14: 1.

—. 1990. "Widow charged as accomplice." Concord Monitor, August 2: 14.

Carton, Barbara. 1991. "The Pamela Smart story." Boston Globe, Marcg 21.

1991. NH v. Smart: Opening Statements. Directed by Court TV. Performed by Court TV.

Derry News. 1990. "Family and friends puzzle over murder." Derry News, May 4: 1.

Englade, Ken. 1991. Deadly Lessons. New York, NY: St. Martin's Press.

Gaines, Judith, and Alexander Reid. 1991. "Jurors say tales a key to their decision." Boston Globe, March 23: 1.

Hernandez, Monica. 2023. Accomplice in Smart murder asks for sentence reduction. January 10. Accessed May 1, 2023. https://www.wmur.com/article/smart-murder-vance-lattime-sentence-reduction/42449265.

Hohler, Bob. 1991. "3 guilty in N.H. killing." Boston Globe, January 30: 1.

—. 1991. "Confidant was wired by police." Boston Globe, March 15: 21.

—. 1991. "Smart is found guilty." Boston Globe, March 23: 1.

—. 1991. "Smart pleaded for life, N.H. teen-ager testifies." Boston Globe, March 6: 19.

—. 1991. "Tales of seduction." Boston Globe, March 12: 1.

—. 1990. "Tape offered at Smart hearing." Boston Globe, August 14.

—. 1991. "Witness: Smart asked for tips on reaction." Boston Globe, March 3: 27.

—. 1991. "Youth says blood flowed, tears did not." Boston Globe, March 13: 35.

Kilgannon, Corey. 2023. "Smart, who plotted with a teen lover to kill her husband, loses a parole bid." New York Times, March 30.

Kittredge, Clare. 1991. "A verdict to take to son's grave." Boston Globe, March 23: 1.

—. 1991. "Smart trial garners big TV audience." Boston Globe, March 17: 1.

Richardson, Franci. 1990. "Mrs. Smart absolutely convinced husband surprised thief." Derry News, May 9: 1.

Sawicki, Stephen. 1991. Teach Me to Kill: The Shocking True Story of the Pamela Smart Murder Case. New York, NY: Avon Books.

Schweitzer, Sarah. 2015. "5 years later, shooter to go free: William Flynn was 16 when he was lured into murder by Pamela Smart." Boston Globe, March 13: A1.

State of New Hampshire v. Pamela Smart. 1993. 622 A.2d 1197 (Supreme Court of New Hampshire, February 26).

Wang, Beverley. 2005. "Pamela Smart accomplice released." Concord Monitor, June 15: 10.

West, Nancy. 2016. Breaking Silence: Cecelia Pierce Speaks. October 12. Accessed April 24, 2023. https://www.nhmagazine.com/breaking-silence-cecelia-pierce-speaks/.

West, Nancy, and David Mendelsohn. 2016. Pamela Smart: innocent of (still) guilty. October 13. Accessed April 29, 2023. https://www.nhmagazine.com/pamela-smart-innocent-or-still-guilty/


https://www.bostonherald.com/2015/03/09/brother-of-pamela-smarts-victim-killer-did-his-time/


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Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

Listener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025)


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Mention the Pamela Smart case to someone in New Hampshire, and they'll know exactly what you're talking about. The case captivated the nation in the early 90's and at the center of it all, of course, was Pamela. A New Hampshire native, she had big dreams of becoming somebody and making a name for herself. She moved away from her small town and almost did, but in the name of love she moved back home and settled into her career as a School Administrator. It was via that position that she would meet young sophomore in High School, Billy Flynn. Pam groomed the boy, and had him thinking they were fully in love before she asked him a question that would change both of their lives forever: Would he murder her husband? In part one we'll cover the early life of both Pam and her husband, Gregg Smart, we'll break down how Pam and Billy became involved with each other and just how Pam got Billy to believe that murdering her husband was what it would take for them to be together forever.


Special thank you to the brilliant David White for research assistance


References

Baker, Frank. 1990. "Smart to be jailed until trial." Concord Monitor, August 14: 1.

—. 1990. "Widow charged as accomplice." Concord Monitor, August 2: 14.

Carton, Barbara. 1991. "The Pamela Smart story." Boston Globe, Marcg 21.

1991. NH v. Smart: Opening Statements. Directed by Court TV. Performed by Court TV.

Derry News. 1990. "Family and friends puzzle over murder." Derry News, May 4: 1.

Englade, Ken. 1991. Deadly Lessons. New York, NY: St. Martin's Press.

Gaines, Judith, and Alexander Reid. 1991. "Jurors say tales a key to their decision." Boston Globe, March 23: 1.

Hernandez, Monica. 2023. Accomplice in Smart murder asks for sentence reduction. January 10. Accessed May 1, 2023. https://www.wmur.com/article/smart-murder-vance-lattime-sentence-reduction/42449265.

Hohler, Bob. 1991. "3 guilty in N.H. killing." Boston Globe, January 30: 1.

—. 1991. "Confidant was wired by police." Boston Globe, March 15: 21.

—. 1991. "Smart is found guilty." Boston Globe, March 23: 1.

—. 1991. "Smart pleaded for life, N.H. teen-ager testifies." Boston Globe, March 6: 19.

—. 1991. "Tales of seduction." Boston Globe, March 12: 1.

—. 1990. "Tape offered at Smart hearing." Boston Globe, August 14.

—. 1991. "Witness: Smart asked for tips on reaction." Boston Globe, March 3: 27.

—. 1991. "Youth says blood flowed, tears did not." Boston Globe, March 13: 35.

Kilgannon, Corey. 2023. "Smart, who plotted with a teen lover to kill her husband, loses a parole bid." New York Times, March 30.

Kittredge, Clare. 1991. "A verdict to take to son's grave." Boston Globe, March 23: 1.

—. 1991. "Smart trial garners big TV audience." Boston Globe, March 17: 1.

Richardson, Franci. 1990. "Mrs. Smart absolutely convinced husband surprised thief." Derry News, May 9: 1.

Sawicki, Stephen. 1991. Teach Me to Kill: The Shocking True Story of the Pamela Smart Murder Case. New York, NY: Avon Books.

Schweitzer, Sarah. 2015. "5 years later, shooter to go free: William Flynn was 16 when he was lured into murder by Pamela Smart." Boston Globe, March 13: A1.

State of New Hampshire v. Pamela Smart. 1993. 622 A.2d 1197 (Supreme Court of New Hampshire, February 26).

Wang, Beverley. 2005. "Pamela Smart accomplice released." Concord Monitor, June 15: 10.

West, Nancy. 2016. Breaking Silence: Cecelia Pierce Speaks. October 12. Accessed April 24, 2023. https://www.nhmagazine.com/breaking-silence-cecelia-pierce-speaks/.

West, Nancy, and David Mendelsohn. 2016. Pamela Smart: innocent of (still) guilty. October 13. Accessed April 29, 2023. https://www.nhmagazine.com/pamela-smart-innocent-or-still-guilty/


https://www.bostonherald.com/2015/03/09/brother-of-pamela-smarts-victim-killer-did-his-time/


Thanks to Care/of for being a sponsor of this episode. For 50% off your first Care/of order, go to TakeCareOf.com and enter code MORBID50.

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

Listener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025)


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Published 2023-05-25

Listener Tales 74 with Jon Lee Brody

59 min
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We've got a listener tale up in here!! This week we are joined by Alaina's #bffAF, the one and only Jon Lee Brody. On today's installment we feature stories of spooky road adventures, badass moms, asshole friends & some demon encounters.


Check out That Was Pretty Scary New episodes every Wednesday!


If you have a listener tale that you would like to send in please do so and direct it to Morbidpodcast@gmail.com with "Listener Tale" somewhere in the subject line :)

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

Listener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025)


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We've got a listener tale up in here!! This week we are joined by Alaina's #bffAF, the one and only Jon Lee Brody. On today's installment we feature stories of spooky road adventures, badass moms, asshole friends & some demon encounters.


Check out That Was Pretty Scary New episodes every Wednesday!


If you have a listener tale that you would like to send in please do so and direct it to Morbidpodcast@gmail.com with "Listener Tale" somewhere in the subject line :)

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

Listener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025)


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Published 2023-05-22

H.H. Holmes Part 5

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In the final chapter of our coverage of H.H.Holmes, we talk about the theories connecting him to Jack the Ripper, his final days on the run and a trial and execution that has gone down in history.


Thank you to Dave White for research assistance.

References

Boston Daily Globe. 1895. "At Burlington." Boston Daily Globe, August 8: 7.


—. 1894. "Believes husband dead." Boston Daily Globe, November 20: 1.


—. 1894. "Believes husband dead." Boston Daily Globe, November 20: 1.


—. 1895. "Hard and Selfish." Boston Daily Globe, August 7: 5.


—. 1894. "In the toils." Boston Daily Globe, November 18: 1.


—. 1895. "Mother's Love." Boston Daily Globe, August 6: 5.


Chicago Chronicle. 1895. "Tells of one crime." Chicago Chronicle, July 30: 2.


—. 1895. "Trail of the fiend." Chicago Chronicle, July 21: 1.


Chicago Tribune. 1894. "Spins his own web." Chacgo Tribune, November 22: 1.


—. 1895. "Holmes recognized in Toronto." Chcago Tribune, July 17: 12.


Daily Boston Globe. 1895. "Good Fisherman." Daily Boston Globe, August 9: 4.


Galveston Daily News. 1894. "Two Texas Girls." Galveston Daily News, November 22: 1.


Geyer, Frank P. 1896. The Holmes-Pitezel Case: A History of the Greatest Crime of the Century and of the Search for the Missing Pitezel Children. Philadelphia, PA: Publishers' Union.


Kerns, Rebecca, Tiffany Lewis, and Cailtin McClure. 2012. Herman Webster Mudgett: Dr. H.H. Holmes or Beast of Chicago. Lecture, Radford, VA: Department of Psychology, Radford University.


Larson, Erik. 2003. Devil in the White City: Murder, Magic, and Madness at the Fair that Changed America. New York, NY: Crown Publishers.


Mudgett, Herman W. 1895. Holmes' Own Story. Philadelphia, PA: Burke and McFetridge Company.


New York Times. 1895. "A boy Holmes' first victim." New York Times, July 31: 3.


—. 1896. "Appeal of murderer Holmes." New York Times, February 4: 8.


—. 1895. "Claims an alibi." New York Times, July 17: 1.


—. 1896. "Holmes cool to the end." New York Times, May 8: 1.


—. 1895. "Holmes enters a plea of guilty." New York Times, May 29: 1.


—. 1896. "Holmes in a ton of cement." New York Times, May 9: 1.


—. 1895. "Holmes sentenced to die." New York Times, December 1: 13.


—. 1894. "May be charged with murder." New York Times, November 19: 2.


—. 1895. "The Williams girls' fate." New York Times, July 21: 10.


Philadelphia Inquirer. 1894. "Cause of death a mystery." Philadelphia Inquirer, September 6: 6.


—. 1896. "Holmes' chronology." Philadelphia Inquirer, April 12: 18.


—. 1896. "Holmes Confesses 27 murders." Philadelphia Inquirer, April 26: 1.


Philadelphia Times. 1894. "All looking for Pitezel." Philadelphia Times, November 21: 1.


—. 1894. "Perry's Peculiar Death." Philadelphia Times, September 5: 3.


Selzer, Adam. 2017. H.H. Holmes: The True History of the White City Devil. New York, NY: Skyhorse Publishing.


St. Louis Post-Dispatch. 1894. "Arrested Again." St. Louis Post-Dispatch, July 29: 8.



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In the final chapter of our coverage of H.H.Holmes, we talk about the theories connecting him to Jack the Ripper, his final days on the run and a trial and execution that has gone down in history.


Thank you to Dave White for research assistance.

References

Boston Daily Globe. 1895. "At Burlington." Boston Daily Globe, August 8: 7.


—. 1894. "Believes husband dead." Boston Daily Globe, November 20: 1.


—. 1894. "Believes husband dead." Boston Daily Globe, November 20: 1.


—. 1895. "Hard and Selfish." Boston Daily Globe, August 7: 5.


—. 1894. "In the toils." Boston Daily Globe, November 18: 1.


—. 1895. "Mother's Love." Boston Daily Globe, August 6: 5.


Chicago Chronicle. 1895. "Tells of one crime." Chicago Chronicle, July 30: 2.


—. 1895. "Trail of the fiend." Chicago Chronicle, July 21: 1.


Chicago Tribune. 1894. "Spins his own web." Chacgo Tribune, November 22: 1.


—. 1895. "Holmes recognized in Toronto." Chcago Tribune, July 17: 12.


Daily Boston Globe. 1895. "Good Fisherman." Daily Boston Globe, August 9: 4.


Galveston Daily News. 1894. "Two Texas Girls." Galveston Daily News, November 22: 1.


Geyer, Frank P. 1896. The Holmes-Pitezel Case: A History of the Greatest Crime of the Century and of the Search for the Missing Pitezel Children. Philadelphia, PA: Publishers' Union.


Kerns, Rebecca, Tiffany Lewis, and Cailtin McClure. 2012. Herman Webster Mudgett: Dr. H.H. Holmes or Beast of Chicago. Lecture, Radford, VA: Department of Psychology, Radford University.


Larson, Erik. 2003. Devil in the White City: Murder, Magic, and Madness at the Fair that Changed America. New York, NY: Crown Publishers.


Mudgett, Herman W. 1895. Holmes' Own Story. Philadelphia, PA: Burke and McFetridge Company.


New York Times. 1895. "A boy Holmes' first victim." New York Times, July 31: 3.


—. 1896. "Appeal of murderer Holmes." New York Times, February 4: 8.


—. 1895. "Claims an alibi." New York Times, July 17: 1.


—. 1896. "Holmes cool to the end." New York Times, May 8: 1.


—. 1895. "Holmes enters a plea of guilty." New York Times, May 29: 1.


—. 1896. "Holmes in a ton of cement." New York Times, May 9: 1.


—. 1895. "Holmes sentenced to die." New York Times, December 1: 13.


—. 1894. "May be charged with murder." New York Times, November 19: 2.


—. 1895. "The Williams girls' fate." New York Times, July 21: 10.


Philadelphia Inquirer. 1894. "Cause of death a mystery." Philadelphia Inquirer, September 6: 6.


—. 1896. "Holmes' chronology." Philadelphia Inquirer, April 12: 18.


—. 1896. "Holmes Confesses 27 murders." Philadelphia Inquirer, April 26: 1.


Philadelphia Times. 1894. "All looking for Pitezel." Philadelphia Times, November 21: 1.


—. 1894. "Perry's Peculiar Death." Philadelphia Times, September 5: 3.


Selzer, Adam. 2017. H.H. Holmes: The True History of the White City Devil. New York, NY: Skyhorse Publishing.


St. Louis Post-Dispatch. 1894. "Arrested Again." St. Louis Post-Dispatch, July 29: 8.



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H.H. Holmes Part 4

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In Part 4 of H.H. Holmes, it gets even wilder. This man has now headed to Texas with his 500th wife and is ready to join his partner in crime, Benjamin Pitezel to steal Minnie Williams' inherited land. He has plans. He plans to now build a Texas murder castle like the one he created in Chicago. But first, Pitezel and Holmes need to scheme their way into a payday, using an insurance scam and faking Pitezel's death. When it looks like Pitezel might back out, things go sour and Holmes goes on a murder spree that brings him to several states and even Canada. Strap in, friends. It's complicated and horrific here.


Thank you to Dave White for research assistance.


Resources:

Philadelphia Inquirer. 1894. "Cause of death a mystery." Philadelphia Inquirer, September 6: 6.

—. 1896. "Holmes' chronology." Philadelphia Inquirer, April 12: 18.

—. 1896. "Holmes Confesses 27 murders." Philadelphia Inquirer, April 26: 1.

Philadelphia Times. 1894. "All looking for Pitezel." Philadelphia Times, November 21: 1.

—. 1894. "Perry's Peculiar Death." Philadelphia Times, September 5: 3.

Selzer, Adam. 2017. H.H. Holmes: The True History of the White City Devil. New York, NY: Skyhorse Publishing.

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

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Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

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In Part 4 of H.H. Holmes, it gets even wilder. This man has now headed to Texas with his 500th wife and is ready to join his partner in crime, Benjamin Pitezel to steal Minnie Williams' inherited land. He has plans. He plans to now build a Texas murder castle like the one he created in Chicago. But first, Pitezel and Holmes need to scheme their way into a payday, using an insurance scam and faking Pitezel's death. When it looks like Pitezel might back out, things go sour and Holmes goes on a murder spree that brings him to several states and even Canada. Strap in, friends. It's complicated and horrific here.


Thank you to Dave White for research assistance.


Resources:

Philadelphia Inquirer. 1894. "Cause of death a mystery." Philadelphia Inquirer, September 6: 6.

—. 1896. "Holmes' chronology." Philadelphia Inquirer, April 12: 18.

—. 1896. "Holmes Confesses 27 murders." Philadelphia Inquirer, April 26: 1.

Philadelphia Times. 1894. "All looking for Pitezel." Philadelphia Times, November 21: 1.

—. 1894. "Perry's Peculiar Death." Philadelphia Times, September 5: 3.

Selzer, Adam. 2017. H.H. Holmes: The True History of the White City Devil. New York, NY: Skyhorse Publishing.

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H.H. Holmes Part 3

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In Part 3 H.H. Holmes isn't done being adulterous and he's taking evil to another level. He's conning wives left and right and then takes to arson to earn a quick buck. Today, we go deeper into the design of his "murder castle" while also watching this con man/killer descend further into madness. What will be his undoing? Stay tuned...


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In Part 3 H.H. Holmes isn't done being adulterous and he's taking evil to another level. He's conning wives left and right and then takes to arson to earn a quick buck. Today, we go deeper into the design of his "murder castle" while also watching this con man/killer descend further into madness. What will be his undoing? Stay tuned...


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H.H. Holmes Part 2

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In part 2 we talk about the infamous "Murder Castle" and begin to dive into the crimes committed there. Holmes' brutality and savagery knew no bounds and now he has a whole building to do it in.


Thank you to Dave White for research assistance!

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In part 2 we talk about the infamous "Murder Castle" and begin to dive into the crimes committed there. Holmes' brutality and savagery knew no bounds and now he has a whole building to do it in.


Thank you to Dave White for research assistance!

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H.H. Holmes Part 1

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When Boston police arrested Dr. Henry Howard Holmes in a West End boarding house on November 17, 1894, they assumed they had apprehended an interstate criminal guilty of defrauding the Fidelity Insurance company of $10,000 and of being a horse thief in Texas. Holmes had been tracked to New England by the Pinkerton Detective Agency, who had suspected him of other crimes in various cities across the country; yet even the most seasoned and creative detective couldn’t have imagined the horrific scope and magnitude of crimes he’d committed.


Thanks Dave for this magnificent synopsis!


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When Boston police arrested Dr. Henry Howard Holmes in a West End boarding house on November 17, 1894, they assumed they had apprehended an interstate criminal guilty of defrauding the Fidelity Insurance company of $10,000 and of being a horse thief in Texas. Holmes had been tracked to New England by the Pinkerton Detective Agency, who had suspected him of other crimes in various cities across the country; yet even the most seasoned and creative detective couldn’t have imagined the horrific scope and magnitude of crimes he’d committed.


Thanks Dave for this magnificent synopsis!


Thanks to Care/of for being a sponsor of this episode. For 50% off your first Care/of order, go to TakeCareOf.com and enter code MORBID50.

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The Bonebreaker Case

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When the body of fourteen-year-old Chris Steiner was discovered floating in the Wisconsin River on July 10, 1994, it brought a heartbreaking end to the search for the boy who had mysteriously disappeared from his Baraboo, Wisconsin home a week earlier. Officially, the cause of death was drowning. His death was a tragic accident, and nothing more.

But was it? A year later, a harrowing 911 call from 14 year old Thad Phillips would bring to light a monster in the boys' own neighborhood, one that would change the ruling in Chris Steiner's death and horrify the community forever.

References

Associated Press. 1997. Court awards $21M in torture case. October 14. Accessed April 6, 2023. https://apnews.com/article/5ded061aa228f6b8a597557fb8724258.

—. 1995. "Teen-age suspect in kidnapping-torture was taunted by peers about 1994 death." Wisconsin State Journal, August 11: 24.

Chickering, Pam. 1994. "Baraboo teen-ager missing." Baraboo News Republic, July 8: 1.

Clark, Anita. 1996. "Expert: Clark is a sadist, not insane." Wisconsin State Journal, September 18.

Dvorak, Rich, and Troy Laack. 1994. "Clue's sought in teen's death." Baraboo News Republic, July 13: 1.

—. 1994. "Missing youth's body found." Baraboo News Republic, July 12: 1.

Elbow, Steven. 1997. "Expert witness denied voice at Clark trial." Baraboo News Republic, November 7: 1.

—. 1996. "Formal charges filed in Steiner case." Portage Daily Register, September 26: 1.

Grunig, Tara. 1995. "Clark charged as adult in Phillips case." The Daily Register, September 8: 1.

Jaeger, Richard. 1995. "Autopsy discovers broken bones." Wisconsin State Journal, August 5: 1.

—. 1995. "Kidnapping-torture similar to year-old case." Wisconsin State Journal, August 3: 1.

—. 1995. "Teen questioned in '94 drowning." Wisconsin State Journal, August 4: 1D-2D.

O'Connell, Mike. 1995. "13-year-old boy kidnapped, tortured." Baraboo News Republic, August 2: 1.

—. 1996. "Clark's defense." Baraboo News Republic, September 17: 1.

—. 1996. "'Do you know Chris Steiner'." Baraboo News Republic, September 17: 1.

—. 1996. "Jurors bring swift decision; Clark faces 110 hard years." Baraboo News Republic, September 19: 1.

—. 1995. "Report confirms incident details." Baraboo News Republic, August 2: 1.

Seely, Ron. 1994. "Teen's parents left to wonder." Wisconsin State Journal, August 7: 21.

State of Wisconsin v. Joseph C. Clark. 1998. 97-3584-CR (Court of Appeals of Wisconsin, September 3).

State of Wisconsin v. Joseph C. Clark. 1999. 98-2402-CR-NM (Court of Appeals of Wisconsin, March 25).

Wisconsin State Journal. 1996. "Broken-bome assault case brings plea of no contest." Wisconsin State Journal, September 6.

—. 1996. "Shooting delays murder hearing ." Wisconsin State Journal, October 11.

—. 1997. "Teen killer who tortured victims gets life in prison." Wisconsin State Journal, November 21.


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When the body of fourteen-year-old Chris Steiner was discovered floating in the Wisconsin River on July 10, 1994, it brought a heartbreaking end to the search for the boy who had mysteriously disappeared from his Baraboo, Wisconsin home a week earlier. Officially, the cause of death was drowning. His death was a tragic accident, and nothing more.

But was it? A year later, a harrowing 911 call from 14 year old Thad Phillips would bring to light a monster in the boys' own neighborhood, one that would change the ruling in Chris Steiner's death and horrify the community forever.

References

Associated Press. 1997. Court awards $21M in torture case. October 14. Accessed April 6, 2023. https://apnews.com/article/5ded061aa228f6b8a597557fb8724258.

—. 1995. "Teen-age suspect in kidnapping-torture was taunted by peers about 1994 death." Wisconsin State Journal, August 11: 24.

Chickering, Pam. 1994. "Baraboo teen-ager missing." Baraboo News Republic, July 8: 1.

Clark, Anita. 1996. "Expert: Clark is a sadist, not insane." Wisconsin State Journal, September 18.

Dvorak, Rich, and Troy Laack. 1994. "Clue's sought in teen's death." Baraboo News Republic, July 13: 1.

—. 1994. "Missing youth's body found." Baraboo News Republic, July 12: 1.

Elbow, Steven. 1997. "Expert witness denied voice at Clark trial." Baraboo News Republic, November 7: 1.

—. 1996. "Formal charges filed in Steiner case." Portage Daily Register, September 26: 1.

Grunig, Tara. 1995. "Clark charged as adult in Phillips case." The Daily Register, September 8: 1.

Jaeger, Richard. 1995. "Autopsy discovers broken bones." Wisconsin State Journal, August 5: 1.

—. 1995. "Kidnapping-torture similar to year-old case." Wisconsin State Journal, August 3: 1.

—. 1995. "Teen questioned in '94 drowning." Wisconsin State Journal, August 4: 1D-2D.

O'Connell, Mike. 1995. "13-year-old boy kidnapped, tortured." Baraboo News Republic, August 2: 1.

—. 1996. "Clark's defense." Baraboo News Republic, September 17: 1.

—. 1996. "'Do you know Chris Steiner'." Baraboo News Republic, September 17: 1.

—. 1996. "Jurors bring swift decision; Clark faces 110 hard years." Baraboo News Republic, September 19: 1.

—. 1995. "Report confirms incident details." Baraboo News Republic, August 2: 1.

Seely, Ron. 1994. "Teen's parents left to wonder." Wisconsin State Journal, August 7: 21.

State of Wisconsin v. Joseph C. Clark. 1998. 97-3584-CR (Court of Appeals of Wisconsin, September 3).

State of Wisconsin v. Joseph C. Clark. 1999. 98-2402-CR-NM (Court of Appeals of Wisconsin, March 25).

Wisconsin State Journal. 1996. "Broken-bome assault case brings plea of no contest." Wisconsin State Journal, September 6.

—. 1996. "Shooting delays murder hearing ." Wisconsin State Journal, October 11.

—. 1997. "Teen killer who tortured victims gets life in prison." Wisconsin State Journal, November 21.


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The Amato Family Murders

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On the morning of January 25, 2019, Seminole County sheriff’s deputies were dispatched to a home in Chuluota, Florida to conduct a well-being check on thirty-one-year-old Cody Amato, who failed to show up for work that day. Upon entering the home, officers discovered the bodies of Cody, Chad, and Margaret Amato, all dead from apparent gunshot wounds—there were no signs of a break-in and nothing was missing. The crime scene looked as though it had been staged to look like a murder-suicide and suspicion quickly fell on the Amato’s youngest son, Grant, who was missing from the home.


Thank you so much to the lovely David White for research assistance

References

Dukes, Amanda. 2019. Grant Amato, man found guilty of killing family members, sentenced to life in prison. August 13. Accessed March 22, 2023. https://www.wesh.com/article/penalty-phase-for-grant-amato-to-begin-monday/28670352#.


Seminole County Sheriff's Office. 2018. CJIS Report. Missing Person; Well-Being, Chuluota, FL: Seminole County Sheriff's Office.


State of Florida vs. Grant Tiernan Amato. 2019. 20190000740 (Circuit Court of the Eighteenth Judicial Circuit in and for Seminole County, Florida, January 28).


Swenson, Kyle. 2019. "He spent $200,000 on a Bulgarian 'cam girl.'." Washington Post, January 29.


Williams, Michael. 2019. "Accused killer seeks millonaire for help with jail bond, emails reveal." Orlando Sentinel, May 15: A1.


—. 2019. "Amato's lawyers ask judge to sequester jruy." Orlando Sentinel, June 12: B2.


—. 2019. "Grant Amato verdict: Guilty of first-degree murder in killings of family." Orlando Sentinel, July 31.


—. 2019. "'I have become somewhat of a celebrity,' accused killer Grant Amato says in letter." Orlando Sentinel, April 27: B2.


—. 2019. "'I want to believe you,' surviving sibling says." Orlando Sentinel, March 28: A1.


—. 2019. "Judge grants $750k bond for suspect in family murders." Orlando Sentinel, April 26: B1.


—. 2019. "Obsession, money, lies tore this family apart." Orlando Sentinel, July 14: A1.


—. 2019. "Records give glimpse into Chulota man's relationship with model." Orlando Sentinel, May 30: B1.


Williams, Michael, Jeff Weiner, and Gal Lotan. 2019. "'I hate myself for what I did"." Orlando Sentinel, April 16: A1.


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On the morning of January 25, 2019, Seminole County sheriff’s deputies were dispatched to a home in Chuluota, Florida to conduct a well-being check on thirty-one-year-old Cody Amato, who failed to show up for work that day. Upon entering the home, officers discovered the bodies of Cody, Chad, and Margaret Amato, all dead from apparent gunshot wounds—there were no signs of a break-in and nothing was missing. The crime scene looked as though it had been staged to look like a murder-suicide and suspicion quickly fell on the Amato’s youngest son, Grant, who was missing from the home.


Thank you so much to the lovely David White for research assistance

References

Dukes, Amanda. 2019. Grant Amato, man found guilty of killing family members, sentenced to life in prison. August 13. Accessed March 22, 2023. https://www.wesh.com/article/penalty-phase-for-grant-amato-to-begin-monday/28670352#.


Seminole County Sheriff's Office. 2018. CJIS Report. Missing Person; Well-Being, Chuluota, FL: Seminole County Sheriff's Office.


State of Florida vs. Grant Tiernan Amato. 2019. 20190000740 (Circuit Court of the Eighteenth Judicial Circuit in and for Seminole County, Florida, January 28).


Swenson, Kyle. 2019. "He spent $200,000 on a Bulgarian 'cam girl.'." Washington Post, January 29.


Williams, Michael. 2019. "Accused killer seeks millonaire for help with jail bond, emails reveal." Orlando Sentinel, May 15: A1.


—. 2019. "Amato's lawyers ask judge to sequester jruy." Orlando Sentinel, June 12: B2.


—. 2019. "Grant Amato verdict: Guilty of first-degree murder in killings of family." Orlando Sentinel, July 31.


—. 2019. "'I have become somewhat of a celebrity,' accused killer Grant Amato says in letter." Orlando Sentinel, April 27: B2.


—. 2019. "'I want to believe you,' surviving sibling says." Orlando Sentinel, March 28: A1.


—. 2019. "Judge grants $750k bond for suspect in family murders." Orlando Sentinel, April 26: B1.


—. 2019. "Obsession, money, lies tore this family apart." Orlando Sentinel, July 14: A1.


—. 2019. "Records give glimpse into Chulota man's relationship with model." Orlando Sentinel, May 30: B1.


Williams, Michael, Jeff Weiner, and Gal Lotan. 2019. "'I hate myself for what I did"." Orlando Sentinel, April 16: A1.


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We have another fantastic batch of listener tales about the time some of our listeners MET a MURDERER!!! Only this one is super special because we are joined by the exquisite Bailey Sarian!! How fucking exciting. This batch of tales includes a tattoo from a murderer, a present from a murderer and oh no... a date with... a SERIAL KILLER!


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We have another fantastic batch of listener tales about the time some of our listeners MET a MURDERER!!! Only this one is super special because we are joined by the exquisite Bailey Sarian!! How fucking exciting. This batch of tales includes a tattoo from a murderer, a present from a murderer and oh no... a date with... a SERIAL KILLER!


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Published 2023-04-24

Curses: Micah Rood & The Omen

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Today we are looking at CURSES. We talk about the curse of Micah Rood and his bloody apples which stems from murder, execution and a haunting! Then, we get into the truly real, fatal and terrifying events surrounding the production of the horror film, The Omen. Deaths, plane crashes and bombings? Was it really the wrath of the devil or something else entirely?

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

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Today we are looking at CURSES. We talk about the curse of Micah Rood and his bloody apples which stems from murder, execution and a haunting! Then, we get into the truly real, fatal and terrifying events surrounding the production of the horror film, The Omen. Deaths, plane crashes and bombings? Was it really the wrath of the devil or something else entirely?

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

Listener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025)


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Published 2023-04-20

Doris Duke and the Murder of Eddie Tirella

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On a cold October afternoon in 1966, billionaire heiress Doris Duke returned to her palatial Newport estate in the company of friend and interior decorator Eduardo Tirella, stopping her car just outside the large iron gate that barred entrance to the driveway. Having offered to open the gate, he stepped out of the car and walked toward the gate, when the car began rolling forward, knocking Eduardo to the ground and crushing him under the two-ton weight of Duke’s station wagon. Within four days of Tirella’s death, the Newport Police had closed the case, calling it an “unfortunate accident,” but the residents of Newport, Rhode Island weren’t as convinced.


Thank you so much to the remarkable David White for research assistance!


References

Duca, Rob. 2021. "Newport police closed Doris Duke case, again." Newport This Week, November 24.

Duke, Pony, and Jason Thomas. 1996. Too Rich: The Family Secrets of Doris Duke. New York, NY: Harper Collins.

Lance, Peter. 2021. Homicide at Rough Point: The Untold Story of How Doris Duke, the Richest Woman In America, Got Away with Murder. Auburn, NH: Tenacity Media.

—. 2021. The triple 'murder' of Eduardo Tirella, gay confidant of Doris Duke. November 29. https://www.advocate.com/commentary/2021/11/29/triple-murder-eduardo-tirella-gay-confidant-doris-duke-newport-rhode-island.

—. 2021. "The Doris Duke Cold Case Reopens: The Only Known Eyewitness Speaks for the First Time." Vanity Fair, August 5.

Mansfield, Stephanie. 1992. The Richest Girl in the World: The Extravagant Life and Fast Times of Doris Duke. New York, NY: G.P. Putnam & Sons.

New York Times. 1964. "Divorce suit filed against Doris Duke." New York Times, January 11: 14.

—. 1935. "Doris Duke is wed to J.H.R. Cromwell." New York Times, February 14: 23.

—. 1966. "Duke estate death ruled an accident." New York Times, October 12: 25.

Newport Daily News. 1967. "Crash victim's kin asks $2.5 million of Doris Duke." Newport Daily News, December 8: 1.

—. 1966. "Death of Miss Duke's friend ruled 'unfortunate accident'." Newport Daily News, October 10: 1.

—. 1966. "Doris Duke kills friend in crash." Newport Daily News, October 8: 1.

—. 1966. "Press blasts police chief Radice on handling public information." Newport Daily News, November 3: 1.

Schwarz, Ted, and Tom Rybak. 1997. Trust No One: The Glamorous Life and Bizarre Death of Doris Duke. New York, NY: St. Martin's Press.


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On a cold October afternoon in 1966, billionaire heiress Doris Duke returned to her palatial Newport estate in the company of friend and interior decorator Eduardo Tirella, stopping her car just outside the large iron gate that barred entrance to the driveway. Having offered to open the gate, he stepped out of the car and walked toward the gate, when the car began rolling forward, knocking Eduardo to the ground and crushing him under the two-ton weight of Duke’s station wagon. Within four days of Tirella’s death, the Newport Police had closed the case, calling it an “unfortunate accident,” but the residents of Newport, Rhode Island weren’t as convinced.


Thank you so much to the remarkable David White for research assistance!


References

Duca, Rob. 2021. "Newport police closed Doris Duke case, again." Newport This Week, November 24.

Duke, Pony, and Jason Thomas. 1996. Too Rich: The Family Secrets of Doris Duke. New York, NY: Harper Collins.

Lance, Peter. 2021. Homicide at Rough Point: The Untold Story of How Doris Duke, the Richest Woman In America, Got Away with Murder. Auburn, NH: Tenacity Media.

—. 2021. The triple 'murder' of Eduardo Tirella, gay confidant of Doris Duke. November 29. https://www.advocate.com/commentary/2021/11/29/triple-murder-eduardo-tirella-gay-confidant-doris-duke-newport-rhode-island.

—. 2021. "The Doris Duke Cold Case Reopens: The Only Known Eyewitness Speaks for the First Time." Vanity Fair, August 5.

Mansfield, Stephanie. 1992. The Richest Girl in the World: The Extravagant Life and Fast Times of Doris Duke. New York, NY: G.P. Putnam & Sons.

New York Times. 1964. "Divorce suit filed against Doris Duke." New York Times, January 11: 14.

—. 1935. "Doris Duke is wed to J.H.R. Cromwell." New York Times, February 14: 23.

—. 1966. "Duke estate death ruled an accident." New York Times, October 12: 25.

Newport Daily News. 1967. "Crash victim's kin asks $2.5 million of Doris Duke." Newport Daily News, December 8: 1.

—. 1966. "Death of Miss Duke's friend ruled 'unfortunate accident'." Newport Daily News, October 10: 1.

—. 1966. "Doris Duke kills friend in crash." Newport Daily News, October 8: 1.

—. 1966. "Press blasts police chief Radice on handling public information." Newport Daily News, November 3: 1.

Schwarz, Ted, and Tom Rybak. 1997. Trust No One: The Glamorous Life and Bizarre Death of Doris Duke. New York, NY: St. Martin's Press.


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Some say Lavinia would lure men to the inn and lull them into a false sense of calm, before robbing and killing them, then dumping their bodies in the cellar under Six-Mile House. Others say Lavina would drug the weary travelers with a special tea, before pulling the lever on a trap door and dropping the men into the basement, where they would be robbed and killed by John Fisher. And still others believed Lavina guilty of much darker practices involving the devil.


But stories—especially local legends—have a way of shifting and changing over time, exchanging mundane facts for sensational speculations, and in this case, begging the question, who was the real Lavinia Fisher and just what was she guilty of?


Thank you Dave White for research assistance.


Special thanks to Suruthi and Hannah from RedHanded for joining us today! Listen to RedHanded wherever you get your podcasts, or listen early and ad-free on Amazon Music: https://link.chtbl.com/MorbidRedHanded

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Some say Lavinia would lure men to the inn and lull them into a false sense of calm, before robbing and killing them, then dumping their bodies in the cellar under Six-Mile House. Others say Lavina would drug the weary travelers with a special tea, before pulling the lever on a trap door and dropping the men into the basement, where they would be robbed and killed by John Fisher. And still others believed Lavina guilty of much darker practices involving the devil.


But stories—especially local legends—have a way of shifting and changing over time, exchanging mundane facts for sensational speculations, and in this case, begging the question, who was the real Lavinia Fisher and just what was she guilty of?


Thank you Dave White for research assistance.


Special thanks to Suruthi and Hannah from RedHanded for joining us today! Listen to RedHanded wherever you get your podcasts, or listen early and ad-free on Amazon Music: https://link.chtbl.com/MorbidRedHanded

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

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Arthur’s Seat Coffins

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In late June 1836, a group of boys hunting rabbits on a hillside on Arthur’s Seat, Edinburgh, discovered a small cave hidden behind three slabs of slate, each piece carved into a rough conical shape. When they moved the pieces of stone, they found hidden within seventeen hand-carved miniature coffins, each containing hand carved figures. For nearly two hundred years, the mystery of the miniature coffins has baffled and delighted tourists and locals alike, all wondering who carved the coffins and why. Theories have been put forth claiming they’re everything from a satanic spell or witchcraft to an ancient custom or even the work of notorious Scottish serial killers and body-snatchers Burke and Hare.


Many thanks to the smashing David White for research assistance :)


References

Blackburn Standard. 1836. "Strange discovery." Blackburn Standard, 07 27.

Brown, Allan. 2000. "Coffins that came back from the grave." Sunday Times, September 17.

Chapman, Robert. 1958. "Seventeen Tiny Coffins." Derby Evening Telegraph, July 04: 18.

Dash, Mike. 2013. Edinburgh’s Mysterious Miniature Coffins. April 15. Accessed March 18, 2023. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/edinburghs-mysterious-miniature-coffins-22371426/.

Dundee Courier. 1836. "The Lilliputian coffins." Dundee Courier, August 25.

Harrison, Jody. 2018. "Edinburgh coffin-doll mystery 'cracked at last', claims writer." The Herald, April 17.

Horton, Julia. 2005. "Buried secrets of the city murder dolls." Edinburgh Evening News, December 2.

National Museums of Scotland. n.d. The mystery of the miniature coffins. Accessed March 18, 2023. https://www.nms.ac.uk/explore-our-collections/stories/scottish-history-and-archaeology/mystery-of-the-miniature-coffins/.

O'Neill, Emma. 2019. Sevene facts you may not know about Arthur's Seat. February 28. Accessed March 19, 2023. https://www.scotsman.com/arts-and-culture/seven-facts-you-may-not-know-about-arthurs-seat-1494785.


Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

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In late June 1836, a group of boys hunting rabbits on a hillside on Arthur’s Seat, Edinburgh, discovered a small cave hidden behind three slabs of slate, each piece carved into a rough conical shape. When they moved the pieces of stone, they found hidden within seventeen hand-carved miniature coffins, each containing hand carved figures. For nearly two hundred years, the mystery of the miniature coffins has baffled and delighted tourists and locals alike, all wondering who carved the coffins and why. Theories have been put forth claiming they’re everything from a satanic spell or witchcraft to an ancient custom or even the work of notorious Scottish serial killers and body-snatchers Burke and Hare.


Many thanks to the smashing David White for research assistance :)


References

Blackburn Standard. 1836. "Strange discovery." Blackburn Standard, 07 27.

Brown, Allan. 2000. "Coffins that came back from the grave." Sunday Times, September 17.

Chapman, Robert. 1958. "Seventeen Tiny Coffins." Derby Evening Telegraph, July 04: 18.

Dash, Mike. 2013. Edinburgh’s Mysterious Miniature Coffins. April 15. Accessed March 18, 2023. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/edinburghs-mysterious-miniature-coffins-22371426/.

Dundee Courier. 1836. "The Lilliputian coffins." Dundee Courier, August 25.

Harrison, Jody. 2018. "Edinburgh coffin-doll mystery 'cracked at last', claims writer." The Herald, April 17.

Horton, Julia. 2005. "Buried secrets of the city murder dolls." Edinburgh Evening News, December 2.

National Museums of Scotland. n.d. The mystery of the miniature coffins. Accessed March 18, 2023. https://www.nms.ac.uk/explore-our-collections/stories/scottish-history-and-archaeology/mystery-of-the-miniature-coffins/.

O'Neill, Emma. 2019. Sevene facts you may not know about Arthur's Seat. February 28. Accessed March 19, 2023. https://www.scotsman.com/arts-and-culture/seven-facts-you-may-not-know-about-arthurs-seat-1494785.


Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

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The Murder of Daniel Brophy

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On Saturday June 2, 2018, students at the Oregon Culinary Institute (OCI) arrived at class that morning to find their instructor, sixty-three-year-old Daniel Brophy, dead from gunshot wounds to the back and chest. With more than fifty years’ experience in the culinary field, Brophy was a popular chef and instructor and, while detectives couldn’t rule out a disgruntled student, no one could imagine his killer was a member of the OCI community.


A massive thank you to Caleb for joining Ash on today's episode! Go check out Scream! and Horrorsoup anywhere you listen to podcasts.


Thank you to the incredible David White for research assistance!



References

Court TV. 2022. OR v. Crampton-Brophy: Romance Novelist Murder Trial. June 15. Accessed March 8, 2023. https://www.courttv.com/news/or-v-crampton-brophy-romance-novelist-murder-trial/.

Flynn, Meagan. 2018. "Novelist who wrote about 'How to Murder Your Husband' charged with murdering her husband." Washington Post, September 12.

Green, Aimee. 2019. Details of murder case against romance writer should become public in 2 weeks, judge rules. April 5. Accessed March 12, 2023. https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2019/04/details-of-murder-case-against-romance-writer-should-become-public-in-2-weeks-judge-rules.html.

Karimi, Faith. 2022. "This romance novelist is on trial in her husband's killing. It's like a plot twist from one of her books." CNN Wire, April 7.

Kavanaugh, Shane Dixon. 2019. Gun parts bought online at center of Oregon romance novelist’s suspected spouse slaying. April 4. Accessed March 12, 2023. https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2019/04/gun-parts-bought-online-at-center-of-oregon-romance-novelists-suspected-spouse-slaying.html.

—. 2018. "Romance novelist suspected of slaying husband." Longview Daily News, September 7: B2.

—. 2020. No coronavirus ‘guest house’ for Oregon romance writer charged with murdering husband, judge rules. April 10. Accessed March 12, 2023. https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/2020/04/no-coronavirus-guest-house-for-oregon-romance-writer-charged-with-murdering-husband-judge-rules.html.

NBC News. 2022. Dateline. Television, New York, NY: NBC News.

O'Rourke, Ciara. 2019. A Beloved Culinary Instructor Was Murdered. What Happened Next Was Stranger Than Fiction. May 31. Accessed March 10, 2023. https://www.pdxmonthly.com/news-and-city-life/2019/05/a-beloved-culinary-instructor-was-murdered-what-happened-next-was-stranger-than-fiction.

Paul, Maria Luisa. 2022. "'How to Murder Your Husband' writer sentenced to life for." Washington Post, June 14.

Sparling, Zane. 2022. Love vs. money: Lawyers make final arguments in Oregon romance writer’s murder trial. May 22. Accessed March 12, 2023. https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2022/05/love-vs-money-lawyers-make-final-arguments-in-oregon-romance-writers-murder-trial.html.

—. 2022. Oregon romance novelist grilled on amnesia claim, missing gun barrel on crucial day in her murder trial. May 18. Accessed 2023 12, 2022. https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2022/05/oregon-romance-novelist-grilled-on-amnesia-claim-missing-gun-barrel-on-crucial-day-in-her-murder-trial.html.

—. 2022. Spotlight shines on Oregon romance novelist accused of killing chef husband. May 23. Accessed March 8, 2023. https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2022/05/spotlight-shines-on-oregon-romance-novelist-accused-of-killing-chef-husband-who-is-nancy-crampton-brophy.html.

Voorhees, Carolyn. 2018. Former students, friends mourn loss of Oregon Culinary Institute chef killed in shooting. June 3. Accessed March 8, 2023. https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2018/06/former_students_friends_mourn.html.


Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

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On Saturday June 2, 2018, students at the Oregon Culinary Institute (OCI) arrived at class that morning to find their instructor, sixty-three-year-old Daniel Brophy, dead from gunshot wounds to the back and chest. With more than fifty years’ experience in the culinary field, Brophy was a popular chef and instructor and, while detectives couldn’t rule out a disgruntled student, no one could imagine his killer was a member of the OCI community.


A massive thank you to Caleb for joining Ash on today's episode! Go check out Scream! and Horrorsoup anywhere you listen to podcasts.


Thank you to the incredible David White for research assistance!



References

Court TV. 2022. OR v. Crampton-Brophy: Romance Novelist Murder Trial. June 15. Accessed March 8, 2023. https://www.courttv.com/news/or-v-crampton-brophy-romance-novelist-murder-trial/.

Flynn, Meagan. 2018. "Novelist who wrote about 'How to Murder Your Husband' charged with murdering her husband." Washington Post, September 12.

Green, Aimee. 2019. Details of murder case against romance writer should become public in 2 weeks, judge rules. April 5. Accessed March 12, 2023. https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2019/04/details-of-murder-case-against-romance-writer-should-become-public-in-2-weeks-judge-rules.html.

Karimi, Faith. 2022. "This romance novelist is on trial in her husband's killing. It's like a plot twist from one of her books." CNN Wire, April 7.

Kavanaugh, Shane Dixon. 2019. Gun parts bought online at center of Oregon romance novelist’s suspected spouse slaying. April 4. Accessed March 12, 2023. https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2019/04/gun-parts-bought-online-at-center-of-oregon-romance-novelists-suspected-spouse-slaying.html.

—. 2018. "Romance novelist suspected of slaying husband." Longview Daily News, September 7: B2.

—. 2020. No coronavirus ‘guest house’ for Oregon romance writer charged with murdering husband, judge rules. April 10. Accessed March 12, 2023. https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/2020/04/no-coronavirus-guest-house-for-oregon-romance-writer-charged-with-murdering-husband-judge-rules.html.

NBC News. 2022. Dateline. Television, New York, NY: NBC News.

O'Rourke, Ciara. 2019. A Beloved Culinary Instructor Was Murdered. What Happened Next Was Stranger Than Fiction. May 31. Accessed March 10, 2023. https://www.pdxmonthly.com/news-and-city-life/2019/05/a-beloved-culinary-instructor-was-murdered-what-happened-next-was-stranger-than-fiction.

Paul, Maria Luisa. 2022. "'How to Murder Your Husband' writer sentenced to life for." Washington Post, June 14.

Sparling, Zane. 2022. Love vs. money: Lawyers make final arguments in Oregon romance writer’s murder trial. May 22. Accessed March 12, 2023. https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2022/05/love-vs-money-lawyers-make-final-arguments-in-oregon-romance-writers-murder-trial.html.

—. 2022. Oregon romance novelist grilled on amnesia claim, missing gun barrel on crucial day in her murder trial. May 18. Accessed 2023 12, 2022. https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2022/05/oregon-romance-novelist-grilled-on-amnesia-claim-missing-gun-barrel-on-crucial-day-in-her-murder-trial.html.

—. 2022. Spotlight shines on Oregon romance novelist accused of killing chef husband. May 23. Accessed March 8, 2023. https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2022/05/spotlight-shines-on-oregon-romance-novelist-accused-of-killing-chef-husband-who-is-nancy-crampton-brophy.html.

Voorhees, Carolyn. 2018. Former students, friends mourn loss of Oregon Culinary Institute chef killed in shooting. June 3. Accessed March 8, 2023. https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2018/06/former_students_friends_mourn.html.


Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

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Burke & Hare Part 2

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In the conclusion of the horrific crimes of William Burke and William Hare, we see them get somehow even more brutal. As time went on and they kept profiting off their violent tendencies, they began to get reckless and put their entire scheme and freedom at risk. In the end, only partial justice was served. Get ready, it's wild in here.


Thank you Dave White for research assistance.

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

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In the conclusion of the horrific crimes of William Burke and William Hare, we see them get somehow even more brutal. As time went on and they kept profiting off their violent tendencies, they began to get reckless and put their entire scheme and freedom at risk. In the end, only partial justice was served. Get ready, it's wild in here.


Thank you Dave White for research assistance.

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

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Burke & Hare Part 1

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Throughout the first three decades of the nineteenth century, doctors and medical schools across Europe struggled to find adequate supplies of bodies that could be used for the purposes of teaching in a medical theater. The outsized demand for fresh cadavers led to the rise of “resurrection men", AKA Graverobbers. Disgusting duo William Burke and William Hare found what they believed to be a wildly easy way to provide doctors with a steady stream of recently deceased bodies. In the end, they brutally killed at least sixteen people. The crimes left an chilling mark on Edinburgh specifically, and all of Scotland in the end.


Thank you to Dave White for research assistance.

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

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Throughout the first three decades of the nineteenth century, doctors and medical schools across Europe struggled to find adequate supplies of bodies that could be used for the purposes of teaching in a medical theater. The outsized demand for fresh cadavers led to the rise of “resurrection men", AKA Graverobbers. Disgusting duo William Burke and William Hare found what they believed to be a wildly easy way to provide doctors with a steady stream of recently deceased bodies. In the end, they brutally killed at least sixteen people. The crimes left an chilling mark on Edinburgh specifically, and all of Scotland in the end.


Thank you to Dave White for research assistance.

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

Listener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025)


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Sweet dreams are made of this.... episode! Or maybe not because some of y'alls dreams are wildin'. But who am I to disagree? ANYWAY! We got a folder full of all your craziest dream stories and alternate universe experiences and we're devouring them this episode. There are roads that exist and then don't, prophetic dreams, and a shared dream experience. The grand finale will blow your mind with an entire village/life/murder conviction. If you have a tale that you'd like to share please send it on in to Morbidpodcast@gmail.com with "Listener Tale" somewhere in the subject line :)

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Sweet dreams are made of this.... episode! Or maybe not because some of y'alls dreams are wildin'. But who am I to disagree? ANYWAY! We got a folder full of all your craziest dream stories and alternate universe experiences and we're devouring them this episode. There are roads that exist and then don't, prophetic dreams, and a shared dream experience. The grand finale will blow your mind with an entire village/life/murder conviction. If you have a tale that you'd like to share please send it on in to Morbidpodcast@gmail.com with "Listener Tale" somewhere in the subject line :)

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

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Published 2023-03-27

The Murder of Kelly Ann Tinyes

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Kelly Ann Tinyes was at home babysitting her eight-year-old brother, Richie, on the afternoon of March 3, 1989 when the phone rang. Richie answered, talking briefly to the man on the other end of the line, before handing the phone to his sister, telling her it was someone named “John.” After a short conversation with “John,” Kelly hung up the phone and left the house around 3:15 pm, telling her brother she was going to her friend’s house down the street and would be right back. It was the last time Kelly’s family would see her alive.


Thank you to the prodigious David White for research assistance :)

References

Associated Press. 1990. "Sex motive charged in girl's slaying." The Journal News, February 16: 18.

Bessent, Alvin. 1989. "Defense lawyer thrown off LI murder case." Newsday, October 3: 47.

Danney, Micah. 2015. "Tinyes girl's killer denied parole." Long Island Herald, November 18.

Lyall, Sarah. 1990. "Blood tests link Golub to crime scene." New York Times, March 1: B2.

—. 1990. "Golub Case: Main Puzzle Is the Suspect." New York Times, March 5: B1.

—. 1990. "Marks on body not from bites, dentist testifies." New York Times, March 23: B4.

Milton, Pat. 1989. "Teen's murder transforms quiet L.I. neighborhood." The Journal News, March 26: 77.

Mulugeta, Samson. 1997. "Drug case brings echo of murder." Newsday, March 23: 29.

New York Times. 1978. "Not guilty verdict finds killer insane." New York Times, April 27: D21.

Nieves, Evelyn. 1998. "What Happened on Horton Road." New York Times, May 31.

Pearlman, Shirley, and Elizabeth Wasserman. 1989. "Tempers flare as murder hearing begins." Newsday, August 15: 61.

Pearlman, Shirley, and Phil Mintz. 1989. "What cops say Golub told them." Newsday, August 15: 3.

People v. Robert Golub. 1993. 196 A.D.2d 637 (Nassau County Appeals Court, August 23).

Watkins, Ronald J. 2000. Against Her Will: The Senseless Murder of Kelly Ann Tinyes. Syracuse, NY: Pinnacle Books.

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Kelly Ann Tinyes was at home babysitting her eight-year-old brother, Richie, on the afternoon of March 3, 1989 when the phone rang. Richie answered, talking briefly to the man on the other end of the line, before handing the phone to his sister, telling her it was someone named “John.” After a short conversation with “John,” Kelly hung up the phone and left the house around 3:15 pm, telling her brother she was going to her friend’s house down the street and would be right back. It was the last time Kelly’s family would see her alive.


Thank you to the prodigious David White for research assistance :)

References

Associated Press. 1990. "Sex motive charged in girl's slaying." The Journal News, February 16: 18.

Bessent, Alvin. 1989. "Defense lawyer thrown off LI murder case." Newsday, October 3: 47.

Danney, Micah. 2015. "Tinyes girl's killer denied parole." Long Island Herald, November 18.

Lyall, Sarah. 1990. "Blood tests link Golub to crime scene." New York Times, March 1: B2.

—. 1990. "Golub Case: Main Puzzle Is the Suspect." New York Times, March 5: B1.

—. 1990. "Marks on body not from bites, dentist testifies." New York Times, March 23: B4.

Milton, Pat. 1989. "Teen's murder transforms quiet L.I. neighborhood." The Journal News, March 26: 77.

Mulugeta, Samson. 1997. "Drug case brings echo of murder." Newsday, March 23: 29.

New York Times. 1978. "Not guilty verdict finds killer insane." New York Times, April 27: D21.

Nieves, Evelyn. 1998. "What Happened on Horton Road." New York Times, May 31.

Pearlman, Shirley, and Elizabeth Wasserman. 1989. "Tempers flare as murder hearing begins." Newsday, August 15: 61.

Pearlman, Shirley, and Phil Mintz. 1989. "What cops say Golub told them." Newsday, August 15: 3.

People v. Robert Golub. 1993. 196 A.D.2d 637 (Nassau County Appeals Court, August 23).

Watkins, Ronald J. 2000. Against Her Will: The Senseless Murder of Kelly Ann Tinyes. Syracuse, NY: Pinnacle Books.

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Rebecca Aylward

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On the afternoon of October 22, 2010, fifteen-year-old Rebecca Aylward left her house in Maesteg, Wales. She had plans to meet her ex- boyfriend in a wooded area just outside of Aberkenfig, under the guise that they were reconciling. She told her mother, “Bye Mam, I love you,” as she grabbed her purse and walked out the door—it was the last time her mother would see Becca alive.


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On the afternoon of October 22, 2010, fifteen-year-old Rebecca Aylward left her house in Maesteg, Wales. She had plans to meet her ex- boyfriend in a wooded area just outside of Aberkenfig, under the guise that they were reconciling. She told her mother, “Bye Mam, I love you,” as she grabbed her purse and walked out the door—it was the last time her mother would see Becca alive.


Thank you to the ravishing David White for research assistance :)

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Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

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Holy shit guys, we had a CELEB in the house today! Well not like in the house, but on the zoom. THE ONE, THE ONLY..... JVN *sound the alarm* We talk all things Bravo, True Crime and Olympics related. We also tell JVN a gnarly story out of Quincy MA since he's from Quincy IL. It was a grand time, so please enjoy!


Go check out Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness anywhere you listen to podcasts and on Netflix!


Thank you so much to David White for research excellence


References

Cowperthwaite, Wheeler. 2022. "Quincy inheritance murder case on new Investigation Discovery show." Patriot Ledger, May 18.

Difazio, Joe. 2021. "Man who plotted to kill his Quincy great-aunt for inheritance has been granted parole." Patriot Ledger, December 31.

Ellement, John R. 2002. "DA: Woman, 84, Fought Killer." Boston Globe, October 29.

—. 2006. "Former Norton Man Admits Role in Slaying of Aunt." Boston Globe, June 10.

—. 2006. "Jury Hears Details of Bludgeoning ." Boston Globe, March 4.

—. 2006. "Man Gets Life Sentence in Killing." Boston Globe, March 17.

—. 2006. "Witness Tells of Grisly Murder." Boston Globe, March 10.

Leiner, Gabriel. 2006. "First trial set in Quincy murder." Patriot Ledger, February 16.

Linton, David. 2022. "Ex-Norton man granted parole for role in 2001 murder of his elderly great-aunt." Sun Chronicle, January 3.

Quimby, Beth. 2002. "Friendship and Betrayal: Moments of terror for informant who says best friend' recounted Quincy murder." Patriot Ledger, November 2.

Sack, Jessica Van. 2002. "Police Call Fatal 'Fall' a Killing; Kin Hed." Boston Globe, October 27.

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Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

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Holy shit guys, we had a CELEB in the house today! Well not like in the house, but on the zoom. THE ONE, THE ONLY..... JVN *sound the alarm* We talk all things Bravo, True Crime and Olympics related. We also tell JVN a gnarly story out of Quincy MA since he's from Quincy IL. It was a grand time, so please enjoy!


Go check out Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness anywhere you listen to podcasts and on Netflix!


Thank you so much to David White for research excellence


References

Cowperthwaite, Wheeler. 2022. "Quincy inheritance murder case on new Investigation Discovery show." Patriot Ledger, May 18.

Difazio, Joe. 2021. "Man who plotted to kill his Quincy great-aunt for inheritance has been granted parole." Patriot Ledger, December 31.

Ellement, John R. 2002. "DA: Woman, 84, Fought Killer." Boston Globe, October 29.

—. 2006. "Former Norton Man Admits Role in Slaying of Aunt." Boston Globe, June 10.

—. 2006. "Jury Hears Details of Bludgeoning ." Boston Globe, March 4.

—. 2006. "Man Gets Life Sentence in Killing." Boston Globe, March 17.

—. 2006. "Witness Tells of Grisly Murder." Boston Globe, March 10.

Leiner, Gabriel. 2006. "First trial set in Quincy murder." Patriot Ledger, February 16.

Linton, David. 2022. "Ex-Norton man granted parole for role in 2001 murder of his elderly great-aunt." Sun Chronicle, January 3.

Quimby, Beth. 2002. "Friendship and Betrayal: Moments of terror for informant who says best friend' recounted Quincy murder." Patriot Ledger, November 2.

Sack, Jessica Van. 2002. "Police Call Fatal 'Fall' a Killing; Kin Hed." Boston Globe, October 27.

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Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

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Published 2023-03-16

The Burger Chef Murders Part 2

60 min
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Burger Chef part two is here y'all and it comes with a bittersweet....or really just bitter conclusion. When we last left you, the police had done LITERALLY zero work to secure the crime scene or really investigate at all. But someone would come forward with new information. This person shared details with the police that only one of the killers would know, and yet this case remains unsolved.

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

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Burger Chef part two is here y'all and it comes with a bittersweet....or really just bitter conclusion. When we last left you, the police had done LITERALLY zero work to secure the crime scene or really investigate at all. But someone would come forward with new information. This person shared details with the police that only one of the killers would know, and yet this case remains unsolved.

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

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Published 2023-03-13

The Burger Chef Murders Part 1

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The Burger Chef murders case out of Indiana is one of the most notorious cases in true crime history. Jayne Fried, Ruth Shelton, Daniel Davis and Mark Flemmonds were all on shift the night of November 17th 1978 when something terrible happened. To this day no one exactly knows what happened that night. Was it a robbery gone wrong?


Research Assistance by Dave White.

References:

Bird, Paul, and Skip Hess. 1979. "Police under gag order in Burger Chef slayings." Indianapolis News , March 7: 1.

Corbin, Bryan. 2003. "Victim's parents say they can forgive." Daily Journal, June 28: 1.

Ellis, Mike. 1978. "Shootings frighten rural residents." Indianapolis News, November 20: 12.

Frederick, Diane. 1978. "Lights to 'happy face' turned off." Indiana News, November 21: 20.

Hess, Skip, and Rich Schneider. 1978. "4 shootings shock Speedway residents." Indianapolis News, November 20: 1, 12.

Indianapolis Star. 1978. "Press Group Assails Police Silence." Indianapolis Star, November 21: 6A.

—. 1978. "Stymied police probing murders of 4 at Burger Chef ask 'why?'." Indianapolis Star, December 10: 14.

—. 1978. "'They could have been anyone's children'." Indianapolis Star, November 21: 8.

Journal and Courier. 1978. "Police without leads in restaurant killings." Journal and Courier, November 26: B-2.

Judkins, Jane. 1978. "Young Speedway Murder Victims." Indianapolis News, November 20.

Luzadder, Dan. 1986. "Police have confession in Burger Chef murders." Indianapolis Star, November 14: 1.

Morrison, Patrick. 1978. "$10,000 reward offered in westside abduction of 4." Indianapolis Star, November 20: 1.

Morrison, Patrick, and James G. Newland. 1978. "Kidnap victims believed slain by more than one." Indianapolis Star, November 21: 1.

Morrison, Patrick, and James Newland. 1978. "4 Speedway kidnap victims found dead in wooded area." Indianapolis Star, November 20: 1.

Murphy, Shelly. 1979. "2 held in Milwaukee slayings." Boston Globe, April 27: 26.

Trusnik, Mac, and John Flora. 1978. "$25,000 reward offered in four kidnap-slayings." Indianapolis News, November 20: 3.

Trusnik, Mac, and Paul Bird. 1978. "4 held 24 hours before slayings." Indianapolis News, November 21: 1.

Walton, Richard. 1979. "Burger Chef murder suspects held." Indianapolis Star, April 28: 1.

—. 1978. "Police baffled by kidnapping." Indianapolis Star, November 19: 1.

Young, Julie. 2021. The Burger Chef Murders in Indiana. Charleston, SC: Arcadia Publishing.

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

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The Burger Chef murders case out of Indiana is one of the most notorious cases in true crime history. Jayne Fried, Ruth Shelton, Daniel Davis and Mark Flemmonds were all on shift the night of November 17th 1978 when something terrible happened. To this day no one exactly knows what happened that night. Was it a robbery gone wrong?


Research Assistance by Dave White.

References:

Bird, Paul, and Skip Hess. 1979. "Police under gag order in Burger Chef slayings." Indianapolis News , March 7: 1.

Corbin, Bryan. 2003. "Victim's parents say they can forgive." Daily Journal, June 28: 1.

Ellis, Mike. 1978. "Shootings frighten rural residents." Indianapolis News, November 20: 12.

Frederick, Diane. 1978. "Lights to 'happy face' turned off." Indiana News, November 21: 20.

Hess, Skip, and Rich Schneider. 1978. "4 shootings shock Speedway residents." Indianapolis News, November 20: 1, 12.

Indianapolis Star. 1978. "Press Group Assails Police Silence." Indianapolis Star, November 21: 6A.

—. 1978. "Stymied police probing murders of 4 at Burger Chef ask 'why?'." Indianapolis Star, December 10: 14.

—. 1978. "'They could have been anyone's children'." Indianapolis Star, November 21: 8.

Journal and Courier. 1978. "Police without leads in restaurant killings." Journal and Courier, November 26: B-2.

Judkins, Jane. 1978. "Young Speedway Murder Victims." Indianapolis News, November 20.

Luzadder, Dan. 1986. "Police have confession in Burger Chef murders." Indianapolis Star, November 14: 1.

Morrison, Patrick. 1978. "$10,000 reward offered in westside abduction of 4." Indianapolis Star, November 20: 1.

Morrison, Patrick, and James G. Newland. 1978. "Kidnap victims believed slain by more than one." Indianapolis Star, November 21: 1.

Morrison, Patrick, and James Newland. 1978. "4 Speedway kidnap victims found dead in wooded area." Indianapolis Star, November 20: 1.

Murphy, Shelly. 1979. "2 held in Milwaukee slayings." Boston Globe, April 27: 26.

Trusnik, Mac, and John Flora. 1978. "$25,000 reward offered in four kidnap-slayings." Indianapolis News, November 20: 3.

Trusnik, Mac, and Paul Bird. 1978. "4 held 24 hours before slayings." Indianapolis News, November 21: 1.

Walton, Richard. 1979. "Burger Chef murder suspects held." Indianapolis Star, April 28: 1.

—. 1978. "Police baffled by kidnapping." Indianapolis Star, November 19: 1.

Young, Julie. 2021. The Burger Chef Murders in Indiana. Charleston, SC: Arcadia Publishing.

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

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Listener Tales 71

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Listener Tales 71 is here and we think this is a pretty dope one! Make sure to keep your ear out for the special announcement at the top of the show, and then we dive into all things creepy, weird and macabre. On today's installment we feature stories about doppelgangers, a group of listeners who could have been featured on an episode of Dateline and the creepiest chloroform stealing lab partner. If you have a listener tale that you would like to send in please do so and direct it to Morbidpodcast@gmail.com with "Listener Tale" somewhere in the subject line :)

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

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Listener Tales 71 is here and we think this is a pretty dope one! Make sure to keep your ear out for the special announcement at the top of the show, and then we dive into all things creepy, weird and macabre. On today's installment we feature stories about doppelgangers, a group of listeners who could have been featured on an episode of Dateline and the creepiest chloroform stealing lab partner. If you have a listener tale that you would like to send in please do so and direct it to Morbidpodcast@gmail.com with "Listener Tale" somewhere in the subject line :)

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

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Kiss and Kill Murder

87 min
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When Betty Williams’ boyfriend, Mack Herring, broke up with her during their senior year of high school, her entire world felt like it was collapsing in on her. She had been struggling with depression and anxiety for some time, all of which seemed compounded by the problems of a society and culture that in 1961 seemed steadfastly unwilling to accept her for who she was. For Betty, death seemed the only way to free herself from the losing battle she had been fighting; however, despite her commitment to ending her life, Betty simply didn’t have what she described as “the fortitude necessary” to go through with it. Instead, she begged one last thing of the young man who had just broken her heart—she wanted him to pull the trigger for her.

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

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When Betty Williams’ boyfriend, Mack Herring, broke up with her during their senior year of high school, her entire world felt like it was collapsing in on her. She had been struggling with depression and anxiety for some time, all of which seemed compounded by the problems of a society and culture that in 1961 seemed steadfastly unwilling to accept her for who she was. For Betty, death seemed the only way to free herself from the losing battle she had been fighting; however, despite her commitment to ending her life, Betty simply didn’t have what she described as “the fortitude necessary” to go through with it. Instead, she begged one last thing of the young man who had just broken her heart—she wanted him to pull the trigger for her.

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

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The Tragic Murder of Roseann Quinn

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Roseann Quinn was a young, single school teacher working at St. Joseph’s School for the Deaf and pursuing a graduate degree that would help her advance her career. She was independent and had a bright future. Then on January 2, 1973, she was brutally murdered in her New York apartment by a man she met at a neighborhood bar. Her death would become a talking point for those against the Woman’s Liberation Movement—citing her "high risk" lifestyle as the catalyst for her own demise. Of course we know that the only one to blame here is the vicious killer himself, and Roseann Quinn was merely a symbol for his rage.


Associated Press. 1973. "Murdered teacher was dedicated to her work with deaf children." Reporter Dispatch, January 5: 2.

Churcher, Sharon. 1999. "Could Sex and the City lead to murder?" Mail on Sunday, February 14.

Ebert, Roger. 1977. Looking for Mr. Goodbar. January 1. Accessed February 8, 2023. https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/looking-for-mr-goodbar-1977.

Fosburgh, Lacey. 1977. Closing Time: The True Story of the "Looking for Mr. Goodbar" Murder. New York, NY: Dellacorte Press.

—. 1973. "A man seen with teacher on slaying night is sought." New York Times, January 6: 16.

—. 1973. "Suspect seized in Indiana in teacher's slaying here." New York Times, January 10: 1.

Gelb, Arthur. 2003. City Room. New York, NY: Putnam.

Kaufman, Michael. 1973. "Teacher, 28, slain in her apartment on West 72d Street." New York Times, January 5: 1.

Knight, Michael. 1973. "Suspect in killing of a teacher on West Side hangs himself." New York Times, May 6.

McFadden, Robert. 1973. "Police issue a sketch of witness they hope will identify killer of teacher." New York Times, January 7: 39.

New York Times. 1973. "Insanity defense planned in killing of teacher here." New York Times, February 2: 14.

Weisman, Steven R. 1973. "Corrections board assails city aides on Tombs suicide." New York Times, July 22: 33.


Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

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Roseann Quinn was a young, single school teacher working at St. Joseph’s School for the Deaf and pursuing a graduate degree that would help her advance her career. She was independent and had a bright future. Then on January 2, 1973, she was brutally murdered in her New York apartment by a man she met at a neighborhood bar. Her death would become a talking point for those against the Woman’s Liberation Movement—citing her "high risk" lifestyle as the catalyst for her own demise. Of course we know that the only one to blame here is the vicious killer himself, and Roseann Quinn was merely a symbol for his rage.


Associated Press. 1973. "Murdered teacher was dedicated to her work with deaf children." Reporter Dispatch, January 5: 2.

Churcher, Sharon. 1999. "Could Sex and the City lead to murder?" Mail on Sunday, February 14.

Ebert, Roger. 1977. Looking for Mr. Goodbar. January 1. Accessed February 8, 2023. https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/looking-for-mr-goodbar-1977.

Fosburgh, Lacey. 1977. Closing Time: The True Story of the "Looking for Mr. Goodbar" Murder. New York, NY: Dellacorte Press.

—. 1973. "A man seen with teacher on slaying night is sought." New York Times, January 6: 16.

—. 1973. "Suspect seized in Indiana in teacher's slaying here." New York Times, January 10: 1.

Gelb, Arthur. 2003. City Room. New York, NY: Putnam.

Kaufman, Michael. 1973. "Teacher, 28, slain in her apartment on West 72d Street." New York Times, January 5: 1.

Knight, Michael. 1973. "Suspect in killing of a teacher on West Side hangs himself." New York Times, May 6.

McFadden, Robert. 1973. "Police issue a sketch of witness they hope will identify killer of teacher." New York Times, January 7: 39.

New York Times. 1973. "Insanity defense planned in killing of teacher here." New York Times, February 2: 14.

Weisman, Steven R. 1973. "Corrections board assails city aides on Tombs suicide." New York Times, July 22: 33.


Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

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Published 2023-03-03

Listener Tales 70

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Listener Tales 70!!!! We've got a miraculous basset hound named Bonnie, randomly occurring blood splatter, a haunted theatre and SO much more! If you have a listener tale feel free to send it to Morbidpodcast@gmail.com with "Listener Tale" somewhere in the subject line

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

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Listener Tales 70!!!! We've got a miraculous basset hound named Bonnie, randomly occurring blood splatter, a haunted theatre and SO much more! If you have a listener tale feel free to send it to Morbidpodcast@gmail.com with "Listener Tale" somewhere in the subject line

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

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Part two of Harvey Glatman is here and it is wild! When we last left you Harvey had just murdered Ruth Mercado and was ready and absolutely set on the idea of abducting his next victim. He hit up a modeling agency to find his next victim, but little did he know, he got much more than he bargained for. The next woman Harvey abducted and attempted to murder would be the one to end his entire reign of terror.

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Part two of Harvey Glatman is here and it is wild! When we last left you Harvey had just murdered Ruth Mercado and was ready and absolutely set on the idea of abducting his next victim. He hit up a modeling agency to find his next victim, but little did he know, he got much more than he bargained for. The next woman Harvey abducted and attempted to murder would be the one to end his entire reign of terror.

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

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From the summer of 1957 to the summer of ’58, the City of Los Angeles was terrorized by a truly heinous beast who was murdering women and dumping their bodies in the LA desert. The killer, thirty-year-old Harvey Glatman known as The Glamour Girl Slayer had a dark past and a seriously terrifying modus operandi. If allowed to, he would have likely continued his reign of horror forever. Luckily, one woman put an end to it.


REFERENCES:

Newton, Michael. 1998. Rope: The Twister Life and Crimes of Harvey Glatman. New York, New York: Pocket Books.

People v. Glatman. 1959. 52 Cal. 2d 283 (Supreme Court of California, June 5).


Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

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From the summer of 1957 to the summer of ’58, the City of Los Angeles was terrorized by a truly heinous beast who was murdering women and dumping their bodies in the LA desert. The killer, thirty-year-old Harvey Glatman known as The Glamour Girl Slayer had a dark past and a seriously terrifying modus operandi. If allowed to, he would have likely continued his reign of horror forever. Luckily, one woman put an end to it.


REFERENCES:

Newton, Michael. 1998. Rope: The Twister Life and Crimes of Harvey Glatman. New York, New York: Pocket Books.

People v. Glatman. 1959. 52 Cal. 2d 283 (Supreme Court of California, June 5).


Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

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Published 2023-02-24

Listener Tales 69

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It's a totally unhinged episode of listener tales today! Alaina got to hang out with two of her favorite humans on this planet, Sheena Melwani and TRID.Today we talk about afterlife hair care, disney (again) and some seriously terrifying hospitals. Join us for a fun and spooky palette cleanser before we destroy you with some truly horrifying cases in the coming weeks!

For our listener Gemma who wrote one of these fascinating and beautiful tales, please consider donating to help fund research and a future cure for Cystic Fibrosis.

The Cystic Fibrosis Foundation: https://www.cff.org/donate

Cystic Fibrosis Australia: https://www.cysticfibrosis.org.au/donate

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

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It's a totally unhinged episode of listener tales today! Alaina got to hang out with two of her favorite humans on this planet, Sheena Melwani and TRID.Today we talk about afterlife hair care, disney (again) and some seriously terrifying hospitals. Join us for a fun and spooky palette cleanser before we destroy you with some truly horrifying cases in the coming weeks!

For our listener Gemma who wrote one of these fascinating and beautiful tales, please consider donating to help fund research and a future cure for Cystic Fibrosis.

The Cystic Fibrosis Foundation: https://www.cff.org/donate

Cystic Fibrosis Australia: https://www.cysticfibrosis.org.au/donate

Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

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Published 2023-02-22

Candy Mossler

96 min
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Candy Mossler was a wild woman. She'd always dreamed of a bold and glamorous life outside of the small town she came from. Little did she know she would spend a good portion of her adult life and afterlife in that spotlight- just for all the wrong reasons. After Candy discovered her husband murdered in their vacation home she and her nephew Melvin would find themselves on trial for his murder, and worse, their relationship as nephew and aunt would be revealed as much much more.


REFERENCES:

Associated Press. 1957. "New life open for youngsters after tragedy." Odessa American, February 5: 12.

—. 1964. "Mossler slaying probe goes deeper." Tampa Bay Times, July 10: 20.

Boston Globe. 1966. "State claims Candy is 'most guilty' in Mossler slaying." Boston Globe, March 2: 44.

Davis, Miller. 1964. "Millionaire banker slain on Key Biscayne." Miami News, June 30: 1.

Hollandsworth, Skip. 2021. "The Notorious Mrs. Mossler." Texas Monthly, December.

Jones, Victor O. 1966. "Is nation bored with Candy Mossler murder trial?" Boston Globe, February 18.

Miller, Gene. 1966. "Mossler witness tells of intimacy." Miami Herald, February 10: 1.

New York Times. 1964. "Banker in Miami stabbed to death." New York Times, July 1: 70.

Smith, Ron. 2021. No One is Perfect: The True Story Of Candace Mossler And America's Strangest Murder Trial. Houston, TX: Independent.

United Press International. 1976. "Candace Mossler Garrison dies, was tried in murder of husband." New York Times, October 27: 42.

—. 1964. "Letters tie widow, Powers." Orlando Evening Star, July 8: 38.

—. 1964. "Police hunt clues in banker's death." Orlando Evening Star, July 1: 3.



Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

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Candy Mossler was a wild woman. She'd always dreamed of a bold and glamorous life outside of the small town she came from. Little did she know she would spend a good portion of her adult life and afterlife in that spotlight- just for all the wrong reasons. After Candy discovered her husband murdered in their vacation home she and her nephew Melvin would find themselves on trial for his murder, and worse, their relationship as nephew and aunt would be revealed as much much more.


REFERENCES:

Associated Press. 1957. "New life open for youngsters after tragedy." Odessa American, February 5: 12.

—. 1964. "Mossler slaying probe goes deeper." Tampa Bay Times, July 10: 20.

Boston Globe. 1966. "State claims Candy is 'most guilty' in Mossler slaying." Boston Globe, March 2: 44.

Davis, Miller. 1964. "Millionaire banker slain on Key Biscayne." Miami News, June 30: 1.

Hollandsworth, Skip. 2021. "The Notorious Mrs. Mossler." Texas Monthly, December.

Jones, Victor O. 1966. "Is nation bored with Candy Mossler murder trial?" Boston Globe, February 18.

Miller, Gene. 1966. "Mossler witness tells of intimacy." Miami Herald, February 10: 1.

New York Times. 1964. "Banker in Miami stabbed to death." New York Times, July 1: 70.

Smith, Ron. 2021. No One is Perfect: The True Story Of Candace Mossler And America's Strangest Murder Trial. Houston, TX: Independent.

United Press International. 1976. "Candace Mossler Garrison dies, was tried in murder of husband." New York Times, October 27: 42.

—. 1964. "Letters tie widow, Powers." Orlando Evening Star, July 8: 38.

—. 1964. "Police hunt clues in banker's death." Orlando Evening Star, July 1: 3.



Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

Listener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025)


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Published 2023-02-20

Glasgow Ice Cream Wars

91 min
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I SCREAM, YOU SCREAM, WE ALL SCREAM… over this true crime case known as the Glasgow Ice Cream Wars. We aren’t all watching the latest Food Network bake-off, unfortunately, this case has everything from assault to arson. It all happened back in early 80’s Glasgow. The streets were running rampant with Ice Cream Van drivers trying to overtake each other and steal the best route which ultimately led to the murder of almost an entire family.

References

Faux, Ronald. 1984. "Murder hunt after three die in house fire." The Times, April 17: 2.


Harris, Gillian. 1998. "Ice-cream killers back in jail after year of freedom." The Times, February 11: 3.


Mangan, Lucy. 2022. The Ice Cream Wars review – the gang crime that rocked Glasgow. November 23. Accessed January 17, 2023. https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/nov/23/the-ice-cream-wars-review-andrew-doyle-killers-1984-arson-attack-glasgow.


Newsroom, The. 2004. "Who did kill the Doyles?" The Scotsman, March 21.


Press Association. 2004. Glasgow 'ice cream war' conviction overruled. March 17. Accessed Janaury 17, 2023. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/mar/17/ukcrime.


Skelton, Douglas, and Lisa Brownlie. 1992. Frightener: The Glasgow Ice Cream Wars. Edinburgh: Mainstream .


The Times. 1984. "Former adict tells trial of 'big gun'." The Times, September 5: 3.


—. 1984. "Ice Cream trial jury told of gun attack." The Times, September 7: 3.


—. 1984. "Life for ice cream killers." The Times, October 11: 3.


—. 1984. "Men 'attacked van with axe handles'." The Times, September 06: 3.


—. 1984. "Multiple murder trial told of ice cream van attacks and injury to drivers." The Times, September 4: 3.


—. 1981. "Three jailed for part in ice cream war." The Times, December 23: 3.


Special thank you to David White for research assistance!





Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

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I SCREAM, YOU SCREAM, WE ALL SCREAM… over this true crime case known as the Glasgow Ice Cream Wars. We aren’t all watching the latest Food Network bake-off, unfortunately, this case has everything from assault to arson. It all happened back in early 80’s Glasgow. The streets were running rampant with Ice Cream Van drivers trying to overtake each other and steal the best route which ultimately led to the murder of almost an entire family.

References

Faux, Ronald. 1984. "Murder hunt after three die in house fire." The Times, April 17: 2.


Harris, Gillian. 1998. "Ice-cream killers back in jail after year of freedom." The Times, February 11: 3.


Mangan, Lucy. 2022. The Ice Cream Wars review – the gang crime that rocked Glasgow. November 23. Accessed January 17, 2023. https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/nov/23/the-ice-cream-wars-review-andrew-doyle-killers-1984-arson-attack-glasgow.


Newsroom, The. 2004. "Who did kill the Doyles?" The Scotsman, March 21.


Press Association. 2004. Glasgow 'ice cream war' conviction overruled. March 17. Accessed Janaury 17, 2023. https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2004/mar/17/ukcrime.


Skelton, Douglas, and Lisa Brownlie. 1992. Frightener: The Glasgow Ice Cream Wars. Edinburgh: Mainstream .


The Times. 1984. "Former adict tells trial of 'big gun'." The Times, September 5: 3.


—. 1984. "Ice Cream trial jury told of gun attack." The Times, September 7: 3.


—. 1984. "Life for ice cream killers." The Times, October 11: 3.


—. 1984. "Men 'attacked van with axe handles'." The Times, September 06: 3.


—. 1984. "Multiple murder trial told of ice cream van attacks and injury to drivers." The Times, September 4: 3.


—. 1981. "Three jailed for part in ice cream war." The Times, December 23: 3.


Special thank you to David White for research assistance!





Cowritten by Alaina Urquhart, Ash Kelley & Dave White (Since 10/2022)

Produced & Edited by Mikie Sirois (Since 2023)

Research by Dave White (Since 10/2022), Alaina Urquhart & Ash Kelley

Listener Correspondence & Collaboration by Debra Lally

Listener Tale Video Edited by Aidan McElman (Since 6/2025)


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