Rock N Roll Story Guys

The guys dive into one of the stories that first inspired the whole idea for the show – the cutthroat business practices of Mr. Stephan Jenkins, the founder and singer of a band called Third Eye Blind.

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Suzaie by Splash: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0TtjwrrRfY

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephan_Jenkins

https://laughingsquid.com/mtv-basement-tapes-frank-zappa

https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/Blind-Ambition-Third-Eye-Blind-leader-Stephan-2893749.php

https://riffmagazine.com/features/third-eye-blind-trademark/#google_vignette

https://floodmagazine.com/39035/how-its-going-to-be-why-two-former-members-of-third-eye-blind-cant-call-themselves-former-members-of-third-eye-blind/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-Charmed_Life

https://www.bmi.com/news/entry/Real-World_Success_Story_Stephan_Jenkins_and_Third_Eye_Blind

https://www.ebar.com/story.php?ch=bartab&sc=live_music&id=289014

https://trialinsider.com/2013/10/16/third-eye-blind-rat-in-the-books/

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/third-eye-blind-frontman-and-drummer-save-children-from-drowning-a7077811.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Cadogan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Satriani

https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/ex-third-eye-blind-guitarists-suit-heads-to-trial-75440/

https://www.billboard.com/music/rock/third-eye-blind-self-titled-debut-album-oral-history-7751391/

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/guitarist-sues-his-former-band-members-third-2699021.php

Blue discussion between Stephan and Jason Carmer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdjiP6-s5Uw

https://jivewrites.wordpress.com/2020/11/12/third-eye-blinds-blue-is-the-most-interesting-sophomore-album-of-the-last-25-years/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/

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A listener reaches out with a question about Hard Rock Cafe and the guys take it as an invitation to HUNGRILY investigate the history of rock n rollers owning eateries.

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https://www.yelp.com/biz/flavs-fried-chicken-clinton

https://y105music.com/flavs-fried-chicken-clinton-iowa-story/

https://www.mashed.com/305303/the-real-reason-britney-spears-restaurant-nyla-flopped/

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/how-george-harrison-eric-clapton-27351422

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_Rock_Cafe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Tigrett

https://www.jacksoncarnegie.com/stories/isaac-tigrett

https://conahanexperience.com/the-hard-rock-cafe-vault-london/

https://www.mashed.com/244933/the-untold-truth-of-hard-rock-cafe/

https://www.visittheusa.com/experience/rock-out-and-fill-restaurants-rock-n-roll-soul

https://www.rockandbrews.com/our-history

https://iowastartingline.com/2022/06/09/iowa-weird-flavor-flavs-failed-fried-chicken-restaurant/

https://www.mamaciminosvegas.com/about

https://www.clintonherald.com/news/lifestyles/mama-cimino-s-closes-doors/article_c908184c-af05-5200-b0f9-323033cf6950.html

https://myq1075.com/ixp/679/p/flavs-fried-chicken-clinton-iowa-story/#:~:text=Flav's%20Fried%20Chicken%20was%20a,first%20establishment%20in%20Clinton%2C%20IA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Y._Brown_Jr.

https://passiontainment.com/the-restaurant-ownership-is-the-top-new-celebrity-accessory/

https://www.businessinsider.com/review-jon-bon-jovi-jbj-soul-kitchen-restaurant-dining-experience-2022-4

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The guys give it their best shot when a teenage fan of the show writes to ask them to explain why that lady from Stranger Things has had so many songs written about her.

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https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/finn-wolfhard-winona-ryder-texts-rock-stars-she-dated-1235211313/

https://www.reddit.com/r/OldSchoolCool/comments/h7nhhb/winona_ryder_and_adam_horovitz_aka_the_king/

https://www.popsugar.com/celebrity/who-has-winona-ryder-dated-44108926

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/matthew-sweet-and-kristy-swanson-sweet-surrender-190851/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNWR3OenaPk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSt3v_tvVQA

Soul Asylum – Just Like Anyone (Official Video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4gxSnP7RKc

https://www.hotpress.com/music/beck-laws-416297

https://everything2.com/title/Winona%2527s+Exes+-+A+Rock+Supergroup

https://themercury.com/winona-ryder-opens-up-on-her-secret-life-in-minnesota/article_dc5b7775-9162-5137-80eb-b15c3d4ff17f.html

https://www.spin.com/2021/10/matthew-sweet-girlfriend-30th-anniversary/

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/johnny-depp-v-amber-heard-how-heard-felt-about-depps-winona-ryder-tattoo/MIHXJFFMFYHNWP3XLEGTX4P354/

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2016/jun/18/winona-ryder-comeback-stranger-things-netflix

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Leary

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_for_the_Road

https://littlevoiceuk.com/blog/songs-about-winona-ryder/

https://themeggiesue.substack.com/p/tms-muse-of-the-week-winona-ryder

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_Rides

https://winonaryder.proboards.com/thread/35/ryan-adams-on-dating-winona

https://twitter.com/BobMehr/status/1734354080141816253

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Brian and Murdock break down the three theories that have haunted many since the death of Sam Cooke back in December of 1964. Was it really just bad behavior gone worse? Or was Sam set up?

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Dream Boogie Peter Guralnick book: https://www.amazon.com/Dream-Boogie-Triumph-Sam-Cooke/dp/0316013293

UPI Report: https://www.newspapers.com/image/393958105/?fcfToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJmcmVlLXZpZXctaWQiOjM5Mzk1ODEwNSwiaWF0IjoxNzEzODI4MjUzLCJleHAiOjE3MTM5MTQ2NTN9.WCnGsjb-fSQIY1jd-HtoRPqa8G1HOTKn2Bl3b_Dld8w

https://people.com/movies/why-mystery-still-shrouds-singer-sam-cookes-shooting-death-nearly-60-years-later/

https://blogs.loc.gov/now-see-hear/2021/02/on-the-recording-registry-a-change-is-gonna-come-1964/

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/conspiracy-theory-death-of-sam-cooke/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Schmitt

https://nilssonschmilsson.com/martonis-210629103925.html

https://www.facebook.com/VintageLosAngeles/photos/a.578880922168631/2653685958021440/?type=3

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/mar/02/remastered-sam-cooke-murder

Remastered: The Two Killings of Sam Cooke Netflix doc: https://www.netflix.com/title/80191045

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Klein

FBI watching Ali info: https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN14511P/

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/true-history-behind-one-night-miami-180976768/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._W._Alexander_(musician)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Womack

The Soul Stirrer by Barney Hoskins: https://teachrock.org/article/the-soul-stirrer-sam-cooke/

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A listener letter sends the guys on the first of what could be many explorations into the backstories of some of the session musicians who made up the collective who would come to be known as “The Wrecking Crew.” Hear the story of the drummer who happened to be next door just in time to step into a powerful and historic musical moment.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Palmer

“I Hate My Generation” music video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOsNsOhyG8I

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosimo_Matassa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aladdin_Records

Backbeat, the book: https://www.louisianamusicfactory.com/product/tony-scherman-backbeat-earl-palmers-story-book/

Modern Drummer feature: https://www.moderndrummer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/md352cs.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelly_Manne https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/rock-hall-of-fame-drummer-earl-palmer-dead-at-84-254915/

https://www.adioslounge.com/sideman-spotlight-earl-palmer/

https://scottkfish.com/2016/01/23/earl-palmer-i-wasnt-quite-sure-what-i-wanted-to-do-with-my-life/

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-unlikely-story-of-a-change-is-gonna-come

https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=100689&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=1&r=954#bottom

https://www.nytimes.com/1958/06/13/archives/musicians-strike-spreads-on-coast-independents-hit-by-afm-film.html

Avelo’s “The Strike that Changed Disney Music”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBsGwNJ54-M

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Boudreaux

https://www.npr.org/2014/02/01/268995033/sam-cooke-and-the-song-that-almost-scared-him

https://blogs.loc.gov/now-see-hear/2021/02/on-the-recording-registry-a-change-is-gonna-come-1964/

https://pan-african-music.com/en/a-change-is-gonna-come-a-hymn-for-civil-rights/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFO_Records

https://www.facebook.com/WreckingCrewFilm/posts/on-this-date-june-3-1967-the-instrumental-tracks-for-never-my-love-by-the-associ/10157450423118023/

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A photo of a whole lot of famous rockers in one place gets the guys researching a record label that redefined the way music was listened to and sold in 1970’s America.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-tel

The photo: https://qr.ae/psvMqm

https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-dire-straits-thin-lizzy-eric-clapton-led-zeppelin-bad-company-and-109755815.html

https://www.discogs.com/release/12787001-Various-The-Summit

https://www.loudersound.com/news/led-zeppelin-once-released-a-song-on-k-tel-the-result-was-one-of-the-great-all-star-photos

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Year_of_the_Child

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNESCO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_the_Rights_of_the_Child

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concerts_for_the_People_of_Kampuchea

https://americansongwriter.com/remember-when-the-concerts-for-the-people-of-kampuchea/

https://hercsktelalbums.blogspot.com/2017/05/the-summit-uk-january-1980.html

https://mymusicthroughtheyears.wordpress.com/2022/01/08/the-rise-and-fall-of-k-tel-records/

https://www.mentalfloss.com/posts/k-tel-as-seen-on-tv-compilation-album-history

1997 Billboard ads celebrating KTEL: https://books.google.com/books?id=qQ4EAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA47-IA3&lpg=PA47-IA3&dq=K-Tel&source=bl&ots=C4AWmvPyX7&sig=ACfU3U2g9VCfSsuB5DT3Z-h2QJLfq56mZw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjd_-eXsav5AhUTg4kEHXgrDpg4WhDoAXoECAIQAw#v=onepage&q=K-Tel&f=false

https://www.tampabay.com/incoming/k-tels-shouting-infomercial-legend-dies-at-87/2275511/

Fun stuff about the history of Teflon: 

https://misen.com/blogs/news/polytetrafluoroethylene

https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/202104/history.cfm

https://playback.fm/charts/top-100-songs/1938

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Gr%C3%A9goire

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/philip-kives-founder-of-k-tel-and-pioneering-pitchman-went-from-coveralls-to-riches

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The guys get into boy bands, big songs, and bad behavior (mixed with a little hotel history and a nod to classic literature) when a fan writes the show to ask about what really happened back in 1991 in their hometown of Louisville, KY when Jonathan, Jordan, Joey, Donnie and Danny came through for a night few would ever forget…

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_Hotel_(Louisville,_Kentucky)

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1991/04/11/New-Kids-Wahlberg-settles-hotel-fire-case/1007671342400/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seelbach_Hotel

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1991-03-28-ca-1193-story.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Magic_Summer_Tour

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Starr

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Kids_on_the_Block

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Edition

https://www.billboard.com/music/features/new-edition-story-bet-movie-interview-7647963/

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-06-04-ca-2513-story.html

https://www.nytimes.com/1990/03/11/arts/pop-view-white-singers-black-style-pop-bonanza.html

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/new-kids-on-the-block-from-puberty-to-platinum-112529/

https://www.nickiswift.com/263548/what-every-member-of-new-kids-on-the-block-is-doing-today/

https://tropedia.fandom.com/wiki/New_Kids_on_the_Block

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/new-kids-on-the-block-biography-wahlberg-knight-mcintyre-wood-375264/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangin%27_Tough

https://www.wecb.fm/the-scandal-that-left-new-kids-on-the-block-affected-after-being-accused-of-being-fakes/

https://www.nickiswift.com/458256/the-real-reason-donnie-wahlberg-nearly-got-20-years-in-prison/

https://www.nytimes.com/1991/03/28/style/chronicle-825491.html

https://www.ebay.com/itm/295452486665

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1991/03/27/New-Kids-Wahlberg-charged-with-arson/6668670050000/

Entertainment Tonight Report - Sept 90 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1h6AOq85Kc

Mad Magazine (Simpsons Clip) (youtube.com)

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Brian and Murdock examine their differing attitudes towards the post-grunge rock of Scott Stapp and Mark Tremonti and dig through the tabloid headlines to figure out what happened in that hotel bar on Thanksgiving of 2005.

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Over the Edge CD sampler on Ebay: https://www.ebay.com/p/1300684030

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/scott-stapp-and-311-brawl-100131/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/311_(band)

https://thepier.org/311-20th-anniversary-of-grassroots-album/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Stapp

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Hanson_(music_executive)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind-up_Records

Klosterman Creed piece: https://grantland.com/features/taking-concert-doubleheader-creed-nickelback-world-most-hated-bands/

https://www.mtv.com/news/cxi4cf/scott-stapp-in-car-accident-creed-tour-canceled

https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=101228&page=1

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2003/04/28/some-creed-fans-are-singing-a-different-tune-after-concert/

https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/creed-apologizes-for-bizarre-chicago-gig-72699/

https://311archive.com/performance-history/#2005

AP version of the story: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-creed-singer-in-hotel-fight/

https://www.metalunderground.com/news/details.cfm?newsid=17022

scott stapp drunk poker – Video Search Results (yahoo.com)

Theo Von/Scott Stapp interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zce4lSBWPoM

https://www.phillyvoice.com/pv-311-about-bar-fight-scott-stapp/

https://www.grunge.com/254884/how-scott-stapp-ended-up-completely-broke/

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The guys get into a stack of letters regarding rock songs that seem to be about a specific location and end up talking GNR, Huey Lewis, and… Rush Limbaugh.

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https://www.songfacts.com/place/lafayette-indiana/paradise-city

https://musicfans.stackexchange.com/questions/373/is-the-song-paradise-city-written-about-a-specific-city

https://www.indystar.com/story/entertainment/2021/09/21/guns-n-roses-axl-rose-paradise-city-song-bloomington-indiana-claims/8418020002/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradise,_Indiana

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradise_City

Hanoi Rocks – Lost in the City

https://people.com/huey-lewis-upcoming-broadway-show-salvation-hearing-loss-exclusive-8552175

https://people.com/music/huey-lewis-menieres-disease-cancels-shows-hearing-loss/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huey_Lewis_and_the_News

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/regional-versions-of-huey-lewis-the-heart-of-rock-n-roll.108524/

Alternate versions of “Heart of Rock and Roll” – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqlr2qoa5Uc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_and_Roll_Hall_of_Fame

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_City_Was_Gone

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akron,_Ohio

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_to_Crawl

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/chrissie-hynde-rush-limbaugh/

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The guys get into showbiz history when they tear open a letter from a listener still trying to figure out what all the hype was about when it came to those blonde-haired Nelson twins.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozzie_Nelson

https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2019/10/full-nelson-the-surprising-story-of-ozzie-and-harriet/

https://postcardhistory.net/2020/12/ozzie-and-harriet-and-david-and-rickee/

https://www.nytimes.com/1998/06/18/arts/dousing-the-glow-of-tv-s-first-family-time-for-the-truth-about-ozzie-and-harriet.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturday_Night_Live_(season_11)

https://www.udiscovermusic.com/stories/cant-live-without-your-love-affection-nelson-feature/

https://gabbyawards.blogspot.com/2018/01/saturday-night-live-season-11-reviews_30.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Ricky_Nelson

Nothin But a Good Time book: https://www.amazon.com/N%C3%B6thin-But-Good-Time-Uncensored/dp/1250195756

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Skelton

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_(band)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricky_Nelson

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The guys go looking for anything to prove that the internet stories about Liam Gallagher harassing Jon Bon Jovi might be true. 

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https://www.stopcryingyourheartout.co.uk/2008/02/bon-jovi-on-his-spat-with-oasis-robbie.html

https://vinylwriters.com/liam-gallagher-a-modern-day-nietzsche/

https://twitter.com/NoelOasisQuotes/status/329323421752258561

https://drycounty.com/jovitalk/bon-jovi-discussion-f7/jon-bon-jovi-and-the-songs-he-cleverly-t54006/page2.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Bon_Jovi

https://www.loudersound.com/news/richie-sambora-on-kiss-audition-i-didnt-want-the-gig

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bon_Jovi

https://axeologyextended.wordpress.com/2018/09/20/ye-olde-10th-anniversary-tour-ace-frehley/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Child

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/bon-jovi-keep-the-faith/

https://bonjovibg.tripod.com/instyle.htm

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/dried-up-oasis-1.132150

https://fanclubyears.home.blog/1995/06/28/bon-jovi-these-days-tour-sheffield-1995/

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskUK/comments/uzvdg7/how_did_the_recordings_of_top_of_the_pops_go/

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/aug/05/jump-the-shark-top-of-the-pops

https://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/arid-30326269.html

1st night at Wembley 1995 – https://youtu.be/7Op7SIDvXQc?feature=shared

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/jon-bon-jovi-destination-anywhere/

https://drycounty.com/jovitalk/bon-jovi-discussion-f7/jon-bon-jovi-and-the-songs-he-cleverly-t54006/page2.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Be_Here_Now_(album)

https://www.mtv.com/news/6h2xqh/oasis-singer-challenges-stones-beatles

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The guys get into generational angst, manufactured music scenes, and the authenticity that came pouring out of Seattle in spite of itself when they start sorting out supergroups and stories from the Pacific Northwest in the early 90’s.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_the_Dog

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Season_(band)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Pavitt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grunge

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KAOS_%28FM%29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub_Pop

https://brucepavitt.com/sub-pop-usa/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Poneman

https://seattlemag.com/food-and-culture/sub-pop-timeline/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_River_(band)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Endino

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wood_(singer)

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/temple-of-the-dog-an-oral-history-120453/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_the_Dog

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Baker_Saunders

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_in_Chains

https://www.loudersound.com/features/a-spiritual-mission-the-tragic-story-of-grunge-supergroup-mad-season

https://www.nytimes.com/1992/11/15/style/grunge-a-success-story.html

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The guys get a “sliding doors” email about the 2003 true crime tragedy involving a nightclub, spray foam, gerbs, and a lot of good intentions/bad results. 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Russell_(musician)

https://listeniowa.com/open-waters-a-conversation-with-great-whites-mark-kendall/

https://www.amazon.com/N%C3%B6thin-But-Good-Time-Uncensored/dp/1250195756

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_White

https://www.wgbh.org/news/local/2023-02-21/20-years-after-the-station-nightclub-fire-a-look-at-whats-changed

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Station_nightclub_fire

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocoanut_Grove_fire

https://www.publishersweekly.com/9781250131263

Trial By Fire: https://www.amazon.com/Trial-Fire-Devastating-Tragedy-15-Year/dp/125013126X/

From the Ashes: https://www.amazon.com/Ashes-Surviving-Station-Nightclub-Fire/dp/0741457911/

Killer Show: https://www.amazon.com/Killer-Show-Nightclub-Americas-Deadliest/dp/1611688531/

https://www.providencejournal.com/story/news/special-reports/2013/02/12/20130212-after-prison-biechele-rebuilding-life-in-fla-ece/35432075007/

https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Band_manager_Daniel_Biechele_shown_parole_support_by_families_of_victims_of_the_Station_nightclub_fire

https://www.capecodtimes.com/story/news/2003/02/22/stone-pony-boss-feb-14/50968710007/

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The guys get to the bottom of a sliding doors moment that almost put Dimebag Darrell and Dave Mustaine in the same musical outfit. Plus, they explore what really happened during the Damage Plan show in Columbus, 2003. 

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https://www.gatehousetreatment.com/blog/quaaludes-rise-and-fall-drug/

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33428487

https://www.theringer.com/2022/10/26/23423952/pantera-walk-dimebag-darrell-history

https://blog.siriusxm.com/pantera-vinnie-paul

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantera

https://secondhandsongs.com/artist/94146/all

Jerry Abbott – “One Night Stanley” – https://youtu.be/8AA10u7nHdQ?feature=shared

Jerry Abbott – “I Want a Little Cowboy” – https://youtu.be/2hcDkEQj-ig?feature=shared

Buck Owens – “Play Together Again, Again” – https://youtu.be/F_GmsGfUjBo?feature=shared

Jerry Abbott’s book: https://www.amazon.com/Over-My-Left-Shoulder-Dimebag-ebook/dp/B00R3L7I7M/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Metal_(album)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimebag_Darrell

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megadeth

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Behler

https://web.archive.org/web/20131211012459/http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/news/megadeth-bitching-mustaine-and-young-at-war/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Young

https://www.tampabay.com/music/megadeths-dave-mustaine-talks-experience-hendrix-tour-trans-siberian-orchestra-his-evolving-politics-and-more-20190228/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Menza

https://www.rollingstone.com/feature/behind-the-murder-of-dimebag-darrell-233541/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mom-of-concert-killer-he-was-sick/

https://blabbermouth.net/news/cop-who-took-out-dimebags-killer-says-he-is-still-in-counseling-10-years-after-shooti

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The guys get a listener inquiry asking for the history of rock n rollers getting entangled in “gross out contests.”

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https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/03/the-dirt-movie-ozzy-osbourne

https://loudwire.com/ozzy-osbourne-snorting-ants-story-fake/

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/tommy-lee-challenged-ozzy-osbourne-gross-out/

Motley Crue on Howard Stern clip: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=629778755450180

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/frank-zappa-wins-gross-out-contest-gruesome-rock-legends/

https://consequence.net/2021/11/gross-concert-moments-shocking-list/2/

https://consequence.net/2021/11/brass-against-urination-incident-police-report-more-details/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Zappa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgard_Var%C3%A8se

Letter to Varese: https://orchestra2001.org/inner.php?pageid=1468

Zappa writing about Varese in Stereo Review in 1971: https://www.afka.net/Articles/1971-06_Stereo_Review.htm

https://www.loudersound.com/features/frank-zappa-the-torture-never-stops

https://www.grunge.com/785426/the-unexpected-reason-frank-zappa-was-arrested/

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/the-gross-out-contest/

https://www.eastvalleytribune.com/get_out/outrageous-stage-antics-made-alice-cooper-a-superstar/article_7f7509e0-0dcc-522f-8fc8-b06f23da4158.html

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/frank-zappa-alice-cooper-relationship/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Beefheart

Beefheart as a child sculptor: http://www.beefheart.com/don-vliet-and-agostinho-rodrigues-by-steve-froy/

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/five-wild-moments-frank-zappa/

https://newrepublic.com/article/160383/weird-frank-zappa-documentary-review

Blind Melon Live at the Metro 9/27/95: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkbLMj060SI

Review of the Blind Melon pee incident: https://www.straight.com/blogra/526086/20-years-ago-shannon-hoon-blind-melon-pees-stage-vancouver

https://consequence.net/2021/11/brass-against-singer-urinates-on-fan-onstage/

Blind Melon at Woodstock 94

Blind Melon (08/13/94) Woodstock 94 (Full Show) (youtube.com)Z

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Inspired by recent headlines about irate fans upset with Madonna for late concert start times, the guys deep dive on the tardy party reputation of Guns N’ Roses and the chaos that followed in their wake during the 1992 leg of the Use Your Illusion Tour.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-68027965

https://www.cnn.com/2013/03/05/showbiz/music/performers-late-to-stage/index.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ruthblatt/2014/05/27/how-being-late-and-volatile-was-axl-roses-contribution-to-the-guns-n-roses-brand/?sh=49a7a8387e89

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/guns-n-roses-historic-concerts/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_Your_Illusion_Tour

https://blabbermouth.net/news/duff-mckagan-says-guns-n-roses-toured-for-two-years-in-support-of-use-your-illusion-just-to-break-even

https://www.spin.com/2020/04/quarantine-classic-concerts-guns-n-roses-use-your-illusion-tour-91-93/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_John_(photographer)

https://loudwire.com/guns-n-roses-metallica-tour-anniversary/

https://www.loudersound.com/features/the-top-ten-pyromaniacs

Behind the Music clip about the Metallica pyro incident: 

https://youtu.be/uyJpou3R4KA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns_N%27_Roses/Metallica_Stadium_Tour

https://www.loudersound.com/features/guns-n-roses-metallica-and-the-greatest-rock-show-on-earth

https://www.themetalvoice.com/post/guns-n-roses-metallica-riot-in-montreal-28-years-ago-aug-8-1992-as-remembered-by-perrin-wolfson

https://montrealgazette.com/entertainment/music/welcome-back-to-the-jungle-the-1992-metallicaguns-n-roses-debacle

“Civil War” in Chile, 1992: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXeJNHFaGAI&list=PLE2FB82F88D1A5C3C&index=3

https://www.artistwd.com/joyzine/music/gnr/axl_rose.php#:~:text=At%20the%20band’s%20concert%20in,threatened%20to%20cancel%20the%20concert.

https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/lauryn-hill-defends-being-notoriously-late-for-her-own-concerts/

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The guys finally get to the stack of listener letters asking questions about Fred, Wes and the rest of that band that calls themselves Limp Bizkit. They discuss antagonism, big breaks, crazy cover songs, music videos in high places, and the guitar legend who (sorta) auditioned for the band and then went military on them.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limp_Bizkit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip_Records_(1994)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Schur

Eruption: Conversations with Eddie Van Halen: https://www.vanhalenstore.com/page/VH/GiftGuide/B72

https://www.loudersound.com/news/eddie-van-halen-once-drove-a-tank-through-beverly-hills-to-fred-dursts-house-and-pulled-a-gun-on-him

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollin%27_(Limp_Bizkit_song)

https://headbangerzclub.net/news/the-bizarre-letter-limp-bizkit-received-a-day-before-the-9/11-wtc-attacks

https://www.fantrippers.com/en/fanspots/world-trade-center/

https://www.facebook.com/WorldTradeCenterConcerts/

https://www.facebook.com/WorldTradeCenterConcerts/

https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/the-austin-j-tobin-plaza.2318334/

https://www.theculturist.com/home/depeche-mode-singing-enjoy-the-silence-on-top-of-the-world-trade-center-in-1990

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/crushing-a-beetle-how-van-halen-tried-to-disband-aerosmith-with-a-tank/

Aerosmith tank story from DLR’s Crazy from the Heat: https://www.vhnd.com/2011/07/25/van-halen-turbo-pop/

Eruption in the Canyon by Andrew Bennett book: https://www.eruptioninthecanyon.com/product-page/eruption-in-the-canyon-coffee-table-photo-book

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-04-11-me-53381-story.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mancow_Muller

https://www.mtv.com/news/vc47we/limp-bizkit-walk-offstage-after-chicago-crowd-gets-hostile

2003 forum posting about the concert: https://forum.dvdtalk.com/music-talk/307598-fred-durst-has

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The guys get a letter giving them permission to talk all about Kip Winger, Alan Parsons, Metallica, and the two cartoon teenagers who might have ruined a rock career.

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Murdock’s Winger concert poster: https://www.facebook.com/109986773920217/posts/cinderella-wwinger-and-the-bulletboys-may

-24-1989-at-the-starwood-amphitheatre-a/152499713002256/

Murdock’s favorite Winger song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWxNFr_EK_g

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kip_Winger

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winger_(band)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Parsons

https://pabook.libraries.psu.edu/literary-cultural-heritage-map-pa/bios/Michaels__Bret

https://www.rockhall.com/bon-jovi

https://www.cantonrep.com/story/entertainment/local/2015/06/04/tom-keifer-s-cinderella-story/34416499007/

Nothin’ But a Good Time – the book: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250195753/nothinbutagoodtime

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tape_op

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beau_Hill

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constrictor_(album)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Cooper

https://www.spin.com/2012/03/hated-nation-30-biggest-punching-bags-pop-history/8/

https://www.revolvermag.com/music/kip-winger-james-hetfield-apologized-metallicas-nothing-else-matters-dartboard-scene

https://www.loudersound.com/news/winger-end-feud-with-beavis-and-butt-head-writer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_Television

https://beavisandbutthead.fandom.com/wiki/Stewart_Stevenson

https://sleazeroxx.com/kip-winger-recalls-how-the-beavis-and-butt-head-television-show-hurt-wingers-career-early-on/

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/kip-winger-90s-backlash-metallica-mike-judge-232651140.html

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A listener letter sends Brian and Murdock into a discussion of rock n roll fashion, tragedy and technology. Hear the tale of the man who helped launch rock n roll and the song featuring his name that launched rock n roll into cyberspace.

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https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-culture/thatll-be-the-frames/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Phil_Silvers_Show

https://www.surfballroom.com/boxoffice/index.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surf_Ballroom

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/life/2018/02/02/buddy-holly-ritchie-valens-clear-lake-surf-ballroom-plane-crash-day-music-died/301561002/

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/buddy-hollys-glasses-lost-since-his-death-in-1959-are-found-in-mason-city-iowa

https://bestclassicbands.com/buddy-holly-glasses-found-2-29-166/

https://medium.com/the-riff/buddy-hollys-glasses-fe10793586b4

https://olioiniowa.com/blog/honor-the-day-the-music-died-at-the-buddy-holly-crash-site/

https://weezer.fandom.com/wiki/Buddy_Holly

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddy_Holly_(song)

https://www.avclub.com/read-this-weezer-s-buddy-holly-was-almost-ginger-ro-1834673465

https://www.kerrang.com/a-deep-dive-into-weezers-buddy-holly-video

http://weareclassicrockers.com/index.php/article/how-windows-95-started-some-classic-rock-connections

Nostalgia Nerd video about Windows 95: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOl94fO78nk

Newsreel of plane crash: https://youtu.be/k9ysfTO1Dfw?si=h1Dsxa7mztK46u8h

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Brian and Murdock talk Gram Parsons, drugs, fashion and that time a stolen suit showed up in a legendary performer’s closet – and no one noticed for 50 years…

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https://artillerymag.com/the-white-album-the-view-from-los-angeles-in-1969-and-how-the-1960s-gave-way-to-the-long-hangover-of-the-1970s/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Album_(book)

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/elton-john-missing-flying-burrito-brothers-nudie-suit-1234789732/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/found-chris-ethridge-of-the-flying-burrito-brothers-long-lost-nudie-suit/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Byrds

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gram_Parsons

https://lamag.com/music/drug-crazed-majesty-gram-parsons

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/flashback-the-byrds-flip-the-opry-script-186608/

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/flashback-the-byrds-flip-the-opry-script-186608/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudie_Cohn

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The guys get into the drug-fueled decisions and bad associations that put a price on Gregg Allman’s head and ended the biggest iteration of the Allman Brothers Band.

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https://ultimateclassicrock.com/allman-brothers-roadie-arrest/

https://mytruecrimestories.wordpress.com/2019/09/23/1st-rico-indictment-was-not-against-the-italians-it-was-against-the-dixie-mafia/

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/8/15/trump-georgia-indictment-what-is-rico-law

https://www.ajc.com/politics/what-to-know-about-georgias-rico-law/3Y2PBKLHWFDMLKYFEURTHLBVZY/

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/racketeer_influenced_and_corrupt_organizations_act_(rico)

http://alanpaul.net/2017/11/organization-man-twiggs-lyndons-wild-life-and-eerie-death/

https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/duane-allman-skydog-explained

https://www.duaneallman.info/macontelegraph10301971.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berry_Oakley

https://liveforlivemusic.com/features/berry-oakley-rip/

https://boundarystones.weta.org/2016/06/09/1973-grateful-dead-and-allman-brothers-mega-concert

https://deadessays.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-dead-and-allmans.html

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/the-allman-brothers-story-how-gregg-allman-keeps-band-going-after-duanes-death-75625/

USA vs Herring legal decision: https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/568/1099/288010/

The Cameron Crowe 73 article: 

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/the-allman-brothers-story-how-gregg-allman-keeps-band-going-after-duanes-death-75625/

https://ew.com/article/1992/07/10/gregg-allman-and-chers-troubled-marriage/

https://gangster405.rssing.com/chan-45492965/article210.html?zx=813

https://deadessays.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-de

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