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“This is turning out exactly the way scientists predicted, with one exception: it’s happening faster than they thought,” says political analyst David Gergen, who served in four presidential administrations. “The question is what can we do rapidly that would alleviate this and be fair to all.”
“There’s a lot of signs that voters, you know, they may not completely agree with the Green New Deal,” says Marianne Lavelle, a reporter with InsideClimate News, “but they’re not very happy with having politicians who are just not paying attention to climate and just not doing anything.”
Ultimately it is Republican voters who are pushing their legislators to act, since many of them, especially in western states, find their views on energy and conservation at odds with the current administration’s environmental policies.“The vast majority of western voters say we need to make sure that we protect [public lands] for all Americans,” notes Lori Weigel, a GOP pollster. “It shouldn't be something where economic value or resource extraction is taking priority over the uses that we’re most familiar with."
Guests:
David Gergen, Professor of Public Service and Founding Director, Center for Public Leadership, Harvard Kennedy School
Marianne Lavelle, Reporter, InsideClimate News
Lori Weigel, Partner, Public Opinion Strategies
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“This is turning out exactly the way scientists predicted, with one exception: it’s happening faster than they thought,” says political analyst David Gergen, who served in four presidential administrations. “The question is what can we do rapidly that would alleviate this and be fair to all.”
“There’s a lot of signs that voters, you know, they may not completely agree with the Green New Deal,” says Marianne Lavelle, a reporter with InsideClimate News, “but they’re not very happy with having politicians who are just not paying attention to climate and just not doing anything.”
Ultimately it is Republican voters who are pushing their legislators to act, since many of them, especially in western states, find their views on energy and conservation at odds with the current administration’s environmental policies.“The vast majority of western voters say we need to make sure that we protect [public lands] for all Americans,” notes Lori Weigel, a GOP pollster. “It shouldn't be something where economic value or resource extraction is taking priority over the uses that we’re most familiar with."
Guests:
David Gergen, Professor of Public Service and Founding Director, Center for Public Leadership, Harvard Kennedy School
Marianne Lavelle, Reporter, InsideClimate News
Lori Weigel, Partner, Public Opinion Strategies
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This program was recorded in front of a live audience at The Commonwealth Club of San Francisco on April 30, 2019.
During the 2016 presidential election, climate change barely surfaced as a campaign topic. This cycle it’s a different story.
“It’s gonna be the first election where it's a major issue,” predicts former congressman Carlos Curbelo (R-FL). “I don't support it, but we can thank the Green New Deal for that.”
Democrats have rallied around the Green New Deal and its lofty promise of a clean energy future. How will it realize its ambitious goals? Still unclear. But there can be no doubt that the tide of climate change awareness is rising among the nation’s voters. And more and more, as their constituents feel the effects of global warming in their own districts, Republicans find that they ignore the topic at their peril.
“In every single community in this country, you are able to identify a few changes to the detriment of all as a consequence of a changing climate,” says Ryan Costello, former U.S. representative from Pennsylvania. Costello, a Republican, now manages Americans for Carbon Dividends, an advocacy group that is supported by oil companies and promotes a price on carbon emissions.
“If you’re along the coast, rising sea levels,” Costello continues. “If you're in the Midwest, the land that you can grow on has shrunk; your crop season has shrunk. If you're in Oregon and Northern California the wildfires -- and on and on and on.
“This is really where the conversation has to go now in the next few years to come -- what the cost of climate change truly is.”
In 2018, Curbelo proposed legislation that would impose a carbon tax, which garnered the support of many of his GOP colleagues. What inspired him to act on an unpopular cause? For the South Florida community that first sent him to congress in 2015, the issue has become very close to home.
“In my community, an area that is at about sea level and where most people live near the sea, the threat is real, it's imminent. We get tidal flooding; our drinking water supply is threatened by saltwater intrusion.
“So that's why I decided to get involved.”
Still, even some Democrats have found themselves caught between the threat of a destabilized climate and other, more immediate, concerns. Christine Pelosi of the Democratic National Committee says that, from her perspective, the conversation is more regional than partisan.
“It has a lot more to do with a couple of things,” she says. “One is the existential threat that climate change presents, and the other is the dialogue in which people from poorer communities - frontline communities, indigenous communities, mining communities, industrial communities - say, ‘well, it may be true that the ecology as we know it is going to change in a dozen years. But your change is gonna change my family's economy in two years.”
As 2020 looms, many Republicans still fear that voicing support of climate solutions could torpedo their chances for reelection. Curbelo, who co-founded the bipartisan Climate Solutions Caucus in Congress, believes it’s time to put country ahead of career.
“If you are an elected leader of this country, you have a fiduciary responsibility to your constituents and to the country and to no one else,” Curbelo says. “So, yeah, perhaps leading on climate could make some Republicans vulnerable in a primary, perhaps negotiating with Republicans could make some Democrats vulnerable in a primary.
“Too bad -- that's what you signed up for, and we need you to do your job.”
Guests:
Ryan Costello, Former U.S. Representative (R-PA)
Christine Pelosi, Executive Committeewoman, Democratic National Committee
Carlos Curbelo, Former U.S. Representative (R-FL)
Related Links:
Climate Solutions Caucus
The Green New Deal
The Green Real Deal
Americans for Carbon Dividends
The Market Choice Act
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During the 2016 presidential election, climate change barely surfaced as a campaign topic. This cycle it’s a different story.
“It’s gonna be the first election where it's a major issue,” predicts former congressman Carlos Curbelo (R-FL). “I don't support it, but we can thank the Green New Deal for that.”
Democrats have rallied around the Green New Deal and its lofty promise of a clean energy future. How will it realize its ambitious goals? Still unclear. But there can be no doubt that the tide of climate change awareness is rising among the nation’s voters. And more and more, as their constituents feel the effects of global warming in their own districts, Republicans find that they ignore the topic at their peril.
“In every single community in this country, you are able to identify a few changes to the detriment of all as a consequence of a changing climate,” says Ryan Costello, former U.S. representative from Pennsylvania. Costello, a Republican, now manages Americans for Carbon Dividends, an advocacy group that is supported by oil companies and promotes a price on carbon emissions.
“If you’re along the coast, rising sea levels,” Costello continues. “If you're in the Midwest, the land that you can grow on has shrunk; your crop season has shrunk. If you're in Oregon and Northern California the wildfires -- and on and on and on.
“This is really where the conversation has to go now in the next few years to come -- what the cost of climate change truly is.”
In 2018, Curbelo proposed legislation that would impose a carbon tax, which garnered the support of many of his GOP colleagues. What inspired him to act on an unpopular cause? For the South Florida community that first sent him to congress in 2015, the issue has become very close to home.
“In my community, an area that is at about sea level and where most people live near the sea, the threat is real, it's imminent. We get tidal flooding; our drinking water supply is threatened by saltwater intrusion.
“So that's why I decided to get involved.”
Still, even some Democrats have found themselves caught between the threat of a destabilized climate and other, more immediate, concerns. Christine Pelosi of the Democratic National Committee says that, from her perspective, the conversation is more regional than partisan.
“It has a lot more to do with a couple of things,” she says. “One is the existential threat that climate change presents, and the other is the dialogue in which people from poorer communities - frontline communities, indigenous communities, mining communities, industrial communities - say, ‘well, it may be true that the ecology as we know it is going to change in a dozen years. But your change is gonna change my family's economy in two years.”
As 2020 looms, many Republicans still fear that voicing support of climate solutions could torpedo their chances for reelection. Curbelo, who co-founded the bipartisan Climate Solutions Caucus in Congress, believes it’s time to put country ahead of career.
“If you are an elected leader of this country, you have a fiduciary responsibility to your constituents and to the country and to no one else,” Curbelo says. “So, yeah, perhaps leading on climate could make some Republicans vulnerable in a primary, perhaps negotiating with Republicans could make some Democrats vulnerable in a primary.
“Too bad -- that's what you signed up for, and we need you to do your job.”
Guests:
Ryan Costello, Former U.S. Representative (R-PA)
Christine Pelosi, Executive Committeewoman, Democratic National Committee
Carlos Curbelo, Former U.S. Representative (R-FL)
Related Links:
Climate Solutions Caucus
The Green New Deal
The Green Real Deal
Americans for Carbon Dividends
The Market Choice Act
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While the environmental movement is typically associated with upper-class white folk, it is also a civil rights issue. Communities of color often live closest to factories and refineries that spew toxic pollution. That’s one reason why polls show more African Americans and Latinos say climate is a serious concern than whites.
So why do environmental movements lack diversity, and why has it been so difficult for nonprofits to reach communities of color?
Guests:
Ingrid Brostrom, Assistant Director, Center on Race, Poverty & the Environment
Rev. Dr. Gerald Durley, Board Member, Interfaith Power and Light
Mystic, Musician, Bay Area Coordinator, Hip Hop Caucus
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While the environmental movement is typically associated with upper-class white folk, it is also a civil rights issue. Communities of color often live closest to factories and refineries that spew toxic pollution. That’s one reason why polls show more African Americans and Latinos say climate is a serious concern than whites.
So why do environmental movements lack diversity, and why has it been so difficult for nonprofits to reach communities of color?
Guests:
Ingrid Brostrom, Assistant Director, Center on Race, Poverty & the Environment
Rev. Dr. Gerald Durley, Board Member, Interfaith Power and Light
Mystic, Musician, Bay Area Coordinator, Hip Hop Caucus
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Can changing our consciousness hold off the climate apocalypse? When we think about the enormity of climate change and what it’s doing to our planet, it’s easy to get overwhelmed, even shut down, by despair.
But is despair such a bad place to be? Or could it be the one thing that finally spurs us to action? A conversation about climate change, spirituality and the human condition in unsettling times.
Guests:
Roy Scranton, Author, "We're Doomed. Now What?" (Soho Press, 2018)
Matthew Fox, Co-Author, "Order of the Sacred Earth" (with Skylar Wilson, Monkfish, 2018)
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Can changing our consciousness hold off the climate apocalypse? When we think about the enormity of climate change and what it’s doing to our planet, it’s easy to get overwhelmed, even shut down, by despair.
But is despair such a bad place to be? Or could it be the one thing that finally spurs us to action? A conversation about climate change, spirituality and the human condition in unsettling times.
Guests:
Roy Scranton, Author, "We're Doomed. Now What?" (Soho Press, 2018)
Matthew Fox, Co-Author, "Order of the Sacred Earth" (with Skylar Wilson, Monkfish, 2018)
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Climate used to have bipartisan support. Now that the Republican party is skeptical about fighting climate, companies are moving into a leadership void. On the show today we'll hear from two former white house spokesmen in Republican and Democratic administrations now working on climate from different angles. Robert Gibbs addresses what McDonald's is doing to cut its carbon emissions and environmental impact. Jeff Nesbit heads a communications organization trying to get the climate story covered more prominently in the mainstream news media.
Guests
Robert Gibbs, Executive Vice President and Global Chief Communications Officer, McDonald's Corporation
Jeff Nesbit, Author and Executive Director, Climate Nexus
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Climate used to have bipartisan support. Now that the Republican party is skeptical about fighting climate, companies are moving into a leadership void. On the show today we'll hear from two former white house spokesmen in Republican and Democratic administrations now working on climate from different angles. Robert Gibbs addresses what McDonald's is doing to cut its carbon emissions and environmental impact. Jeff Nesbit heads a communications organization trying to get the climate story covered more prominently in the mainstream news media.
Guests
Robert Gibbs, Executive Vice President and Global Chief Communications Officer, McDonald's Corporation
Jeff Nesbit, Author and Executive Director, Climate Nexus
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Wildfires have always been part of the landscape in the western states. But the size and intensity of fires over the last several years is something new.
They are being called “megafires;” wildfires covering over 100,000 acres each. The higher temperatures and lower humidity, brought on by climate change, are whipping up these hotter and bigger wildfires. And people’s lives are being upended by the flames.
Today we’re exploring the damage megafires are unleashing on life, property and natural ecosystems – and forest management solutions.
Guests
Rich Gordon
President of the California Forestry Association
Lizzie Johnson
Staff Writer for the San Francisco Chronicle
Scott Stephens
Professor of Fire Science at University of California, Berkeley
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Wildfires have always been part of the landscape in the western states. But the size and intensity of fires over the last several years is something new.
They are being called “megafires;” wildfires covering over 100,000 acres each. The higher temperatures and lower humidity, brought on by climate change, are whipping up these hotter and bigger wildfires. And people’s lives are being upended by the flames.
Today we’re exploring the damage megafires are unleashing on life, property and natural ecosystems – and forest management solutions.
Guests
Rich Gordon
President of the California Forestry Association
Lizzie Johnson
Staff Writer for the San Francisco Chronicle
Scott Stephens
Professor of Fire Science at University of California, Berkeley
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Can a menu at a fancy restaurant be a map for solving the climate challenge? A handful of high-end chefs are using their restaurants to show how innovative grazing and growing practices can cut carbon pollution. Anthony Myint, asks “What would it look like if you had ... environmentalism right up there with deliciousness, as your top priorities?” Dominique Crenn, a two Michelin star chef, pushes to move beyond the restaurateurs who she says only pay lip service to responsibly sourcing their food. Theirs is an uncompromising approach to cutting carbon while maintaining the best of the best.
Gwyneth Borden
Executive Director, Golden Gate Restaurant Association
Dominique Crenn
Chef and Owner, Atelier Crenn
Anthony Myint
Chef and Co-owner, The Perennial
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Can a menu at a fancy restaurant be a map for solving the climate challenge? A handful of high-end chefs are using their restaurants to show how innovative grazing and growing practices can cut carbon pollution. Anthony Myint, asks “What would it look like if you had ... environmentalism right up there with deliciousness, as your top priorities?” Dominique Crenn, a two Michelin star chef, pushes to move beyond the restaurateurs who she says only pay lip service to responsibly sourcing their food. Theirs is an uncompromising approach to cutting carbon while maintaining the best of the best.
Gwyneth Borden
Executive Director, Golden Gate Restaurant Association
Dominique Crenn
Chef and Owner, Atelier Crenn
Anthony Myint
Chef and Co-owner, The Perennial
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On the eve of the Global Climate Action Summit (GCAS), we started the conversation about how solutions could be led by states, cities, businesses and NGOs.
The Paris Climate Accord was successful in bringing together the entire world around a common goal. But as Gina McCarthy points out, “We need to get together and figure out how you address and drive solutions to climate that actually end up in not just a cleaner and healthier and more sustainable world, but one that’s more just.”
This event is in partnership with Cool Effect, Capital Public Radio and the Global Climate Action Summit.
Guests
Marisa de Belloy
CEO, Cool Effect; Executive Director, Overlook International Foundation
Gina McCarthy
Director, The Center for Climate, Health, and the Global Environment, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
Bill McKibben
Founder, 350.org
Tom Steyer
Founder and President, NextGen America
Gloria Walton
President and CEO, Strategic Concepts in Organizing and Policy Education
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On the eve of the Global Climate Action Summit (GCAS), we started the conversation about how solutions could be led by states, cities, businesses and NGOs.
The Paris Climate Accord was successful in bringing together the entire world around a common goal. But as Gina McCarthy points out, “We need to get together and figure out how you address and drive solutions to climate that actually end up in not just a cleaner and healthier and more sustainable world, but one that’s more just.”
This event is in partnership with Cool Effect, Capital Public Radio and the Global Climate Action Summit.
Guests
Marisa de Belloy
CEO, Cool Effect; Executive Director, Overlook International Foundation
Gina McCarthy
Director, The Center for Climate, Health, and the Global Environment, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
Bill McKibben
Founder, 350.org
Tom Steyer
Founder and President, NextGen America
Gloria Walton
President and CEO, Strategic Concepts in Organizing and Policy Education
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Solutions to the climate crisis include driving cleaner cars, planting more trees, eating less meat. But how do our housing choices factor into this?
Where we build housing and how close it is to mass transit has a big impact on our carbon footprint. Plans to green our cities should include new, urban housing that’s convenient to transportation. But this runs the risk of boosting the real estate market and gentrifying the neighborhood out of the reach of all but the wealthy. Can we build smart and affordable at the same time?
Guests
Ann Cheng
Transportation expert at TransForm
Isela Gracian
President of the East LA Community Corporation
Rachel Swan
City Hall reporter with the San Francisco Chronicle
Scott Wiener
State senator representing San Francisco, Daly City and Colma
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Solutions to the climate crisis include driving cleaner cars, planting more trees, eating less meat. But how do our housing choices factor into this?
Where we build housing and how close it is to mass transit has a big impact on our carbon footprint. Plans to green our cities should include new, urban housing that’s convenient to transportation. But this runs the risk of boosting the real estate market and gentrifying the neighborhood out of the reach of all but the wealthy. Can we build smart and affordable at the same time?
Guests
Ann Cheng
Transportation expert at TransForm
Isela Gracian
President of the East LA Community Corporation
Rachel Swan
City Hall reporter with the San Francisco Chronicle
Scott Wiener
State senator representing San Francisco, Daly City and Colma
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Fossil fuels have helped bring people out of poverty around the world, and many people working in the industry are proud of their contribution. William Vollmann writes about the lives of laborers and executives in different parts of the vast fossil fuel system. Discussing an alternative path for these communities, National Director of Green for All Michelle Romero advocates, “for some, retraining is a viable option and for others nearing retirement...maybe providing a benefit package that will help.” Explore the lives of those who remain captives of an economy run on carbon.
Guests
Michelle Romero
National Director, Green For All
William Vollmann
Author, No Good Alternative: Volume 2 of Carbon Ideologies
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Fossil fuels have helped bring people out of poverty around the world, and many people working in the industry are proud of their contribution. William Vollmann writes about the lives of laborers and executives in different parts of the vast fossil fuel system. Discussing an alternative path for these communities, National Director of Green for All Michelle Romero advocates, “for some, retraining is a viable option and for others nearing retirement...maybe providing a benefit package that will help.” Explore the lives of those who remain captives of an economy run on carbon.
Guests
Michelle Romero
National Director, Green For All
William Vollmann
Author, No Good Alternative: Volume 2 of Carbon Ideologies
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The reality of permanent change along the shoreline is starting to slowly sink in. Recent studies indicate that vulnerability to changing tides is starting to be reflected in property markets around the country. And now cities are grappling with how to build roads, airports and other infrastructure for a very uncertain future. How fast and how high will the tides rise? No one knows for sure but every new forecast tends to be faster and higher than scientists predicted just a few years ago.
Elaine Forbes
Executive Director, Port of San Francisco
Nahal Ghoghaie
Bay Area Program Lead, The Environmental Justice Coalition for Water
Larry Goldzband
Executive Director, Bay Conservation and Development Commission
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The reality of permanent change along the shoreline is starting to slowly sink in. Recent studies indicate that vulnerability to changing tides is starting to be reflected in property markets around the country. And now cities are grappling with how to build roads, airports and other infrastructure for a very uncertain future. How fast and how high will the tides rise? No one knows for sure but every new forecast tends to be faster and higher than scientists predicted just a few years ago.
Elaine Forbes
Executive Director, Port of San Francisco
Nahal Ghoghaie
Bay Area Program Lead, The Environmental Justice Coalition for Water
Larry Goldzband
Executive Director, Bay Conservation and Development Commission
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California. Land of sunshine and seashore. In an effort to protect the state’s magnificent landscape, California has led the country in environmental action. It established strong automobile emission standards. It preserved fragile lands from development. But as climate change fuels megafires across the state and sea level rise threatens the coast, is California doing enough, fast enough?
Huey Johnson
Chair, Resource Renewal Institute
Jason Mark
Editor, Sierra Magazine
David Vogel
Author, California Greenin’: How the Golden State Became an Environmental Leader
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California. Land of sunshine and seashore. In an effort to protect the state’s magnificent landscape, California has led the country in environmental action. It established strong automobile emission standards. It preserved fragile lands from development. But as climate change fuels megafires across the state and sea level rise threatens the coast, is California doing enough, fast enough?
Huey Johnson
Chair, Resource Renewal Institute
Jason Mark
Editor, Sierra Magazine
David Vogel
Author, California Greenin’: How the Golden State Became an Environmental Leader
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Production of animal protein is producing vast amounts of climate-eating gases. But a new generation of companies are creating innovative food products that mimic meat and have much smaller environmental impacts. Some of this mock meat is derived from plants with ingredients designed to replicate the taste and pleasure of chomping into a beef hamburger. Others are growing meat cells that come from a laboratory and not a cow. Will those options wean enough people from burgers and chicken wings to go mainstream?
Guests
Patrick O. Brown
CEO and Founder, Impossible Foods
Carolyn Jung
Journalist/Blogger, FoodGal.com
Mike Selden
CEO and Co-founder, Finless Foods
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Production of animal protein is producing vast amounts of climate-eating gases. But a new generation of companies are creating innovative food products that mimic meat and have much smaller environmental impacts. Some of this mock meat is derived from plants with ingredients designed to replicate the taste and pleasure of chomping into a beef hamburger. Others are growing meat cells that come from a laboratory and not a cow. Will those options wean enough people from burgers and chicken wings to go mainstream?
Guests
Patrick O. Brown
CEO and Founder, Impossible Foods
Carolyn Jung
Journalist/Blogger, FoodGal.com
Mike Selden
CEO and Co-founder, Finless Foods
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Can changing our consciousness hold off the climate apocalypse? When we think about the enormity of climate change and what it’s doing to our planet, it’s easy to get overwhelmed, even shut down, by despair.
But is despair such a bad place to be? Or could it be the one thing that finally spurs us to action? A conversation about climate change, spirituality and the human condition in unsettling times.
Guests:
Roy Scranton, Author, "We're Doomed. Now What?" (Soho Press, 2018)
Matthew Fox, Co-Author, "Order of the Sacred Earth" (with Skylar Wilson, Monkfish, 2018)
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Can changing our consciousness hold off the climate apocalypse? When we think about the enormity of climate change and what it’s doing to our planet, it’s easy to get overwhelmed, even shut down, by despair.
But is despair such a bad place to be? Or could it be the one thing that finally spurs us to action? A conversation about climate change, spirituality and the human condition in unsettling times.
Guests:
Roy Scranton, Author, "We're Doomed. Now What?" (Soho Press, 2018)
Matthew Fox, Co-Author, "Order of the Sacred Earth" (with Skylar Wilson, Monkfish, 2018)
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