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This week’s installment of the Road to COP 28 features the second half of a discussion from a panel of experts chaired by Frederick “Fritz” Mayer, Dean of the Josef Korbel School of International Studies. Our panel of experts includes author and science journalist Laurie Garrett, NASA Climate Scientist Peter Kalmus, Professor at the University College London Mark Maslin, Professor at Yale School of the Environment Robert O. Mendelsohn, Associate Professor in the Rutgers School of Environmental and Biological Sciences Karen M. O’Neill, Associate Professor at the University of California Santa Cruz and the Rutgers School of Environmental and Biological Sciences Malin L. Pinsky, and Director of USC Annenberg’s Center for Climate Journalism and Communication Allison Agsten. Tune in for the rest of their conversation on what actions both individuals and governments must take to combat climate change. In addition, we’ve included a segment from our recent conversation with Dr. Michael Mann, who shares his outlook for the COP 28 conference.


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The October 7th attack on Israel was shocking not only in its scale, but for the way in which Israeli intelligence seems to have been caught by surprise. Admiral James “Sandy” Winnefeld joins Marc and David to discuss how this could have happened, why the intelligence failures go beyond just Israel, and what could be next for the region. Don’t miss this important episode.

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Published 2023-10-09

The Dangers of a US Blank Check for Israel

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Saturday, October 7 will likely go down as one of, if not the worst day, in Israel’s history. While Israel was focused on the West Bank and moving toward normalization with Saudi Arabia, Hamas was planning and plotting this attack right under Benjamin Netanyahu’s nose. We discuss the extraordinary events with our experts, Rula Jebreal and Alon Pinkas. Will Bibi survive this attack politically? And how should the United State respond? Tune in to find out the answers to these questions and more on this special episode of Deep State Radio.

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Published 2023-10-08

From the Silo: Seeking a Speaker

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Original Air Date: January 6, 2023

On this week's episode, Norm and Kavita talk about Kevin McCarthy's quixotic quest to become speaker of the House and what it means for average Americans. What does this clown show mean for the most pressing issues facing the United States? Members of The DSR Network get a bonus conversation about the COVID crisis in China and how anti-vax terrorists are seizing on high profile deaths and injuries.

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Original Air Date: December 8, 2022

The Supreme Court is back in session and taking on a number of hot button issues this session. To break down the latest episode, David sits down with Dahlia Lithwick of Slate. How likely is the Supreme Court to side with those pushing the Independent State Legislature doctrine? How much do our hopes hinge on Amy Coney Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh? Is masterpiece cakeshop coming back from the dead? Find out during this timely discussion. Don't miss it.

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On a very special episode of We’re All Going to Die Radio, Jon sits down with the Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency, Rafael Grossi. Director General Grossi shares how the IAEA has adapted to address nuclear threats from the war in Ukraine, how Iran’s pursuit of nuclear weapons has changed, and more. Don’t miss this important and insightful episode.

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Every day there are new developments on multiple legal fronts for Donald Trump and the prosecutors that are seeking to hold him to account. We explore the most recent news and what to expect in the weeks ahead with legal experts Harry Litman and Barb McQuade. Don't miss it.

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The first episode from our Green Growth panel in the Road to COP 28 series is here. This week’s episode features a new panel of experts chaired by Frederick “Fritz” Mayer, Dean of the Josef Korbel School of International Studies. Our panel of experts includes author and science journalist Laurie Garrett, NASA Climate Scientist Peter Kalmus, Professor at the University College London Mark Maslin, Professor at Yale School of the Environment Robert O. Mendelsohn, Associate Professor in the Rutgers School of Environmental and Biological Sciences Karen M. O’Neill, Associate Professor at the University of California Santa Cruz and the Rutgers School of Environmental and Biological Sciences Malin L. Pinsky, and Director of USC Annenberg’s Center for Climate Journalism and Communication Allison Agsten. Don’t miss their critical conversation on what needs to be done to get us to a more sustainable future, and the numerous challenges ahead of COP 28.


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The chaos in the House of Representatives could mean chaos for Ukraine. With the potential for a less sympathetic Speaker, US aid is at even greater risk. Rosa Brooks, Ivo Daalder, and Mark Hertling join David to examine the potential threats to continuing aid for Ukraine and the far-reaching consequences of its reduction.

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Published 2023-10-03

Dr. Michael Mann: Our Fragile Moment

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Dr. Michael Mann’s new book, Our Fragile Moment: How Lessons from Earth's Past Can Help Us Survive the Climate Crisis, serves as both a warning and a call to action to combat the unfolding climate crisis. Dr. Mann joins David to discuss how we got to this point, why action has been so slow, and what we can do to reverse course before it’s too late.

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Original Air Date: July 23, 2022

This week features University of Michigan law professor, co-host of the #SistersinLaw podcast and MSNBC legal analysis royalty, Barbara McQuade. Marissa and Barbara go deep on the January 6 commission’s prime-time hearing, from Josh Hawley’s gazelle-like leaps to the stunning revelation that the vice-president’s Secret Service detail was afraid they would be killed protecting him. Barbara also shares evidence that could prove Trump committed involuntary manslaughter and explains how to get a recalcitrant witness to talk. (Yoo-hoo, Mark Meadows!) Meanwhile, Marissa bakes chocolate-chocolate-chocolate chip cookies.

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Published 2023-09-30

From the Archive: Democracy vs Inflation

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Original Air Date: June 14, 2022

President Biden is headed to Saudi Arabia and will meet with Mohammed bin Salman. Is this the end for the "Democracy vs. Autocracy" framing of America's foreign policy. David Rothkopf talks with Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University, David Sanger of the New York Times, and Ed Luce of the Financial Times about this and other foreign policy issues facing the Biden Administration. Should Biden be having this meeting at all? Will it do anything to tame gas prices ahead of the midterm? Is there any way to keep the moral clarity of Biden's "Democracy vs. Autocracy" framing while working in a messy world? The answer to these and other vital questions facing the Biden Administration during this far-ranging episode. Join us! 

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It turns out that peace in the Middle East is harder than it sounds. Between the elusive peace deal between Saudi Arabia and Israel and the threat of a nuclear-armed Iran, the Biden administration has its work cut out for it. Thankfully, David and Jon are joined by Alon Pinkas and Barbara Slavin to remind us that while things may not be as bad as they seem, they can always get worse.

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Published 2023-09-27

The Road to COP 28: Episode 2

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The first episode in our series leading up to the COP28 summit in November will be distributed in two parts. This episode, called the Road to COP28, features the second half of a roundtable conversation hosted by Rachel Kyte, Dean Emerita of the Fletcher School at Tufts University. Senator Ben Cardin from Maryland also joins the conversation to share his insight on the COP event and efforts to address climate issues in the US Senate. Our panel of experts includes Professor at the University College London Mark Maslin, Interim Chair of the IUCN Climate Crisis Commission Manuel Pulgar-Vidal, Director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies Gavin Schmidt, Chief of Government Relations at the Woodwell Climate Research Center David McGlinchey, and Co-Founding Dean Emerita of the Columbia Climate School Ruth DeFries. Their conversation sets the stage for what needs to be done at the upcoming COP 28 conference, and foreshadows what real policy changes, if any, may come as a result. Join us for this extremely critical discussion.

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General Mark Milley has galvanized discourse on not only the Trump presidency, but the military’s role in political discourse. Kori Schake and David Sanger join David to consider whether General Milley went too far in his public criticism of the President, and the dangers of a more political military. 

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Published 2023-09-26

Heather Richardson: Democracy Awakening

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Heather Richardson’s new book, Democracy Awakening: Notes on the State of America, explores how a small group of wealthy people have made war on American ideals. Heather joins David to reflect on the challenges to democracy throughout American history to the present day.

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As technology rapidly evolves, America’s intelligence community needs to get smarter. David and Marc are joined by the former deputy director of the CIA Michael Morell to break down the challenges of our intelligence services and what must be done to meet the security challenges of both today and tomorrow.

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Original Air Date: July 23, 2022

On this week's episode, we talk about how the Republican Party is embracing ideologies that used to be fringe, how the media is missing the mark, and what the future of the GOP could look like. We ground all of our analysis in the words of Matt Birk, David Brooks, and Joe O'Dea.

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Original Air Date: October 7, 2022

Recent reporting has revealed the Trump may be holding onto additional classified documents. To discuss this news and the future of the January 6th committee, David spoke with Mary McCord of Georgetown University and Norm Ornstein of the Words Matter Podcast. Should the DOJ approach its case differently as Trump is a former President? Is the DOJ pursuing additional searches? What is in store for the final hearings of the January 6th committee? Find out the answers to these and other questions during this thoughtful conversation. Join us!

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Will our AI apocalypse look like Skynet or the Matrix? Paul Scharre, Executive Vice President and Director of Studies at CNAS, joins David and Jon to shed light on even the non-apocalyptic ways AI will change the future for AI and whether society will be able to adapt in time.

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Norm and David are not happy, and for good reason. The latest judiciary committee hearing reminds us all how far down the rabbit hole the Republican party has gone in the pursuit of scorched-earth politics, but it is not the only example of Republican lunacy this week. Norm and David break down the latest news and more in suitably ranty fashion.

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The purpose of the news is to be truthful. Yet the predominant feeling among the biggest outlets seems to be that appearing to be “balanced” is the real priority. The New Republic’s Michael Tomasky joins David to discuss how and why this could help Donald Trump win in 2024 as the media hammers Biden and ignores glaring issues in the Republican party.



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Published 2023-09-20

The Road to COP 28: Episode 1

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The first episode in our series leading up to the COP28 summit in November will be distributed in two parts. This episode, called the Road to COP28, features a one-on-one conversation hosted by Rachel Kyte, Dean Emerita of the Fletcher School at Tufts University, and Ambassador Majid Al Suwaidi, Director General of COP28. Following their conversation, Rachel chairs a panel discussion featuring Professor at the University College London Mark Maslin, Interim Chair of the IUCN Climate Crisis Commission Manuel Pulgar-Vidal, Director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies Gavin Schmidt, Chief of Government Relations at the Woodwell Climate Research Center David McGlinchey, and Co-Founding Dean Emerita of the Columbia Climate School Ruth DeFries. Their conversation sets the stage for what needs to be done at the upcoming COP 28 conference, and foreshadows what real policy changes, if any, may come as a result. Join us for this extremely critical discussion.


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While much conventional wisdom has been optimistic about Ukraine's defense against Russia, Julia Ioffe, the Founding Partner and Washington correspondent for Puck, isn’t convinced. Joining David and Marc, she explores Ukraine's challenging path to victory, the impact of US aid on the conflict's trajectory, and more. Don't miss it.



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Published 2023-09-17

From the Silo: Freight and Foreign Policy

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Original Air Date: September 16. 2022

On this week's episode, Norm and Kavita talk about Biden's successful handling of the potential train workers strike and the intersection for foreign and domestic policy. For members, Kavita and Norm talk about the Fetterman-Oz race and a Washington Post Editorial about Fetterman's health.

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Original Air Date: August 16, 2022

Mar-a-Lago was searched for classified national security documents. David Rothkopf discusses the implications of this for our national security with Ed Luce of the Financial Times, Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University, and Joe Cirincione. Is this just another nothingburger? Will America come apart at the seams? How much of a threat is the GOP to America's national security? Find out in this thoughtful conversation. Don't miss it.

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It is no secret that the media remains hyper-focused on Joe Biden’s age and the growing desire for a younger generation of politicians. As the election cycle continues to ramp up, Norm and Kavita break down how the conversation around Joe Biden and Kamala Harris will make waves in 2024.

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Oppenheimer’s success has pushed nuclear weapons back into the public consciousness. Experts Alex Wellerstein and Heather Williams join David and Jon Wolfsthal to assess the movie's accuracy and merit's through the lens of nuclear policy, and whether the general public's decreasing worry of nuclear conflict is justified. 

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