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In a far reaching and incisive conversation with Michael Morell, host of CBS News "Intelligence Matters" podcast and former Acting Director of Central Intelligence and Deputy Director of the CIA from 2010-2013, we discuss a world situation that in his view presents more challenges than any we have faced since World War II. However great the threats confronting us may be, they are however, compounded by problems we face at home: tension between the White House and the Intelligence Community, a political choice not to prepare for coming interference in our 2020 elections, a desire to minimize extremist threats overseas and policy choices that have exacerbated global unease. Further, our leaders and our next generation policymakers are ill-prepared to understand or deal with the emerging technologies that are remaking war, espionage, and international relations. This is an episode you won't want to miss.

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The collusion hits just keep on coming on Deep State Radio. We don't just have the 2016 oldies that made the Mueller Report so great (or so long, anyway), we've got the on-going collusion between the Trump Administration and Russian disinformation warriors (special shout out here to Attorney General Bill Barr) and that between Mitch McConnell and The Obstructors and their pals back in the land of borscht and bribes. And all that's to say nothing of what is sure to come as we approach the 2020 campaign. We've got it all plus: How America Could Screw Up the Next Election. With Ryan Goodman of Just Security and NYU Law School and Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University Law Center, this is just the end of summer podcast you've been looking for!

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David Sanger of the New York Times brings us up to date on the latest from the Russian nuclear program--which means catastrophes near the arctic circle with ramifications that extend around the globe. Kori Schake of IISS and Evelyn Farkas of the German Marshall Fund join to discuss what all this means for US strategic policy, nuclear strategy and...well, yes, here we go again, Greenland. It always comes back to Greenland. Don't miss this timely and lively discussion. 

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In an obvious attempt to infuriate Puerto Rican statehood advocates, Donald Trump wants to buy Greenland. And if a few thousand Republicans would move up there (as they no doubt would to mine and drill the hell out of its every beautiful nook and cranny) then he would no doubt welcome it as a state. Come to think of it, if we can designate which Republicans move there, maybe everyone can get behind this idea. We discuss this surprising foreign policy gambit plus other slightly more serious ones--like China, Hong Kong and the collapse of the UK into teeny tiny pieces with Kori Schake of IISS and Ed Luce of the FT. Tune in.

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The day after Donald Trump leaves office in January 2021 (as we'll assume for the sake of argument and/or sanity that he does), what happens to America's relations with the world? What snaps back to the way it was in the past? What does not? Where has irreparable damage been done? Where are quick fixes possible? And where might there be meaningful differences between different potential candidates to succeed Trump? We discuss all these with leading Democratic foreign policy strategist and thinker Jake Sullivan, formerly the top policy advisor to the Clinton campaign and a senior official in the White House and the State Department during the Obama years. Tune in for this important glimpse into a world that may only be 18 months away.

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General James Clapper was both the Director of National Intelligence and the Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, one of the most distinguished intelligence leaders of the past several decades. We discuss with him where the Russia investigation is post-Mueller, the challenges for the intelligence community in the face of leadership upheaval and the risks associated with the upcoming election and his belief that it won't be just Russia interfering in our democracy next year. Tune in for this important conversation.

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On this episode of Deep State Radio Kori Schake of IISS and Ed Luce of the Financial Times join host David Rothkopf to discuss the state of global crises from North Korea to Hong Kong, Kashmir to the Persian Gulf, global warming to Brexit and well, it's a good thing it's summer and sunny outside or things could have gotten pretty depressing. Still, they focus on solutions and what an engaged U.S. president could do to help improve matters. Yes, yes, we know, that raises other questions. But it's summer, so let's stay optimistic, shall we? Tune in.

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On this special edition of Deep State Radio live, we have an in-depth one-on-one conversation with Barbara McQuade, former U.S. Attorney and 

frequent commentator on legal developments on MSNBC. As one of America's foremost legal experts on matters pertaining to combating violent extremism, Barbara offers vital insights into where our system comes up short in giving law enforcement the tools it needs to combat home-grown extremists. She also offers essential commentary on the current state of the impeachment inquiry and related legal battles. in addition, we spend time with TRG Media president Chris Cotnoir as he explains the results of a fascinating listener survey we have just completed among the Deep State audience. Chris explains why all of you are so special and your relationship with DSR is even more unusual than you may think. Tune in.

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America is reeling from two more mass shootings. White nationalism and our gun pathology have combined with the encouragement of the White House to create tragedy upon tragedy and deeper divisions within our society. But the cost of the White House's combination of malevolence and ignorance is every bit as great overseas and even as America was mourning the shootings the world grew materially more dangerous. Over the past few days we have seen Chinese troops mass on the Hong Kong border, Greenland melt and the Amazon be laid waste by environmental rapists, the end of one of Regan's signature arms treaties and escalating nuclear risks in India, Pakistan, Iran and North Korea, more bloodshed in Syria, more political chaos in the UK, deepening market fears of trade and currency wars...and Trump's errors, ignorance and dark impulses have fed each and every one of these. And given his message to the world that now is the best time to be your worst self because the US, once a moral leader, will do nothing...it may even reward you...promises greater crises to come. We discuss with Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law School, Joe Cirincione of the Plowshare Fund and Evelyn Farkas of the German Marshall Fund. Tune in.

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Now that a majority of Democrats in the House of Representatives support an impeachment inquiry and the House has argued in court that such an inquiry is already under way, the question becomes where does it lead? How do you frame impeachment articles that best hold the president accountable for his crimes and how do you ensure that with or without a vote on impeachment, the inquiry does the most good for the country. Also: What happens after Trump leaves office? Should he be prosecuted or not? Former US Attorney and regular MSNBC commentator Joyce Vance and NYU Law School Professor Ryan Goodman, co-editor of "Just Security" join us for a very important discussion on one of the biggest issues of our time. Tune in.

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On this edition of National Security Magazine we have an in-depth discussion with former Acting CIA Director John McLaughlin about the president's proposed leadership change at the top of the US intelligence community and the risks that may be associated with it. McLaughlin, one of the most respected career intelligence officers of the past several decades, discusses his concerns and also his great confidence in the professionals of the countries intelligence and law enforcement agencies. A must listen.

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Dan Coats was not a perfect Director of National Intelligence, but he was a good one, a truth-teller in an administration of slavering sycophants. He will be missed, especially since his replacement is another sycophant of the mouth-frothing variety and someone who will become a key part of a new Praetorian Guard surrounding Trump. Like Barr and McConnell he will place Trump and the GOP above national security at a moment of serious threats. It's not good. We discuss with our original Fab Four of experts Rosa Brooks, Kori Schake, Ed Luce and David Sanger. Which of the four is John, Paul, George or Ringo? Tune in as we discuss and we also consider the rise in Trumpism worldwide, stirrings of people power movements and a summer that reminds us just how severe the climate crisis is.

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Ambassador Bill Burns is one of the most distinguished US diplomats of the past 50 years. In a wide ranging conversation based upon his great memoir "The Back Channel" he discusses the evolution (or devolution) of US foreign policy from Reagan to Trump and some of the biggest issues we face today. It is essential listening for anyone interested in global affairs.

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In this special discussion in the wake of Robert Mueller's testimony on Capitol Hill, Greg Sargent of the Washington Post, Ryan Goodman of Just Security and Rosa Brooks of NYU Law School discuss just where we are in terms of the national security threat underlying the Trump-Russia investigation. They discuss whether the momentum for impeachment has disappeared and what options may still exist to hold Trump accountable and stop election interference in the future. A must listen episode of DSR. Join us.

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According to Jonathan Greenblatt, National Director and CEO of the Anti-Defamation League, this is a particular fraught moment in the long history of the politics of race and history in America and around the world. We talk to Greenblatt in a special, thought-provoking, wide-ranging interview that touches upon the President's attacks on the members of "The Squad," the perversity of turning accusations of anti-semitism into a racist cudgel, the institutionalization of hate in America and the global rise of ethnographies-nationalism. It is one of the most disturbing trends of our era and you should not miss this essential discussion of why we are here and where we are headed.

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As the great foreign policy scholar Dean Wormer of Faber College once said, "Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son." It's also no way to run a foreign policy. In fact, you don't even have to be fat or drunk for stupid to screw up a policy. This week has seen some really extraordinary cluelessness from the man who says his gut can steer US international affairs. And we discuss where it all might lead with Edward Luce of the Financial Times, Evelyn Farkas of the German Marshall Fund and Brian Klaas of University College, London. You could miss it. But then you wouldn't know what is about to go terrible wrong(er).

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Remember the scene in "Mean Girls" where Cady breaks the prom queen tiara into piece for everyone? Well, that's what we do here as we celebrate 200 podcasts with a look at the world during the two year's since the launch of Deep State Radio and then consider where we might go over the next 200 episodes. It's an episode you should not miss (but bring your own box wine, you'll need it.). With Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University, Kori Schake of IISS, Christine Wormuth of the Rand Corporation, Evelyn Farkas of the German Marshall Fund and Ed Luce of the Financial Times. Tune in!

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It's not our fault. The month before DSR started Comey got fired, Mueller got hired, and we were off to the races with the Greatest Witch Hunt in History. Many witches later...and 200 podcasts later...we look back to ask: What has changed the most in America since we launched? Join Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law Center, Kori Schake of IISS, Christine Wormuth of the Rand Corporation and Ed Luce of the financial times for a special episode that makes up in sharp insights what it lacks in confetti and popping champagne corks!

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As part of our celebration of 200th episode, we had a special conversation with Lawrence O'Donnell, host of MSNBC's "The Last Word" and one of the keenest, most candid observers of Washington anywhere. We discuss with him how this moment is different from all others, the critical mistakes we may be making and why nonetheless, there may be reason for hope. Following that we then turn to former U.S. Attorney Harry Litman for a discussion of what to expect from next week's Mueller hearings and beyond. You won't want to miss either conversation. Join us...and then join next week for a 200th Episode special with the folks who got us here, our beloved regulars.

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When the special relationship starts coming apart at the seams because of an unfortunate outbreak of stating the obvious, who you gonna call? Ivanka! From the DMZ to world leader photo ops to Brexit, America's crown princess is at the helm. And if she's not available, her second in command, Jared, is always standing by. So, have a nice time at the beach folks. What could go wrong? Our friendly deep staters David Sanger of the New York Times, Kori Schake of IISS and Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law all discuss and consider a couple of the areas--take Iran for example--where just maybe there still is something to worry about. Also: go US Women's National Team! And why does Kori have minstrels outside her window in Siena? All this and more in the latest podisode. Tune in!

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Yes, our Constitution is not exactly working as planned. Yes, checks and balances are not checking or balancing. Yes, the president and his family are behaving like royals on the world stage. Yes, this July 4th might be seen to celebrate not the revolution to break away from one mad king but the ascension of another. But surely there are things to celebrate about America today, right? Ed Luce of the Financial Times, Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law Center and Evelyn Farkas of the German Marshall Fund discuss...and give you plenty to celebrate this holiday weekend. Tune in. And be patient. The good stuff starts right after we list all the things we have to worry about. Whoopee! Happy Fourth everybody!

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President Trump became the first American president to enter North Korea. That's the good news. He also seems to be heading for a deal with North Korea that may freeze their nuclear arsenal at 20-60 warheads. That's not so good. It's not good because we will then reward Kim Jong Un for building that arsenal by lifting sanctions, we will get only nominal gains, like the shutdown of perhaps one aging nuclear facility, and because well...it's a deal with a country that has broken its last two nuclear deals with us. The Iranians are watching eagerly thinking, "We want one of those deals." So...maybe let's hold off on the celebrations of a breakthrough for a bit. David Sanger of the New York Times, Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law Center and Evelyn Farkas of the German Marshall Fund discuss in an important, scary episode. Tune in!

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So, there was this war with Iran, remember? Then there wasn't. Then there were cyberattacks. But what did they do? And were they legal? And why did we do them? And isn't all this making another war in the Middle East more likely--whether Trump wants it or not? We start our conversation on this issues with a first-rate panel featuring Sharon Weinberger of Yahoo News, Ed Luce of the FT, David Sanger of the NY Times and Ryan Goodman of Just Security. And from there it's off to the Dem debates, the misunderstood nature of "red" states and how the Supreme Court of the United States may just have delivered a real blow to democracy. You don't want to miss this stellar episode of Deep State Radio.

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From one perspective, this is not a particularly auspicious moment for women at the top ranks of the US government. There are fewer women in leadership roles in the Trump Administration and then, of course, there's the fact the president has been credibly accused of being a rapist. More than once. That said, there are also some very promising signs and one of the most exciting is a new initiative to ensure gender parity at the highest levels of our national security leadership in the next administration. It is called LCWINS and it has caught on with 15 campaigns already and we discuss why with three leaders of the initiative--our own Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University, Beverly Kirk of CSIS and our old friend Julie Smith, currently in residence at the Bosch Academy in Berlin. It's a great and timely discussion of an important issue. Please join us.

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There's a lot we don't know about cyberwar. But that doesn't mean we can stop progress from happening while we figure it out. So, Russia attacks us, we attack back, escalation occurs and who knows, our officials may or may not tell the president because, you know, his fondness for Russia and his problems with polysyllabic words and so forth. That could be a problem, no? We discuss with Kori Schake of IISS, Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University Law Center and Evelyn Farkas of the German Marshall Fund...and believe us, you won't come away from this feeling all warm and comfy about where we are. Tune in.

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It is conventional wisdom that Americans want nothing to do with the world save for cheap imports and K-Pop music. Even New York Times columnists say so. But, the reality is far different. In fact, polling suggests the opposite is true. America's welcome foreign engagement and support our allies and alliances. We discuss what's true and what this may mean in the 2020 elections with Ivo Daalder, President of the Chicago Council on Global Affairs, Kori Schake of IISS, Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law Center and Evelyn Farkas of the German Marshall Fund. Take that conventional wisdom! 

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In 1780 John Adams wrote "For as in absolute governments the King is law, so in free countries the law ought to be king; and there ought to be no other." It was in the Massachusetts Constitution that he was trying to enshrine the idea that the new U.S. would be "a nation of laws not men." It was a nice idea while it lasted. This week, as we discuss with Ben Wittes of Lawfare, Ryan Goodman of Just Security and Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law Center, that idea met a handful of new challenges that may amount to some of the toughest it has ever faced in the U.S. Now what? We discuss that--and the use of force in Iran--with our brilliant, engaging, insightful guests. Join us. 

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Anna Fifield, Beijing Bureau Chief of the Washington Post, has written an extraordinary new book providing never before available insights into North Korea's leader Kim Jong Un. Deep State Radio regular's Kori Schake of IISS and David Sanger of the New York Times, join Anna for a discussion of the book, of Kim, of the current fragile state of U.S.-N.K. relations (and why a deal may yet happen before election day 2020). We also look at the fraught U.S.-China relationship and why tensions in the South China Sea might not be the most contentious flashpoint the two countries face. Tune in!

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Impeachment has become a charged word in our national political debate. But the framers of our Constitution saw it as an essential tool in protecting the integrity of our government and the interests of the American people. Professor Lawrence Tribe, of Harvard Law School, is one of the country's leading constitutional scholars and he has recently written of a path forward the House of Representatives can follow that does not hold them hostage to the partisanship of the U.S. Senate. He draws on history and the Constitution itself to explain why undertaking such hearing now is essential and why the costs of failing to do so will be very high indeed. It's essential listening. Join us.

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The disinformation war of the President, AG Barr and their associates is unlike any we have ever seen in US history...and this is a country that knows a thing or two about bullshit. But not only is the Team Trump effort more sweeping, but thanks to Barr, the administration is now trying to translate their alternative reality into an institutional outcome, blunting the efforts of the Congress to do oversight by simply arguing that they don't have authority or what they seek is irrelevant or that they are investigating the wrong crimes. It has stifled investigation for half a year and looks like it may largely negate Democratic efforts altogether. To figure out what the remedy might be, we have to understand the underlying issues and that's what we discuss with guests Greg Sargent of the Washington Post and Ryan Goodman of Just Security and NYU Law School. It's a powerful, thought-provoking and disturbing discussion. Don't miss it.

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With his new book, "China's New Red Guard: The Return of Radicalism and the Rebirth of Mao Zedong" author Jude Blanchette describes vividly a shift in the politics of China that has profound implications for that country and the world. In this episode, he discusses the book and with Rosa Brooks and Evelyn Farkas discusses China's changing role in the world, it's new assertiveness, and where we are likely to be headed from here. Join us for a vitally important discussion of the central issue in geopolitics today.

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Much as the barrage balloons that used to float above London during the blitz were ominous reminders of dire impending threats, so too does the large inflatable Baby Trump that floats over London when the American president visits convey a foreboding message. Trump's trip, despite the pomp offered up by the Royal Family, has come with protests and much the same is expected when he arrives in Ireland and later this week in Europe. Does it suggest a deep or permanent rift in the trans-Atlantic relationship or something more temporary? Our regulars Rosa Brooks, David Sanger, Ed Luce and Evelyn Farkas discuss these and other big international issues of the week in a podcast that was lively but milkshake attack free. Join us!

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Nada Bakos was a CIA targeter during the height of the War on Terror. She has just completed a compelling new book on her experiences on the ground in the Middle East, at the Agency and coping with the White House and other political leaders in Washington. It is not only a great read but it offers valuable insights that are relevant today re: Iran, terrorism, and how we view intelligence in the wake of Russia's attack on our democracy and the President's regular attacks on the intelligence community. Join host David Rothkopf, Ryan Goodman of NYU Law School and "Just Security" and Nada Bakos for an urgent, compelling discussion. 

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From the potential for abuse associated with indictments like those handed down in the case of Julian Assange to the potential for abuse in not handing down such indictments, from the president's continued bullying of his adversaries and those who might testify against him to the ever-growing list of court cases involving Donald Trump and his team, our system is being tested as never before. But there are some glimmers of hope such as signs the judiciary will stand up to the White House's assault on the rule of law and growing sentiment that further steps must be taken to hold Trump accountable. On this episode of DSR Live, our guests, Ryan Goodman of Just Security and NYU Law School and former prosecutor Mimi Rocah, a regular MSNBC commentator, discuss the good, the bad and the ugly of America's simmering political and legal crisis. Tune in for an in-depth discussion that could not be more timely.

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Deep Staters love to...drink box wine. But sometimes, when they are sober, they also love to read. Sometimes they read when they're drunk, too. But what do they read? And does it help? On this, our annual and much beloved summer reading episode we answer the questions about what you should be reading and who you should be avoiding at all costs. It'll make your summer worthwhile and it'll make you smarter. Don't miss the great perspectives of the extremely literate Kori Schake, Rosa Brooks, Evelyn Farkas and Ed Luce. Join us!

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Nigel Farage, who got one, certainly does? But who else does? Who might deserve a pumpkin pie? And, while we're at it, do you think that will stop the spread of right wing nuts like Farage? The news suggests no. So what's to be done? And...what about the other horrifying things that are going on around the world--wars, near-wars, unending-wars, trade wars? We discuss it all with a classic Deep State Radio line-up: Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law Center, Kori Schake of IISS, Ed Luce of the FT and Evelyn Farkas of the German Marshall Fund. Tune in!

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Trump talks tough. But like most bullies, he shies away from any real fight. The problem is talking tough increases tensions and that raises the risk of accidental war (made more possible by the fact our National Security Advisor is a pyromaniac with a box of matches). But scary as all that is, more dangerous is what is happening at home--both in terms of the GOP war on our democracy, on women, on immigrants and on our every standard of decency and in terms of what has been a pretty sluggish response to it all by the Democrats in the Congress. What's next and why you should always have a basement full of non-perishable treats are what we discuss with DSR regular Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law School and our friends from the Unredacted from DSR podcast, Philippe Reines, Molly Jong-Fast and Emily Brandwin. Tune in!

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As one of our guests on this week's episode, Max Bergmann of the Center for American Progress pointed out, the Trump Administration presents the so-called "Zebra Problem." Zebra's stripes might not appear great camouflage against green or ground plains, but they are a very effective aid in helping individual zebras blend in against the backdrop of the herd, providing good protection against lions. The Trump equivalent is being responsible for so many crimes that they all tend to blur together--which may have the effect of lulling the public to inaction and keeping Trump & Co. from ending up wearing stripes. That said, as Max and our other guest, Joe Cirincione of the Ploughshares Fund point out, another consequence of Trump's serial abuses is that while the Russia case may get the headlines, it may have been the least of the blows they have struck against America and American worldwide leadership. But look more closely and you will see that Trump-Russia touches almost all of Trump's dangerous international policies and our great discussion with these two explains why. Tune in for important perspectives that are seldom offered!

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The Speaker of the House and Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee have declared we are in a Constitutional Crisis. The White House has adopted a policy of "total stonewalling" denying any documents to any House committee to enable mandated oversight. The GOP is playing hardball knowing that whether they delay outcomes or prevent them outright they win. It's a war of attrition and if it gets them to a win in November 2020 it's a huge victory. They're enabling an imperial presidency via a political insurgency and they don't care whether the US or our system are weakened or our enemies empowered...so long as they win. So what's the Democratic Party opposition to do? We discuss with Max Boot of the Council on Foreign Relations and the Washington Post and Ryan Goodman of Just Security. It's a helluva discussion. BYOB. You don't want to miss this one. 

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Where do we start? Trump renews his video bromance with Vladimir Putin and Putin smiles. Then they collude to agree they didn't collude. 800 prosecutors say Trump should be charged with multiple felony counts for obstruction and while they're at it, seem to suggest that Attorney General Bill Barr is a partisan hack. Trump is above the law and there may not be anything we can do about it. Crisis? Yes. But is it a Constitutional Crisis? And who cares? Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law and Evelyn Farkas of the German Marshall Fund to discuss with host, David Rothkopf. Join us!

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It has long been a foundational belief of political smarties everywhere that the average American does not give a hoot about foreign policy. But that, according to a new study from the Center for American Progress, is just not true. Maybe 20 percent don't give a hoot. And about 30 percent are nutty nationalists. But 50 percent are more in the internationalist vein which could have big implications for the 2020 elections. We discuss with CAP's Brian Katulis, Georgetown Law's Rosa Brooks and the German Marshall Fund's Evelyn Farkas. (And while we're at it, we throw in a little Iran, Israel, North Korea and Venezuela for good measure. Tune in!)

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You've seen him in Scandal, Private Practice & Grey's Anatomy..so basically ever single Shonda Rhimes show that you're obsessed with Paul Adelstein has been in. Paul and Emily bonded over their Midwest roots talking theater, politics and everything in between. Paul and Emily hypothetically cast the Trump White House movie and you'll never guess what roles they each would like to play.

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David Sanger of the New York Times joins Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law and Kori Schake of IISS to discuss why the president's top advisors don't want their staffs raising the issue of protecting the US from further Russian attacks on our democracy and what it might mean. Is he a traitor? Is he a moron? Is our government falling apart? Are these mutually exclusive? Tune in to the latest Deep State Radio to find out.

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On this episode, our experts Edward Luce of the Financial Times, Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University Law Center and Kori Schake of IISS reveal the secret and disturbingly advanced plans of Donald Trump to blow the international system that America helped create after World War II. It's farther along than you might think...and scary as can be. Which leads back to the one dominant question that arises while discussing Trump--is he evil or is he just really stupid? Rosa offers a compromise. Tune in to find out what it is.

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It has been a busy week in foreign affairs even if you have been too glued to the Mueller Report, the White House Easter Egg roll and Game of Thrones to pay any attention. Ukraine elected a comedian with no government experience as president and while that was a triumph for democracy, well, now comes the hard part. The US ratcheted up tensions with Iran and we all know where that's going. North Korea tweaked the president with a test of a new weapons system. And...the Democratic presidential race got one candidate with a big foreign policy pedigree. But we must ask, does such a pedigree matter or is something else more important. Tune in to listen to Kori Schake slam home that answer in the midst of quotes from the "Far Side" and Walt Whitman and then to listen the German Marshall Fund's Laura Rosenberger, formerly Hillary Clinton's top foreign policy advisor, offer a perspective on what really matters in a candidate.

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No, the Mueller report was not about exoneration. No, it was not about politics. But one thing it was about at its inception was that the US had been attacked by a foreign enemy and we wanted to find out why. Presumably with the intent of stopping it. So...how come we're not doing that? And how come we're not more outraged that our government seems to think saving their own skin is more important than that, so important that they deem it essential to protect our attackers? We discuss with Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University, Kori Schake of IISS, and Laura Rosenberger of the German Marshall Fund. This is important, don't miss it.

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Sick of the Mueller Report tsunami of news and commentary? Zoning out on tepid hot takes from the usual suspects? Want to know what the Mueller Report really means, what's next, what went wrong, why this isn't the end but the beginning and why Don, Jr.'s trolls are both the dumbest and most dangerous on the Net? Then tune in for this special Deep State Radio Muellerpalooza with an all star line up including Rosa Brooks, Ed Luce, Katie Phang, Molly Jong Fast and Phillipe Reines. It's a rollicking hour about an ever deepening threat to the American way of life. Tune in now! (Or watch on our YouTube Channel.)

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We'll get some of the Mueller Report later this week. Or the Barr version of the Mueller Report. And it is certain to prove the president innocent...or guilty. Hot takes will fly. But as our guests Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law School and Ed Luce of the Financial Times point out, we won't know for days what this version of the report means or what it's missing. So take a nap. Have a walk. Play with your kids. Celebrate Easter or Passover. Enjoy the weekend, you won't miss a thing if you skip Twitter for a few days (provided you listen to our episode). What's more, note our guests, the Mueller Report is probably the least of our problems. So...um...there's also that. Feel better yet? 

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This week on “Washington for Beautiful People,” Emily’s special guest is a chef, entrepreneur, father, teacher, author, television host and the guy who eats all the strange shit….Andrew Zimmern. Andrew and Emily talk politics but dive into a discussion about social activism and surviving major life struggles. They also talk about St. Louis cuisine (yes, it’s good…ignore Bagelgate) and Emily gets shamed but then gets tips on how to perfect her key lime pie (hint, she’s been doing it ALL wrong.)

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The US has designated Iran's Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization, the first time it has done so with a foreign military. Some see this as the ratcheting up of tensions and a prelude to war. Some see it as another gift to the re-election campaign of Bibi Netanyahu. And some, including our experts, see it primarily as more posturing from a blustering bully who doesn't want any real wars on his watch, he just wants to look tough. Kori Schake of IISS, Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University Law School and Evelyn Farkas of the German Marshall Fund discuss and consider where, if anywhere, we might nonetheless bumble into conflict. Tune in.

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