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Russia scored its biggest recent victory in its on-going war against western democracies with the victories of the right wing in the recent Italian election. It ranks right behind the Trump victory and the Brexit vote. But the reality is some of what Russia is doing is winning and some of what is happening is just us losing. We're making mistakes and often, not even making the minimum basic effort to protect ourselves. Our experts, David Sanger, Ed Luce, Rosa Brooks and Bob Hormats, discuss on the latest Deep State Radio. Tune in.

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What's more screwed up in the White House--personnel or policy? There's virtually no senior advisor to the President who hasn't left or been rumored to be on their way out. (With the exception of Trump's Igor, Stephen Miller, who will be flattering his boss and promoting institutionalized racism until the very last day of the administration.) There is almost no policy area where the policy approach has not been ill-considered and contradicted by someone in the administration. Our experts including former Under Secretary of State Bob Hormats, David Sanger of the New York Times, Ed Luce of the Financial Times and Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University discuss the latest developments in both areas--from the departure of Hope Hicks to some really really bad 1920's vintage trade policies. Tune in.

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Max Boot's great new book "The Road Not Taken" about American intelligence officer Edward Lansdale not only offers great insights into an intriguing character and a pivotal moment in American and modern world history, it is searingly relevant to today. Would an expert like Lansdale even be heard today by a disconnected president who is trying to discredit the intelligence community? Would the kind of carefully built expertise he accumulated be valued in a government that doesn't even care to have ambassadors in key outposts worldwide? Max Boot joins Rosa Brooks of Georgetown and Deep State Radio host David Rothkopf for a discussion of the book and why its lessons are so important today.

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It is impossible to prove that Trump role model Tony Montana was actually speaking about former Trump Campaign Chairman Paul Manafort when he said, "this country was built on laundered money" but he might as well have been. And it may be that the money laundered by Manafort ultimately brings him down...and possibly turns the tide against the president and his family. Or perhaps they did their own money laundering. It's too early to tell. But that doesn't stop our experts Susan Hennessey of Lawfare, Max Boot of the Council on Foreign Relations and Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University from trying to figure out where we are in this mess with the latest indictments and maneuverings. Tune in to hear what they have to say

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America's problems extend far beyond Russiagate. In fact, they extend far beyond porn stars and having half the cabinet under investigation, failures in Puerto Rico and near nuclear war with North Korea. They include unprecedented levels of overt corruption in the White House...but perhaps worse for a system that depends on checks and balances, they go further to the fact that no one in Congress seeks to call out or stop that corruption. Or gun violence. Or the war on science. Or financial recklessness. Or any of the other ills that currently plague the U.S. How did we get here? Who's to blame? What's to be done? Tune in to find out. Or at least for therapeutic purposes.

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The Mueller indictment charging 13 Russians for their efforts to illegally influence America's 2016 presidential election rocked Washington and sent shockwaves worldwide. The President of the U.S. tried to frame it as vindication because it did not point to his own personal collusion with the Russians (or that of any other U.S. individual). But...as our experts Evelyn Farkas, Kori Schake and Ed Luce point out...we're just in the early days of this investigation and many more indictments are yet to come. Where will that leave the U.S.-Russia relationship? American standing? Trump? Tune in to find out.

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America has an unrealistic Korea policy (denuclearization) that it is not really pursuing that hard (what with not having an ambassador to South Korea, gutting the State Department and leaving it to Mike Pence who is actually not a human being but a not-so-lifelike cardboard cutout). This might not work out so well, argue our experts like our Kori Schake, Rosa Brooks, David Sanger and Joe Cirincione. We also discuss Syria and Iran. Which also may not turn out so well. So…get a drink, settle in to a comfortable chair, put a pillow over your head to muffle your screams…and join us!

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We’ve had nuclear weapons for more than 70 years. But we have never had a president quite as deranged as Donald Trump before and the result has made more people pay much closer attention to U.S. nuclear weapons policy than they did in recent years. We bring together this week a great panel to discuss the Nuclear Posture Review, Trump and how to save the world including Joe Cirincione, Jeffrey Lewis, David Sanger, Kori Schake and Rosa Brooks. One thought: implant the nuclear code in a kitten and make the president kill the kitten to get it before he can use the nuclear code. Another: Bury the nuclear code in a 10 page long memo and thus rest assured this president will never find it. Tune in!

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The Olympics in Korea have prompted a temporary thaw in North-South relations on the Korean peninsula and plenty of political theater including some from the mummified human remains known to the world as U.S. Vice President Mike Pence. Join our experts, Rosa Brooks of Georgetown, Kori Schake of IISS, Evelyn Farkas of the Atlantic Council and Ed Luce of the Financial Times for a discussion about what a "bloody nose" really means and why if the U.S. economy and markets often much further the world is likely to be a much more dangerous place.Enjoy!

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There's intelligence and then there's basic common sense. Much of the discussion about the recent memo the House released has been lacking in both. Fortunately, however, our experts at Deep State Radio, Georgetown University's Rosa Brooks, IISS' Kori Schake, the Atlantic Council's Evelyn Farkas and the FT's Ed Luce, have plenty of both and on this episode they put the memo in perspective...while also learning how to pronounce basic English vocabulary and learning a few words in New Jersey-ese. Tune in.

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There were so many candidates. And Ed Luce of the Financial Times, Kori Schake of IISS and Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University are keenly aware of some of the biggest dopes on the international stage. But in this first ever awarding of this prestigious prize (which Ed made up on this very episode) we have landed on a great choice…and hopefully established a great new milestone in the history of pointy headwear. Tune in for this and more including a discussion of whether we should be as afraid of the world as Donald Trump would like us all to be.

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Calm down. We don’t mean “Trumpocalypse” as in the end of the world. We mean it in the sense of the end of the Trump presidency. Who knows, with some luck this could be Trump’s last State of the Union. And that would be good on so many levels. For example, as our experts Rosa Brooks, Kori Schake and Ed Luce note, it would save us from having to listen to the inevitable tedious and misleading stories about how the U.S. president has become more presidential and is getting the hang of his job. He’s not. And listening to this episode of Deep State Radio will help you understand why…and why you should be thankful that the State of the Deep State is strong.

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Contrary to what those outside the Deep State may think, the U.S. government has recently undergone an explosion of creativity. Recently we have seen a National Security Strategy, a National Defense Strategy and a Nuclear Posture Review. Some think these are just empty academic exercises. But others, like our guests the Atlantic Council’s Christine Wormuth, Georgetown’s Rosa Brooks and Kori Schake, soon to be of the IISS, see more. They see divisions between senior officials. They see a president who doesn’t know what any of these documents say or mean. And, with a special eye on nukes, they see plenty of good reason to invest now in a used missile silo. Tune in!

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Do you ever get the impression people are laughing at you, America? More so recently? It could just be your imaginations. But in the view of our experts, Ambassador Nick Burns, Rosa Brooks and Kori Schake, the reason is all the actual laughter you are hearing from everywhere in the world. The world’s view of America, as recent polls have shown, is at a low point. The question is whether this is something new, a turning point, or we were always this funny (or flawed). Tune in to this episode of Deep State Radio for answers.

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Among other things, our amazing Rosa Brooks is part of an elite team of hypocrisy specialists who travel the globe in search of hypocrites in government. Recently, she and her fellow hypocrinauts visited Turkey where they found a rich vein to explore...and plenty of Turks who say the Trump Administration has taught them a lot. MAGA. Join us for the latest episode of #DeepStateRadio and then Tweet at us with great show ideas--the five best win great swag each week. With Rosa Brooks, Kori Schake, David Sanger, Edward Luce and host, David Rothkopf.

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While the people of Hawaii were terrified by an errant alert indicating an incoming ballistic missile attack, the rest of the country remained frightened by what would happen even if there were not such an attack. Judging from Donald Trump's plans for nuclear weapons and his temperament, of course, the risk of going without further such scares decreases daily. On this episode of Deep State Radio, Kori Schake, Rosa Brooks, Ed Luce and David Sanger discuss why putting a couple books on your head won't improve your nuclear posture and, of course, shitholes. Lots of discussion of shitholes. Shitholes as far as the eye can see. Join us.

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Mike Pompeo, Director of the CIA and yet oddly, a former Congressman who still seems to be running for something, threw down the gauntlet to the true Deep State when he said that New York Times reporter and Deep State Radio stalwart got it wrong on how the CIA missed the sudden acceleration of North Korea's nuclear program. Tune in to this episode to hear the man known to all as "David You're Exactly Right Sanger" responds. Then join in for a wide ranging discussion of what happens to the world when America crawls into a hole and pretends its not there. Featuring Mr. Sanger, Benjamin Pauker of Vox, Kori Schake en route to England and Evelyn Farkas of the Atlantic Council.

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Late at night in the office of Chief of Staff John Kelly. The phone rings. He picks it up and hears heavy breathing. Then a raspy voice…could it be Bannon…could it be Wolff…says “Have you checked the President?” Kelly lurches forward and grabs a secure line. “Trace the call!” Then, the chilling answer comes back. The call is coming from inside the White House!!! You think that’s a horror story? Then you haven’t been reading the news. Fortunately for you our special Deep State Radio guests have. Join Lawfare’s Susan Hennessey, the NY Times David Sanger, the Atlantic Council’s Evelyn Farkas and our own soon-to-be relocating author-teacher-expert Kori Schake for an exploration through the terrifying underbrush of the past few days on our latest episode.

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Contrary to popular belief, according to quoteinvestigator.com, Sam Goldwyn did not utter the immortal line that is the title of this episode. Nor did physicist Niels Bohr to whom it is also attributed. Instead, the first person to offer it up was Danish pol Karl Kristien Steincke in his immortal work, "Farvel Og Tak", published in 1948. Which serves as a useful reminder that if we can't even get the past right there is no way we are going to guess what's happening next. Nonetheless, that won't stop the intrepid Deep State Radio panel of experts including Kori Schake, Rosa Brooks and David Sanger from trying. Keep them company as they take us through what might happen in the year ahead. And keep the box wine handy. It's not pretty.

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Is it over yet? Can we come out of our basements now? Is the worst year ever over? Well...yes and no. Yes, dear Deep State Radio nerds, you can come out of your basements. It is 2018. But no, the worst may not be over. This week in two special episodes, we look back at the trends and unfinished business of 2017 in order to help us predict the catastrophes, screw-ups and near misses of 2018. Oh, and the good stuff too, if there is any of that. So join Team DSR--Rosa Brooks, Kori Schake and David Sanger--to ring in the new year.

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In David Rothkopf’s absence this week, Rosa Brooks hosts and reminds listeners that the Deep State Radio crew will soon be retreating into the bunker for some holiday eggnog, before resuming in the new year. The Atlantic’s Julia Ioffe argues that Putin is overrated, and the BBC’s Kim Ghattis and Kori Schake argue that the new US National Security Strategy is also overrated (and incoherent). Julia confesses that she has lost all hope, Kori lends her the Tiara of Optimism, and Kim describes Arab schadenfreude over #MeToo.

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With David Rothkopf away circling the globe this week on the Deep State Radio spy plane, Rosa Brooks and Kori Schake are joined by the Atlantic’s Julia Ioffe and the BBC’s Kim Ghattis. Joining in live from Beirut, Kim reveals that not everyone in the Lebanon is obsessed with US foreign policy, because most people are too busy snacking and getting ready for Christmas. Meanwhile, every single UN Security Council member state is snubbing the US over the Jerusalem resolution, and Iran is snickering on the sidelines. The Tiara of Optimism is temporarily lost.

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It's easy to blame the pols. For the pols its easy to blame one another. (Or if you are Roy Moore, who used to be a Senate candidate in the U.S., you can blame the sinners. Or Mitch McConnell. Or Sassy, the horse. Take your pick). But when policies don't match the global situation and policy advisors don't have the courage to stand up to their bosses and countries like America end up with the White House heading one way (toward disaster) and the State Department heading another way (sometimes a different disaster), then who are you going to blame. Is it the nerds? Have the wonks let down America? Have we lost the narrative and our spines at the same time? We ask Hisham Melhem, Kori Schake, David Sanger and Ed Luce. Listen to what they have to say.

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Was the Jerusalem deal a complete scam? Has it torpedoed US influence on the peace process? Was it not even the most important Mideast news of the past few days? Was that really Vladimir Putin's Victory Lap around the Middle East? Hisham Melham, David Sanger, Ed Luce, Kori Schake discuss. Join in!

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In a week marked by a "stunning" announcement about U.S policy toward Jerusalem and more Russia revelations, is the biggest shock of all is that Trump's foreign policy is still so much like that of Barack Obama? Or is that just the policy of the State Department and the Department of Defense while the real difference is the president who is in his own orbit. Tune in to this episode of Deep State Radio with Dr. Evelyn Farkas, Rosa Brooks, and David Sanger to find out.

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As panelist Kori Schake recounts, former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers once noted that if you staff an administration exclusively with "C" people you will get a "D" staff. He never contemplated the situation we find ourselves in today. As we in the Third Sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark contemplate the Flynn plea deal, the statements of Trump's lawyers, the foreign policy pronouncements of Jared Kushner and more events of the past week, we yearn for the days of "D" staff. Rosa Brooks of Georgetown, Kori Schake of Stanford and David Sanger of the New York Times join for a cold hard look at some stone cold losers. Tune in!

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You would think that Deep State Radio would have a special celebration for our 50th podcast. You probably imagined a giant blow out in silo somewhere with confetti and an interpretative reading of the Treaty of Guadeloupe Hidalgo. Well...that happened. But you were invited. You don't have the clearance. Invitations were extended purely on a need-to-party-basis. But if you need a consolation prize...listen to this; With Kori Schake of Stanford (calling in from Rome) and Rosa Brooks of Georgetown and Ed Luce of the Financial Times in our studio in the third sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark...discussing the good old days when Nazis were considered the bad guys. Listen in. Drink up.

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In Sochi, Russia, Iran and Turkey got together to divvy up parts of the Middle East. It was eerily similar to a meeting 780 miles and 72 years earlier...in Yalta, where the allied powers met to discuss the face of post-War Europe. But this time: no USA. America was sidelined...as it has been worldwide since the beginning of this administration. On this episode of Deep State Radio, Kori Schake of Stanford, Rosa Brooks of Georgetown and Ed Luce of the Financial Times discuss the consequences of the U.S. becoming just a spectator with regard to most key issues on the global stage...and who is stepping up to fill the void left by the U.S. Also: as an added bonus...we discuss the royal wedding and Rosa and Ed's experiences with the Queen. Tune in.

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What are Deep State Radio nerds thankful for this Thanksgiving? We poll our experts and we get just the responses you would expect. One said he is thankful we have not had a nuclear war with North Korea...yet. Of course, many said they were grateful for Robert Mueller. And while others mentioned being grateful for all the faceless bureaucrats of the Deep State themselves...almost all of our experts showed a lot of love all our Deep State Radio nerds. Break out the box wine, pop a ear bud into your ear, and covertly listen along instead of having to endure your crackpot relatives around the Thanksgiving table. Happy Thanksgiving from all of us down here in the third sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark to all of you out there living the Twilight Zone reality that has become our daily lives.

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You may think election meddling is as Russian as borscht but it is also as American as apple pie. We have been doing it for years. The question is do new technologies me more of the same or do they suggest entirely new threats, deeper threats that may make democracy harder and harder to protect? And with an eye toward that future we have to ask: what tools do we need to protect ourselves, our institutions and our values? Join us for the latest Deep State Radio in which these issues and others are explored by our panelists Laura Rosenberger, Kori Schake and David Sanger along with host, David Rothkopf.

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With Trump just back from an Asia trip that ran the gamut of outcomes from negligible to awful, the question turns again to what's going on with U.S. foreign policy. Specifically, we take a look at the gutting of the State Department and the president's pronouncement that "l'etat c'est moi." (Was that him or Louis XIV? I always get them confused. Suffice it to say it was someone whose tastes ran toward gold bathroom fixtures.) We go there--with special guest, former Bush Administration Under Secretary of State and distinguished career foreign service officer Ambassador Nicholas Burns, Stanford's Kori Schake and Georgetown's Rosa Brooks. Tune in.

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The President is returning from Asia. He says it was the greatest trip there since Marco Polo. His defenders note that he didn't start screwing up too badly until a few days in. But then again, once he started screwing up...he really went to work flip flopping on trade with China, kissing up to Putin, insulting Kim Jong Un, making nice with the murderer who currently runs the Philippines, insulting the US intelligence community, watching as the nations of the region did TPP without the US and so much more. Our panel of experts, Rosa Brooks of Georgetown, Kori Schake of Stanford and David Sanger of the New York Times discuss...and also take a deep dive into Sanger's recent reporting on the crisis at the National Security Agency. Tune in!

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Robert Mueller is approaching the Trump investigation as one would approach the wrong-doing of a crime family. And why not? Money-laundering, lying to the Feds, and dealing with pretty unsavory characters are par for the course. What is more, the architects of all this are another crime family, that of Vladimir Putin. And some of the other regimes the Trumps like the best also seem to have embraced a style of governance that is more "Sopranos" than it is "Hamilton." Is this new or the norm? And...in a special discussion...we also explore how the abuse of power is especially hurting women in the national security community. Join Rosa Brooks of Georgetown, Susan Hennessey of Lawfare and Brookings, and Ed Luce of the Financial Times for this timely discussion.

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In honor of Trump's visit to Asia, the Deep State Radio gang take a look at the problems that are haunting him back home. Susan Hennessey of Lawfare, Rosa Brooks of Georgetown and Ed Luce of the Financial Times join with host David Rothkopf to explore the implications of the latest revelations of wrong-doing in Team Trump and what we have learned about how Robert Mueller is closing in on the president. We debate what the next steps are likely to be and how the public, the GOP and the world are likely to react. Join us.

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President Trump embarks on a 12 day, five nation trip to Asia at a moment he has never been weaker...and when the stakes are very high. With a perilous situation in North Korea, simmering trade disputes and a newly ascendant and assertive China, the agenda will be full. But will Trump have the ability to act? Will he even be inclined to hold press conferences or will he fear all public questions will circle back to his problems back home? Will the Chinese take advantage of his weak position? Will the Russians? How tempted will he be to stay away? How will his exhaustion and discomfort at long trips away from his bed play into his tendency for out of control responses? Our regulars Rosa Brooks, Kori Schake and David Sanger offer the answer Deep State Radio nerds (and everyone else) needs.

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9 months into his administration, Donald Trump has entered a political crisis unlike any other. With the indictments of his campaign chairman and his deputy and the guilty plea of one of his campaign foreign policy advisors, Trump has not just sustained deep political wounds, he has also begun to see precisely how special counsel Robert Mueller intends to make his case against the president's team. Russia, money, lies and yes, collusion, all seem to be part of the equation. On this episode of Deep State Radio, regulars Kori Schake, Rosa Brooks and David Sanger try to interpret the deeper significance of the Mueller actions. Tune in!

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It seems impossible, but on this episode of Deep State Radio, our indomitable team of Kori Schake of Stanford, Rosa Brooks of Georgetown, Ed Luce of the Financial Times and host, David Rothkopf, of the nearest pizzeria, manage to have an entire conversation without mentioning the president of the Untied States. Well, ok, that's a lie. But he's never really the subject of a conversation that focuses on eternal verities, great literature, big ideas and why the foreign policy community hasn't had one in so long. Tune in, nerds. You'll learn something!

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The current political dust-up over the President's mishandling of expressing his sympathies (or his interpretation of what sympathies would be like if he were capable of healthy human emotions) is revealing a bigger problem in American life. It is very hard to have an honest, open conversation about our military affairs because any critic of the military is immediately deemed buy their opponents to be unpatriotic. On this episode, Kori Schake of Stanford, Rosa Brooks of Georgetown, Ed Luce of the Financial Times, and Deep State Radio host David Rothkopf discuss the controversy and the deeper underlying issues. Do you know why we're in Niger? Tune in.

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In this episode of Deep State Radio, a discussion about the state of the rudderless, visionless Middle East (and America's rudderless, visionless foreign policy) leads Rosa Brooks to frame that the core idea behind modern US foreign policy should be "strategic muddling through." Our panel of Rosa, Kori Schake, MacKenize Eaglen, and host, David Rothkopf, discuss. While all agree its how most of we who reside in the Deep State manage our personal lives, there is disagreement about the implications. Good for China? Good for Russia and Iran? Bad for our Arab allies? Maybe all of the above? Or is it still, as Kori concludes, the best of all times to be an American? Tune in and muddle through with us.

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Is the president leading a nullification of the power of the federal government from within--appointing enemies of departments to head departments and deconstructing the international system America has worked 75 years to build? Is it all part of some philosophical commitment to nihilism? Anarchy? Is it all an accident? Or is it democracy in action, the American electorate getting wanted they wanted...or they deserve? Our panel of Mackenzie Eaglen of AEI, Rosa Brooks of Georgetown and Kori Schake of Stanford...joined by host David Rothkopf, discuss. Animatedly. Join us.

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In a recent interview with Forbes, President Trump said he didn't feel any obligation to honor deals struck by representatives of the United States during past administrations. His track record shows this is one area in which he is not just talk. He withdrew from TPP and the Paris Accords, is renegotiating NAFTA and may blow it up, has speculated at pulling out of a trade deal with South Korea and is going to decertify Iran despite the fact that there are no grounds for it in the nuclear deal with that country, a move that not only. will jeopardize that deal but other negotiations worldwide. What're the consequences of a world that no longer can take the most important player in the international system at its word? Our panel including Kori Schake of Stanford, David Sanger of the New York Times, Ed Luce of the Financial Times and host David Rothkopf of the Washington Post discuss. Join us.

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How did we get here? How did we get to the Secretary of State calling the president a moron and the Republican Head of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee saying he needed adult supervision and had us possibly heading for World War III? Certainly Donald Trump had something to do with it? But what about the rest of us? Despite his whining is the media actually going too easy on him? What about the political establishment? In this episode big time establishment types like Kori Schake of Stanford, David Sanger of the New York Times and Edward Luce of the Financial Times discuss...and make it all clear. Tune in.

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n this episode of Deep State Radio guests Susan Glasser of Politico, Laura Rosenberger of the German Marshall Fund and regulars Kori Schake of Stanford and Rosa Brooks of some deep silo somewhere consider the recent struggles toward self determination in Catalonia, Kurdistan, Scotland...and California. Then they embark on a tour of some of the biggest recent foreign policy headlines including the latest in the Trump Russia scandals and recent revelations of why Paul Manafort might have been so eager to be Donald Trump's campaign manager for free...even though he appeared to really need money at the time. Tune in.

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Is the president playing three-dimensional chess with the world by constantly offering different policies with different tone and apparently different objectives from the rest of his team including his most senior cabinet members? Are we all too limited to understand the giant intellect of this man who sees the universe with a sort of depth and clarity reserved for the Stephen Hawkings and Albert Einsteins of this world? Or is he just nuts? Or is he perhaps nuts and stupid? Or could it be that he is nuts and stupid and incompetent and surrounded by a bunch of insipid enablers? Our great panel including Politico's Susan Glasser, the German Marshall Fund's Laura Rosenberger, Stanford's Kori Schake and Georgetown's Rosa Brooks (and our host, David Rothkopf, columnist for the Washington Post) discuss, debate and shed light into very dark places. Join them.

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In this episode of Deep State Radio we journey from Kurdistan to the ski slopes of Afghanistan, from senior proms in Kabul to Iraq, from Catalonia to China. In short, Tom Ricks, Kori Schake, Rosa Brooks and David Rothkopf look at some of the most complicated foreign policy challenges the world has to offer and dish up solutions and the kind of insights upon which the denizens of the Deep State have come to rely.

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We could say a lot about this episode of Deep State Radio but there is really nothing more that needs to be said beyond the fact that this discussion featuring Pulitzer Prize-winning military historian and author of "Churchill & Orwell: The Fight for Freedom" Tom Ricks, Stanford's Kori Schake, Georgetown's Rosa Brooks, the New York Times' David Sanger and host David Rothkopf, columnist for the Washington Post, is the best discussion of the rapidly deteriorating situation between the U.S. & North Korea that you will hear anywhere. Warning: It is also really really depressing and should only be listened to in the deepest reaches of your silo while drinking copious amounts of box wine. (Yes, things have gotten much worse since our last such discussion...about a week ago.)

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Trump's unguided missile of a UN speech was not the only thing flying around the Deep State this week. On this episode of Deep State Radio, the heart of our line up, Kori Schake of Stanford University, Rosa. Brooks of Georgetown University and host, David Rothkopf, consider the state of the Trump-Russia investigation, the reasons for the presidents appetite for really big, manly military equipment, and lots of other reasons why we like it just fine deep in our silos. Tune in!

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It's UNGA week, the big party for the world's leaders as they come to NYC for the opening of the UN General Assembly. Of course, this year is marked by the fact that it's Donald Trump's first UNGA as president of the United States...and that could be the reason so many of the world's most important leaders are not attending. But plenty of folks will be watching because Trump is, after all, Trump. This week, David Sanger of the New York Times, Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University and Kori Schake of Stanford University discuss what to expect from Trump and the UN meetings with regard to Iran, North Korea, and Nikki Haley's career prospects. Join us!

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It's the one question everyone in the world has on their minds--other than will Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson really run for president in 2020. And that is where will Johnson's predecessor as commander-in-chief, Donald Trump, engage in his first shooting war? North Korea is seen as perhaps the most frightening candidate...but also, according to our experts, it is probably not the most likely. Iran seems far more likely. But what about Venezuela? What about his next meeting with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell? Our intrepid gang of Deep State insiders--Rosa Brooks of Georgetown, Kori Schake of Stanford, and David Sanger of the New York Times (and Harvard) consider our options. Tune in.

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Donald and Melania Trump presided over 9/11 remembrance ceremonies on Monday for the first time as president. Trump seemed awkward and his language was stilted. He does not do compassion well. But Trump is not so far removed from 9/11 as you might think--despite his failure to donate from his charities to its victims or his need to resort to lies to pretend he was close to those victims. No, he and his supporters who promote intolerance toward Muslims are producing precisely the outcome that Bin Laden sought and the fear that helps fuel their anger was exactly what Bin Laden was seeking to generate. On this episode of Deep State. Radio, join Rosa Brooks of Georgetown, Kori Schake of Stanford, Ed Luce of the Financial Times and host David Rothkopf of Union County, New Jersey, in a discussion of how we got where we are, how this resonates with tribalism worldwide, how we can fix it and why Rosa has such a sunny disposition.

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