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While the intelligence and law enforcement communities reel from the president's attacks, Donald Trump has sent further signals that he expects personal loyalty above loyalty to the nation from all of his team across the whole of government. He has even go so far as to trash the once hallowed concept of independence of the Fed. But it may be that the biggest problem affecting the government is not the president's impulse to suppress dissenting views but rather is his lack of intellectual curiosity and his professed skepticism of expertise. It's not that he wants political loyal intelligence analysts, for example, it is that he wouldn't read what they wrote no matter what their political views were. On this episode, veteran CIA analyst Nada Bakos, Georgetown's Rosa Brooks and the Financial Times Ed Luce, discuss--and Rosa follow's in the footsteps of a giant pre-historic chicken!

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Published 2018-08-23

Special Episode: Trumpocalypse Now

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This week in important Steven Tyler news, the Aerosmith front man demanded that Donald Trump stop playing his band's song "Livin' on the Edge" at their rallies. And he makes a good point. Trump is past that point and may want to consider more appropriate alternatives for upcoming rallies, like "I Fought the Law (And the Law Won)" or "Jailhouse Rock." Certainly, that seemed to be the message prosecutors and jurors were sending this week as the Trump re-elect effort lost the votes of both Paul Manafort and Michael Cohen who will now, as convicted felons, never be able to vote in a federal election again. What does this mean? Where will it lead? Is this the beginning of the end? The end of the beginning? What can we expect? Our experts David Sanger of the New York Times, Katie Phang, an attorney and a legal analyst for NBC and MSNBC and Sharon Weinberger, DC Bureau Chief for Yahoo News answer these questions and more in this special limited collector's edition of Deep State Radio in which we also ask: Is Australia the only country in the world whose politics are more screwed up than America's? Tune in!

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As reports have come in of Russia escalating its attacks on American democracy, our President has hopped into action escalating his war against the people who are protecting us from the Russians. Trump has begun a campaign of stripping security clearances from America's most experience national security officials in an effort to punish them for disloyalty. Our experts, Susan Hennessey of Lawfare, Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University Law School and Ed Luce of the Financial Times, discuss which of the effects of this misguided policy will be worse--chilling free expression, alienating the security community, reducing the expertise available to the government or just ushering in more authoritarianism. But don't worry. You don't have to choose. All will be bad. Also: we discuss the president's lawyers and why they may mean he needs more lawyers.

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With great fanfare Donald Trump did the presidential equivalent of stuffing a pair of athletic socks down his pants and announced the new defense spending bill. It was, as might be expected, yuge. Once again we will outspend China by four or five times and Russia by perhaps a dozen times. Are we safer? Does it matter that if we spend that much we can't have the schools, roads and health care system we need? Does it matter that the future of warfare may be a lot cheaper than the old-style industrial military we keep building and rebuilding? Kori Schake, Rosa Brooks and David Sanger discuss and debate. Tune in!

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Nothing is more core to the life of the Deep State than marking documents classified. After all, if just anyone could read them, who'd want to? On the other hand, if documents are classified, they can't be shared which is a bit of a problem in the cyber era when our most important defenses may be in the private sector. What's a secret-loving country to do? The NY Times' David Sanger, Georgetown University's Rosa Brooks and IISS' Kori Schake discuss. (And, yes, they also discuss Omarosa and Peter Strzok and all that other mishigas as well. So tune in for goodness sake!)

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Summer Reading Edition: On this special episode of a podcast so special it doesn't need special episodes but can't help doing them anyway, we delve into the world of books. Georgetown's Rosa Brooks, IISS' Kori Schake and the Financial Times Ed Luce reveal what they're reading, what they're avoiding, why they are academic pariahs, what sucks and what sucks so bad they don't even feel comfortable discussing it. Summer fun!!! Join us.

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Did you know that Ed Luce was once on a cricket team that Imran Khan occasionally would coach during breaks in his high profile high society dating life? That Rosa Brooks briefly played on a cricket team at Oxford? That Kori went to a cricket match and was not bored to tears? Well, you will if you listen to this episode of Deep State Radio which also has the president admitting to a felony, America's Iran policy going from bad to worse and Israel's Nation-State Law giving apartheid a fresh new look for the 21st Century. Tune in!

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Published 2018-08-02

Attack of the Killer Zucchinis

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In which we start with cricket get to Imram Khan, discuss how hunky he was as a young cricketer and how his populism and the nukes he now controls may make him somewhat less attractive. Then on to the expanding realm of hybrid warfare, what it means in Clausewitzian terms, what that may all mean in terms of Metternich and then of inevitably, on to the proliferation of vegetables of mass destruction (VMDs). Rosa Brooks, Kori Schake and Evelyn Farkas join and elucidate. Tune in!

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Published 2018-07-31

What Would Scipio Africanus Think?

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In the latest Deep State Radio our friends Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University, Kori Schake of IISS and Evelyn Farkas of the Atlantic Council offer secrets into how they remain so well-informed. It all turns on fiction, apparently and those who remember what they read last will tell you what it was. Then we turn to Trump, Italy's new prime minister, a whole slew of lies and misstatements from Trump and the gripping prospect of a US-Italy strategic alliance which should come in handy should elephants ever start coming over the Alps again. Oh, and the decline of the West, again. But from a new perspective. What a great accompaniment for a summer barbecue.

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Published 2018-07-26

But Her Emails...

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If only someone had told us that Trump has distrusted alliances and the international order his whole life, that he was close to Russia and Russians, that he was unhinged and wholly unqualified for the presidency! If only we had known! Maybe then we would not be inviting Vladimir Putin to come to the White House to give him a hero's welcome commemorating his successful 2016 election hack...just in time for the 2018 elections which all signs suggest he will try to hack again. If only. Our panel including Laura Rosenberger of the Alliance for Securing Democracy, Loren DeJonge Schulman of the Bombshell podcast, Kori Schake of IISS and Ed Luce of the Financial Times discuss where we are and how we got here. Tune in!

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A lonely old man wandering the White House late at night in his bathrobe, perhaps with a half-eaten McDonald's cheeseburger in his pocket gets angry at the world...so angry that he hits the ALL CAPS button on his cellphone and starts to Tweet out threats at a foreign nation. "ALL CAPS?," says his target, "this means WAR!" That's very nearly where we were this week when Donald Trump lashed out at Iran. Was a clever distraction? A mental misfire? We may never know, but we know this: as long as the president can Tweet, none of us are really safe. Our great panel including Loren DeJonge Schulman of of the Bombshell podcast, Kori Schake of IISS and Ed Luce of the Financial Times discuss this, playing politics with security clearances and the rest of the week's latest developments. Tune in!

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As Richard Nixon might have said, "What are we going to do when we don't have Western Civilization to kick around any more?" Things happen fast in this bad old world and a few years is a enough time for the wheels to come flying off the damn cart. And if you don't get our point, that may have been a wheel that went flying by on Monday in Helsinki. Our panel of IISS' Kori Schake, Georgetown Law School's Rosa Brooks, the Financial Times' Ed Luce and New Jersey's own David Rothkopf, contemplate where we go from here and why recent experiences with bedtime stories are not altogether comforting. Tune in! (While you can.)

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Published 2018-07-16

Putting the Hell Back in Helsinki

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Donald Trump completed the most unsuccessful foreign trip of any president since Theodore Roosevelt, who took the first foreign trip, with a disastrous summit for the ages. Critics on the right and left called it an embarrassment, a disaster, or worse. And honestly, it was all that and more. A turning point in the history of US foreign policy perhaps. Our experts, Georgetown's Rosa Brooks, IISS' Kori Schake, the New York Times' David Sanger, and the Financial Times' Ed Luce, discuss...lament, wail, and generally gnash their teeth...but in constructive way. Listen in!

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Published 2018-07-12

NATO, SCHMATO...Bring on Vlad!

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If, as Sarah Huckabee Sanders alleged, it was a lousy breakfast that had White House Chief of Staff squirm while President Donald Trump kicked off the NATO Summit with an attack on Germany, then someone needs to get a Denny's Grand Slam to Rosa Brooks, Julie Smith and Ed Luce pronto. Because as our great panel looked back on Trump's NATO performance, they certainly did more than just shift uneasily in their chairs and purse their lips. Join them for a discussion of what has already been one of Vladimir Putin's best weeks ever...and where things are as we prepare for the Helsinki love fest that will kick off the week ahead!

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With America's foreign policy savant, our president leaving the country this week it's easy to understand the fireworks and celebrations last week. Now we get to share him with the rest of the world--including our NATO allies, the keepers of our special relationship with England, the patrons of a Trump resort in Scotland (ancestral home of his immigrant mother) and then with the main man in his life, Vladimir Putin. Like US and UK politics at the moment, we can expect it all to be in the language of our own Ed Luce, shambolic, but who knows? It may even be worse than that! Ed, Rosa Brooks, Kori Schake and host David Rothkopf discuss all that...while educating Ed about Moose and Squirrel. Tune in!

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The GOP could win in November and maintain its hold on both houses of Congress. Which Donald Trump would find encouraging. And might lead him to be even more like...himself. And that might lead his base to re-elect him. And we could have six and a half more years of Trump. So...what would that look like? Is there enough box wine in the world to help you get through this? Who knows? It can be an experiment. Join host David Rothkopf, Rosa Brooks, Kori Schake and Joe Cirincione for an episode that is scary as shit. Fun!

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50 years ago the multilateral agreement that kept us all from blowing ourselves to smithereens was signed. And look, we're not smithereens, so that's good, right? On the other hand...North Korea. And Iran. And a president who wants new nukes that are smaller and easier to use. So, there's that. We discuss. You should listen. With Rosa Brooks, Joe Cirincione and Kori Schake. Tune in.

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Published 2018-06-28

Why is Big Brother Smiling?

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At the end of the Cold War, the West triumphantly crowed that it was our open societies and the information revolution that ultimately defeated the USSR. They lost because people deprived of information simply couldn't compete. Now however, as we enter another stage of the information revolution, it may be that we celebrated yet another premature "mission accomplished" moment. It is now possible that in the information-addicted world of today in which everyone is tethered to the Internet, the big winner may be Big Brother. State dominated information systems may be entering their prime and freedom and privacy may be the victims. David Sanger, author of the new book "The Perfect Weapon: War, Sabotage and Fear in the Cyber Age", Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University, Kori Schake of IISS and host, David Rothkopf join the discussion...which also explore recent spasms of ugly authoritarianism in the U.S. Tune in.

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Published 2018-06-26

The Perfect Weapon

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On this special episode of Deep State Radio we get a sneak peak at the latest work of our own David Sanger (who we share with the New York Times and his students at Harvard's Kennedy School). The book, "The Perfect Weapon", is the definitive work on the state of cyberwar told compellingly in the real life stories of the unfolding of a new chapter in the history of global conflict. Join David, Georgetown University's Rosa Brooks and IISS' Kori Schake for a discussion of one of the transformational issues of our time...and why the US is not prepared for the next big attack on our electoral system.

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Published 2018-06-21

If It's Not Treason Then What Is It?

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As Deep State Radio's resident Constitutional scholar (and Associate Dean of Georgetown Law School) Rosa Brooks explains, the legal threshold for designating behavior as treasonous is quite narrow. But as she also points out, it would be up to Congress to define what was unacceptable in an impeachment hearing. As evidence mounts that the Trump campaign was deeply entwined with Russia and the Trump Administration has been taking a straight Kremlin line on everything, we have clearly crossed the "this is not OK" threshold and we may be headed for something much more serious than that. Rosa, Kori Schake, Evelyn Farkas and David Rothkopf discuss this issue and the state of America's alliances with a NATO Summit and a potential meeting in Europe with Vladimir Putin loom in the next several weeks. Tune in.

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Deep State Radio's own Kori Schake wrote an important piece about the current threat to the international order posed by the Trump Administration. In this episode we discuss the article and just exactly how grievous the threat is and how we ought to characterize it. This takes us from John Locke to John Winthrop to Stephen Miller...(and we hope that's the last time you ever see those three names in a sentence together.) Join Kori, Rosa Brooks, Evelyn Farkas and David Rothkopf for the discussion. But bring an adult beverage. It's not an easy discussion to hear.

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The president salutes a North Korean general while praising that countries murderous leader. Babies are torn from their mother's breasts by our border police and children are housed in concentration camps. Loyalty lists are being compiled within the State Department. Our allies are turning away from us, alienated. Trade wars loom. Foreign attacks on our democracy are ignored. The president and his family are sued for wrong-doing by their non-profit. Investigations continue. New stories pile up so quickly we can barely consumed them before another lands. We are in uncharted and terrifying waters and Ambassador Nick Burns, Julia Ioffe, Ed Luce and host David Rothkopf get together to try to make sense of it on the latest Deep State Radio. Join us!

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Published 2018-06-12

Is America No Longer the Good Guy?

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The U.S. has done plenty wrong in its history. There are millions around the world that have been victims of flaws in U.S. foreign policy. But since the early part of the 20th Century there has at least been a myth that Americans could cling to that we stood for what was right, for "the American way" and tried to shape the international system around those values. Now, in a week, the U.S. has attacked its allies and friends and embraced one of the world's most brutal dictators. Our president seems to be an amoral and corrupt man. And the result may translate into the undoing both of our standing and the international order that has helped uphold it. Our panelists Rosa Brooks of Georgetown, Mieke Eoyang of the Third Way and Ed Luce of the Financial Times discuss how the tectonic events of the G7 and Singapore summits may impact how America is perceived...and how the world works...for many years to come. Tune in.

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The recent round of primary elections in the US don't seem to show a groundswell of public indignation over the fact that the president of the United States has obstructed justice, is a pathological liar, is profoundly corrupt and is, at the very least, surrounded by people and family members who may well have conspired with the Russians to tip the scales in the last election. So, that's a bummer. But if that weren't enough, the president is now playing the North Korea nuclear summit not for its arms control or geopolitical value but as a card in helping to stave off a Democratic victory in November. That's important to know, observe our experts, because...well, it means all the traditional foreign policy analysis you may hear will be completely irrelevant. Sam Vinograd, Asha Rangappa, Rosa Brooks, Kori Schake and David Sanger join to discuss this, Dennis Rodman, Seb Gorka and why Rudy Giuliani is driving Asha to drink and may offer Trump an inadequate counsel defense in the long run. It's a special 101st episode for DSR, join us!

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On this, the historic, 100th episode of Deep State Radio (once called by Bridget Jones "the world's most important podcast") our usual band of troublemakers discuss just how much worse off the world is 100 podcasts later than it was we started. Could it all have to do with the man one NPR commentator referred to as "an escaped monkey from a cocaine study?" Which English monarch is most reminiscent of that monkey? (Ethelred the Cokehead?) And what can we expect 100 episodes from now? (The end of the euro? War with Iran? A Trump casino in Pyongyang? President Nancy Pelosi?) We not only answer all your questions but we announce a whole lot of ways we intend to show our love for Deep State Radio nerd nation...because we can't think of any other group of folks we'd rather spend the End Days with! Tune in!

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Published 2018-05-31

How Do You Milk a Cockroach?

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Yes, this episode is about the rise of China and America's woeful unpreparedness for this epoch making event. But when guest Anna Fifield, Tokyo Bureau Chief of the Washington Post, sees a cockroach crawling through her Tokyo apartment during the broadcast, important lessons are learned. Tune in for the fun as Anna exits to another room and continues discussing the future of Asia and the world with Ed Luce of the FT, Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University and host David Rothkopf, who is himself somewhere in Asia at the moment.

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Their courtship will go down in history with those of Romeo & Juliet, Tristan & Isolde, and Goldman and Sachs. Donald Trump and Kim Jong Un have had their spats to be sure...but what's a little pre-nuclear foreplay between true loves. Now, all that is behind them it seems and we are heading for the steamy consummation of their relationship somewhere in Singapore...possibly, fittingly, in a a Sheldon Adelson-owned hotel room. If only Shakespeare were alive today to offer up a sonnet, something to honor both of them. Maybe something like Sonnet 29. You know the one: "When in disgrace with fortune and men's eyes..." But don't despair. Who needs Shakespeare when you have Ed Luce, Rosa Brooks and Anna Fifield of the Washington Post. Tune in!

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The president's wife carries industrial strength disinfecting wipes wherever she goes because her man is a germaphobe. But when it comes to the growing ebola outbreak in Africa, he seems anything but prepared. (Pro tip for POTUS: The wipes won't help.). In fact, when it comes to the big crises that might come from left field--epidemics, climate crises, cyber attacks, and the like, Trump's America is even more unprepared than we usually are. Which is why Rosa Brooks, Kori Schake, Bonnie Jenkins and David Rothkopf end up discussing why it may be that in this day in age, we need bigger, better emotional support animals. Like hippos. Or maybe a dinosaur would be good. And our silo accepts service animals. So...come on down.

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One thing about the tough guys in the Trump Administration, when it comes to foreign policy they sure do have colorful fantasies. Mike Pompeo's wish list for Iran is as far fetched as a fairy-tale but less likely to come to life. In North Korea, the president's hopes and dreams are just as impossible. But some of his advisors have imaginations that run to the dark side and are served by the president having wishes that will go unfulfilled. Which is why these fantasies might have an unhappy ending. Rosa Brooks of Georgetown, Kori Schake of IISS, and Bonnie Jenkins of WCAPS and Brookings join host David Rothkopf for a walk through the wonderland of Trump foreign policy. Tune in.

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So much for the Nobel Peace Prize. So much for the celebration in Jerusalem. So much for teaching those Iranians a lesson. So much for witch hunts. So much for so much that our heads are spinning...much like this crazy world we all live on. On this episode of Deep State Radio Kori Schake, Rosa Brooks, Evelyn Farkas and Dan Benjamin discuss it all...and we have to be honest with you, the results aren't that uplifting. The president of the US is a pig. He is being played big time by a tubby millennial dictator who really may be the master of the art of the deal. The U.S. Constitution ain't what it's cracked up to be. And the NRA aren't just a murder lobby, they may be traitors too. Hope you're having a nice Spring everybody! Tune in.

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With boatloads of trouble at home and a Congress unlikely to actually do anything between now and the election, Donald Trump needs to come up with some way to distract from the Mueller investigation and his deepening legal woes. Live Tweeting Fox & Friends is obviously not doing the trick nor is The Rudy Show. So why not blow up the Iran deal, open an embassy in Jerusalem and negotiate a nuclear deal with a guy who blew up his uncle with an anti-aircraft gun as an alternative? What could go wrong--after all Javanka can handle Israel and John Bolton and Mike Pompeo can do the rest? Our panel of David Sanger, Daniel Benjamin and Rosa Brooks discuss...and then head for the silos to wait it out until Trump decides to go back to beauty contests or something safer.

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The president lies. He lies all the time. He can't help but lie. That's why his lawyers consider any move by Robert Mueller to be a perjury trap for Trump. Because any question Mueller and his team will ask is certain to produce over-heated prevarication, deception, and deception presented on a bed of utter bullshit. What does this mean for America? For our democracy? For our standing in the world? Kori Schake, Rosa Brooks, Ed Luce and host David Rothkopf try to answer that question. Through their tears. Tune in!

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It's a mad whirl these days with more mad than whirl going on. This week alone offers everything from the Iran deal (the one new NRA president Ollie North did back in the day) to the Iran deal (the one Donald Trump hates). It offers a debate about the use of torture (re: the Gina Haspel confirmation hearings) as well as a debate about the use of torture (having to watch Rudy Giuliani on television 24-7 as he dissolves into a mental pudding.) Rosa Brooks, Kori Schake, Mieke Eoyang and Ed Luce discuss and offer lots of insights. (Including, of course, Ed offering up the correct pronunciation of the word Lieutenant. Or so he says.). Tune in!

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How are we supposed to concentrate on nuclear weapons dramas in the Middle East and the Koreas, new U.S. special forces deployments, Bibi Netanyahu doing his best Gallagher prop-comedy impression and all the other lunacy going on in the world with all the even more distracting lunacy going on in Washington? Can a strong mastery of acronyms help? Or is beer a better choice? Ploughshares Fund’s Joe Cirincione, Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University Law School and David Rothkopf go a little off the rails trying to figure out how to cope. The best answer they came up with is to look at the whole Trump presidency as a historical belch. (Look away and pretend it didn’t happen.) Tune in!

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Move are afoot--everywhere. In the Koreas, North and South are posturing pre-negotiations while back in the U.S. the president is writing his Nobel Prize acceptance speech. In the Middle East, Israel is working with the U.S. (and maybe the Saudis) to try to find a way to torpedo the Iran nuclear deal...and the Europeans are pushing hard in the other direction. Somewhere between the two U.S. policy masterminds (one with a bushy mustache) are trying to figure out how to blow up one nuclear deal while striking another (so the president can start packing or his trip to Oslo to pick up his hardware). Who is guiding these processes? Could it be Sarah Huckabee Sanders through her mascara laden tears? We discuss on this episode of Deep State Radio with David Sanger of the New York Times, Ed Luce of the Financial Times, Kori Schake of IISS and host, David Rothkopf, lost in New Jersey.

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Published 2018-04-26

A EURONERD FEAST

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Not since Chevy Chase's European Vacation has an American brought so much mayhem to U.S. Trans-Atlantic Relations. Perhaps new Secretary of State Mike Pompeo can start to make amends on his first trip as America's chief diplomat. But if the recent visit of French President Macron is any indication, it seems unlikely. For all the diplomatic foreplay between the two leaders, Macron achieved none of his goals...and the outlook for German Chancellor Merkel's trip is worse if anything. And don't even get us started on what's likely to happen when Trump visits the U.K. in a couple months. Rosa Brooks, Kori Schake, Julie Smith and Evelyn Farkas discuss...and throw in a few words on Kim Jong Un, Ric Grenell and Bill Cosby as well. (Hint: Kim comes out best.)

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Published 2018-04-24

He's a Nixer, Not a Fixer

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With John Bolton loose in the West Wing, what will happen to US foreign policy? Deep State Radio's Rosa Brooks hosts in David Rothkopf's absence, joined by regulars Kori Schake of the International Institute for Strategic Studies and Ed Luce from the Financial Times, with a special guest appearance by Stanford University's Colin Kahl. Colin assures DSR listeners that Bolton's a nixer, not a fixer, and suggests we kiss the Iran nuclear deal goodbye. Ed and Kori wonder if there's any such thing as a Trump Whisperer, and contemplate the likely (non)-impact of French President Macron's visit to Washington. Rosa provides prophecies of doom and suggests that Trump's election was all Ed's fault. In this episode of Deep State Radio, the Ministry of Snark team covers the terrain from Mike Pompeo and Gina Haspel to prospects for progress on North Korea. Tune in!

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Published 2018-04-19

The "Stormy" Kim Illusion

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When Donald Trump thinks about Kim Jong Un he sees Stormy Daniels. At least he sees what he saw that night long ago with Ms. Daniels, which is something that he wanted very very much, that he needed to the exclusion of everything else. He yearns for what Kim and Kim alone can give him. And that is a taste of historical redemption, something that might change the narrative that even Trump can see is being written about him being the most corrupt and inept president in American history. Which could lead to the master of the art of the deal getting taken in a negotiation. Will it happen? Will the mustachioed man at the president's side allow it? We discuss this and the other usual mayhem with Rosa Brooks, Ed Luce and Sam Vinograd on this podisode. Join us!

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The Syria strike was likely highly ineffective due to the fact that it was limited in impact, came without a long-term strategy or much likelihood of follow-up actions to end the use of chemical weapons or the wholesale slaughter of Syrians. But wait, it gets worse: It was also an illegal strike by almost every measure. But hey, that's not a bug it's a feature of the Trump approach to the presidency and life. He's one of those people who sees the law as something only little people must deal with. We discuss what that means for him, U.S. foreign policy, and this teetering presidency with Oona Hathaway of Yale Law School, Susan Hennessey of Lawfare, Kim Ghattas of the Carnegie Endowment and our own Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law School.Tune in!

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Every day in Trumpassic Era seems like a million years in geological time. Sex scandals, echoes of old pee tapes, pending missile strikes in search of a strategy, waves of national security experts leaving the White House, the president calling the former FBI director a “lying slimebag”, the FBI director launching a book that is the most stunning attack by a top former official on a sitting president in memory…and the president, according to his staff, just sitting around fuming, eating and watching TV. It’s a mad whirl and we’ve got it all right up to, but not including, the Khloe-Tristan cheating scandal. Tune in to a great Deep State Radio featuring Rosa Brooks, Kori Schake and Mieke Eoyang!

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John Bolton’s first day as National Security Advisor presents him with the kind of opportunities he has waited his entire life for—a choice between worsening relations and possible military action against Syria, Iran and North Korea. Where will he succeed in making Trump’s terrible instincts worse? Or is there a chance he might become in his new role a more responsible voice creating a constructive meaningful process that produces wise policy outcomes. (Nah. There isn’t a Tiara of Optimism big or powerful enough to expect that outcome.) Join us as we discuss with the Angels of Doom—Rosa Brooks and Sam Vinograd, the reigning holder of the Tiara of Optimism, Kori Schake and the wise (and therefore pessimistic) Julie Smith.

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Published 2018-04-05

The World After Trump

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The day after Trump leaves office some things will change immediately (like a terrible management style or diplomacy via Twitter or bad relations with Mexico) and some things will take years to fix (like the institutions we have broken or repairing our standing as a reliable partner.). On this episode of Deep State Radio Kori Schake of the IISS, Rosa Brooks of Georgetown, Kelly Magsamen of the Center for American Progress and host David Rothkopf discuss how America and the world should prepare for a moment that may be approaching faster than we think...but will get here sooner or later inevitably.

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Published 2018-04-03

Vladimir Putin, You Win a Brand New Car!

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Perhaps its his fear of an impending Oprah candidacy but Donald Trump seems to be embracing her tactic of great generosity to her audience. In his case, it is of course, the audience of one he covets most...the one in the Kremlin. And so in this week's episode of Trump's reality television show he has decided--after attacking our neighbors to the South (Mexico), a big American company (Amazon), and the U.S. Department of Justice--to give a big reward to Putin by reportedly inviting him to a White House meeting. This is the kind of reward presidents reserve only for special friends--and think of what Putin has done to deserve it. Yes, Just think of it. That's what our Rosa Brooks, Kori Schake and special guest Kelly Magsamen from the Center for American Progress do on this episode of Deep State Radio. Tune in!

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It looks like the Trump-Kim Summit is a thing. A real thing. That’ll likely happen this Spring. At least, all indicators were pointing in that direction following Kim Jong Un’s stealthy train trip from Pyongyang to Beijing this past week and the follow up announcement that meetings with Chinese leader Xi Jinping were productive and that Kim was willing to discuss the de-nuclearization of the Korean Peninsula. Whatever that may mean. We discuss the trip, the winners, the losers and how John Bolton’s mustache will fare at the negotiating table. Also: a look at the latest news about Trump and Russia and whether it will actually take a revealing photo showing Trump’s full-body Russian mafia tattoo (a la “Eastern Promises”) to prove to the GOP leadership that Comrade T has all along been the star of “The Hunt for Orange November”, a sequel that we definitely did not need. Join Rosa Brooks, Ed Luce and David Sanger and host David Rothkopf for this latest episode!

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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!David Sanger of the New York Times, Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University Law Center, Evelyn Farkas of the Atlantic Council and Edward Luce of the Financial Times elucidate.Tune in!

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He doesn't love democracy. He is aging. He, frankly, doesn't run with a very nice crowd. Oh, and there are all those invasions and murders and all that spying and so on. But Vladimir Putin has now won four elections to be Russia's president...and is two-for-two in major superpower elections in the past couple years. Where can this lead...and what happens if Trump turns up the heat on his patron anytime soon? Plus--what would be the consequences of ditching the Iran deal (as the U.S. now seems likely to do)? For the Middle East? For North Korea? Rosa Brooks, Kori Schake, Ed Luce and David Rothkopf discuss. Join us.

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Published 2018-03-20

What's Worse Than a Constitutional Crisis?

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A recent article in the Atlantic echoed a discussion we had not too long on Deep State Radio about whether or not we are in a "constitutional crisis." The conclusion was we face "rot" not a crisis right now. But is that worse than a crisis because it inures us to a problem without motivating us to confront and change it? And is there something worse, an underlying cultural crisis that threaten our society in even more grievous ways? Kori Schake, Rosa Brooks, Ed Luce and David Rothkopf discuss. Tune in.

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With so much focus on scandal, corruption, nuclear war, racism, isolationism, protectionism, and nationalism in the era of Trump, we sometimes lose site of the little things. Like the future. Or the urgent problems we have to solve. Or the truth. On this episode of Deep State Radio Georgetown University's Rosa Brooks, IISS Deputy Director General Kori Schake and Vice President for the National Security Program at Third Way Mieke Eoyang debate the people, processes and mind-sets that are our problem and what to do about them. And they defend the idea of objective truth, even visiting for a bit with most famous ever Bishop of Cloyne, George Berkeley. Fun? Right? Join us.

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Every feel like you're living inside a washing machine in the middle of the spin cycle? We hope it's not because you have a Tide pod in your mouth. Instead, if you're like the typical Deep State Radio listener its because you have a fairly acute addiction to cable news and social media. We'd cure it if we could. But for now, the best we can do is help you manage it by talking about the very latest news including the Twitter-firing of Rex Tillerson and everything it triggered with a great group of experts including Ambassador Nicholas Burns of Harvard, Kori Schake of the IISS, Evelyn Farkas of the Atlantic Council and Ed Luce of the Financial Times. Don't miss it.

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It's an old rule of improv comedy that you have to play along with the premise you are presented with. It's a rule apparently that the old show biz wannabe who is currently president of the United States took to heart last week when he jumped on North Korean dictatorial dumpling Kim Jong Un's invitation to have a sit down. He said "yes" before he or anyone on his staff had the slightest idea about what that might mean. And now the world has to figure out what to do with this new wrinkle. Fortunately, Deep State Nerds have this episode with Third Way's Mieke Eoyang, The Alliance for Securing Democracy's Laura Rosenberger, IISS' Kori Schake and Georgetown University's Rosa Brooks. It's a great one. Don't miss it.

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