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Nonprofits Are Messy is the podcast for nonprofit leaders navigating the real challenges of leadership, fundraising, governance, communications, and organizational growth. Hosted by Joan Garry and Glennda Testone, each episode features candid conversations, practical advice, and honest stories to help you lead with greater confidence through the messiness of nonprofit work.
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Nonprofits Are Messy is the podcast for nonprofit leaders navigating the real challenges of leadership, fundraising, governance, communications, and organizational growth. Hosted by Joan Garry and Glennda Testone, each episode features candid conversations, practical advice, and honest stories to help you lead with greater confidence through the messiness of nonprofit work.
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Published 2018-06-02

Ep 60: Why Nonprofit Journalism Matters (with Christa Scharfenberg)

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Nonprofit media fills an important gap. Local and regional newsrooms have been decimated and the expense of investigative journalism is very high. In this episode, Christa Scharfenberg, the acting CEO for the Center of Investigative Reporting, explains the specific challenges nonprofit journalism faces.
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Nonprofit media fills an important gap. Local and regional newsrooms have been decimated and the expense of investigative journalism is very high. In this episode, Christa Scharfenberg, the acting CEO for the Center of Investigative Reporting, explains the specific challenges nonprofit journalism faces.
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Published 2018-05-19

Ep 59: Scaling Up Your Nonprofit (with Kathleen Kelly Janus)

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Your nonprofit has hit a wall and you want to scale up. But how? Why do some organizations grow and others do not? In this episode, Kathleen demystifies the process for “biggie-sizing” your nonprofit.
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Your nonprofit has hit a wall and you want to scale up. But how? Why do some organizations grow and others do not? In this episode, Kathleen demystifies the process for “biggie-sizing” your nonprofit.
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Published 2018-05-05

Ep 58: Is It Time to Leave Facebook? (with Julia Campbell)

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Facebook has broken trust with the public. Should your nonprofit think about leaving the platform? Learn how Cambridge Analytics purchased data from people who did not explicitly give permission and how this affects your nonprofit.
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Facebook has broken trust with the public. Should your nonprofit think about leaving the platform? Learn how Cambridge Analytics purchased data from people who did not explicitly give permission and how this affects your nonprofit.
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Published 2018-04-14

Ep 57: You Can Do Hard Things

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How can you run a nonprofit with so little staff? You want to make a difference with that budget? There is so much hard work to be done - surely you can’t do these hard things, can you? Guess what… you can. Here’s the proof.
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How can you run a nonprofit with so little staff? You want to make a difference with that budget? There is so much hard work to be done - surely you can’t do these hard things, can you? Guess what… you can. Here’s the proof.
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Published 2018-04-07

Ep 56: Anatomy of a Crisis (with Emily Klehm)

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When a major crisis hit – an employee had been mugged at gunpoint and a dog stolen – Emily Klehm stepped up big time as the leader of the South Suburban Humane Society. But she never could have guessed what would happen next.
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When a major crisis hit – an employee had been mugged at gunpoint and a dog stolen – Emily Klehm stepped up big time as the leader of the South Suburban Humane Society. But she never could have guessed what would happen next.
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Published 2018-03-31

Ep 55: The Nonprofit Sector Has Serious Money Hangups (with Belinda Rosenblum)

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Do you get anxious asking people for donations? How much salary should the leader of a nonprofit make? How do you feel about wealthy people? The answers to these questions all come down to your deeply rooted feelings about money. How can we recognize and understand these feelings so we can make them more productive?
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Do you get anxious asking people for donations? How much salary should the leader of a nonprofit make? How do you feel about wealthy people? The answers to these questions all come down to your deeply rooted feelings about money. How can we recognize and understand these feelings so we can make them more productive?
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Published 2018-03-17

Ep 54: The 15-Year-Old Nonprofit Superhero (with Kayla & Andrea Abramowitz)

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Kayla Abramowitz is AMAZING. At 11 years old, she founded a nonprofit that helps sick kids feel a whole lot better. In this episode, Kayla and her CEO-mom share what they’ve learned over the last 4 years running their nonprofit, and provide some well-earned wisdom for every nonprofit founder out there.
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Kayla Abramowitz is AMAZING. At 11 years old, she founded a nonprofit that helps sick kids feel a whole lot better. In this episode, Kayla and her CEO-mom share what they’ve learned over the last 4 years running their nonprofit, and provide some well-earned wisdom for every nonprofit founder out there.
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Published 2018-03-03

Ep 53: Asking for Money Isn’t Sexy… But Philanthropy Is (with Claire Axelrad)

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Neuroscientists confirm that when somebody gives a donation, it lights up the same part of the brain as having sex or eating chocolate. So why does fundraising give so many adults the creeps? And how to you build a culture of philanthropy where everyone understands how they can effectively contribute?
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Neuroscientists confirm that when somebody gives a donation, it lights up the same part of the brain as having sex or eating chocolate. So why does fundraising give so many adults the creeps? And how to you build a culture of philanthropy where everyone understands how they can effectively contribute?
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Published 2018-02-17

Ep 52: Personal Politics vs. Public Responsibilities (with Anne Wallestad)

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Every person who joins a board comes with opinions and points of view. But what happens when your responsibility to your organization as a board member conflicts with your personal politics? Should you keep it to yourself?
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Every person who joins a board comes with opinions and points of view. But what happens when your responsibility to your organization as a board member conflicts with your personal politics? Should you keep it to yourself?
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Published 2018-02-03

Ep 51: A Symphony of Shared Leadership (with Jim Roe and Bernard Labadie)

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At arts orgs, how should power be shared when, in addition to the Executive Director, there is also a creative director who is, perhaps, the most important leader of all? My guests explain how their very successful shared leadership model really works for them, and ultimately results in a beautiful symphony.
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At arts orgs, how should power be shared when, in addition to the Executive Director, there is also a creative director who is, perhaps, the most important leader of all? My guests explain how their very successful shared leadership model really works for them, and ultimately results in a beautiful symphony.
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Published 2018-01-20

Ep 50: Why Bartenders Make Great Leaders (with Helen Rothberg)

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Based on lessons she learned working as a bartender while pursuing degrees in business and behavioral science, Dr. Helen Rothberg identifies leaders by a cocktail of choices they make; how to approach obstacles, managing conflict, facilitating groups and connections, adapting to current realities, and much more.
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Based on lessons she learned working as a bartender while pursuing degrees in business and behavioral science, Dr. Helen Rothberg identifies leaders by a cocktail of choices they make; how to approach obstacles, managing conflict, facilitating groups and connections, adapting to current realities, and much more.
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Published 2018-01-06

Ep 49: How To Make 2018 a Whole Lot Better

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This podcast is about resolving to bounce back. It’s about living in a world of unease while keeping your passion and desire to improve it -- alive and well. In this episode, I share 15 things worth a shot in 2018. These non-resolutions have three things in common. They are doable, universal, and meaningful.
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This podcast is about resolving to bounce back. It’s about living in a world of unease while keeping your passion and desire to improve it -- alive and well. In this episode, I share 15 things worth a shot in 2018. These non-resolutions have three things in common. They are doable, universal, and meaningful.
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Published 2017-12-16

Ep 48: Building a Culture of Gratitude

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A strong leader builds an organizational culture of gratitude. It impacts your staff, board, volunteers, donors, and more. But how do you do it? And when?
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A strong leader builds an organizational culture of gratitude. It impacts your staff, board, volunteers, donors, and more. But how do you do it? And when?
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Published 2017-12-02

Ep 47: How to Engage Millennials (with Abra Annes)

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How do we engage millennials and get them to support causes we care about, and that we hope they care about too? That's the topic of today's podcast...
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How do we engage millennials and get them to support causes we care about, and that we hope they care about too? That's the topic of today's podcast...
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Published 2017-11-18

Ep 46: Strategic Program Design (with Lindsay Hoffman)

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Too often, nonprofits become distracted by the newest and shiniest programming. This can cause big opportunities to be missed. Lindsay Hoffman explains...
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Too often, nonprofits become distracted by the newest and shiniest programming. This can cause big opportunities to be missed. Lindsay Hoffman explains...
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Published 2017-11-04

Ep 45: The Final 60 Days of the Year (with Seth Rosen)

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We're now in the critical year-end fundraising season. It's daunting. My guest, Seth Rosen, will help you sort it out and make the most of these 2 months…
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We're now in the critical year-end fundraising season. It's daunting. My guest, Seth Rosen, will help you sort it out and make the most of these 2 months…
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Published 2017-07-29

Ep 41: What Every New Board Member Needs to Understand

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I’d love for this podcast to be played for new board members – maybe at an orientation or perhaps at a board retreat when you are setting expectations.
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I’d love for this podcast to be played for new board members – maybe at an orientation or perhaps at a board retreat when you are setting expectations.
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Published 2017-06-17

Ep 38: What the Heck is Marketing Anyway? (with Sarah Durham)

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Marketing, done right, is central to all aspects of a nonprofit organization, from raising money to attracting the best people to enabling programs...
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Marketing, done right, is central to all aspects of a nonprofit organization, from raising money to attracting the best people to enabling programs...
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Published 2017-06-03

Ep 37: The Partnership That Drives a Thriving Nonprofit (with Kim Freedman and Nick Purrington)

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What is the single best indicator of a thriving nonprofit? A strong partnership between the board and staff leaders. So I spoke with both and asked them...
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What is the single best indicator of a thriving nonprofit? A strong partnership between the board and staff leaders. So I spoke with both and asked them...
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Published 2017-04-29

Ep 35: Stop Asking Your Board to Fundraise! (With Gail Perry)

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In this episode fundraising expert Gail Perry argues that pushing your board members to fundraise is a big mistake. She suggests a better approach...
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In this episode fundraising expert Gail Perry argues that pushing your board members to fundraise is a big mistake. She suggests a better approach...
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Published 2017-04-15

Ep 34: Leading a Small (But Mighty) Nonprofit (With Joan Garry)

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Small nonprofits need as much (or more) help than larger ones but usually don't have the same resources available. This episode focuses on their issues...
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Small nonprofits need as much (or more) help than larger ones but usually don't have the same resources available. This episode focuses on their issues...
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Published 2017-04-01

Ep 33: Successful Nonprofit Collaborations (With Geri Mannion)

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It takes a village to run a nonprofit. Today’s guest tells us a thing or two about the success that comes with collaboration – and the potential hazards.
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It takes a village to run a nonprofit. Today’s guest tells us a thing or two about the success that comes with collaboration – and the potential hazards.
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Published 2017-03-04

Ep 31: Givers and Takers at Nonprofits (With Adam Grant)

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Once in awhile you read a book that really sticks with you and changes the way you think. For me, one of those was "Give and Take" by Adam Grant.
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Once in awhile you read a book that really sticks with you and changes the way you think. For me, one of those was "Give and Take" by Adam Grant.
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Published 2017-02-18

Ep 30: Nonprofits Are Messy… So What? (with Tim Harford)

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Some argue that when I call nonprofits “messy,” I’m doing them a disservice. Am I? My guest Tim Harford believes that we should all embrace the mess. But how?
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Some argue that when I call nonprofits “messy,” I’m doing them a disservice. Am I? My guest Tim Harford believes that we should all embrace the mess. But how?
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Published 2017-01-07

Ep 27: Confessions of a Terrible Board Member (with Eileen Opatut)

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What if a prospective board member looks great “on paper” but doesn’t pan out as the five-star board member you’d expected? Is it their fault? Yours?
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What if a prospective board member looks great “on paper” but doesn’t pan out as the five-star board member you’d expected? Is it their fault? Yours?
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Published 2016-12-17

Ep 26: Building a Culture of Optimism (with Steve Gross)

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Two brothers start a business selling t-shirts with just $78 in the bank. They live out of a van and eat PB and J for 5 years. They are selling optimism..
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Two brothers start a business selling t-shirts with just $78 in the bank. They live out of a van and eat PB and J for 5 years. They are selling optimism..
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Published 2016-12-03

Ep 25: Year End In T-Minus 30… (with Seth Rosen)

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Most nonprofits see 30% of their revenue come in the door in December. Have you planted sufficient seeds? Will you hit your numbers? Are you ready?
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Most nonprofits see 30% of their revenue come in the door in December. Have you planted sufficient seeds? Will you hit your numbers? Are you ready?
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Published 2016-10-08

Ep 22: The Art and Science of Asking for Money (with Brian Saber)

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Why do so many people find it terrifying to ask for money, even for organizations they care deeply about? It's critical. Here's how to go about asking...
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Why do so many people find it terrifying to ask for money, even for organizations they care deeply about? It's critical. Here's how to go about asking...
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Published 2016-09-24

Ep 21: The Happy Healthy Nonprofit (with Beth Kanter)

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Working at a nonprofit can feel like an express train to Burnout-land. How do we avoid that stay mindful and healthy while doing such passionate work?
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Working at a nonprofit can feel like an express train to Burnout-land. How do we avoid that stay mindful and healthy while doing such passionate work?
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Published 2016-08-27

Ep 19: How to Give a Great Speech (with Elaine Bennett)

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How do you write and give a great speech that excites and inspires your audience about your organization? Elaine Bennett tells you how to do just that.
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How do you write and give a great speech that excites and inspires your audience about your organization? Elaine Bennett tells you how to do just that.
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Published 2016-07-02

Ep 15: On Direct Response Fundraising – with guest Lisa Maska

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I spoke with guest Lisa Maska about how marketing has changed in the digital age and why direct response fundraising still works better than anything else.
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I spoke with guest Lisa Maska about how marketing has changed in the digital age and why direct response fundraising still works better than anything else.
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