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5-4 is a podcast about how much the Supreme Court sucks. Hosted by Peter Shamshiri, Rhiannon Hamam, and Michael Liroff, it's a progressive and occasionally profane take on the ideological battles at the heart of the Court's most important landmark cases and an irreverent tour of all the ways in which the law is shaped by politics. Subscribe to our premium episodes & much more at fivefourpod.com/support 5-4 is a production of Prologue Projects.
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5-4 is a podcast about how much the Supreme Court sucks. Hosted by Peter Shamshiri, Rhiannon Hamam, and Michael Liroff, it's a progressive and occasionally profane take on the ideological battles at the heart of the Court's most important landmark cases and an irreverent tour of all the ways in which the law is shaped by politics. Subscribe to our premium episodes & much more at fivefourpod.com/support 5-4 is a production of Prologue Projects.
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John Roberts has decided that the standard for whether or not something is a "major question" is whether or not it "raises an eyebrow." But like, let's not beat around the bush, John - you can just say vibe check.


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John Roberts has decided that the standard for whether or not something is a "major question" is whether or not it "raises an eyebrow." But like, let's not beat around the bush, John - you can just say vibe check.


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Published 2022-07-12

Kennedy v. Bremerton School District

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In this case from the most recent term, the Court once again says we should look to history and tradition to determine what's appropriate. Which is gonna be a tough one to parse, because the founders didn't really give us a strong sense of how they felt about junior varsity football games at public high schools. Probably because none of those things had been invented yet.


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In this case from the most recent term, the Court once again says we should look to history and tradition to determine what's appropriate. Which is gonna be a tough one to parse, because the founders didn't really give us a strong sense of how they felt about junior varsity football games at public high schools. Probably because none of those things had been invented yet.


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Published 2022-06-28

Shinn v. Ramirez

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This episode contains descriptions of violence against a child that may be challenging for some listeners. Please take care while listening.


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Published 2022-06-25

Emergency Episode: Roe Is Overturned

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The Supreme Court has released the long-awaited Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization decision. The news is bad.


Ruling in favor of Mississippi, the Court allows the state to ban nearly all abortions after 15 weeks. The opinion is written by Justice Samuel Alito, and is largely the same as the opinion that was leaked earlier this year. Alito writes, "The Constitution does not confer a right to abortion; Roe and Casey are overruled; and the authority to regulate abortion is returned to the people and their elected representatives."


Roe v. Wade, precedent that has guaranteed privacy and bodily autonomy for half a century, is dead, imperiling the access to reproductive healthcare for millions of people.


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The Supreme Court has released the long-awaited Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization decision. The news is bad.


Ruling in favor of Mississippi, the Court allows the state to ban nearly all abortions after 15 weeks. The opinion is written by Justice Samuel Alito, and is largely the same as the opinion that was leaked earlier this year. Alito writes, "The Constitution does not confer a right to abortion; Roe and Casey are overruled; and the authority to regulate abortion is returned to the people and their elected representatives."


Roe v. Wade, precedent that has guaranteed privacy and bodily autonomy for half a century, is dead, imperiling the access to reproductive healthcare for millions of people.


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Egbert v. Boule

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In this case the Court holds that you have no right to sue a federal official, even if a border agent trespasses on your property, knocks you to the ground, and calls the IRS on you for having the gall to file a complaint about it. So if you're keeping track at home, the Court is saying that First Amendment and Fourth Amendment don't actually mean anything.


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In this case the Court holds that you have no right to sue a federal official, even if a border agent trespasses on your property, knocks you to the ground, and calls the IRS on you for having the gall to file a complaint about it. So if you're keeping track at home, the Court is saying that First Amendment and Fourth Amendment don't actually mean anything.


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The hosts were recently guests on Know Your Enemy, talking about the origins of the conservative legal movement, and its decades-long campaign to overturn Roe v. Wade. This episode is part of a series they're calling "How They Did It," about the likely reversal of Roe. If you like this episode, you find Know Your Enemy wherever you get your podcasts.


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The hosts were recently guests on Know Your Enemy, talking about the origins of the conservative legal movement, and its decades-long campaign to overturn Roe v. Wade. This episode is part of a series they're calling "How They Did It," about the likely reversal of Roe. If you like this episode, you find Know Your Enemy wherever you get your podcasts.


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This week, the hosts use a variety of film and television references to try and capture the pure villainy of a recent ruling that allows candidates to "loan" their campaigns unlimited money and be paid back, with donor funds, AFTER they're elected. We're talking tie-a-damsel-to-the-tracks-twirl-your-mustache level.


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This week, the hosts use a variety of film and television references to try and capture the pure villainy of a recent ruling that allows candidates to "loan" their campaigns unlimited money and be paid back, with donor funds, AFTER they're elected. We're talking tie-a-damsel-to-the-tracks-twirl-your-mustache level.


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Published 2022-05-31

Brett Kavanaugh - Unlocked Premium Episode

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The hosts pound some brewskis with Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.


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The hosts pound some brewskis with Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.


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Published 2022-05-24

Whren v. United States

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This unanimous decision holds that cops who don't deal with traffic enforcement are allowed to tail you until you commit a minor offense, and then literally dive head first into your car to nab you on an unrelated drug charge. It's just another case in a long line of Supreme Court jurisprudence that is preferential to the "I Do What I Want" brand of policing … and completely antithetical to the Fourth Amendment.


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This unanimous decision holds that cops who don't deal with traffic enforcement are allowed to tail you until you commit a minor offense, and then literally dive head first into your car to nab you on an unrelated drug charge. It's just another case in a long line of Supreme Court jurisprudence that is preferential to the "I Do What I Want" brand of policing … and completely antithetical to the Fourth Amendment.


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Published 2022-05-17

United States v. Vaello Madero

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In this ruling from just last month, the Supreme Court ruled that Puerto Ricans are not entitled to equal protection under the Fifth Amendment because … unclear. Citizens who live in DC and the Northern Mariana Islands? Yes - equal citizens under the law. Puerto Ricans and Guamamians? Sorry, no, try again next century.


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In this ruling from just last month, the Supreme Court ruled that Puerto Ricans are not entitled to equal protection under the Fifth Amendment because … unclear. Citizens who live in DC and the Northern Mariana Islands? Yes - equal citizens under the law. Puerto Ricans and Guamamians? Sorry, no, try again next century.


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Published 2022-05-10

5-4 Live in Oakland [TEASER]

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A common criticism of 5-4 is that adjudicating is hard work, and the hosts have no experience. So to prove that no, judging is actually dummy easy and anyone can do it, in this live show, the hosts rule on disputes brought by the audience. They also talk about Oakland v. BP, in honor of their appearance at The New Parish in Oakland, AND make a very special phone call to everyone's favorite beer aficionado.


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A common criticism of 5-4 is that adjudicating is hard work, and the hosts have no experience. So to prove that no, judging is actually dummy easy and anyone can do it, in this live show, the hosts rule on disputes brought by the audience. They also talk about Oakland v. BP, in honor of their appearance at The New Parish in Oakland, AND make a very special phone call to everyone's favorite beer aficionado.


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In this emergency episode, the hosts are talking about what happens now that a draft of Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization decision has been leaked.  Roe v. Wade will almost certainly be overturned, and abortion will likely become illegal in almost half of the country. But other rights predicated on due process, like birth control, marriage equality, and desegregation, are at risk too.


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In this emergency episode, the hosts are talking about what happens now that a draft of Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization decision has been leaked.  Roe v. Wade will almost certainly be overturned, and abortion will likely become illegal in almost half of the country. But other rights predicated on due process, like birth control, marriage equality, and desegregation, are at risk too.


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Published 2022-04-26

Lassiter v. Department of Social Services

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In this case, the Supreme Court rules that a mother who is at risk of losing parental rights for her child is not entitled to a lawyer during the proceedings. This episode features discussions of families interacting with social services and the foster system. Please take care while listening.


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In this case, the Supreme Court rules that a mother who is at risk of losing parental rights for her child is not entitled to a lawyer during the proceedings. This episode features discussions of families interacting with social services and the foster system. Please take care while listening.


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A difference of political opinion is when one person wants the coal industry to get tax breaks, but another person wants the oil industry to get tax breaks. Not wanting to be conscripted into an army to fight in a war against your will is NOT a political opinion. Therefore, it is totally fine for the United States - the nation that instigated the war mind you - to deny you an asylum hearing and send you back to face that certain fate.


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A difference of political opinion is when one person wants the coal industry to get tax breaks, but another person wants the oil industry to get tax breaks. Not wanting to be conscripted into an army to fight in a war against your will is NOT a political opinion. Therefore, it is totally fine for the United States - the nation that instigated the war mind you - to deny you an asylum hearing and send you back to face that certain fate.


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President Biden thought he could bury his weaksauce Supreme Court commission report by releasing it right before Christmas. Nice try Joey. We talked to commission member Kermit Roosevelt, of University of Pennsylvania Carey Law School, about being radicalized by his fellow liberals on the commission. Not because they're radical too, but because they're so institutionalist he got fed up.


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President Biden thought he could bury his weaksauce Supreme Court commission report by releasing it right before Christmas. Nice try Joey. We talked to commission member Kermit Roosevelt, of University of Pennsylvania Carey Law School, about being radicalized by his fellow liberals on the commission. Not because they're radical too, but because they're so institutionalist he got fed up.


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This week, 5-4 is inviting you to check out an episode of Damages, from the Critical Frequency Podcast Network.


Damages is a courtroom drama podcast that follows the well over 200 climate lawsuits currently active in courtrooms all over the world. Ranging from explanatory episodes to docuseries to narrative seasons, it’s a show about the quest for justice and a crime against humanity: the climate crisis. In this episode: a case on behalf of wild rice, or manoomin in the Ojibwe language. The rights of manoomin case was originally filed in an effort to stop construction of the Line 3 pipeline. That pipeline has been built, but the case is still active, and it could have major implications for other pipeline fights.


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This week, 5-4 is inviting you to check out an episode of Damages, from the Critical Frequency Podcast Network.


Damages is a courtroom drama podcast that follows the well over 200 climate lawsuits currently active in courtrooms all over the world. Ranging from explanatory episodes to docuseries to narrative seasons, it’s a show about the quest for justice and a crime against humanity: the climate crisis. In this episode: a case on behalf of wild rice, or manoomin in the Ojibwe language. The rights of manoomin case was originally filed in an effort to stop construction of the Line 3 pipeline. That pipeline has been built, but the case is still active, and it could have major implications for other pipeline fights.


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Published 2022-03-29

Lorillard Tobacco Co. v. Reilly

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To review: If you are an anonymous donor, using your money to drown out the voices of everyone else in an election, that is free speech. If you are a citizen who wants to tell a cop to fuck off, that is NOT free speech. And if you are a tobacco company that wants to tell children about the rich, smooth taste of a product that will addict and kill them, that is free speech.


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To review: If you are an anonymous donor, using your money to drown out the voices of everyone else in an election, that is free speech. If you are a citizen who wants to tell a cop to fuck off, that is NOT free speech. And if you are a tobacco company that wants to tell children about the rich, smooth taste of a product that will addict and kill them, that is free speech.


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Published 2022-03-22

Strickland v. Washington

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In this case, eight Supreme Court justices felt like it was totally fine to let the state kill a man, even though his lawyer prepared exactly NOTHING to present mitigating factors during the sentencing phase of his trial.


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In this case, eight Supreme Court justices felt like it was totally fine to let the state kill a man, even though his lawyer prepared exactly NOTHING to present mitigating factors during the sentencing phase of his trial.


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Published 2022-03-15

The Civil Rights Cases of 1883 [TEASER]

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In this episode, the hosts discuss a series of cases from 1883 about the 13th and 14th Amendments, which ultimately ushered in the Jim Crow era.  And what's really fun (fun?), is that these holdings use some of the very same shitty justifications of racial discrimination that you'll find on Fox News to this very day. Time is a flat circle!


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In this episode, the hosts discuss a series of cases from 1883 about the 13th and 14th Amendments, which ultimately ushered in the Jim Crow era.  And what's really fun (fun?), is that these holdings use some of the very same shitty justifications of racial discrimination that you'll find on Fox News to this very day. Time is a flat circle!


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We Need To Talk About Ginni

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In this long-anticipated episode we finally get into The Ginni Problem. New Yorker chief Washington correspondent Jane Mayer joins us to talk cults, insurrection, and other super normal Supreme Court stuff.


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In this long-anticipated episode we finally get into The Ginni Problem. New Yorker chief Washington correspondent Jane Mayer joins us to talk cults, insurrection, and other super normal Supreme Court stuff.


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Published 2022-03-01

Merrill v. Milligan

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The Supreme Court says there's simply no time before elections that are months away, to redraw racist Congressional district maps, that took all of one week to make initially.  If you're a fan of democracy that probably sounds bad, but listen, nothing in the Constitution explicitly says that fascism is expressly prohibited.


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The Supreme Court says there's simply no time before elections that are months away, to redraw racist Congressional district maps, that took all of one week to make initially.  If you're a fan of democracy that probably sounds bad, but listen, nothing in the Constitution explicitly says that fascism is expressly prohibited.


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Published 2022-02-22

The Lochner Era [TEASER]

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Do you like reboots? You're gonna love The Lochner Era 2: Return of the Robber Barons! Featuring all of the union-busting, labor-exploiting, children-working-in-a-coal-mine of the original Gilded Age, but now with 100 percent more campaign spending by corporations!


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Published 2022-02-15

Ingraham v. Wright

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This episode contains references to physical abuse of children. Take care when listening.


The standing law on corporal punishment - physically punishing children - in schools, is that it's legal because 8th Amendment protections against cruel and unusual punishment only applies to CRIMES. Failure to get your keister in line mister, is not a crime, and therefore, punishable by beating.


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This episode contains references to physical abuse of children. Take care when listening.


The standing law on corporal punishment - physically punishing children - in schools, is that it's legal because 8th Amendment protections against cruel and unusual punishment only applies to CRIMES. Failure to get your keister in line mister, is not a crime, and therefore, punishable by beating.


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Racism equals bad so acknowledging race bad too so reverse racism real so white girl go to preferred school, yes?


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The Best Amendment (The Ninth) [TEASER]

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This long-lost amendment gives you rights that our founding fathers, even in their wildest dreams, couldn't enumerate. So that's kind of a problem for modern conservatives.


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This long-lost amendment gives you rights that our founding fathers, even in their wildest dreams, couldn't enumerate. So that's kind of a problem for modern conservatives.


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NFIB v. Department of Labor

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In this ongoing case, the Court holds that requirements that employees mask and test weekly, or get vaccinated, cannot be enforced while a challenge makes its way through the judiciary. It's good news for … I don't know, hermits living in caves who never interact with humans, or people who are already dead? For everyone else, it's not so great.

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In this ongoing case, the Court holds that requirements that employees mask and test weekly, or get vaccinated, cannot be enforced while a challenge makes its way through the judiciary. It's good news for … I don't know, hermits living in caves who never interact with humans, or people who are already dead? For everyone else, it's not so great.

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Florida v. Riley

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Go-go-gadget surveillance state! In this case the Court holds that cops can hover a helicopter over your house and peer into it without a warrant. That set a new standard for the Fourth Amendment - namely that it doesn't really exist, and if you wanted privacy then you should have been richer.

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Go-go-gadget surveillance state! In this case the Court holds that cops can hover a helicopter over your house and peer into it without a warrant. That set a new standard for the Fourth Amendment - namely that it doesn't really exist, and if you wanted privacy then you should have been richer.

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5-4 Presents: Scene on Radio - "Pachamama"

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This week, 5-4 is inviting you to check out an episode of Scene on Radio, from the Center for Documentary Studies at Duke University. Scene on Radio asks big, hard questions about who we are, and how we got this way. This season, "The Repair," they're focusing on the climate crisis, and in this episode they're looking at the creative ways we can use the law to protect nature and fend off climate change.

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Welp, 2021 wasn't a banner year for reproductive rights, and 2022 is looking worse.

That's why it's worth revisiting this episode about Roe v. Wade. In this first episode of a two-part series, the hosts look at the legal and factual origins of Roe v. Wade. They also discuss how Roe was weaponized by the conservative legal movement to rally against an interpretation of the Constitution that allows for flexibility in favor of a far more rigid approach.

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Welp, 2021 wasn't a banner year for reproductive rights, and 2022 is looking worse.

That's why it's worth revisiting this episode about Roe v. Wade. In this first episode of a two-part series, the hosts look at the legal and factual origins of Roe v. Wade. They also discuss how Roe was weaponized by the conservative legal movement to rally against an interpretation of the Constitution that allows for flexibility in favor of a far more rigid approach.

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In the second part of this two-episode series on abortion rights, the hosts discuss Planned Parenthood v. Casey, a 1992 case in which the Supreme Court made it easier for states to restrict abortion access so long as abortion regulations don't create an "undue burden." The vague standard set lawmakers on a new path of attacking abortion access, and fueled anti-abortion groups' efforts to spread stigma and misinformation, setting up Roe v. Wade for a death by a thousand cuts.

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In the second part of this two-episode series on abortion rights, the hosts discuss Planned Parenthood v. Casey, a 1992 case in which the Supreme Court made it easier for states to restrict abortion access so long as abortion regulations don't create an "undue burden." The vague standard set lawmakers on a new path of attacking abortion access, and fueled anti-abortion groups' efforts to spread stigma and misinformation, setting up Roe v. Wade for a death by a thousand cuts.

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The 5-4 Giving Guide: How to Help

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We're sorry for bumming you out all year - but the antidote to a crumbling democracy is mutual aid! In this episode we've got some organizations that you can share your resources with, to help take the edge off of 2021's agony. Happy New Year! Better luck next year!

Here are links to the organizations that we talk about in this episode:

The Legal Aid Society of New York City - https://legalaidnyc.org/ (Peter)

International Refugee Assistance Project - https://refugeerights.org/ (Michael)

Texas Harm Reduction Alliance - https://www.harmreductiontx.org/ (Rhiannon)

Housing Justice for All - https://housingjusticeforall.org/ (Peter)

Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service - https://www.lirs.org/ (Michael)

Jane's Due Process - https://janesdueprocess.org/ (Rhiannon)

Louisiana Center for Children's Rights - https://lakidsrights.org/ (Peter)

Advocates for Children of New York - https://www.advocatesforchildren.org/ (Michael)

Texas Fair Defense Project - https://www.fairdefense.org/ (Rhiannon)

Rivers & Birds - http://www.riversandbirds.org/ (Michael, a gunner)

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We're sorry for bumming you out all year - but the antidote to a crumbling democracy is mutual aid! In this episode we've got some organizations that you can share your resources with, to help take the edge off of 2021's agony. Happy New Year! Better luck next year!

Here are links to the organizations that we talk about in this episode:

The Legal Aid Society of New York City - https://legalaidnyc.org/ (Peter)

International Refugee Assistance Project - https://refugeerights.org/ (Michael)

Texas Harm Reduction Alliance - https://www.harmreductiontx.org/ (Rhiannon)

Housing Justice for All - https://housingjusticeforall.org/ (Peter)

Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service - https://www.lirs.org/ (Michael)

Jane's Due Process - https://janesdueprocess.org/ (Rhiannon)

Louisiana Center for Children's Rights - https://lakidsrights.org/ (Peter)

Advocates for Children of New York - https://www.advocatesforchildren.org/ (Michael)

Texas Fair Defense Project - https://www.fairdefense.org/ (Rhiannon)

Rivers & Birds - http://www.riversandbirds.org/ (Michael, a gunner)

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This week, 5-4 is inviting you to check out an episode of The Politics of Everything, from The New Republic:

Today’s youth are overwhelmingly left-wing. So who are the young conservatives? On this episode of The Politics of Everything, hosts Laura Marsh and Alex Pareene talk to Sam Adler-Bell, a writer and the host of the podcast Know Your Enemy, about an energetic cohort who call themselves the New Right. They differ in many ways from the median right-wing voter. They hate the Republican establishment. Their heroes are illiberal authoritarians. Are they going to remake conservatism?

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Today’s youth are overwhelmingly left-wing. So who are the young conservatives? On this episode of The Politics of Everything, hosts Laura Marsh and Alex Pareene talk to Sam Adler-Bell, a writer and the host of the podcast Know Your Enemy, about an energetic cohort who call themselves the New Right. They differ in many ways from the median right-wing voter. They hate the Republican establishment. Their heroes are illiberal authoritarians. Are they going to remake conservatism?

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On the 12th day of Christmas, the Warren Court gave to us:

Loving Day on June 12th;

11 December 1952 - final day of argument in Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka;

Nationalization of the first ten amendments;

Nine concurring justices;

(8-1 in Reynolds v. Sims);

Seven birth control pills a week;

Sixth Amendment right to counsel;

Five Miranda rights;

Fourth Amendment protections;

Three expansions of due process;

Brown v. Board of Education II;

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On the 12th day of Christmas, the Warren Court gave to us:

Loving Day on June 12th;

11 December 1952 - final day of argument in Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka;

Nationalization of the first ten amendments;

Nine concurring justices;

(8-1 in Reynolds v. Sims);

Seven birth control pills a week;

Sixth Amendment right to counsel;

Five Miranda rights;

Fourth Amendment protections;

Three expansions of due process;

Brown v. Board of Education II;

And one man, one vote.



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Town of Greece v. Galloway

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Let us now bow our heads in observance of this episode about why the Supreme Court thinks it's OK for a government to have prayer before public meetings, but NOT OK for the town to manage who gives that prayer or what they pray about. Amen.

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Let us now bow our heads in observance of this episode about why the Supreme Court thinks it's OK for a government to have prayer before public meetings, but NOT OK for the town to manage who gives that prayer or what they pray about. Amen.

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Robert Bork, a Regan nominee to the Supreme Court, showed the depth of his reactionary views during his confirmation hearings, and as a result, was voted down. That kicked off three decades of conservative whining and moaning and retribution, which continues to haunt us today.  This is why we drink.

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Robert Bork, a Regan nominee to the Supreme Court, showed the depth of his reactionary views during his confirmation hearings, and as a result, was voted down. That kicked off three decades of conservative whining and moaning and retribution, which continues to haunt us today.  This is why we drink.

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What's the return on investment on not having an asthma attack? If you can't count it, it doesn't count, according to the majority in this 5-4 ruling, which turned back EPA rules on mercury emissions from power plants. As a result, the power industry won't be burdened by those costly regulations, so you can breathe easy. LOL.

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What's the return on investment on not having an asthma attack? If you can't count it, it doesn't count, according to the majority in this 5-4 ruling, which turned back EPA rules on mercury emissions from power plants. As a result, the power industry won't be burdened by those costly regulations, so you can breathe easy. LOL.

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Senator Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) joins us to talk dark money, judicial nominations, and whether the Democrats have any hope of getting things done without filibuster reform.

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ERRATUM:

At 17:10 Senator Whitehouse refers to a study of 78 Roberts court era decisions. He incorrectly states that 72 of the cases advance Republican and/or corporate interests. The number is 73 cases, or 92 percent.

FURTHER READING:

"A Conservative Activist's Behind-the-Scenes Campaign to Remake the Nation's Courts" - Washington Post

"Inside the Koch-Backed Effort to Block the Largest Election-Reform Bill in Half a Century" - The New Yorker

"One unnamed donor gave $17 million to the Leo-affiliated Judicial Crisis Network to block the nomination of Judge Merrick Garland and to support Gorsuch; then a donor — perhaps the same one — gave another $17 million to prop up Kavanaugh."

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Senator Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) joins us to talk dark money, judicial nominations, and whether the Democrats have any hope of getting things done without filibuster reform.

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At 17:10 Senator Whitehouse refers to a study of 78 Roberts court era decisions. He incorrectly states that 72 of the cases advance Republican and/or corporate interests. The number is 73 cases, or 92 percent.

FURTHER READING:

"A Conservative Activist's Behind-the-Scenes Campaign to Remake the Nation's Courts" - Washington Post

"Inside the Koch-Backed Effort to Block the Largest Election-Reform Bill in Half a Century" - The New Yorker

"One unnamed donor gave $17 million to the Leo-affiliated Judicial Crisis Network to block the nomination of Judge Merrick Garland and to support Gorsuch; then a donor — perhaps the same one — gave another $17 million to prop up Kavanaugh."

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Published 2021-11-02

Hamdi v. Rumsfeld

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A foreign "prisoner of war" can communicate with their family. An American "traitor" can argue their case in court. An American "enemy combatant" can do neither, according to the Supreme Court, creating a third category of prisoner with very few legal rights. America immediately post-9/11 was very chill and normal.

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A foreign "prisoner of war" can communicate with their family. An American "traitor" can argue their case in court. An American "enemy combatant" can do neither, according to the Supreme Court, creating a third category of prisoner with very few legal rights. America immediately post-9/11 was very chill and normal.

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Younger v. Harris

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Oof, this is a tough one: Protect the Constitutional rights of actual people, or clutch the vague concept of "federalism" in my grubby little hands like Gollum with that ring. TBH probably gonna go with my precious. 

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Oof, this is a tough one: Protect the Constitutional rights of actual people, or clutch the vague concept of "federalism" in my grubby little hands like Gollum with that ring. TBH probably gonna go with my precious. 

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When a Supreme Court Justice tells you he's totally legitimate and not part of a secret cabal 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩.

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2021-2022 Supreme Court Term Preview

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The 2022 Supreme Court term is shaping up to be pretty gnarly. We brought on The Nation's justice correspondent, Elie Mystal, to walk us through the cases he's watching.

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The 2022 Supreme Court term is shaping up to be pretty gnarly. We brought on The Nation's justice correspondent, Elie Mystal, to walk us through the cases he's watching.

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Nieves v. Bartlett

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This case originates out of an incident at opposite Burning Man, a ski race in Alaska called Arctic Man. The ruling is about opposite free speech, wherein the justices vote to protect cops' First Amendment right to accidentally say the quiet part out loud when they're doing a retaliatory arrest. 

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This case originates out of an incident at opposite Burning Man, a ski race in Alaska called Arctic Man. The ruling is about opposite free speech, wherein the justices vote to protect cops' First Amendment right to accidentally say the quiet part out loud when they're doing a retaliatory arrest. 

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Published 2021-09-21

Adoptive Couple v. Baby Girl

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A treaty or law not honored by the United States? It's more likely than you think! In a rare child custody case, the Supreme Court rules on the Indian Child Welfare Act, and finds that when you squint your eyes and look at the law kinda sideways in the dark, Congress must not have meant for the law to actually keep Native families together. Land back.

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A treaty or law not honored by the United States? It's more likely than you think! In a rare child custody case, the Supreme Court rules on the Indian Child Welfare Act, and finds that when you squint your eyes and look at the law kinda sideways in the dark, Congress must not have meant for the law to actually keep Native families together. Land back.

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Liberty and the pursuit of justice for landlords and landlords only. In this episode, the hosts talk about how the Supreme Court contorted its reading of the law to deny the Centers for Disease Control the ability to ban eviction during the pandemic.

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Published 2021-09-03

SB8: Whole Woman’s Health v. Jackson

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In this emergency episode, the hosts discuss Whole Woman’s Health v. Jackson, the case where the Supreme Court declined to stay SB8.


SB8 is the monstrous Texas law that allows anyone to sue anyone who even intends to help someone get an abortion after 6 weeks of pregnancy. The effect is that while very early term abortions are still legal in Texas, private individuals have been deputized to bounty hunt abortion providers, activists, and even Uber drivers.



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In this emergency episode, the hosts discuss Whole Woman’s Health v. Jackson, the case where the Supreme Court declined to stay SB8.


SB8 is the monstrous Texas law that allows anyone to sue anyone who even intends to help someone get an abortion after 6 weeks of pregnancy. The effect is that while very early term abortions are still legal in Texas, private individuals have been deputized to bounty hunt abortion providers, activists, and even Uber drivers.



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Published 2021-08-31

Welcome to Law School

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What, like it's hard? This one goes out to all those incoming, current and former Elle Woodses.  You're doing amazing sweetie!

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What, like it's hard? This one goes out to all those incoming, current and former Elle Woodses.  You're doing amazing sweetie!

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Published 2021-08-24

Nestlé v. Doe

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Is it wrong to enslave children on a cocoa plantation? We'll never know! The Supreme Court dismissed the case!

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Is it wrong to enslave children on a cocoa plantation? We'll never know! The Supreme Court dismissed the case!

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Published 2021-08-17

Stephen Breyer [TEASER]

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In this episode, we spend an hour explaining why you should buy our "Stephen Breyer Retire" merch.

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Published 2021-08-10

Americans for Prosperity v. Bonta

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The First Amendment protects the rights of very rich people to be anonymous, unbothered, moisturized, in their lane, well-hydrated, flourishing, when it comes to their charitable contributions. Not you though. Signing that petition to free Mumia in 11th grade is going on your permanent record.

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Published 2021-08-03

Brnovich v. Democratic National Committee

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In this voting rights case from Arizona, the Supreme Court says you can DO racism, you just can't MEAN to do racism, deep down in your cold little withered heart.

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In this voting rights case from Arizona, the Supreme Court says you can DO racism, you just can't MEAN to do racism, deep down in your cold little withered heart.

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