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Every week on the Ali on the Run Show, I talk with inspiring people who lead interesting lives on the run and beyond. And while running is what brings us all together, on these episodes, we're digging a little deeper. These conversations are about the decisions people have made to get where they are today, and how getting sweaty has factored in. Whether you're on the run toward something great or away from something that's holding you back, join me on this never-ending adventure, and let's all pick up the pace together.
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Published 2020-11-09

304. On the Job with Theresa Bradford, Hoka One One Sports Marketing Associate Manager

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"What makes this my dream job is realizing that I can make a difference just by showing up, just by being a woman and a woman of color, and showing up in this space and holding this space and being proud of the work that I'm doing — knowing that we stand for something more than just running, and that we're showing that as an athlete and as a running brand, you can stand for more than just the sport you do."

Theresa Bradford just might have every runner's dream job: She's a sports marketing associate manager for Hoka One One, where she works with Hoka's 150 sponsored elite athletes. (Aliphine Tuliamuk! Steph Bruce! Kellyn Taylor!) On this episode, Theresa talks about getting her start working in Hoka's customer service department, and working her way up to her current position. (Pro tip: Ask for what you want!) She gives us a behind-the-scenes look at what it's really like working in the running industry, and talks about the important work she's doing as part of Hoka's Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion team.

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Published 2020-11-06

303. Feel-Good Friday with Bree Koegel, FitOn Trainer

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"Failing is your jumping off point. It's not the end of the story — it's the beginning. It's one chapter in your story, and you have the whole rest of the book to change the outcome."

Bree Koegel is an absolute delight. She's a former professional dancer turned fitness instructor, and is currently a trainer on the FitOn app. (She first appeared on the Ali on the Run Show on Episode 120. Check it out!) On this episode, Bree — a new mom to four-month-old Tuck! — closes out the Feel-Good Fridays series by talking about the importance of finding joy within, and explaining how, exactly, to do that. Plus, she talks about accepting failure and creating a HIIT routine for self-love. (Burpees optional. Modifications highly encouraged!)

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Published 2020-11-04

302. Courtney Dauwalter, Professional Ultra Runner

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"I hope to make this feel like a sport that anyone can do, no matter who you are."

Courtney Dauwalter is one of the greatest ultra runners of all-time. She has won Western States, the Javelina Jundred, Ultra-Trail du Mont-Blanc (UTMB), and the Moab 240-Mile Endurance Run, where she wasn't just the first woman to finish, she was the overall winner, beating the second-place finisher by 10 hours. Most recently, Courtney was the U.S. winner of the last-man-standing-style Big's Backyard Ultra. She ran 68 laps of a four-mile course for a grand total of 283.33 miles in 56 hours, 52 minutes, and 29 seconds. On this episode, Courtney recounts her race at Big's, talks about her now-famous hallucinations along the way, and reflects on why we can always go further together. Plus, she talks about her attempt at running the Fastest Known Time (FKT) on the 500-mile Colorado Trail this summer, offers her take on failure, and shares her controversial Halloween candy hot takes.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • Why Courtney wanted to run Big's Backyard Ultra this year (5:45)
  • How Courtney prepared for this year's event (10:00)
  • What the start was like at Big's, and how Courtney strategizes for races like these (14:30)
  • What was Courtney rocking out to on the road? (26:00)
  • When did it start to hurt? (27:00)
  • What it's like when people start dropping (31:30)
  • All about those wild hallucinations (36:15)
  • What it was like being the second consecutive woman to win this race (44:00)
  • On representation and diversity in ultra running (46:30)
  • On winning the Moab 240-Mile Endurance Run, and then going on Joe Rogan's podcast (49:30)
  • What is Courtney proudest of? (52:20)
  • Courtney reflects on her attempt at running the FKT on the 500-mile Colorado Trail earlier this year (54:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Ben Chan on Episode 277 of the Ali on the Run Show

"283 Miles, Followed By Beer and Nachos for Courtney Dauwalter," by Erin Strout for Women's Running

Courtney Dauwalter on the Joe Rogan Experience

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Published 2020-11-03

301. On the Job with Danae Dracht, Getty Museum Cataloger

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"I'm never gonna be rich. But I do this because I love it."

Ever wondered what it's like working inside an art museum? On this episode, 2:42 marathoner and Olympic Marathon Trials runner Danae Dracht takes us all inside the J. Paul Getty Museum in Los Angeles, where she works as an archivist and cataloger. It's Danae's job to catalog artists' monographs and exhibition catalogs that have been published in multiple languages. (And no, she's not multilingual — but she explains how she makes sense of it all!) Danae explains what her job in information science entails, how she's making it work from home during the pandemic, and how she got the job at the Getty.

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Published 2020-11-02

300. What's New With You with Sara Hall

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"I was just telling myself, you've never been more ready."

It was the kick seen 'round the world — and on this episode, we get to hear all about it! Today, Sara Hall is here, talking about her amazing finish at this year's unique London Marathon. Sara came in second place during the elite-only race, finishing in a personal best time of 2:22.01. Sara first appeared on Episode 144 of the Ali on the Run Show with her husband (and coach!), Ryan, and this time around, she's offering updates on her training, her next race (The Marathon Project in December!), her family, and what it was really like being in "the bubble" in London.

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Published 2020-10-29

299. Feel-Good Friday with Jenny Gaither, SoulCycle Instructor

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"Someone's either a drain or a fountain. Start focusing on your fountains."

Need a confidence boost? Not sure where to start? Perfect: You're in the right place! That's what Jenny Gaither does for a living. She's a confidence coach, founder of The Movemeant Foundation, creator of the Dare to Bare event, and a longtime SoulCycle instructor. On this episode, Jenny talks about learning to feel vulnerable when she's teaching, she advises on how to deal with toxic relationships (drains vs. fountains!), and she explains how to get started on your own journey to self-confidence.

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Published 2020-10-28

298. Amanda Basham, Professional Ultra Runner

61 min
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"You just have to keep going. Eventually things are going to be better."

You probably know exactly who Amanda Basham is, even if you don't realize you know who she is: She's the fiery-red-haired professional ultra runner and endurance coach who has raced all over the world at some of running's most prestigious and most grueling events, including Western States, the TransRockies Run, and World's Toughest Mudder. In 2015 — her first year as a pro — she won the 50-mile USATF Trail Championships race. Not a bad start to a pro career. (Amanda is currently sponsored by Rabbit and Altra.) Right now, Amanda is training for a different kind of endurance sport: She's 27 weeks pregnant! On this episode, Amanda talks about how pregnancy is going, and shares whether or not she always knew she wanted to be a mom. She talks about meeting now-boyfriend Justin Grunewald, and talks about love after loss — including how losing her brother two years ago to a drug overdose has shaped her life and her relationships.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • Amanda talks about how she's feeling at 27 weeks pregnant (2:45)
  • Amanda shares the story of how she and Justin Grunewald met (10:45)
  • On navigating love after loss (16:30)
  • Did Amanda always know she wanted to be a mom? (23:30)
  • How Amanda found running (25:30)
  • Amanda talks about her history with an eating disorder (29:30)
  • On becoming a professional runner (36:45)

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Published 2020-10-26

297. On the Job with Elyse Garza, Flight Attendant

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"You know within your first six months whether it's a lifestyle that you want to commit to."

When 3:14 marathoner Elyse Garza isn't logging miles on the ground, she's getting them in the air. As a flight attendant for Alaska Airlines, Elyse says she's "living her dream" right now. On this episode, she talks about how she became a flight attendant, explains her ever-changing travel schedule, shares whether she's ever had to use the inflatable slide, and dishes about her biggest passenger pet peeves. (Hint: Stop poking the flight attendants!) Elyse lives in Sacramento, CA, is based out of San Francisco International Airport, and, fun fact, is afraid of heights!

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Julia Harrington on Episode 227 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Published 2020-10-25

296. What's New With You with Alexi Pappas

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"What grand treehouse can we make out of this wonderful pile of leaves and sticks that we're given?"

Alexi Pappas — who first appeared on Episode 163 of the Ali on the Run Show — is so much more than "just" a runner. She's a professional middle-distance runner turned marathoner: Alexi made her 26.2-mile debut at the 2018 Chicago Marathon, and ran her second marathon earlier this year in Houston, finishing in 2:34, which earned her a nine-minute PR and 10th place for the day, and was just one minute off the Greek national record. She's an award-winning writer and filmmaker: Alexi co-wrote, co-directed, and co-starred in Tracktown, and most recently co-wrote and starred in Olympic Dreams, the first non-documentary-style movie to be filmed at the Olympic Games. And now, she's a published author: Alexi's book, Bravey: Chasing Dreams, Befriending Pain, and other Big Ideas, is now available for pre-order. On this episode, Alexi talks about how her mom dying by suicide when Alexi was just four years old has shaped the most formative years of her life. She talks about forming a friendship with actor and comedian Maya Rudolph, and shares the crazy story of how she got stuck in Greece for five months during the pandemic. Plus, Alexi offers exciting updates about the two films and the television show she has in the works.

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Pre-order Bravey!

Shalane Flanagan on Episode 242 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Published 2020-10-22

295. Feel-Good Friday with Charlee Atkins, Creator of Le Sweat TV

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"If you have a voice and you can use it to help somebody else, then by golly, use it."

For three full years, trainer Charlee Atkins — now the founder of the wildly popular workout app and digital platform Le Sweat TV — had to seriously psych herself up to teach indoor cycling classes every day. When you're a fitness instructor, you have to show up as your best self every time for your students. But what about when you're just not feeling it? On this edition of Feel-Good Fridays, Charlee talks about how she used to psych herself up, and what she's done to make sure she never needs to fake it until she makes it again. She offers advice for finding motivation when it's lacking, opens up about her own insecurities, and talks about how being bullied as a kid has helped her become a better, stronger person. Plus, tips for how to better communicate in our new all-digital-all-the-time world.

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Published 2020-10-21

294. Nikki Hiltz

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"I used to think being vulnerable or authentic was weakness. Like, 'Oh, don't show that, don't share your weaknesses.' And then it's like, wait a second, it's the opposite. It takes great strength and bravery to live an authentic life."

Nikki Hiltz returns to the Ali on the Run Show! This time around, Nikki — a professional 1500m runner for adidas — talks about her decision to prioritize her mental health this year instead of focusing on the track, and talks about what it means to her to be authentic. She reflects on her hugely successful Golden Coast Track Club Virtual Pride 5K, and talks about the impact of watching members of the LGBTQ+ community using that race to come out to their loved ones. Plus, Nikki explains her decision to leave Golden Coast Track Club, offers an update on her new coach, and tells us all about her girlfriend, fellow runner Emma Gee.

What you'll get on this episode:

  • Nikki shares an update on her team affiliation and her coaching (3:25)
  • Nikki's decision to prioritize her mental health this year (6:30)
  • Why Nikki loves the person she is becoming (17:15)
  • On authenticity (19:45)
  • Reflecting on the Golden Coast Track Club 5K (22:00)
  • All about Emma Gee, Nikki's girlfriend (30:00)
  • Why Nikki is so passionate about getting people registered to vote (36:30)
  • How will Nikki know when it's time to step back on the track? (38:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Nikki on Episode 188 of the Ali on the Run Show

Nikki on Episode 170 of the Ali on the Run Show

Ten Percent Happier

The Trevor Project

Myers-Briggs test (I'm ESFJ — The Consul!)

The 5 Love Languages (I'm words of affirmation!)

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Published 2020-10-19

293. On the Job with Dr. Monica Verduzco-Gutierrez, Covid-19 Rehabilitation Doctor

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"It was important for me to pursue this dream and make it happen. I have this belief of, you can't be what you can't see. So if other young girls are not seeing women as leaders and women as physicians and women in high positions and important jobs, they may not think they can be there. That made it extra important for me to continue to pursue this dream."

Every day, we are bombarded with news about the Covid-19 pandemic. But an important part of that conversation that is often missing is, "What happens after I get Covid?" Dr. Monica Verduzco-Gutierrez is here to answer that critical question. Dr. Verduzco-Gutierrez is the Professor and Chair of the Department of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation at the Long School of Medicine at UT Health San Antonio, and she has developed a post-Covid recovery clinic to aid in the rehabilitative recovery of patients who have functional, mobility, and cognitive deficits after getting infected with the coronavirus. On this episode, Dr. Verduzco-Gutierrez — who is a two-time Boston Marathoner and mom of two — talks about her lifelong passion for medicine and for taking care of people. She discusses the very small number of Hispanic women in medicine, and explains what it means to her to be a role model in the field.

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Published 2020-10-18

292. What's New With You with Alison Désir

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"I'm an ideas person — but I'm also a doer."

Alison Désir was one of the very first guests on the Ali on the Run Show. She first appeared on Episode 3, and in the three years since she was on this podcast, Alison, who is a mental health coach and is the founder of Harlem Run, has accomplished so much, changed the world in so many ways, and has become an incredibly important voice in the running community. On this episode, Alison offers updates on all facets of her life, including becoming a mother to her son, Kouri, last year; what her pregnancy, childbirth experience, and postpartum experiences were like; and what it has been like being a tireless activist, advocate, and fighter for social justice and human rights. She talks about being sponsored by Hoka One One and Oiselle, and offers updates on the Womxn Run the Vote Relay, during which 10,000 participants raised $300,000 for Black Voters Matter, and her own Meaning Thru Movement virtual tour. Plus, Alison shares an exciting announcement about her next great project!

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What we mention on this episode:

Alison Désir On Pregnancy and New Motherhood Vs. Reality

"Ahmaud Arbery and Whiteness in the Running World," by Alison Désir for Outside Magazine

Running Industry Diversity Coalition

Runningdiversity.com/goals

"How to Make Running Deaf-Accessible" for Runner's World

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Published 2020-10-15

291. Feel-Good Friday with Bethany Lyons, Owner of Lyons Den Power Yoga

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"I've had moments of exhaustion. I've had moments of frustration. I've had an overhaul across the board, personally and professionally. This year has been a rinse. If I was naming this chapter, it's 'Let it burn and reset.' And instead of fighting all these things that are literally burning or closing down or going away or having an 'I'm so over this attitude,' I've tried to embrace every letdown, every frustration, everything that's popped up."

Welcome back to Feel-Good Fridays on the Ali on the Run Show! This time around, we're getting a series of pep talks from the people who are living, breathing pep talks every day of their lives: professional fitness instructors. First up, Bethany Lyons, owner of Lyons Den Power Yoga in New York City and creator of the newly launched Lyons Den Digital platform, talks about how, in spite of what has in many ways been the worst year ever, is thriving. In February, one of Bethany's two studio locations burned down in a fire. In March, she had to close the other location due to the pandemic. Now, in October, both are still closed. Here, Bethany explains how she's pivoted, how she's found the humor in it all, and how she's managed to have a whole lot of fun along the way. She offers advice for staying present, and hands out some tools for how we can all be our best selves today — even if it feels like the world is burning.

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Published 2020-10-14

290. Christine Yu, Sports Journalist

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"I'm Chinese American. My parents emigrated here from Hong Kong for college. And stereotypical as it may be, it was like, you could be a doctor, you could be a lawyer, maybe you could go into business. That was my conception of what the possibilities were for your career, for most of my life growing up. Writing never entered into my mind."

Christine Yu is an award-winning freelance journalist who covers sports, science, and women's health. She's a leading voice in the industry, and is a regular contributor for Runner's World, Women's Running, Outside Magazine, The Washington Post, Well+Good, Women's Health, and more. And soon, she'll officially be a published book author! Christine signed a book deal earlier this year, and is now hard at work on her book about the science behind women in sports, which will be out next year. On this episode, Christine talks about her writing process and about why she's passionate about diving into "taboo topics" instead of avoiding them. Christine lives in Brooklyn with her husband and two sons.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • All about Christine's new book! (5:00)
  • How Christine got her start as a journalist (21:30)
  • Christine shares her running story (48:25)

Stuff we mention on this episode:

"The Biggest Wave Surfed This Year" via The New York Times

"Women Deserve to Run Without Fear," by Christine Yu for Runner's World

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Published 2020-10-12

289. On the Job with Michelle La Sala, Race Director

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"I am a believer in opportunity."

It's been a tough year for so many brands, individuals, and industries, and within the running industry, race companies have been hit particularly hard. On this episode, Michelle La Sala, president and founder of Blistering Pace Race Management, talks about her road to race directing, and explains how the pandemic has affected her business, which specializes in managing large-scale mass participation running events. Michelle's clients include the New York City Marathon, Chicago Marathon, Big Sur International Marathon, and Napa Valley Marathon. Previously, she was race director for the California International Marathon (CIM) and was the volunteer coordinator for the L.A. Marathon. Michelle, a 31-time marathoner with a 2:59 personal best time, talks about what she's doing to stay afloat right now, and offers her take on how we can all support our favorite races right now.

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Published 2020-10-11

288. What's New With You with Chris Mosier

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"Doing the right thing is always the right thing."

Episode 13 of the Ali on the Run Show had a massive impact — one that hasn't slowed in the more than three years since that must-listen episode aired. Today, Episode 13's Chris Mosier, the transgender Hall of Fame triathlete and duathlete whom The BBC and New York Magazine called "the man who changed the Olympics," returns to the show to catch up on what he's been up to since we recorded that conversation. Chris talks about the progress we've made regarding transgender rights, and addresses the steps we've taken in the wrong direction. He also talks about his foray into race-walking, and shares what it was like competing at the race-walking Olympic Trials earlier this year.

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Chris Mosier on the Rich Roll Podcast

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Published 2020-10-07

287. Sue Fortier, Breast Cancer Survivor

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"I ran out of anger. I ran because cancer was trying to stop me."

In honor of October being Breast Cancer Awareness Month, today's guest is Sue Fortier: an Ali on the Run Show listener, a mom of two, and a breast cancer survivor. On this episode, Sue shares her cancer story, which began when she was 37 and was training for two fall marathons. She felt some pain in her breast, which turned out to be breast cancer. Her life was immediately and forever changed. Sue, who works as a visiting nurse, underwent 16 weeks of chemotherapy treatment, followed by 25 rounds of radiation — a time she refers to as the most traumatic of her life. She talks about how and why she kept running through her treatment, and explains how her relationship with running and with her body have changed since her diagnosis.

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Published 2020-10-05

286. On the Job with Kimberly Kincaid, Romance Novelist

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"I think everybody needs a good happily ever after."

Welcome to Season 3 of the On the Job series! We're kicking things off this season with some love, lust, and intrigue: with USA Today best-selling romance novelist Kimberly Kincaid! In this conversation, Kimberly offers a peek at what it's like working in the billion-dollar romantic fiction industry. She talks about where she gets her inspiration (beware if you're in line in front of her at Starbucks!), about getting more than 100 rejections on the road to getting published, and about why scripting strong heroines is a must in her novels. And of course, she talks about what it's like writing steamy scenes and scintillating love stories for a living. Kimberly is currently working on her 32nd book.

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Published 2020-10-05

285. What's New With You with Carolyn Su

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"Real change is going to take time."

Carolyn Su — the creator of @diversewerun — returns to the Ali on the Run Show today for the What's New With You series. Carolyn first appeared on Episode 140 of the show, to talk about her own running story and to share why she created Diverse We Run. Today, she's back with updates on how the account is grown, and on how she's used her own voice over the past year. Carolyn is doing important work to help further the conversation about race within the running community, and she has deservedly been featured in Runner's World and on several other running podcasts.

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Published 2020-09-30

284. Cory McGee

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"There's an excitement to each of the races for sure, and it's great to see your times and know you've run your fastest 800 or mile, and that's huge. That always feels good… But I definitely don't feel the same pride. It's different."

Cory McGee is a professional runner for New Balance. She specializes in the 1500m distance, and lives in Boulder, CO, where she trains with "Team Boss," under the coaching of Joe Bosshard and alongside powerhouse women including Emma Coburn, Aisha Praught Leer, and Laura Thweatt. Despite 2020 playing out in a way no one intended or planned for, Cory is still having a fast year on the run. In a series of intra-squad competitions and small meets, she has run personal bests and broken records. But on this episode, she gets honest about whether those races carry the same weight and the same amount of pride as "regular" races. She also talks about her earliest days as a runner (including fun stories from her time living in Athens during the 2004 Olympics, when her dad was working security with the FBI), and talks about last year's disqualification at the USATF Outdoor Championships.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • Cory talks about being at the 2004 Olympic Games in Athens, and how that impacted her life and career (3:40)
  • Running for fun vs. the desire to win (12:15)
  • Focusing on the present vs. the future (20:50)
  • On getting sponsored by New Balance (23:30)
  • Why Cory decided to move to Boulder and to join Team Boss (31:00)
  • Cory talks about getting disqualified at last year's USATF Outdoor Championships (44:20)
  • All about racing in 2020 (51:30)
  • "Cory Ann, the woman with the plan," talks about what's next (1:03.00)

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Published 2020-09-27

283. What's New With You with Beatie Deutsch

36 min
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"When I ran that 2:32 in January, it really made me realize that 'dream big' is not just dream big, it's dream huge, because you have no idea of what you're capable of."

Speedy Beatie is back on the Ali on the Run Show this week! Beatie Deutsch is a 2:32 marathoner and mother of five who made her Ali on the Run Show debut on Episode 158. This time around, we're catching up with Israel's National Marathon Champion to find out how she shaved 10 minutes off her marathon time, and to learn more about her calls to the International Olympic Committee to change the date of the 2021 Olympic Marathon so it doesn't fall on the Sabbath. She offers an update on her goal to represent Israel in the Olympics, and talks about what the pandemic has been like in Israel.

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Published 2020-09-23

282. Andrea Wagner, 52-Time Marathoner

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"I was in a world I could never have imagined — and I completely broke."

Andrea Wagner had a meteoric rise to running success. She first leaned into running to cope with the stress of working at the Pentagon in the wake of the September 11 attacks in 2001. She ran her first marathon with a one-and-done mindset, finishing in 4:35 and insisting she would never do it again. (Famous last words!) More than a decade later, Andrea was a mom of two in a bad marriage, again turning to running to cope. She ran more marathons — but this time around, she was winning them. In 2014, she won the Rock N Roll New Orleans Marathon, and then went on to finish the Chicago Marathon in 2:41, earning herself an Olympic Trials qualifying time. She signed with Oiselle. She garnered the strength to leave her marriage after 10 years. And then, she lined up at the start of the 2016 Olympic Marathon Trials. But after 14 miles, she stopped running. She was done. Done with that race, and done running competitively. On this episode, Andrea, who lives in San Antonio, TX, talks about life after elite running, about finding strength from within, and about discovering your self worth.

What you'll get on this episode:

  • How Andrea got started on the run, and how the September 11, 2011, terrorist attacks played a role in her running story (5:00)
  • What has kept Andrea running? (14:00)
  • Andrea talks about the challenges she faced after becoming a mom (18:30)
  • What did it take to go from a 4:35 marathon to a 2:41? (24:30)
  • On the addiction of constant progress, and a breakdown during the 2015 Boston Marathon (33:50)
  • On external pressure, and what happened during the 2016 Olympic Marathon Trials (50:30)

Stuff we mention on this episode:

Running Unbroken

Race Against Time

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Published 2020-09-20

281. What's New With You with Rachel Wyman

55 min
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"I've never been so tired in my life. No amount of having babies or opening businesses or anything set me up for this. Those first three months, I've never experienced anything so difficult in my entire life. But I just kept going."

Welcome to the What's New With You series on the Ali on the Run Show! For the next six weeks, I'll be catching up with past guests to see what they've been up to since the last time we talked. And we're kicking things off with the indomitable Rachel Wyman! Rachel first appeared on Episode 166 of the show, where she talked about her life as a bread baker, single mom of three, owner of Montclair Bread Company, and race director for two of New Jersey's most popular races. On this episode, Rachel offers an update about what life for a small business owner has been like during the pandemic, and reflects on the bike accident that shattered her pelvis, and how far she's come in the two years since the accident. (Spoiler: She ran a marathon last fall and earned a Boston Qualifying time!)

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What we mention on this episode:

Let Your Mind Run by Deena Kastor

How Bad Do You Want It? by Matt Fitzgerald

Meb Keflezighi on Episode 175 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Published 2020-09-16

280. Aisha Qamar, 3:02 Marathoner, Activist, & South Brooklyn Mutual Aid Volunteer

79 min
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"I keep showing up so that people know that a Pakistani Muslim woman can be a marathoner. But just because I am there doesn't mean the work is done."

Aisha Qamar cares deeply about her community and the people around her. She earned her master's in public health at Columbia University, and has used that degree to learn more about and to give back to people in need. She volunteers with South Brooklyn Mutual Aid, delivering food to her neighbors in New York City, and on this episode, Aisha explains how delivering supplies on the run has brought meaning back to her running during the pandemic. She talks about finding her people and making friends when she didn't think she belonged in the running community, and she talks about being a Muslim woman, and explains what running looks like when she is fasting during Ramadan. Aisha is on the Global Womxn Run Collective steering committee, she runs a 3:02 marathon, and she is on a mission to make sure every runner knows that you do, in fact, belong.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • Aisha's take on the global pandemic, from someone with a master's in public health (4:00)
  • Aisha talks about what her family was like growing up (8:40)
  • All about Aisha's job, and her career path in healthcare (15:00)
  • Aisha shares her running story (23:30)
  • How Aisha found running friends, and how she went from a 3:53 marathon to a 3:02 (32:10)
  • On running the L.A. Marathon earlier this year (41:30)
  • Running with purpose (47:00)
  • How Aisha got involved with South Brooklyn Mutual Aid (51:25)
  • How Aisha sees her role in helping work toward more diversity and representation in running (1:02.00)
  • The role religion plays in Aisha's life right now (1:05.00)

What we mention on this episode:

South Brooklyn Mutual Aid

Global Womxn Run Collective

Banker to the Poor

Mountains Beyond Mountains

"Food, Clothing, Shelter: These NYC Runners Are Helping Their Neighbors Survive," by Cindy Kuzma for Runner's World

Whitney Hu on Twitter @whitney_hu

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Published 2020-09-09

279. Justin Grunewald

69 min
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"I think the biggest thing with grief is knowing that some days you're gonna be drowning and unable to breathe, and I think I've had 12- to 24-hour cry-fests where you literally feel like you're going to suffocate or die of dehydration. But it does end eventually. And then you take that deep breath and drink a glass of water and look outside and the world is still there. And you can keep going. Just having the hope to keep going is the most important."

Justin Grunewald is a doctor, ultra runner, and avid chaser of FKTs. He's happiest running up mountains in pursuit of running the fastest known time on any given trail. (So far in 2020, Justin has run more than 15 FKTs — two of which he did since we recorded this episode!) In addition to his many accomplishments, both professionally and on the run, Justin is perhaps best known as husband to the late Gabe Grunewald, who passed away last year after a long and arduous battle with adenoid cystic carcinoma, a rare cancer. On this episode, Justin shares what he's learned about grief, and how he finds hope even when life feels particularly hard. He talks about feeling joy amidst pain, crying happy tears alongside sad ones, and about finding love after loss. Justin opens up about meeting Amanda Basham, and reveals some big news on their behalf.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • What's making Justin happy right now? And where is he living? Plus what it's been like working in a hospital during the past seven months (3:35)
  • How Justin met Gabe (16:25)
  • How Justin held onto hope as Gabe's health worsened (18:50)
  • What the final days of Gabe's life were like for Justin, and why he chose to share so much on social media during that time (26:40)
  • What Justin has learned about grief, and how he's learned "not to sweat the small stuff" (33:30)
  • On "going public" about his relationship with Amanda Basham (40:55)
  • Taylor Swift talk! (58:25)
  • Justin pops in with some "wild and crazy news" (1:00.48)

Stuff we mention on this episode:

Gabe Grunewald on Episode 62 of the Ali on the Run Show

Brave Like Gabe Foundation

Ladia Albertson-Junkans on Episode 178 of the Ali on the Run Show

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278. Ali & the Experts with Dr. Nicole Detling, Mental Performance Coach

77 min
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"Motivation is great when it's there, but at the end of the day, it's all about commitment."

Dr. Detling is back! I'm thrilled to wrap up the Ali & the Experts series with returning favorite Dr. Nicole Detling, mental performance coach and founder of Headstrong Consulting. Dr. Detling has a PhD in exercise and sports science with an emphasis in sports psychology, is the author of Don't Leave Your Mind Behind, and hosts the Becoming HeadStrong podcast. On this episode, Dr. Detling — who works with top athletes, Olympians, artists, and sports teams — answers listener questions about injuries, comebacks, emotions on the run, and how to prepare for race day.

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Published 2020-09-03

277. Ben Chan, Ultra Runner & Activist

75 min
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"If I want things to change, I have to keep on fighting. But I can't be the only one."

If you've ever run a race in New York City, you know Ben Chan. He's the "leopard print short-shorts and cowboy hat guy," and he's a staple on the NYC running scene. On this episode, in addition to talking about his on-the-run fashion choices, Ben shares the story of how he found running at age 30, by way of donating a kidney to a friend in need. And Ben talks about his firsthand experiences with racism, many of which he's experienced recently, and on the run. Ben talks about being the son of immigrants and grandson of refugees, and offers his perspective on what it means to create "safe spaces" and "escapes" by way of running.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • All about those amazing running outfits (6:30)
  • How Ben got started running — and how donating a kidney factored in (19:00)
  • Ben talks about his firsthand experiences with racism, both within the running community and beyond (27:30)
  • Why does Ben keep showing up? (51:30)

Stuff we mention on this episode:

The Years of Lyndon Johnson, by Robert Caro

April Cargill on Episode 148 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Published 2020-09-01

276. Ali & the Experts with Mandi Woodruff, Personal Finance Expert

103 min
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"Let's talk about our deepest and darkest fears around money."

This week on Ali & the Experts, we're talking money with Mandi! Mandi Woodruff is the senior content director at Lending Tree, and is co-host of the Brown Ambition podcast. She worked as an editor and reporter on the personal finance beat at Business Insider and Yahoo Finance, and hosted both The Money Minute and The Payoff weekly web series. Plus, she's been featured as an expert guest on Good Morning America, ABC News Tonight, CBS This Morning, NY1, and more. On this episode, Mandi answers listener questions about investing, buying a home, saving, student loans, and emotions around money.

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275. Rolanda Bell, Elite Runner

78 min
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"You know when you're not done yet. There were goals I wanted to accomplish, and I knew they were still in me. I just needed to keep going and see what I could do."

In 2015, Rolanda Bell was living the dream. She had graduated from the University of Tennessee, where she was a member of the historic 2009 Women's 4x1500m relay team alongside Chanelle Price, Phoebe Wright, and Sarah Bowman. Together, they broke the existing Penn Relays, National Collegiate, American, and world records — several of which still stand, 11 years later. She went on to run professionally representing Panama — a lifelong dream. But at the 2015 World Athletics Championship in Beijing, Rolanda was competing in the 3000m steeplechase when she went over the water barrier, and landed face-first on the way down. On this episode, Rolanda, who works in marketing for Hoka One One, talks about falling in love with running, going pro, and getting back up and finishing that race in Beijing. She talks about bouncing back, training with the NorCal Distance Project, and why, even after a career as a professional middle-distance athlete, she felt pressure to run a marathon. (Rolanda runs a 4:38 indoor mile, a 1:16 half marathon, and ran a 2:49 in her marathon debut.) She also talks about her experiences with racism living in New York City.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • Why Rolanda felt "pressure" to run a marathon (5:45)
  • How Rolanda got started on the run (9:15)
  • Why Rolanda decided to keep running after college (22:15)
  • Rolanda reflects on that "traumatizing" race at the 2015 World Athletics Championships in Beijing (26:00)
  • What life as a pro athlete with NorCal Distance looked like, and why Rolanda decided to move back to New York (41:00)
  • On finding "balance" when you work in the running industry (49:00)
  • On attending the "All Crews One Run" in NYC earlier this summer, and Roland shares her own experiences with racism (56:00)

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Published 2020-08-24

274. Ali & the Experts with Kaitlin Goodman, Running Coach

63 min
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"Running isn't canceled! You can still be improving during this time."

Kaitlin Goodman is a 2:32 marathoner and four-time Olympic Trials qualifier who runs professionally for the Boston Athletic Association and adidas. Kaitlin — a frequent Ali on the Run Show guest and fan favorite — is incredibly versatile on the run. She has qualified for the Olympic Trials four times — in three different distances! (The 5K, 10K, and marathon.) And she's a running coach with a master's in public health. Kaitlin is the founder of Running Joyfully, where she coaches runners of all abilities. She's also the founder of Safe on the Road, a nonprofit education and advocacy organization that promotes pedestrian and cyclist safety.

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Published 2020-08-19

273. Emily Halnon, Fastest Known Runner on the Oregon Pacific Crest Trail

75 min
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"We as humans have the capacity to surprise ourselves with how much stronger we are than we think we are. You don't get to make those discoveries unless you do something that challenges you to probe that question: Can I do this? Am I capable of this?"

The last time Emily Halnon was here, she talked about her big, brave, bold goal: to run the fastest known time (FKT) on the Oregon Pacific Crest Trail. And spoiler: She did it! And now, Emily is back to talk about how she ran 453 miles in 7 days, 19 hours, and 23 minutes. Along the way, Emily also raised more than $30,000 for the Brave Like Gabe Foundation, in honor of her mother, Andrea — "AndyJHa" — who passed away in January after being diagnosed with a rare uterine cancer. And a warning: This conversation may inspire you to go out and set your own big, brave, bold goals!

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How Emily feels now, after running for eight days straight (3:00)
  • How Emily trained and prepared for this run (4:45)
  • On raising money for Brave Like Gabe (21:00)
  • Emily breaks down every day of the run (34:00)

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Published 2020-08-17

272. Ali & the Experts with Dr. Meggie Smith, OB-GYN & Infertility Specialist

62 min
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"Have those conversations with yourself. Figure out, 'What is it that I want? What is my goal, essentially?' Kind of like running. What is your goal?"

Dr. Meggie is back! This week on the Ali & the Experts series, Dr. Meggie Smith, Assistant Professor of Clinical Obstetrics and Gynecology at University of Southern California specializing in reproductive endocrinology and infertility, is here to answer listener questions about pregnancy, fertility, periods, birth control, and women's health during the Covid-19 era.

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Published 2020-08-12

271. Rebecca Mehra, Professional Middle-Distance Runner

72 min
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"I got to this point where I had to tell myself that I deserve to be there and I deserve to be on the starting line, and say, 'You are good enough, you've put in the work, you've put in the training.' My motto was 'Just give it a go.'"

Rebecca Mehra is a professional middle-distance runner for Oiselle's Little Wing team, where she's coached by Lauren Fleshman. Earlier this year, Rebecca became a household name when she Tweeted about helping an elderly couple grocery shop at the onset of the pandemic — and that story went viral. Rebecca is an incredibly talented runner, but her life off the track is as compelling as her fast 1500m times. When she's not running, Rebecca is involved in public policy: She's the special assistant to the mayor in Bend, OR, and is the campaign manager for two local candidates. On this episode, Rebecca talks about going pro, getting political, going viral, and growing up in a biracial family (she's the daughter of an Indian immigrant father and a Jewish mother from Long Island) in California.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • What it's like training with Lauren Fleshman, and how and why Rebecca joined Oiselle's Little Wing team (8:30)
  • On the idea of balance vs. going all-in (15:00)
  • What does it mean being special assistant to the mayor of Bend? (18:45)
  • Rebecca talks about her family, her childhood, and going viral earlier this year (24:40)
  • The full story behind Rebecca's recent blog post for Oiselle, and what it was like growing up biracial (37:30)
  • "The electrocution incident," and what Rebecca's running looks like right now (52:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Jenny Simpson on Episode 268 of the Ali on the Run Show

Elle Purrier on Episode 210 of the Ali on the Run Show

Lauren Fleshman on Episode 103 of the Ali on the Run Show

"Mixed + Passing — Let's Talk About Race," by Rebecca Mehra for Oiselle

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Published 2020-08-10

270. Ali & the Experts with Jess Thomas, Therapist

50 min
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"Our feelings are truly valid. Remember that the concerns that are leading to your struggles with anxiety and depression are valid and worthy of being talked about, gaining support, and being acknowledged."

Raise your hand if you're feeling anxious! (Mine are both raised.) Then you've come to the right place. On this episode — the second in the six-part Ali & the Experts series — NYC-based therapist Jess Thomas is here to answer listener questions about anxiety, depression, perfectionism, quarantine dating, and how to handle life during a pandemic. Jess, who is part of the Viva Wellness team, also talks about being new to therapy, and debunks all kinds of common mental health myths.

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Published 2020-08-06

269. Ali & the Experts with Laura Parrott, Career Coach

64 min
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"Looking for technical solutions to people problems doesn't work."

Welcome to the Ali & the Experts series! For the next six weeks, I'll be talking with six different experts who will be answering all of your questions. We're kicking things off today with a major career pep talk, courtesy of Laura Parrott. Laura, who lives in Detroit, MI, is currently the Head of People at Floyd. Before that, she spent eight years leading recruiting work at McKinsey, seven years working in people management and leadership development at Google, and, most recently, she was the lead for manager development programming at Hubspot. Laura is also a fitness instructor and is the founder of her own coaching company. On this episode, she answers questions about people challenges at work, including dealing with a difficult boss, networking during a pandemic, being laid off, and getting back into the workforce after taking time off to have children. A must-listen!

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Published 2020-08-05

268. Jenny Simpson

75 min
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"There's always someone gunning for that spot. And if you're off your game at all, they're going to take it."

Jenny Simpson is the country's most-decorated female miler and 1500-meter runner. Case in point: She's a three-time Olympian, she won gold in the 1500 at the 2011 World Championships, she was the first U.S. woman to win an Olympic medal in the 1500 when she won bronze in Rio in 2016, and she's a two-time world silver medalist. She has won the Fifth Avenue Mile eight times, and her personal bests include a 3:57.22 1500 and a 4:16.1 road mile. On this episode, Jenny talks about how she and her husband Jason have been spending quarantine. She shares her thoughts on retirement (someday!), having a baby (someday!), and "waiting to be slow" (which may never happen!). But mostly, we talk about Truman, the dog Jenny and Jason adopted once the lockdowns started.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • All about Truman! (4:30)
  • What life has looked like for Jenny during the pandemic (9:55)
  • What do Jenny's easy days look like? (16:00)
  • Jenny's thoughts on the Olympics right now (18:30)
  • How do you know when to retire? (23:55)
  • Which runners are Jenny's eyes on? (30:00)
  • Jenny's advice for running a fast mile (39:00)
  • What are Jenny's sponsor obligations right now? (45:00)
  • Jenny talks about cheering for her husband, Jason, at the U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials in February (51:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Jenny Simpson on Episode 96 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Published 2020-07-29

267. Catching Up with Emily Halnon

63 min
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"There's this possibility to live with this duality of life. You can both grieve and have a really, truly happy day. You can be really stressed and scared, and also be extraordinarily brave."

In January, the world truly lost one of the greatest lights and coolest women on the planet: Andrea Halnon, or as she's known around here, "AndyJHa." Emily Halnon was the very first guest on the Ali on the Run Show, and is one of my dear friends, and when her mom passed away after a 13-month battle with a rare uterine cancer, it was devastating. On this episode, Emily returns to the show to graciously and openly talk about her badass mom's amazing legacy, and what the grief process is like. She also talks about how she'll be bravely and boldly honoring that legacy starting this Saturday: By running 453 miles across the state of Oregon, from the California border to Washington, in an attempt to run the Fastest Known Time (FKT) on the Pacific Crest Trail. In doing so, Emily is also raising money for the Brave Like Gabe Foundation, which supports rare cancer research. CLICK HERE TO DONATE. Let's see if we can get Emily to $10K by the time she reaches Washington! This one's for you, AndyJHa. We love you.

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What we mention on this episode:

Chris Heuisler on Episode 265 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily Halnon on Episode 1 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emily Halnon on Episode 85 of the Ali on the Run Show

Brave Like Gabe Foundation

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Published 2020-07-26

266. On the Record with Mario Fraioli, Host of The Morning Shakeout

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"I won't use my voice unless I can back up whatever argument I'm trying to make. But I've gotten increasingly more comfortable putting myself in those situations and taking a stance on something and then being able to back it up, whether it's systemic racism, whether it's diversity in the sport, whether it's how we should be handling the pandemic right now as runners. We all have thoughts on those things. A lot of us are afraid to share those thoughts. Not all of us have platforms where we can share those thoughts and have it have an impact, and I am very cognizant of the fact that I do, and I want to make sure I'm using my platform for good in those ways and spurring up healthy conversation and debate."

Today, we wrap up the On the Record series with Mario Fraioli, host of The Morning Shakeout podcast and creator of The Morning Shakeout newsletter. Mario comes to podcasting with a background in journalism: He's a longtime sports writer and was the editor of Competitor magazine. On this episode, Mario talks about taking that journalistic approach when it comes to having conversations with running's top athletes, and opens up about getting comfortable taking a stance and using his voice. And he explains why sometimes, you have to let the silence do the work.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How and why Mario got into podcasting (11:00)
  • How Mario prepares for his interviews (18:40)
  • What's on Mario's mind right now? (29:00)
  • On choosing guests for The Morning Shakeout (35:50)
  • Mario shares his dream-come-true moments (43:00)
  • On speaking out (53:50)

What we mention on this episode:

Ali Feller on The Morning Shakeout

Subscribe to The Morning Shakeout newsletter

Tommy Rivers Puzey GoFundMe

"Interview: Mebrahtom Keflezighi," by Mario Fraioli for mensracing.com

"Retraction Reaction," by Mario Fraioli

Erin Strout on Episode 73 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Published 2020-07-22

265. Catching Up with Chris Heuisler

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"That's what I have now: I have hope."

A lot has changed for Chris Heuisler since the last time he was on the Ali on the Run Show. He turned 40! He's no longer the Global RunWestin Concierge. And he got sober. On this episode, Chris — for the first time publicly — talks about his past with alcoholism, and his journey to sobriety. (SO PROUD OF YOU, CHRIS.)

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What we mention on this episode:

Chris Heuisler, National Run Concierge for Westin Hotels

Chris Heuisler's Most Embarrassing Running Moment!

Ali on the Run Show LIVE! Featuring Meb Keflezighi, Andrea Barber, Chris Heuisler, and Des Linden

Des Linden on Finding Mastery

Catching Up with Andrea Barber

Andrea Barber AKA Full House's Kimmy Gibbler

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Published 2020-07-19

264. On the Record with Dana Giordano, Host of More Than Running

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"What matters most to me is talking about athletes, especially female athletes, in the way that I would want someone to ask me questions. I want someone to respect me as a whole person and dig a little bit deeper and learn about who I am and what I have to give beyond the typical rote questions we hear over and over again."

Dana Giordano is a professional middle-distance runner for the B.A.A. and adidas. She's a 4:34 miler and 15:47 5K runner who ran track and cross-country at Dartmouth College and hopes to compete at the 2021 Olympic Track & Field Trials. In April, Dana added another line to her impressive resume: host of the More Than Running podcast. Dana enters the running podcast space with an inside look at the sport. On this episode, she talks about relatability on the track, inspiration on the run, and how she wants to see the industry improve. She also offers her take on how to make running more accessible, and talks about why it's so important to share women's stories and celebrate other women's successes.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How and why Dana decided to leave her corporate job to become a professional runner (4:00)
  • As a podcast host, what's matters most to Dana? (13:50)
  • How Dana sees her role in the running industry (27:00)
  • On choosing guests for the show (40:00)
  • What Dana's running looks like right now (56:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Chris Chavez on Episode 262 of the Ali on the Run Show

"Dana Giordano's Falmouth Run is For a Greater Cause," via Citius Mag

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Published 2020-07-15

263. Hawi Keflezighi, Founder & CEO of HAWI Management

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"I was nervous. But it was the kind of nervousness that really drove me to work as hard as possible, be as persistent as possible, and as thorough as possible."

Hawi Keflezighi is one of the greatest agents in running and track and field. As the founder and CEO of HAWI Management, Hawi and his team represent 30 athletes including Alexi Pappas, Nikki Hiltz, Aliphine Tuliamuk, and, of course, Hawi's brother, Meb Keflezighi. On this episode, Hawi talks about how — and why — he started his agency when he was still in law school, and explains what, exactly, agents do. He talks about being one of 11 siblings, and shares his family's story of emigrating from Eritrea to the United States. Hawi, who lives in Indianapolis with his wife and two kids, talks about what the American Dream means to him, and talks about why integrity is so important to him. There's a reason the Keflezighis are some of the best-loved people in sports, and this conversation is a perfect example of that.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How Hawi became an agent (5:00)
  • What exactly does an agent do? (14:10)
  • What it means to Hawi to lead with integrity (16:40)
  • What's the vibe among running agents like? (25:00)
  • Hawi reflects on the biggest days for his athletes (27:00)
  • On navigating floods of athlete media requests (41:00)
  • Reflecting on Aliphine Tuliamuk's win at the 2020 Olympic Marathon Trials, and what race day looks like from an agent's perspective (48:00)
  • What does the idea of the American Dream mean to Hawi? (53:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Ali on the Run Show LIVE! Featuring Meb Keflezighi, Andrea Barber, Chris Heuisler, and Des Linden

LIVE at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials with Carrie Tollefson, Meb Keflezighi, & UCAN

You Can Run a Marathon with Meb Keflezighi

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Published 2020-07-12

262. On the Record with Chris Chavez, Host of the Citius Mag and Runners of NYC Podcasts

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"Once you have enough of these uncomfortable conversations, you do start to pick up on new ways of going about it and asking different questions. It's never going to end. Being uncomfortable is just part of it, and you welcome it, and do it over and over and over again to get better."

Welcome to the second episode in the four-part "On the Record" series, talking with fellow running podcasters about their work, their takes on the state of the running industry, and their roles within it. We kicked things off last week with Alysia Montaño, Molly Huddle, and Roisin McGettigan-Dumas — the hosts off Keeping Track — and this week, Chris Chavez is here! In addition to being a full-time writer for Sports Illustrated, Chris is also the host of the Citius Mag podcast, and co-host of the Runners of NYC podcast (alongside former Ali on the Run Show guest Leigh Anne Sharek). He's an important, well-respected voice in the running community, and on this episode, Chris talks about what it means to be an influencer in the running space, explains how he decides who to feature on his shows, and reflects on what the future of the running industry and community might look like.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How Chris decides what to cover where (3:45)
  • Why podcasting? (11:30)
  • What does it mean to be an influencer in the running space? (16:00)
  • On deciding who to feature on the podcast (28:00)
  • Chris talks about his recent "Black Off the Track" piece for Sports Illustrated (37:00)
  • The future of the running industry and community (46:45)

What we mention on this episode:

The Sports Gene by David Epstein

Humans of New York

Henna Rustami on the Citius Mag podcast

"Black Off the Track," by Chris Chavez for Sports Illustrated

"Mary Cain Speaks Out Against Nike and Coach Alberto Salazar Over Emotional, Physical Abuse," by Chris Chavez for Sports Illustrated

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Published 2020-07-08

261. Jess Sims, Peloton Instructor

63 min
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"Stop negotiating with yourself. Be like a little kid again and jump into the pool. Don't stick your foot in to check out the temperature. Don't think you have to have the right bathing suit on. Jump in the pool."

It's safe to say Jess Sims is one of the most popular fitness instructors in the country. As a Peloton instructor, Jess is known for her no frills, no BS, no gimmick approach to working out. She's the real deal, and she's passionate about helping people feel their best every day. And though Jess says she never dreamed about being a fitness instructor, let alone a global superstar with a massive platform, being an educator has always come naturally to her. On this episode, Jess shares her road to Peloton fame, which started by teaching not in fitness studios, but in classrooms: Jess did Teach for America, and taught kids in Houston, Harlem, and Massachusetts. Jess also talks about the a-ha moment that led her from her role as a principal to one on the podium, and explains why, at first, she actually turned down the opportunity to teach at Peloton. Plus, she talks about growing up in Peabody, MA, in a biracial family, and offers her take on diversity in the fitness industry today.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • Did Young Jess plan for a future in the fitness industry? (4:15)
  • How Jess became a teacher (7:45)
  • How Jess broke into the fitness industry (16:15)
  • On getting hired at Peloton, and what life looks like as a Peloton instructor (20:00)
  • On both "personal branding" and diversity in the fitness industry (41:00)
  • What it means to Jess to "take up space" (47:20)

What we mention on this episode:

Teach For America

Rebecca Kennedy

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Published 2020-07-06

260. On the Job with United States Air Force Colonel Shelly Mendieta

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"It doesn't matter if I'm a man or a woman. It just matters how I do my job. That responsibility I'm given is based on how I've done in the past, and how well they think I'm going to do in the future."

Welcome to the final episode in the On the Job series! Today, we are wrapping things up with United States Air Force Colonel Shelly Mendieta, who is the Vice Wing Commander of the 39th Airbase Wing in Incirlik, Turkey. As the #2 in command, Col. Mendieta is responsible for more than 3,500 military, civilian, and contractor personnel on base. She's also a Weapons System Operator in the F-15E fighter plane, having logged more than 2,400 flight hours! On this episode, Col. Mendieta talks about what it's really like flying those planes — which women weren't even allowed to fly when she first enlisted in the Air Force — and what it's like serving the country and being stationed overseas. She also talks about how being a runner makes her better in the air, and shares her take on being a woman in the military.

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Published 2020-07-05

259. On the Record with the Hosts of Keeping Track

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"I'm not afraid to have the uncomfortable conversations. Does it mean I feel comfortable? No! And I need my allies. I need my friends to say what I've been saying." —Alysia Montaño

Welcome to the first episode in a new four-part series, where I'll be talking with fellow running podcast hosts about how they view the current state of the running industry and their roles within it. We're kicking things off with Alysia Montaño, Molly Huddle, and Roisin McGettigan-Dumas, the hosts of Keeping Track! As current and former professional athletes, these three incredibly accomplished women offer a unique lens on the sport. They are mothers, businesswomen, authors, and important voices in running and beyond. On this episode, we talk about how Keeping Track came to fruition, and discuss representation in the running community.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How Keeping Track came to fruition (9:10)
  • The hopes, dreams, plans, and goals of Keeping Track (13:10)
  • Reflecting on Keeping Track's "Representation in Running" episode, and the reactions to that conversation (21:15)
  • What does the future of the running industry look like? (41:40)
  • What are Molly, Ro, and Alysia's dreams for the running industry? (51:50)

What we mention on this episode:

A Message & A Promise From Ali

Molly Huddle on Episode 66 of the Ali on the Run Show

Molly Huddle on Episode 51 of the Ali on the Run Show

Feel-Good Fitness by Alysia Montaño

"Racing for Representation" via Keeping Track

&Mother

Believe & Compete Training Journals.

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Published 2020-07-02

258. Feel-Good Friday with Claudia Thompson, President of Claudia Connects

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"You're the one. If you want to do something...you're the one that's going to do it."

My greatest wish for my daughter is that she never lacks confidence. Some people are born with it, but for others, cultivating confidence takes work — it's like a muscle that has to be flexed repeatedly in order to get stronger. Claudia Thompson is the president of Claudia Connects, a personal and professional training, development, and networking events company, and on this episode, she shares all her best tips and tricks for building your own confidence. She shares her own confidence journey, reflecting on being a Black woman — her mom is from Jamaica and her dad is from Panama — in predominantly white spaces. She also talks about practicing vulnerability, and explains how confidence in life will help us all on the run.

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What we mention on this episode:

Rachel Wyman on Episode 166 of the Ali on the Run Show

Landmark Forum

Eloquent Rage by Brittney Cooper

Claudia's Facebook post

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Published 2020-07-01

257. Nutrition Q&A with Starla Garcia, Registered Dietitian

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"Sustainable changes happen over months of time. And there's nothing to be ashamed of it it takes you a long time. When you come out of it and you do the work and you're gentle on yourself and you're looking for progress over perfection, you're going to be so much happier because you got to know yourself so much better."

Starla Garcia is back on the Ali on the Run Show! Starla is a registered dietitian (and Olympic Marathon Trials runner!) and is the founder of The Healthy Shine, a sports nutrition consulting practice in Houston, TX. On this episode, Starla answers listener questions about nutrition, fueling on the run, sugar addictions, protein, disordered eating, and what she wants everyone to know and understand about fad diets and buzzwords like "keto," "intermittent fasting," and "macros."

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What we mention on this episode:

Starla Garcia on Episode 200 of the Ali on the Run Show

Evelyn Tribole on 10% Happier with Dan Harris

SmartyPants multivitamin

Picky Bars Performance Oats

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Published 2020-06-29

256. On the Job with Vikki Spruill, President & CEO of New England Aquarium

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"I loved science. I had a biology teacher who was a bit of a mentor of mine in high school and I said, 'I really think this is what I want to pursue!' And he said, 'There's actually not a place for women in science.' But I never lost sight of my passion."

When Vikki Spruill was growing up, she loved science and, in particular, ocean life. But she was told that "women didn't have a place in science." Today, Vikki is President & CEO of the New England Aquarium in Boston, MA, so it's safe to say she found her place in science. On this episode, Vikki talks about how she got the job and what her days are like, both before and during the ongoing Covid-19 pandemic. To date, the aquarium has been closed for 16 weeks, and Vikki talks about the plans they're putting into place for when the doors do reopen. Plus, she talks about what it's really like running a huge cultural institution that's home to 20,000 animals, 200 employees, and more than 1.5 million visitors every year.

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Published 2020-06-25

255. Ramblings on the Run with Ali & Matt

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Welcome to this month's edition of Ramblings on the Run with Ali and Matt. This month, Matt and I catch up and share how things are going on the run, and then we talk about what we're each loving and are excited about right now. Then, we do a twist on the On the Job series, asking each other questions about our respective careers in podcasting.

What we mention on this episode:

Don't Keep Your Day Job by Cathy Heller

"Influence in the Time of Social Injustice" via Be There in Five

Aliphine Tuliamuk on Instagram

Courtney Carter on Episode 251 of the Ali on the Run Show

The Mina Kimes Show

That's What She Said with Sarah Spain

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