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Every week on the Ali on the Run Show, I talk with inspiring people who lead interesting lives on the run and beyond. And while running is what brings us all together, on these episodes, we're digging a little deeper. These conversations are about the decisions people have made to get where they are today, and how getting sweaty has factored in. Whether you're on the run toward something great or away from something that's holding you back, join me on this never-ending adventure, and let's all pick up the pace together.
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Published 2020-06-25

254. Samia Akbar, Fastest U.S.-Born Black Female Marathoner

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"He made an assumption that I didn't speak English and that's why he didn't speak to me. I remember feeling so hurt. Things like that happened to me all the time, being the first and only to do a lot of these distance events on the road racing circuit. And I feel like it was so hurtful. We are the epitome of the American Dream."

A few weeks ago, Peyton Thomas was on the Ali on the Run Show. We talked about Peyton being the fourth-fastest U.S.-born Black female marathoner, which prompted the question: Who's the fastest? That person is Samia Akbar. In 2006, Samia ran a 2:34 at the New York City Marathon, finishing 12th and earning the aforementioned title, which still stands. On this episode, Samia shares her running story, including how her dad instilled in her a love for running, how she went to American University on a full running scholarship, and how she spent seven years as a professional runner sponsored by Reebok. Today, Samia lives in Virginia and is a Global Marketing Manager for New Balance.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • Samia explains why she lives in Virginia but works in Boston (3:40)
  • How Samia became a runner (9:00)
  • On being competitive (21:35)
  • What it means to "take up space," and how Samia learned to do that (22:45)
  • How Samia decided to become a professional runner (33:50)
  • Why Samia decided to run a marathon (45:20)
  • On being the fastest U.S.-born Black female marathoner (52:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Peyton Thomas on Episode 244 of the Ali on the Run Show

"A Conversation with Samia Akbar" via Fast Women

"The Undeniable Power of Sport" International Women's Day panel via Hurdle podcast

TedCorbitt.com

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Published 2020-06-22

253. On the Job with Steph Blozy, Owner of Fleet Feet Sports West Hartford

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"We are obviously a business and we need to sell running shoes to make money, but I feel a very big obligation to be that hub of the community and be that leader and driver to connect people and to help out others."

Steph Blozy is the owner of Fleet Feet Sports in West Hartford, one of the leading run specialty stores in the country. Steph is so much more than a running store owner, though: She's truly a community builder and leader, and on this episode, she talks about how she's built such a strong, supportive community in Connecticut. (Her "special sprinkle of magic," she calls it.) Steph's road to running store ownership wasn't a straight one: She got her start as a meteorologist! Click here to hear more from Steph and about how she's adapted during the pandemic both personally and on the job.

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Published 2020-06-18

252. Feel-Good Friday with Katie Burke, Chief People Officer at HubSpot

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"What opportunities does this open up that didn't exist before? How can I adapt my leadership style and how I show up to adapt to that opportunity? Rather than cringing and thinking about the worst case, think about the upside and opportunity that comes with this change."

If I could hire any human on this planet to be in charge of my life and make all my decisions for me, that person would, without a single doubt, be Katie Burke. Katie is the Chief People Officer at HubSpot, and is a returning favorite guest on the Ali on the Run Show. (Check out her first two episodes here and here.) On this episode, Katie offers advice for anyone who is thinking about life going "back to normal" — or finding a new normal — and might be struggling to figure out what comes next. Katie talks about how to find your passion, and what to do when you're faced with the overwhelming sense of wanting to change your life and change the world, but you're not sure where to start. Where do work and passion intersect? How can you stay in the present? How, exactly, should you attempt some soul searching? And what do you do when the comparison trap comes into play? So much good stuff here!

Feel-Good Fridays on the Ali on the Run Show are brought to you by UCAN. Click here and use code ONTHERUN25 for 25% off your first UCAN order. Returning UCAN fans can use code ONTHERUN for 15% off.

What we mention on this episode:

Untamed by Glennon Doyle

Oprah's SuperSoul Conversations with Tim Storey

"In Her Own Words: For HubSpot's Katie Burke, it's all about avoiding the second arrow"

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Published 2020-06-17

251. Courtney Carter, Oiselle Advisor for Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion

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"People have to start looking at what's going on globally, but also locally. What does your running club look like? Who do the people you run with look like? What are the books you read? Who are they by? These individual decisions and choices that we make all come together and change the landscape."

You probably know Courtney Carter by her Instagram moniker: EatPrayRunDC. Both on- and offline, Courtney's work has a major impact on the world. The 10-time marathoner is a former practicing lawyer who now leads diversity initiatives at a large law firm in Washington, DC, and she was recently named Oiselle's Advisor for Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. On this episode, Courtney talks about what that means, what her vision is for both Oiselle and the running community at large, and shares her own running story and goals.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • Why it was a good day for Courtney (2:55)
  • What Courtney's job entails, and her path to her current role (8:00)
  • All about Courtney's role as Oiselle's Advisor for Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (21:20)
  • Courtney's wishes for U.S. distance running right now (32:25)
  • Courtney shares her running story (46:50)

What we mention on this episode:

"A Wish for U.S. Running From a Black Marathoner," by Courtney Carter for Women's Running

"Let's Talk About the Word Colorblind," by Courtney Carter for the Oiselle blog

Peyton Thomas on Episode 244 of the Ali on the Run Show

Aliphine Tuliamuk's Resiliency Beanies on Etsy

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Published 2020-06-15

250. On the Job with Grace Kim James, Senior Vice President of Marketing at Atlantic Records

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"Music literally changes peoples' lives. It really has the ability to uplift people, especially during today's times. That's a really powerful thing, and that, to me, is success. Beyond the sales and the accolades and the awards — being able to create positive change through music."

As Senior Vice President of Marketing at Atlantic Records, Grace Kim James works pretty much 24/7. On this episode, she talks about breaking into the music business, and what it's really like working for the number one label in the U.S. She talks about working closely with artists including Lizzo and Missy Elliott, and recalls that fateful day in the dining hall at NYU where it all started. There's glitz, glamour, and long, late nights on set or "at the club" — and somehow in between all that, Grace has trained for and run eight marathons.

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Published 2020-06-12

249. Feel-Good Friday with Jess Movold, Running Coach

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"Now more than ever is the time to learn how to be a leader for ourselves, and to learn how to handle a pivot — and thrive."

Welcome to the second episode in a four-part series called Feel-Good Fridays. (Be sure to check out the first episode, too, with therapists Jor-El Caraballo and Rachel Gersten.) These short episodes are intended to leave you feeling lighter, better, more optimistic — whether temporarily or for the rest of your life. These conversations with experts are meant to be uplifting without being fluffy or delusional. Today, running coach and 3:13 marathoner Jess Movold is here to talk about how to find meaning, purpose, and motivation on the run right now. She talks about how to connect to your "why" as a runner, and offers up some fun workouts to add to your routine. (Warning: death by burpees!)

Feel-Good Fridays on the Ali on the Run Show are brought to you by UCAN. Click here and use code ONTHERUN25 for 25% off your first UCAN order. Returning UCAN fans can use code ONTHERUN for 15% off.

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Published 2020-06-11

248. The Future of Running: The Next Step Forward "Live Show"

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I was honored when UCAN asked me to host a conversation with five running industry leaders and experts called "The Next Step Forward: The Future of Running." This conversation is about how we get back on our feet and on the run in a post-pandemic world, and you'll hear some really eye-opening insights about what's happening now in the running community, and where we go from here. Enjoy hearing from Boston Marathon race director Dave McGillivray, renowned running coach Greg McMillan, super-agent Hawi Keflezighi, professional runner Sarah Sellers, and Steph Blozy, owner of Fleet Feet West Hartford.

This conversation is brought to you by UCAN. Click here and use code ONTHERUN25 for 25% off your first UCAN order. Returning UCAN fans can use code ONTHERUN for 15% off.

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Published 2020-06-10

247. Mary Kate Shea, John Hancock Senior Director of Endurance Marketing & 23-Time Boston Marathon Finisher

70 min
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"There is nothing we will not do for this team."

Mary Kate Shea — or "MK," as she's known to the fastest marathoners in the world — is the senior director of endurance marketing for John Hancock, the title sponsor of the Boston Marathon. Every year, it's Mary Kate's job to woo, recruit, and get the best distance runners to come run the historic Boston Marathon. On this episode — which we recorded at the beginning of May, before the 2020 race had been officially canceled — Mary Kate talks about how, exactly, she puts together the 50-person pro field every year. She talks about the first thing she said to Desiree Linden after Des won the 2018 race, explains what she says is the most stressful part of her job and her entire year, and shares lots of stories about everyone's favorite elites. But don't think Mary Kate is just watching this race from the media center: She says the fastest way from Hopkinton back to Boston is by foot, which is why, after she checks the elites in and gets them on their way, she joins the second wave of runners and runs the marathon herself. MK is a 23-time Boston Marathon finisher, she's run ultramarathons including 100-milers, and she's a mom of four. Superwoman, indeed.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • What Marathon Monday is like every year for Mary Kate (8:00)
  • MK's "Day in the Life" on Marathon Monday (15:40)
  • What makes Marathon Monday a success? (31:10)
  • How the recruiting process works (37:00)
  • Which runners are on MK's "Boston wish list?" (44:40)
  • What it means to be a "technical expert" at major marathons (49:55)
  • How MK got her job (51:40)

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Published 2020-06-09

246. On the Job with Ross Altenbaugh, Executive Director of Flagstaff Shelter Services

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"I grew up riding around in a cargo van filled with bologna sandwiches and handing them out under bridges and in parks."

Ross Altenbaugh is the executive director at Flagstaff Shelter Services, the largest emergency shelter in Northern Arizona. Since 2014, Flagstaff Shelter Services has permanently housed more than 500 individuals and families, which Ross says is the goal — to find permanent housing for those who need it most. Ross is a remarkable human, an in addition to the important work she does at the shelter, she's also a mom to two boys and, of course, is a runner. On this episode, she talks about how her own childhood — and her mom's — led her to this line of work, and talks about the emotional component of working in shelter services.

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Published 2020-06-05

245. Feel-Good Friday with Rachel Gersten & Jor-El Caraballo, Licensed Therapists & Co-Founders of Viva Wellness

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"It's not so much what you're doing — it's why are you doing it?"

Welcome to the first episode in a four-part series called Feel-Good Fridays. These short episodes are intended to leave you feeling lighter, better, more optimistic — whether temporarily or for the rest of your life. These conversations with experts are meant to be uplifting without being fluffy or delusional. We're kicking things off with Rachel Gersten and Jor-El Caraballo, licensed therapists and co-founders of Viva Wellness, a private therapy practice in New York City. In just 20 minutes, Rachel and Jor-El will help us all breathe a little easier. They bust some common self-care myths, and offer tangible advice on how we can all take better care of ourselves right now. (And, if nothing else, "eat some pie.")

A great, and I think very relevant quote to take away from this episode: "This isn't the Feelings Olympics. Your feelings are valid. They're real. They mean something to you. Perspective is important, but don't let that stop you from also experiencing whatever you're feeling."

Feel-Good Fridays on the Ali on the Run Show are brought to you by UCAN. Click here and use code ONTHERUN25 for 25% off your first UCAN order. Returning UCAN fans can use code ONTHERUN for 15% off.

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Published 2020-06-04

244. Peyton Thomas, 2:42 Marathoner

62 min
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"I had all these supporters that were from the Black running community that were there to cheer me on because I was their representation in the race. That's really big and pretty heavy, I think. And not heavy in a bad way. But it weighs on my mind a lot, especially now."

At just 24 years old — and with only two marathons under her belt so far — Peyton Thomas is already making a name for herself on the long-distance running scene. After running track and cross-country in high school and college, Peyton graduated from Baylor University and decided to run a marathon (with a 40-mile ultramarathon thrown in the mix). She made her 26.2-mile debut at the 2019 California International Marathon (CIM) and ran a 2:42.57, qualifying for the Olympic Trials on her first try. She went on to run the Trials in February in Atlanta, where she ran a three-second personal best time on a day that included big hills, wild wind, and a handful of calf cramp-induced walk breaks. (Imagine: 2:42.54 on a tough day!) Peyton was the only American-born Black female athlete who ran at the Trials, in a sea of more than 450 women. On this episode, she talks about what that was like, and talks about how her running journey has evolved from the days when she would black out while racing in high school and college. Peyton is a PhD candidate and teaching assistant at the University of North Carolina Wilmington, studying biology and marine biology.

Quick note! Around 40 minutes into the conversation, you may notice some beeping. We couldn't help the fact that a truck parked outside Peyton's home for a while — and we hope you aren't too bothered by it! Thanks for understanding!

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How Peyton got her start on the run (4:45)
  • Peyton talks about blacking out while racing in high school and college (15:45)
  • Why Peyton decided to train for a marathon and try to run an Olympic Trials qualifying time (20:20)
  • Peyton reflects on running the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials (35:40)
  • On diversity and inclusion at the Trials (47:30)

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Published 2020-06-01

243. On the Job with Amy Diallo, Covid-19 Researcher

46 min
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"We just wish that science was faster sometimes!"

Amy Diallo always knew she wanted to be a scientist. Growing up in France, her plan was always to move to the United States and study infectious diseases. And perhaps never has Amy's career as a postdoctoral researcher at University of California, San Francisco, been more relevant than today, as she's spending long hours in the lab doing Covid-19 research. Every day, Amy and her team are hard at work studying proteins to eventually develop medication that will treat the novel coronavirus. On this episode, she talks about why she wanted to work in infectious diseases, what it's like being an essential worker right now, and what it's really like being a scientist in the cutthroat biochemistry lab world. She talks about the pressure to work fast, what she wants everyone to know about where we're at right now with this pandemic, and how running fits into her busy life.

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Published 2020-05-27

242. Shalane Flanagan

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"If that's my legacy, that's a good one."

Shalane Flanagan has many titles: former professional runner, four-time Olympian, Olympic silver medalist, Bowerman Track Club coach, 2017 New York City Marathon champion, American record holder, two-time New York Times best-selling author, race broadcaster — and, her newest title, mom. Last month, Shalane and her husband, Steven Edwards, became parents to their son, Jack Dean Edwards, and on this episode, Shalane talks candidly about new motherhood. She talks about what it was like being at the top of her professional game and constantly fielding questions about when she planned to have children, and explains why she and Steven chose to adopt, and what that process looked like for them. She talks about her decision to retire from professional running in 2019, about why coaching was her next dream, and her third cookbook with co-author Elyse Kopecky, and about the pressure women often feel to "do it all."

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • What's making Shalane happy right now? (3:15)
  • What new motherhood looks like so far (5:10)
  • Shalane and Steven's road to adoption (14:00)
  • On fielding questions about having children (20:00)
  • On the decision to retire from professional running in 2019 (27:00)
  • All about Coach Shalane (36:15)
  • How Shalane got into race broadcasting (44:20)
  • All about Rise & Run, Shalane and Elyse Kopecky's third cookbook, coming in 2021 (49:20)
  • Reflecting on "The Shalane Effect" and Shalane's legacy (54:30)
  • Shalane answers listener questions (59:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Choice Adoptions

Shalane Flanagan on The Growth Equation podcast

"How the Shalane Effect Works," by Lindsay Crouse for The New York Times

Run Fast. Eat Slow.

Run Fast. Cook Fast. Eat Slow.

Untamed by Glennon Doyle

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Published 2020-05-26

241. On the Job with JoMarie Flores, Funeral Director

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"I'm 100 percent emotionally involved with the families I serve."

Welcome to Season 2 of the On the Job series on the Ali on the Run Show! This season, we're kicking things off with JoMarie Flores, a funeral director in Houston, TX. But don't worry: This episode isn't all death, doom, and gloom. JoMarie is so passionate about her work, and you'll quickly see why families love and appreciate her so much. On this episode, JoMarie talks about the education required to become an embalmer and funeral director, and addresses the common misperceptions about her line of work. She opens up about the emotional component of the work, shares why it's important to find laughter during hard times, and offers advice for people who are uncomfortable with death and addressing our own mortality. When she's not on the job as a "last responder," JoMarie is a marathoner, triathlete, and mom to a five-year-old boy.

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Published 2020-05-21

240. Lee Glandorf, Tracksmith Head of Communications

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"The best thing that can happen to you is to have all your plans get blown up because then you learn how you react to that."

Last week, Tracksmith announced it was adding two members to its team: professional athletes Mary Cain and Nick Willis. But Nick and Mary aren't just figureheads for the brand or sponsored athletes. They're full-time, salaried employees. On this episode, Lee Glandorf, head of communications at Tracksmith, shares the behind-the-scenes making of those deals, and talks about what hiring Nick and Mary means for both them and for the brand. She also explains why now — in the midst of a global pandemic — was the right time to make these moves. Lee is a former Yale University rower turned runner, who also shares her running story and talks about how, as someone who thrives on lists and plans, she's adjusting to life right now and finding ways to connect with the community.

What you'll get on this episode:

  • How Lee is handling this time as a self-proclaimed "control freak" (6:00)
  • How Tracksmith pivoted strategies and plans at the onset of the Covid-19 pandemic (12:00)
  • All about Tracksmith's decision to hire professional runners Mary Cain and Nick Willis earlier this month (16:30)
  • How Lee fell in love with running (33:00)
  • How Lee got her job at Tracksmith (42:50)

What we mention on this episode:

On the Job with Taylor Ritzel, Content Acquisition at Netflix

Run Free Grand Prix

"Mary Cain Announces New Role at Tracksmith," via Women's Running

"To Run My Best Marathon at Age 44, I Had to Outrun My Past," via Wired

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Published 2020-05-20

239. Dinée Dorame, Citizen of the Navajo Nation

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"I was at the cross-section of a couple different identities that people didn't quite understand."

Dinée Dorame is a citizen of the Navajo Nation, Water's Edge clan. She's a lifelong runner who grew up in Albuquerque, NM, moved to the east coast to attend and later work in admissions at Yale University, and has since returned to Albuquerque, where she is the Associate Director of College Horizons. On this episode, Dinée talks passionately about the role of running in Native culture, and the role her culture plays in her life on and off the run. She talks about setbacks she's experienced related to Accessory Navicular Syndrome, and how she has dealt with chronic pain, and offers advice for how and why runners can and should better connect with the land around them.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • Was Dinée's plan always to return home to New Mexico after attending Yale? (4:30)
  • What it was like growing up as a Native girl in Albuquerque, NM (12:00)
  • Why Dinée says running "is like medicine" for many indigenous people (24:30)
  • What Dinée says are some of the most common misperceptions of Native people today (41:15)

What we mention on this episode:

Support Dinée and Girls Inc. of New York City

Dinée in Runner's World

College Horizons

Carolyn Su on Episode 140 of the Ali on the Run Show

Native Appropriations blog

@Native_Women_Running on Instagram

Jordan @nativein_la on Instagram

Running: A Love Story, by Jen A. Miller

Oofos sandals

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Published 2020-05-14

238. Sasha Wolff, Founder of Still I Run

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"I didn't want people to think fun, happy Sasha really has depression and anxiety."

Sasha Wolff is the founder of Still I Run, a non-profit organization and online community for runners, whose mission is to raise awareness around mental health. On this episode — in honor of Mental Health Awareness Month — Sasha, a mom of two who lives in Michigan, talks openly about her own experiences with depression and anxiety. She opens up about her decision to admit herself to an inpatient facility for treatment, talks about what that was like, and explains what's in her "mental health care kit." She also shares the story of how she found running, and why she's so passionate about running for her own mental health.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • What Mental Health Awareness Month means to Sasha (4:30)
  • Sasha shares her mental health story (7:40)
  • On the decision to check into a mental health hospital (14:30)
  • What's in Sasha's "Mental Health Care Kit?" (21:00)
  • How running has played a role in Sasha's mental health journey (30:20)

What we mention on this episode:

Andrea Barber on Episode 209 of the Ali on the Run Show

Andrea Barber on Episode 45 of the Ali on the Run Show

Full Circle: From Hollywood to Real Life and Back Again, by Andrea Barber

Koala Clip

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Published 2020-05-11

237. A Message & A Promise From Ali

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"With this platform comes a responsibility."

This episode is a message from me to every listener of the Ali on the Run Show. It's a promise to do better. To showcase more voices on the show and during live events. To listen more. To do the work.

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Published 2020-05-07

236. Izzy Seidel, Tracksmith Marketing & Communications Associate

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"I always knew Molly was going to qualify for the Olympics at some point. It was just a matter of when."

During the last weekend in February, everyone was talking about one race: the U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials. But there was another race that same day, in that same city: Take the Bridge, which Izzy Seidel won. And if that last name sounds familiar — particularly in the context of having a great race in Atlanta on February 29 — that's because Izzy's sister is Molly Seidel, who finished second at the U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials that same day, solidifying her spot on the U.S. Olympic Team. On this episode, Izzy recaps that day in Atlanta from her perspective. What is it like when your sister (and roommate!) runs the Trials and lands a spot on the U.S. team? Izzy, who lives in Boston and works for Tracksmith, talks about watching the race, going on to win Take the Bridge, and then taking selfies with adoring fans — who thought she was Molly!

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • What's making Izzy happy right now, and what her running looks like these days (3:10)
  • Recapping the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials from Izzy's perspective (9:30)
  • On going on to run — and win — Take the Bridge later that night (33:30)
  • What Izzy and Molly's relationship was like growing up (38:10)
  • All about Izzy's job at Tracksmith (43:50)

What we mention on this episode:

Jay Holder on Episode 231 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Published 2020-05-04

235. On the Job with Kaitie Brown, Walt Disney World Talent Casting Coordinator

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"I just remember looking down and seeing that five year old little girl, dressed in her favorite princess dress, looking up at me with the biggest smile on her face — and I just see myself in her. It is so magical."

Kaitie Brown knew from a young age that her dream was to one day perform at Walt Disney World — and that's exactly what she went on to do. After three years and 12 auditions, Kaitie was hired as a cast member, where she would perform several times a day, dancing up and down Main Street USA at the Magic Kingdom. Today, Kaitie is one of Disney World's talent casting coordinators, and on this episode, she talks about what it takes to get hired, why auditions are — she swears — actually really fun, and what it's really like to dance at Disney. Plus, as a four-time marathoner, she talks about how being a runner has made her a better performer.

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Published 2020-04-30

234. Emily Sisson Recaps the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials

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"I think after a certain point you just realize you're not running to impress other people."

Emily Sisson was one of the top-seeded women competing at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials. She's a 2:23 marathoner and professional runner for New Balance, and she went into the Trials after a huge year on the run in 2019. Emily made her marathon debut at the 2019 London Marathon, where she finished sixth and became the seventh-fastest woman ever at the marathon distance. It was also the second fastest debut by an American woman. Emily then went on to compete in the 10,000 meters at USATF Nationals, where she earned a spot to represent the U.S. at Worlds in Doha. Emily's race in Atlanta didn't quite go as she'd hoped, and she ended up pulling out of the race with four miles to go. On this episode, she talks about what went down during the race, whether being a top pick added pressure to her day, and what it was like stepping off the course. She also talks about the emotional aftermath from the race — and getting a second dog!

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • On the decision to get a second dog! (3:10)
  • How Emily's life has changed over the past six weeks (11:10)
  • Recapping the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials (16:30)
  • What it was like dropping out of the Trials (35:30)
  • On the emotional recovery from the race (40:30)
  • Emily's advice for dealing with disappointment (47:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Emily Sisson on Episode 169 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emma Coburn on Episode 224 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Published 2020-04-27

233. On the Job with Amanda LaVergne, Broadway Performer

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"I've trained for Boston... I've done a 20-miler before doing two shows of A Chorus Line, which is two hours of standing on your feet and kicking. I've done 20-milers before a five-show day at Radio City."

Amanda LaVergne is a Broadway actress, singer, and dancer. She has performed in Annie and Grease, among many others, and spent a decade performing as Mrs. Claus in the Radio City Christmas Spectacular. Offstage, Amanda is a 3:07 marathoner, a 1:24 half marathoner, and a running coach. So how do you train for the Boston Marathon while also doing five shows a day at Radio City? How do you run the New York City Marathon fast enough to make it to the theater before a 3 PM curtain? On this episode, Amanda talks about the realities of making it on Broadway and beyond, having thick skin, what auditions are really like, and what it feels like to make your Broadway debut.

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Published 2020-04-24

232. Ramblings on the Run with Ali & Matt

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Welcome to the April edition of Ramblings on the Run with Ali & Matt. Every month, Matt Chittim — host of the Rambling Runner podcast and the Road to the Olympic Trials show — and I will come together to talk about running industry news, our own running, and things we're loving right now, and to answer listener questions about running and podcasting. But this time around, instead of listener Q&A, we created the Quarantine Decathlon. Give it a try — and let us know how you fare! We recorded this episode on Marathon Monday — the should-be day for the Boston Marathon — and had fun talking about how the running community celebrated running on a day that wasn't what anyone had planned for.

What we mention on this episode:

Peloton app

Bota Box wine

Sarah Cummings on Episode 215 of the Ali on the Run Show

Sarah Cummings on Episode 112 of the Ali on the Run Show

"The Third Monday in April," by Erin Strout for Women's Running

"To Run My Best Marathon at Age 44, I Had to Outrun My Past," by Nicholas Thompson for Wired

McKirdy Mile Race Series

Laura Thweatt on Episode 228 of the Ali on the Run Show

Nell Rojas on Episode 229 of the Ali on the Run Show

Try the Quarantine Decathlon!

  1. Stair Jump
  2. House Races
  3. Emergency Shuttle Run
  4. Tower Ball
  5. Hungry or Bored?
  6. Kid Toy Push-Ups
  7. The Quiet & Alone Hurdles
  8. Letter PRs
  9. The Coffee to Wine Relay
  10. "Foam rolling?"

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Published 2020-04-22

231. Jay Holder, Director of Marketing & Communications at Atlanta Track Club

51 min
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"Find a way to get people hooked on running. That's what we need."

Jay Holder just might love running — the sport itself, plus every single member of the running community — more than any guy I know. Jay is the Director of Marketing & Communications at Atlanta Track Club, which means this week, we're getting a behind-the-scenes look at what it took to host the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials! Jay talks about the bidding process leading up to the Trials, and shares what, exactly, Atlanta did to show USA Track & Field that they were worthy of hosting one of the greatest weekends in American distance racing. (It involved a 90-page proposal and plan!) Jay, a dad of two, shares stories from the course — which he ran several dozen times before race weekend — and explains what he says is "the best part of the job." We look back reminiscing about the Trials weekend, and look forward, with some trepidation: The Atlanta Track Club also hosts the Peachtree Road Race, which is the largest 10K in the world that takes place every year on the Fourth of July.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • A bit of background on Jay's professional career, and what brought him to Atlanta Track Club (6:55)
  • The bidding process behind the Olympic Trials, and how Atlanta won the hosting gig (10:00)
  • What Jay says is the best part of his job (21:50)
  • What race weekend looked like for Jay (28:50)
  • What does the current state of the world mean for the 2020 Peachtree Road Race?

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Published 2020-04-20

230. On the Job with Christine Mousa, Family Specialist in the Division of Child Protection and Permanency

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"I can sincerely say that when I leave work and go home, my heart feels really full — but sometimes it feels defeated... There's a lot of emotion at stake. It's hard."

Christine Mousa is a family specialist in New Jersey's Division of Child Protection and Permanency. Her job is to find safe and loving homes for children. It's important, emotional work, and on this episode, Christine talks about what the job entails, whether she ever feels afraid on the job, and what being "out in the field" means.

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Published 2020-04-16

229. Nell Rojas, 2:28 Marathoner & 9th-Place Olympic Trials Finisher

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"You have to believe in yourself. And you can say it a million times, but before this, I didn't actually believe I could run with these girls. And now I absolutely know that I can run with these girls, and I know that I can be competitive."

Nell Rojas finished ninth at the U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials in February. And that in its own is impressive — but it's especially impressive when you consider that it was only Nell's third ever marathon. Nell is a triathlete and obstacle course racer turned marathoner, and on this episode, she talks about running the Olympic A standard at her first marathon, winning her second marathon (a 2:28 at Grandma's Marathon in 2019), and running the Trials as her third marathon. She talks about her recovery from the Trials and what's next, and talks about the time she beat Des Linden at the Falmouth Road Race — and then immediately asked for her autograph. Plus: What Nell is like as a coach, why she decided to rescue a dog right before the Trials, and the advice she has for anyone who's ever been told they "don't look like a runner."

What you'll get on this episode:

  • Nell breaks down her post-Trials recovery, and explains what her training looks like right now (3:50)
  • Nell recaps her race at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials (6:20)
  • Nell's road to becoming a marathoner (24:50)
  • On winning Boulder Bolder 40 years after her dad won the race, and winning Grandma's Marathon in 2019 (32:00)
  • What is Nell like as a coach? (36:00)
  • What will Nell's training look like between now and the fall? (37:00)

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228. Laura Thweatt, 2:25 Marathoner & 5th-Place Olympic Trials Finisher

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"I had to keep believing that my Olympic dream was still alive until the race was over."

Laura Thweatt ran a fast, fierce, gutsy race at the U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials in Atlanta — a hard effort that earned her a fifth-place finish. But fifth place at the Trials is a tough spot: When the first three finishers make the team and the fourth-place finisher is the alternate, fifth place is so close, but so far from being on the Olympic team. On this episode, Laura — a 2:25 marathoner who runs for Saucony and is coached by Joe Bosshard — recaps her race at the Trials, offers advice for runners dealing with injuries or setbacks, and talks about how the Covid-19 crisis has affected her training so far and her year ahead.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How Laura's doing during these "weird times" (3:45)
  • The story behind that Saucony #dontrushchallenge video (7:20)
  • What Laura's days look like right now (14:40)
  • How Laura got so strong leading up to the Trials (17:40)
  • Recapping the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials (24:05)
  • What Laura's post-Trials meeting with her sports psychologist was like (43:00)
  • Laura's advice for dealing with injuries or setbacks (51:00)
  • Did Laura always plan to be a professional runner? (53:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Saucony's #dontrushchallenge video

The "original" runner #dontrushchallenge video

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Published 2020-04-13

227. On the Job with Julia Harrington, Corporate Pilot

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"Fear is not something you experience in an airplane. That's your comfort zone."

For many people, flying in an airplane is an anxiety-inducing adventure. But not for Julia Harrington. Julia is a corporate pilot and captain on two business jets, and on this On the Job episode, she talks about her adventures in the skies. Julia reminisces about her childhood dreams of becoming a pilot, and talks about the education required to get a pilot's license. She talks about her first flight, whether she's ever scared in the air, and what it's like being a badass woman in a very male-dominated industry. (Plus, she offers reassuring advice for all the anxious fliers out there!)

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Published 2020-04-08

226. Caitlyn Tateishi, 2:43 Marathoner

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"Without races on the schedule, you're figuring out why you run in the first place. I think this is a really good reminder that we do it because we love it — not because we're constantly chasing a goal or trying to prove something."

Caitlyn Tateishi has run — long, and fast — all over the world. On this episode, the 2:43 marathoner talks about growing up in Hawaii and discovering life on the run, and going on to run an unofficial ultramarathon during her time in the Peace Corps in Africa. Caitlyn explains why she took a long break from running, and talks about rediscovering her passion for the sport. Plus, she breaks down how, exactly, she shaved 50 minutes off her marathon time, going from wanting to qualify for the Boston Marathon to running at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials earlier this year. It's a powerful, relatable conversation about identifying as a runner, dealing with failure, and getting to that "I belong" moment.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How Caitlyn is feeling physically and emotionally since running the Trials (3:00)
  • Recapping Caitlyn's race in Atlanta (7:00)
  • How Caitlyn found running (11:00)
  • Why Caitlyn joined the Peace Corps, and what it was like living and running in tK (23:00)
  • Why Caitlyn decided to start training for marathons — and her road to an OTQ (29:15)

What we mention on this episode:

"I thought my best running days were over": How Olympic Trials Qualifier Caitlyn Tateishi Found Her Way Back to Running via Women's Running

Born to Run

Miles to the Trials blog

First Ladies of Running

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Published 2020-04-06

225. On the Job with Taylor Ritzel, Content Acquisition at Netflix

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"I was just like, 'Oh my god, I'm in Hollywood! This was meant to be!'"

Taylor Ritzel has quite the resumé: She was a collegiate rower at Yale University who went on to win Olympic gold in rowing at the 2012 games. Today, though, Taylor has traded her oars for the Hollywood life. She works at Netflix, in nonfiction series content acquisition. On this episode, she talks about what, exactly, that means, and what it's like working on shows including Cheer, Queer Eye, and Tidying Up with Marie Kondo.

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Published 2020-04-01

224. Catching Up with Emma Coburn

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"There's nothing I can do, so I might as well not wallow about it, and I might as well just find something else to make me happy for the moment."

Emma Coburn is a two-time Olympian, eight-time U.S. steeplechase champion, world champion, and world silver medalist. On this episode, Emma — who runs for New Balance and is Vice President of the Athletics Association — talks about how the COVID-19 pandemic has affected her training and her livelihood. She's honest about the financial hit professional athletes will take during this time, and shares her take on the postponement of the 2020 Olympic Games.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How Emma is finding happiness right now (3:40)
  • All about Emma's nightly Instagram Lives (7:15)
  • What Emma's training has been like, both before and since hearing about the Olympics being postponed (10:45)
  • How COVID-19 has directly affected Emma's career and life at home (25:25)
  • How Emma is maintaining a positive attitude during these times (37:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Emma Coburn on Episode 60 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emma Coburn on Episode 96 of the Ali on the Run Show

Aisha Praught & Will Leer on Episode 204 of the Ali on the Run Show

Emma's Resistance Bands

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Published 2020-03-31

223. On the Job with Kelly McKnight, Orthopedic Surgery Resident

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"I run on pure stress and adrenaline."

Kelly McKnight is an orthopedic surgery resident — a real-life Callie Torres from Grey's Anatomy! — in Sioux Falls, SD. On this episode, the second in the On the Job series, Kelly talks about what her job entails, what the schooling is like, how she survives grueling 80-hour weeks on her feet, and how running fits in. She also talks about why only six percent of orthopedic surgeons are women — and why she's passionate about bringing that number way up.

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Published 2020-03-26

222. Kaitlin Goodman Recaps the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials

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"I know I wasn't a favorite, but I felt that if a door opened, I was fully ready to sprint through it."

When Kaitlin Goodman, a 2:32 marathoner who runs for adidas and the Boston Athletic Association, arrived at the start line of the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials, she felt fit, strong, and ready to race. Kaitlin was ranked 29th in the field of more than 500 women, and she was in Atlanta to be at the front of the race. But just half a mile into the 26.2-mile run, Kaitlin fell, and in an instant, her dreams of finishing at the top of the field were shaken. On this episode, Kaitlin vividly recounts what the day was like for her. (Warning: This one is a tear-jerker.) At the end of the episode, Kaitlin — who holds a master's in public health from Brown University and is a consultant in the field — shares what she wishes everyone understood about the current state of the world and the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How Kaitlin is feeling post-Trials (5:55)
  • Kaitlin recaps her race at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials (12:00)
  • On recovering from the race (40:35)
  • Kaitlin talks about COVID-19 from the perspective of a public health professional (46:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Kaitlin Goodman on Episode 160 of the Ali on the Run Show

LIVE at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials with Sarah Cummings, Kaitlin Goodman, Amanda Nurse, Ladia Albertson-Junkans, & Jenny Donnelly

What It Was Like Being in Atlanta for the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials

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Published 2020-03-23

221. On the Job with Rachel Dewan, Archaeologist

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"It's really a lesson in humans and human activity."

Welcome to the On the Job series on the Ali on the Run Show! Every Tuesday for the next seven weeks, we'll meet cool women with interesting, fascinating, unique, badass jobs. They'll talk about how they got into their respective fields, what their jobs entail, why their work matters, and why they've pursued their passions. Plus, they're all runners, so they'll talk about how running fits into their busy lives. First up: Rachel Dewan. Rachel is an archaeologist who spends her summers in Greece, digging for artifacts and studying ancient cultures from 4,000 years ago. (The Minoan culture, specifically.) It's her job to dig up material culture and try to make sense of it all. On this episode, she talks about what, exactly, it means to be an archaeologist (she's not Ross from Friends!), what it's like on a dig, and what being on a dig actually means.

Inspired? Me, too! This November, Rachel will be leading a trip combining both her passions: running and archaeology. This 8-day running tour of Greece (led by Rachel and a fellow archaeologist and art historian) will end with the Athens Marathon. Between runs, you'll explore historic places and great food. Check it out here!

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Published 2020-03-22

220. Andrea Toppin Recaps Her Race at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials

60 min
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"I'm not going to throw a pity party. I'm celebrating this day. I was a part of history."

It's so hard to believe it's been nearly a month since we were all in Atlanta for the U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials — truly the good old days! And I want to keep remembering and celebrating those days. Andrea Toppin is a chiropractic student and elite marathoner for Oiselle who trains with the Minnesota Distance Elite — and she didn't have the race of her dreams that day in Atlanta. On this episode, Andrea shares her story, opens up about the tough decision to DNF at the Trials, and talks about her outlook moving forward. (Spoiler: One race does not define you as a runner or as a human!)

What you'll get on this episode:

  • Andrea recaps her race at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials (7:10)
  • What's next for Andrea? (39:30)

What we mention on this episode:

Anita Perez on Episode 218 of the Ali on the Run Show

LIVE at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials with Carrie Tollefson, Meb Keflezighi, & UCAN

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Published 2020-03-18

219. Jacqueline Alnes, Creator of Running-Inspired Tiny Art

60 min
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"I viewed myself as a runner my whole life. That was my main identity. And so when I started considering the possibility that that might be taken away from me, I just felt this grief I didn't even know how to handle yet, of who are you if you're not a runner?"

Even if you don't know Dr. Jacqueline Alnes by the name, you definitely know her work. She's the woman behind the "tiny art" paintings you've seen all over Instagram featuring inspiring women from within the running community. (You can buy her prints on Etsy here!) Jacqueline is a creative writing professor in Pennsylvania, and on this episode, she opens up about the neurological disorder that left her passing out on the run as a Division-I athlete in college — and talks about how she came back and rediscovered her love for running.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • Why Jacqueline is training to run the 2020 TCS New York City Marathon in honor of the Brave Like Gabe Foundation (5:10)
  • Jacqueline explains the neurological disorder she's been experiencing since college (8:20)
  • What Jacqueline's health and running are like today (26:35)
  • The story behind Jacqueline's "tiny art" on Instagram (31:00)
  • The app that helped Jacqueline get over a bad breakup (41:40)

What we mention on this episode:

Support Jacqueline's Brave Like Gabe fundraising efforts!

The Great Believers by Rebecca Makkai

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218. Anita Perez, 2:39 Marathoner, Single Mom, & Special Education Teacher

56 min
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"It's almost like I was running away from what had happened."

Anita Perez just might be one of the most inspiring, hardworking, dedicated women you'll ever meet. She's a 2:39 marathoner (who also runs a 1:17 half marathon), a single mom to two kids, and a middle school special education teacher. She's kind and caring, and she works her butt off in every facet of her life (including waking up at 3 AM to get her workouts in). On this episode, she talks about what it was like running at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials last month, compares that to her experience running the 2016 Trials, and opens up about the years in between. She talks about her mom passing away after a short and devastating bout with cancer, and opens up about how that affected her running. It's a powerful, poignant episode.

Thank you to the Atlanta Track Club for sponsoring this episode of the Ali on the Run Show! The Atlanta Track Club is proud to host the AJC Peachtree Road Race — the largest 10K in the world! — every year on the Fourth of July. The lottery for this year's race opens on March 15, so head to ajc.com/peachtree to enter!

What you'll get on this episode:

  • Anita recaps her race at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials (3:40)
  • Reflecting on running through grief (14:45)
  • On the goal to run an Olympic Trials qualifying time (25:00)
  • What Anita's typical day looks like (37:30)
  • Why Anita loves her work as a middle school special education teacher (43:45)

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LIVE at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials with Carrie Tollefson, Meb Keflezighi, & UCAN

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Published 2020-03-11

217. What It Was Like Being in Atlanta for the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials

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"I wasn't there as a runner. I wasn't there as a sister, a mother...I was there as a fan of the sport, and as a supporter of so many of these women. And in a very different way I found my own 'I belong,' and it was realizing I am bringing something to the running community."

It's a solo episode! On this episode, I reflect on my experience traveling to Atlanta to watch the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials. (To read more about the weekend, check out this post.)

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Westin Peachtree Plaza

Atlanta Track Club

LIVE at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials with Sarah Cummings, Kaitlin Goodman, Amanda Nurse, Ladia Albertson-Junkans, & Jenny Donnelly

LIVE at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials with Carrie Tollefson, Meb Keflezighi, & UCAN

Veronica Jackson & Alex Bernardi, Olympic Trials Qualifiers

Veronica Jackson & Alex Bernardi Recap the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials

Jenny & Judi Donnelly BONUS EPISODE!

Subscribe to the Fast Women newsletter

"Why Are American Women Running Faster Than Ever?" via The New York Times

Starla Garcia, Olympic Trials Qualifier & Registered Dietitian

Carly Gill, Olympic Trials Qualifier

Jen Bigham AKA Local Elite

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Published 2020-03-11

216. LIVE on International Women's Day

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In honor of International Women's Day, I sat down with an all-star panel of smart, inspiring women — Abby Bales, Rozalynn Frazier, Kelly Hogan, and Henna Rustami — to talk about everything from periods, nutrition, and diversity in running to the whys behind why we started running and why we keep running.

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Published 2020-03-05

215. LIVE at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials with Sarah Cummings, Kaitlin Goodman, Amanda Nurse, Ladia Albertson-Junkans, & Jenny Donnelly

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"I am here to try and find the best version of myself." —Sarah Cummings

"I am here because running makes me feel the most alive." —Kaitlin Goodman

"I'm here because I found running later in life, and it felt like it fed my soul." —Amanda Nurse

"My why is Gabe Grunewald." —Ladia Albertson-Junkans

"I'm here because running feels like home. And because despite years of subpar performances and giving up on myself, I had people who didn't, and I'm very grateful for that." —Jenny Donnelly

It was a tremendous honor and privilege to host a live show at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials Expo in Atlanta, GA, with five former Ali on the Run Show guests and Trials runners: Sarah Cummings, Kaitlin Goodman, Amanda Nurse, Ladia Albertson-Junkans, and Jenny Donnelly. This was an inspiring, uplifting, at times emotional conversation about goals, the running community, choices and sacrifices, and each woman's "why."

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Published 2020-03-05

214. Veronica Jackson & Alex Bernardi Recap the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials

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"This showed me I can make more dreams — because apparently they come true!" —Veronica Jackson

Last week, we heard from U.S. Olympic Trials Marathon qualifiers, friends, and former training partners Veronica Jackson and Alex Bernardi. This week, they're back to recap their respective races in Atlanta. (Spoiler: Veronica finished 63rd and Alex ran a personal best!)

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How Veronica and Alex were feeling three days after running the Trials (2:30)
  • Breaking down the early miles of the race (7:25)
  • On the crowds and the spectators (13:45)
  • Alex and Veronica talk about what it was like seeing each other during the race (20:10)
  • Veronica talks about experiencing pre-race anxiety the day before the race (24:00)
  • What it was really like being in Atlanta (32:25)

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Veronica on Alex on Episode 211 of the Ali on the Run Show

Atlanta Track Club

Kaitlin Goodman on Episode 160 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Published 2020-03-04

213. LIVE at the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials with Carrie Tollefson, Meb Keflezighi, & UCAN

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This is the first of several post-U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials episodes coming your way this week. It was such an honor to co-host a live show after the race alongside Carrie Tollefson and Meb Keflezighi — in front of a 400-person audience! After an inspiring opening speech by UCAN President and CEO Shoba Murali and a few remarks from Meb, we recapped the race with Carrie (who was the official race announcer) and Meb (the official race starter). Then, we welcomed seven UCAN athletes — Sarah Sellers, Taylor Ward, Dawn Grunnagle, Tyler Pennel, Andrea Toppin, Anita Perez, and Jocelyn Todd — who shared their stories from the day. Some had breakthrough races (a PR for Sarah Sellers!), while others had challenging days on the course. All of their stories were honest, uplifting, and relatable, and I'm so grateful for everything they shared.

Thank you to UCAN for sponsoring this episode of Ali on the Run Show! Click here and use code ONTHERUN for 20 percent off your order, plus free shipping. (First-time buyers, check out the UCAN Run Starter Pack here, and get 50 percent off.)

What you'll get on this episode:

  • Opening remarks from Shoba Murali, UCAN President and CEO (3:40)
  • A few words from Meb Keflezighi (9:00)
  • The live show begins! Carrie and Meb recap the race from their perspectives (12:30)
  • Taylor Ward, Sarah Sellers, and Dawn Grunnagle recap their races at the U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials (30:45)
  • Tyler Pennel joins the conversation to talk about his race, where he finished 11th overall (43:20)
  • Andrea Toppin, Anita Perez, and Jocelyn Todd share their races stories from the day (58:30)

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Published 2020-02-27

212. Ramblings on the Run with Ali & Matt

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Welcome to the second edition of a new monthly series on the Ali on the Run Show: Ramblings on the Run with Ali & Matt. Every month, Matt Chittim — host of the Rambling Runner podcast and the Road to the Olympic Trials show — and I will come together to talk about running industry news, our own running, and things we're loving right now, and to answer listener questions about running and podcasting. It's something new we're trying, so let us know what you think and what you want more (or less!) of. On this episode, it's all about Trials talk. We share our excitement for the 2020 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials, talk about our predictions about what might happen while admitting none of us really have any idea, and answer listener questions about podcasting.

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Superhero Muffins

Publix Atlanta 5K

Peter Bromka on Road to the Olympic Trials

Lou Serafini on Road to the Olympic Trials

Sarah Ibbetson @runningbcba on Instagram (2:45.01 series)

"In Celebrating Local Olympic Hopefuls, We Lift Up Our Communities" by Erin Strout for Women's Running

Jay Holder on The CITIUS MAG Podcast

Jay Holder on C Tolle Run

Kaitlin Gregg Goodman on Episode 160 of the Ali on the Run Show

Sara Hall on Episode 144 of the Ali on the Run Show

Steph Bruce on Episode 206 of the Ali on the Run Show

Steph Bruce on Episode 104 of the Ali on the Run Show

Alison Wade and Erin Strout on Road to the Olympic Trials

Elle Purrier on Episode 210 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Published 2020-02-26

211. Veronica Jackson & Alex Bernardi, Olympic Trials Qualifiers

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"The only reason this was my goal is because it was her goal. I only have this dream because she was crazy enough to dream it first." —Veronica Jackson

Veronica Jackson and Alex Bernardi are among the 500+ women who will be running the U.S. Olympic Trials Marathon this weekend in Atlanta, GA. They're longtime training partners, and on this episode, they talk about the power of running friendships, and the effects your best running friends can have on your goals. Today, Alex and Veronica live in separate cities — Veronica in Boston where she's an attorney at the Partners Healthcare Hospital System, and Alex in New York City, where she's a research associate at a nonprofit — but we got together in person to record this episode (after they finished their 20-miler, of course).

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How Alex and Veronica were feeling two weeks out from the Trials (7:30)
  • Alex reflects on qualifying for the 2016 Olympic Trials (8:30)
  • What does it mean to each of them to get to run the Trials? (14:00)
  • Alex talks about her postpartum running experience, and shares how she qualified for the Trials again after having her son (16:20)
  • #TBT: Alex and Veronica share the story of how they met, and the importance of running friendships (19:50)
  • How moving out of NYC affected Veronica's training (34:15)
  • How Veronica found new running buddies in Boston (52:00)
  • How Veronica and Alex support each other from afar, and what the OTQ community is like (56:15)

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Central Park Track Club

Sarah Cummings on Episode 112 of the Ali on the Run Show

Jenny Donnelly on Episode 193 of the Ali on the Run Show

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Published 2020-02-24

210. Elle Purrier, Indoor Mile American Record Holder

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"It's a pretty misunderstood lifestyle. Unless you're in it, you don't really have a clue what it's like to do it or why you would do it, because it's so much work. But the people who have a passion for it would never change that."

Earlier this month, Elle Purrier won the Wanamaker Mile at the Millrose Games in New York City. In the process, she set a new American record in the indoor mile (4:16.85), broke a 37-year-old record, ran an 8-second personal best time, and ran the second fastest indoor mile in history. On this episode, Elle, who runs for New Balance, talks about that day, and reflects on her indoor season before she begins training for outdoor season — and the 2020 Olympic Track & Field Trials. She also talks about growing up on a dairy farm in Vermont, and how that impacted her work ethic.

Thank you to the Atlanta Track Club for sponsoring this episode of the Ali on the Run Show! Go to atlantatrackclub.org to sign up for this weekend's Publix Atlanta 5K, where you can finish in the same spot as the men and women running the Olympic Trials Marathon the day before!

What you'll get on this episode:

  • Recapping Elle's amazing race at the 2020 Millrose Games (3:00)
  • Recapping the next week's USATF indoor championships in Albuquerque, where Elle ran the 3000m (11:00)
  • Elle sounds off on her competition (19:15)
  • What's next for Elle, and how does outdoor training compare to indoor training? (20:30)
  • On growing up on a dairy farm in Vermont (22:45)
  • A closer look at Elle's training, and looking back at the 2019 Fifth Avenue Mile (28:30)

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Published 2020-02-20

209. Catching Up with Andrea Barber

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"I'm an open book. I have no shame about anything I have gone through or felt."

Andrea Barber — perhaps best known as Kimmy Gibbler on Full House and the Netflix revival Fuller House — is back on the Ali on the Run Show! And this time, she's a published author! Andrea's first book, Full Circle: From Hollywood to Real Life and Back Again, came out late last year, and it's a hit. (I'm not just saying this because Andrea is a friend: This book is fantastic.) Full Circle isn't a salacious Hollywood memoir or tell-all. It's real and it's honest, and in it, Andrea shares her story in a raw, visceral way. On this episode, Andrea and I catch up on what's new in her life — including why her home is filled with thousands of boxes of Girl Scout Cookies, what it was like wrapping the fifth and final season of Fuller House, and where she's at with running right now — and we talk about some of my favorite parts of the book, including her uncensored stories about depression, anxiety, and divorce.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How it feels to have wrapped Fuller House (7:50)
  • On becoming a writer for Fuller House (20:55)
  • What's next for Andrea? (29:00)
  • All about Andrea's book, Full Circle: From Hollywood to Real Life and Back Again, and her decision to open up about depression, anxiety, and divorce (32:40)
  • How New Kids on the Block helped Andrea through her divorce (48:45)
  • Where Andrea is at with running right now (56:00)

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Andrea Barber on Episode 45 of the Ali on the Run Show

Andrea Barber on Episode 77 of the Ali on the Run Show

Full Circle: From Hollywood to Real Life and Back Again, by Andrea Barber

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208. Love on the Run Week with Kara & Adam Goucher

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"Change always takes time, and the battles that Adam and I have chosen to fight have just taken time. We've learned to be patient and to think less about ourselves and more about the future."

Happy Valentine's Day! We're celebrating here on the Ali on the Run Show with the fifth and final episode of Love on the Run Week — and we're wrapping things up with the Gouchers! Kara and Adam Goucher have been married for 19 years. On this episode, we have an open and honest conversation about their struggles with infertility and how it affected their marriage, Kara's time as a Nike-sponsored athlete who was suspended without pay during her pregnancy and postpartum period, and why they've decided to be outspoken activists in the industry. They talk about developing thicker skin, how speaking out has impacted their relationship, and about why they're so passionate about clean sport.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How Kara and Adam met (1:55)
  • Is marriage easy? (10:35)
  • How becoming parents has changed their relationship (16:15)
  • On struggling with infertility (23:40)
  • Reflecting on Kara's time as a Nike-sponsored athlete, and why that time was "like being in a nightmare" for Kara and Adam (28:00)
  • Has speaking out publicly brought Kara and Adam closer or has it created marital stress? (41:20)
  • Kara and Adam share their 2020 goals, hopes, and dreams (48:00)

What we mention on this episode:

Kara on Episode 43 of the Ali on the Run Show

Kara on Episode 86 of the Ali on the Run Show

"It's Time For Me To Use My Voice" by Adam Goucher

Clean Sport Collective

Clean Sport Collective Podcast

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207. Love on the Run Week with Gwen Jorgensen & Pat Lemieux

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"It showed Pat my worst side, and what I'm like when I'm not my happy self."

Gwen Jorgensen won gold at the 2016 Olympic Games in the triathlon, and then decided she wanted to trade in the bike and the swim for a while to see how she could fare as a professional distance runner. Today, Gwen trains with the Bowerman Track Club, and is gearing up to compete at the 2020 Olympic Track & Field Trials in the 5K and 10K. And her husband, Pat Lemieux, will be by her side every step of the way. Pat was a professional cyclist, but he decided to put his career aside so he could fully support Gwen in hers. On this episode, they talk about that decision, and what it looked like then vs. now. Gwen and Pat live in Portland, OR, with their son, Stanley.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How Gwen and Pat met (2:40)
  • How important was it to each of them to have a relationship with a fellow athlete? (10:20)
  • Pat's decision to leave his career as a professional cyclist in order to support Gwen in her career (13:00)
  • On the decision to have a baby (25:00)
  • The biggest challenges Pat and Gwen face in their relationship (33:25)
  • Gwen's decision to train for the 2020 Olympic Track & Field Trials (36:30)

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Gwen Jorgensen on Episode 54 of the Ali on the Run Show

Gwen Jorgensen on Episode 90 of the Ali on the Run Show

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206. Love on the Run Week with Steph & Ben Bruce

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"He doesn't do these grand gestures — he just shows up for me every single day."

Love on the Run Week continues! From the Leers to the Lindens — to the Bruces! Today, professional marathon runners Steph and Ben Bruce are here to talk about what makes them Team Bruce. They talk about what it's like when Ben is pacing Steph on the run, like at the 2019 Chicago Marathon, and open up about the impact having their two sons (Riley and Hudson) has had on their careers and their marriage. Steph and Ben live in Flagstaff, AZ, where he is an assistant coach and she competes for NAZ Elite.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How Steph and Ben met (2:45)
  • How Ben proposed to Steph (12:00)
  • What makes Steph and Ben a great team (17:15)
  • On resentment (25:00)
  • Reflecting on running the 2019 Chicago Marathon, where Steph ran a 2:27 personal best time, and Ben was on pacing duties (31:00)
  • How marriage has changed since having kids (37:00)
  • How Steph is feeling just a few weeks out from the Olympic Trials (42:35)

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Steph Bruce on Episode 104 of the Ali on the Run Show

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205. Love on the Run Week with Des & Ryan Linden

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"It's competitive…in a healthy way!"

It's Love on the Run Week on the Ali on the Run Show! First we heard from Aisha Praught and Will Leer, and today it's the Linden's turn. On this episode, we hear from 2018 Boston Marathon champion Desiree Linden and her Ironman and entrepreneur husband, Ryan.

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What you'll get on this episode:

  • How Des and Ryan met (2:15)
  • How important is running in their relationship? (8:30)
  • Des and Ryan reflect on some of the biggest moments in their careers and how they affected their relationship (15:50)
  • How Ryan and Des support each other and celebrate their wins (21:30)
  • Who's the better spectator? (29:55)
  • When one person's career is thriving and the other's isn't (34:00)
  • How Des is feeling leading up to the Olympic Trials (38:20)
  • The moments in each others' careers Des and Ryan are most proud of (40:15)

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Des on Episode 64 of the Ali on the Run Show

Des on Episode 77 of the Ali on the Run Show

Des on Episode 100 of the Ali on the Run Show

Ryan on Episode 83 of the Ali on the Run Show

Des on Episode 27 of the Clean Sport Collective podcast

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