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In this episode, the hosts discuss the art of giving good notes to screenwriters, the challenges of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) in the workplace, and the evolution of black representation in media. They also share their predictions for the upcoming Academy Awards.

We also talk about:

• The importance of understanding the intended audience and resources available when giving notes

• The dilution of DEI initiatives and the need to balance meritocracy with creating opportunities

• The impact of media on social perceptions of race and the challenges of defining a "black movie."

• The historical context of black representation in media, including "Amos and Andy" and Tyler Perry's work

• The challenges faced by independent filmmakers and the resources available, such as the Columbia State Community College's Film Crew Technology Program

Products, software, websites, people, or places mentioned:

Columbia State Community College Film Crew Technology Program

David Smith, the FCT program director

The feature film Midas Man

Seven feature film

Creed feature film

Black Panther feature film

Fences feature film

Sing, Sing feature film

The Brutalist feature film

Denzel Washington

Brad Pitt

Whoopi Goldberg

Angelina Jolie

Demi Moore

Amos and Andy

Tyler Perry's Madea films

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Welcome to SUMMARIES, Episode #4

Summaries take some of our best long-form interviews (and even some unpublished ones) and condense them down to 10 (or so) minutes of pure listening pleasure. 

Summaries are hosted by our digital interns, Alex Ivey and Allison Inverness, and are designed to give you, our valued listeners, just the information you need from each guest. It's a new short-form concept for a fast-paced world. It's the answer to the two-hour podcast you want to listen to but never have the time for.

Each new episode of Summaries will be published right here, on the MAKE IT feed. We think you'll love it as much as we do—now, on to the show.

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Alex and Allison summarize our previously released episode with Christian Gregory, the Co-Founder of 3EEnergy and Son of Comedian and Activist Dick Gregory. So, who is Christian Gregory?

Christian Gregory is the eighth child of Dick and Lillian Gregory. Born in Chicago, he was raised on a 1,000 acre farm in Plymouth, Massachusetts, where the pastoral setting and lifelong lessons in wellness spurred his interest in physiology and the mind-body connection. After graduating from Morgan State University, he earned a Doctor of Chiropractic degree from Life University in Atlanta. Dr. Gregory practiced in Washington for twenty-five years, caring for DC natives, leading entertainment figures, and friends in the movement, including Rosa Parks, Coretta Scott King, Betty Shabazz, Dorothy Height, Cicely Tyson, and Stevie Wonder. When Dick Gregory decided to resume an active speaking and entertainment schedule, he became his father’s manager.

Together they formed Dick Gregory Media, Inc. in 2015. Dr. Gregory’s unique combined experiences in patient care and entertainment management fostered the desire to develop the linkages between activism, communication, the performing arts, and physical well-being. To that end, he established Tower Hill Farm Health & Wellness, 3E MISSION, and Tower Hill Entertainment.

Since his passing in 2017, Christian Gregory has managed his father’s estate and intellectual property, and has successfully guided the development of other projects on his father’s life, including the stage play TURN ME LOOSE and the film THE ONE AND ONLY DICK GREGORY.

Enjoy and follow Christian on Instagram here, and watch all his work here. 

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In this episode, filmmaker Fr3deR1ck Taylor discusses his journey as a Black documentarian, the challenges of the film industry, and the importance of embracing one's African heritage. 

We also talk about:

- The power of film to drive social change and the responsibility of filmmakers

- The impact of social media and technology on the entertainment industry

- The need for more diverse representation and support for Black artists

- The Driving Miss Daisy story and how it impacted Fr3deR1ck's career

- The Emmy process and how to advocate for yourself as a filmmaker

- The three key things Fr3deR1ck would teach a new documentary filmmaker

Products, software, websites, people or places mentioned:

- Indie Insights newsletter

- Bonsai Creative

- Justina Kelley 

- Sarah Jean Kelley

- Tomorrow Pictures

- Counter History's Rock Hill

- If Cities Could Dance

- After the Fall, HIV Grows Up

- Boxing Chicks

- Pre-Existing Freedom

- PBS

- BBC

- Emory University

- Magellan

- Christopher Columbus

- Neil deGrasse Tyson

- Cornel West

- Steve McQueen

- Guillermo del Toro

- Parasite

- Wonder Woman

- Iron Man

- The Breakfast Club

- Driving Miss Daisy

- Morgan Freeman

- Jessica Tandy

- Dan Aykroyd

- Georgia State University

- Dr. K Back

- Roku

- Amazon

- Elon Musk

- Twitter

- Anita Bryant

- Clarence Thomas

- Thurgood Marshall

- Yarde

- 1, 2, 3 All Eyes on Me

- Hafele-Keating Test

- Gordon Parks

- Wynton Marcellus

- Motown

- Robert Johnson

- BET

- Tyler Perry Studios

- Disney

- Lizzo

- Nicki Minaj

- Missy Elliott

- Queen Latifah

- Rapsody

- Aretha Franklin

- The Beatles

- Little Richard

- Strait of Magellan

- Richard Pryor

- Dick Gregory

- Tim Tebow

- Chad McClarnon

- Breakfast Club

- John Hughes

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In this episode, veteran Hollywood marketing executive Jim Fredrick shares his fascinating journey from shipping clerk to top trailer editor and marketing strategist. He provides a behind-the-scenes look at the high-stakes world of promoting both blockbuster and independent films, offering invaluable insights for aspiring filmmakers. Fredrick also discusses his new book Opening Weekend, which provides a backstage pass to the marketing strategies behind both box office hits and flops.

We also talk about:

• The pressure of marketing $200 million films vs. $2 million films
• The role of data, research, and creative intuition in marketing decisions
• The evolution of movie trailers and the importance of music
• Designing effective movie posters, especially for independent films
• The value of authenticity and following your passions in career development
• All new Audience Polls
• All New Things We Should Know
• An all-new Filmmaker Q&A

Products, software, websites, people or places mentioned:

- Jim Fredrick's book "Opening Weekend"

- Interlink Trailers

- Castle Rock Films

- WarnerBros.

- Sony Screen Gems

- Chapman University

- The Perfect Storm

- The Patriot

- The Color Purple

- Eyes Wide Shut

- Shawshank Redemption

- Kraven the Hunter

- LEGO

- Adult Interference (movie)

- Harry Potter Franchise

- Drew Struzan (poster artist)

- Nils Granlund (advertising manager)

- The Winter Garden Theater

- The Pleasure Seekers (Broadway musical)

- Rip-O-Matic Trailers

- Jim Fredrick's website

- Cotton Bureau

- Apple Podcasts

- Spotify

- YouTube

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In this episode, we welcome Filmmaker and Vanderbilt University Film School Director, Mariah Kramer. Mariah discusses her work, including a PBS-premiered documentary and a new short fiction film. She co-founded the Uptilt Film Festival and the Point of Vu Student Film Festival at Vanderbilt University, where she teaches. The conversation touches on the importance of networking, understanding camera and editing basics, and the challenges of funding and distribution in documentary filmmaking. They also discuss the significance of Vanderbilt alumni who have won Academy Awards, including Delbert Mann for "Marty" and Tom Schulman for "Dead Poets Society."

The discussion focused on entry-level jobs for film school graduates, emphasizing the importance of trying diverse roles to find one's passion. It highlighted the value of being a PA or working in a mailroom to gain industry experience. The conversation also covered the benefits of volunteering at film festivals and being a background actor. The Point of Vu Student Film Festival, happening on February 15, was detailed, including its mission to bring together students from nine schools in Middle Tennessee. The festival will screen 24 films, with categories for fiction, non-fiction, and alternative. Mariah Kramer shared her perspective on fulfillment, value, and flexibility in the film industry.

We also talk about:

• The challenges of measuring camaraderie and building a sense of community among students
• The role of film festivals in providing networking opportunities and showcasing student work
• The potential impact of PBS funding cuts on documentary filmmakers
• The value of entry-level jobs like being a PA or working in a mail room for film school graduates
• All new Audience Polls
• All new Things We Should Know
• An all new Filmmaker Q&A
• NEW SEGMENT: "Bullets"

Products, software, websites, people or places mentioned:

- Vanderbilt University

- Belmont University

- Belcourt Theater

- Uptilt Film Festival

- Point of Vu Student Film Festival

- Claudia Raschke

- Roger Deakins

- Delbert Mann

- Tom Schulman

- "Marty"

- "Dead Poets Society"

- Abercrombie & Fitch

- MasterChef Junior

- Cotton Bureau

- Apple Podcasts

- Spotify

- YouTube

- Premiere Pro

- Final Cut

- Avid

- DaVinci Resolve

- Canon

- Sony Cameras

- Gerber Baby

- Ed McMahon

- Johnny Carson

- Marv Albert

- Vanderbilt University Library

- Battle Ground Academy

- Julien Baker

- Scared Rabbit Records

- MTSU

- Zach Liff

- Cummins Station

- The Gulch (Nashville)

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Jon Fitzgerald discusses his first film, "Self Portrait," produced in 1994, where his biggest mistake was casting friends who provided key locations.

This led to subpar performances, particularly from a young actress in a pivotal scene. The film didn't make Sundance and this failure led to the creation of Slamdance, an alternative to Sundance that Jon Co-Founded.

Jon emphasizes the importance of casting talent over friends. He now focuses on socially relevant films and supports impact campaigns, directing filmmakers to his website and book for more information.

https://www.causepictures.com

Lessons Learned and Final Thoughts from this Mistake In the Making:

• Jon Fitzgerald discusses his first film, "Self Portrait," which he directed and produced in 1994, and the biggest mistake he made: casting friends.
• He explains how one of his cast members, who had no screen credits, provided access to a nursing home and a castle, which he incorporated into the script.
• Jon highlights the challenges he faced with the lead character's sister, a young girl who couldn't deliver the required performance from a hospital bed.
• He reflects on the limitations of his budget and the inability to reshoot the scene due to financial constraints and lack of access to the location.
• Despite the film's shortcomings, it played in a few festivals, but didn't make it into Sundance. This led to the creation of Slamdance, an alternative to Sundance, which supported emerging filmmakers.
• Jon shares his experience with his next project, "The Highest Pass," where he learned to scrap a character who wasn't charismatic on camera, emphasizing the importance of casting talent over favoritism.
• He advises filmmakers to avoid casting friends and family unless they are truly talented, and to take advantage of opportunities to cast SAG actors, even on low budgets.
• Jon concludes by sharing his current work, focusing on stories with social relevance or impact, and directing filmmakers to his website and book for more information.

Products, software, websites, people or places mentioned:

- Self Portrait (Jon Fitzgerald's first film)

- El Mariachi (by Robert Rodriguez)

- Sundance Film Festival

- Slamdance Film Festival

- The Highest Pass (Jon Fitzgerald's documentary film)

- Netflix

- Cause Pictures (Jon Fitzgerald's website)

- Filmmaking for Change (Jon Fitzgerald's book)

- Jon Fitzgerald

Check out our full conversation with Jon Here

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In this episode, Kaia Alexander, the founder and CEO of the Entertainment Business School, joins the MAKE IT Podcast to discuss the importance of building a "wolf pack" in the film industry, the value of film school, and the role of a career coach for filmmakers. Kaia shares insights from her own experiences as a development executive and mentor, highlighting the significance of confidence, professionalism, and the business side of the creative process.

Key Topics Covered:

• Kaia’s background as a development executive and her mentorship by comedian Gary Shandling
• The concept of a "wolf pack" and its importance in the film industry
• The advantages filmmakers should bring to the table, including film school degrees, real-world experience, and curiosity
• The role of development executives and what they look for in projects
• Bridging the gap between creativity and professionalism as a filmmaker

Products, software, websites, people, and places mentioned in the podcast:

- Entertainment Business School

- Kaia Alexander

- "Written in the Ashes" (Kaia's award-winning novel)

- Hollywood Wolf Pack podcast

- Gary Shandling

- Roy London

- Sharon Stone

- Brad Pitt

- Antioch University

- Chris Haley and his book "When Did I Know I Was Black?"

- MAKE IT x Cotton Bureau (Tees, Hoodies, Hats, and Crewnecks)

- Indie Insights Newsletter

- Chris's Blue Sky (social media platform)

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Welcome to SUMMARIES, Episode #3

Summaries take some of our best long-form interviews (and even some unpublished ones) and condense them to down to 10 (or so) minutes of pure listening pleasure. 

Summaries are hosted by our digital interns, Alex Ivey and Allison Inverness, and are designed to give you, our valued listeners, just the information you need from each guest. It's a new short-form concept for a fast-paced world. It's the answer to the two-hour podcast you want to listen to but never have the time for.

Each new episode of Summaries will be published right here, on the MAKE IT feed. We think you'll love it as much as we do—now, on to the show.

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Alex and Allison summarize our previously released episode with Scilla Andreen, the CEO and Founder of IndieFlix. So, who is Scilla Andreen? 

Scilla Andreen is an award-winning Producer, Director, Emmy-nominated Costume Designer, Author, CEO, and co-founder of IndieFlix Group Inc., a B2C global streaming and B2B virtual community screening service that delivers content for a purpose to schools and corporations.

Driven by her passion to help filmmakers and do good in the world with film; Scilla is growing the library currently at 4000+ titles to represent diverse voices, marginalized communities and women, Scilla also created the RPM (revenue per minute) royalty payment model to compensate filmmakers for every minute watched. Her work has been featured in The New York Times, Good Morning America, Today, and South China Morning Post. She’s executive produced and/or directed and distributed social impact films, Nevertheless, Screenagers, Angst, LIKE, The Upstanders, Empowerment Project, and Finding Kind. Scilla is currently in production on her latest film, RACE. She is Included in Screen International’s Multichannel Women to Watch, Variety’s Women’s Impact Report, and Puget Sound Business Journal Woman of Influence. She has been a popular speaker at Sundance, Cannes, CES, SXSW, BeBold, and Women in Film. Scilla is also the Founder of IndieFlix Foundation.

Scilla is on a mission to change the world with film.

In this episode, Alex and Allison summarize a conversation with Scilla Andreen, CEO and co-founder of Indie Flicks, a film distribution platform. Andreen discusses her career trajectory, transitioning from costume design on shows like The Wonder Years to producing social-impact documentaries. She details her experiences with bullying and its influence on her work, emphasizing the power of film for racial healing and mental health awareness. Furthermore, she describes Indie Flicks' unique approach to film distribution, focusing on community engagement and providing filmmakers with marketing support. Finally, Andreen shares advice for aspiring filmmakers, stressing the importance of networking, embracing opportunities, and understanding the evolving landscape of film distribution and streaming.

Enjoy, and follow Scilla on Instagram here and watch all her work here. 

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In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with filmmaker Brandon Tamburri, the Director, Writer, and Producer of the indie comedy feature Plan B. Brandon shares his journey of bringing this project to life, from the challenges of raising money during the pandemic to the lessons he learned as a first-time feature film director. The conversation covers a wide range of topics, including Brandon's background in stand-up comedy, the importance of having a strong business plan when pitching to investors, and the creative ways he approached casting without the help of a dedicated casting director.

Additionally, Brandon promotes his new comedy podcast, Joke Zero, which features behind-the-scenes stories and insights from the cast and crew of Plan B. The conversation concludes with Brandon emphasizing the importance of inspiring aspiring filmmakers and entrepreneurs, encouraging listeners to pursue their passions and never give up on their dreams.

Key Topics Covered:

- Navigating the film industry during current events

- Brandon's journey in creating the indie comedy "Plan B"

- Lessons learned as a first-time feature film director

- Strategies for raising money and casting for an independent film

- The pros and cons of various streaming platforms

- Brandon's new comedy podcast, "Joke Zero"

- Advice for aspiring filmmakers and entrepreneurs

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Products, software, websites, people, and places mentioned in the podcast:

Products/Software:

Movie Magic

Breakdown Express

Websites/Platforms:

Apple TV

Microsoft (Movies)

Google Play

Fandango at Home

YouTube TV

YouTube Movies

Joke Zero Podcast

People:

Brandon Tamburri

Ari Aster

John Heder

Jamie Lee

Tom Beringer

Shannon Elizabeth

Vernon Davis

DJ Dodd

Erika Hampson

Sigmund Lubin

Places:

Philadelphia

New Jersey

Mount Laurel

Columbia State Community College (Franklin, Tennessee)

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In this edition of Mistake in the Making, Zair Montes discusses the production challenges faced during the making of the film Rumba Love. Initially, the project was planned to be shot in New York and Havana, Cuba, with funding secured for the Cuban portion. However, difficulties arose in securing additional funds for New York, leading to a two-week production halt in Cuba. Actors' schedules changed, and funding issues persisted for over a year. A key actor refused to continue, necessitating script rewrites and reshoots. A last-minute venue cancellation in New York further delayed production, requiring rescheduling and additional funding. Despite these setbacks, the film was completed and released on Showtime in 2021. Montes emphasizes the importance of having full funding and signed contracts before starting a project and reflects on the resilience required to overcome such challenges.

Lessons Learned and Final Thoughts from this Mistake In the Making:

• Zair Montes reflects on the lessons learned from the production, emphasizing the importance of having full funding and signed contracts before starting.
• She advises against spreading production across multiple locations to avoid rescheduling complications.
• Despite the challenges, the film was a rewarding experience, both spiritually, financially, and professionally.
• Zair Montes promotes her company, Golden Ceiba Productions, and invites viewers to check out their projects on various platforms.

Products, software, websites, people or places mentioned:

Rumba Love (film)

New York Film Office

Cuba Film Office

Havana Film Production

Golden Ceiba Productions (Zair Montes' company)

Zair Montes (filmmaker, producer, actress)

Zair Montes - Instagram (@zairmontes, @goldenceibaproductions)

Rumba Love on Amazon

Rumba Love on Apple 

Check out our full conversation with Zair Here

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Welcome to SUMMARIES, Episode #2

Summaries takes some of our best long-form interviews (and even some unpublished ones) and condenses them to down to 10 (or so) minutes of pure listening pleasure. 

Summaries are hosted by our digital interns, Alex Ivey and Allison Inverness, and are designed to give you, our valued listeners, just the information you need from each guest. It's a new short-form concept for a fast-paced world. It's the answer to the two-hour podcast you want to listen to but never have the time for.

Each new episode of Summaries will be published right here, on the MAKE IT feed. We think you'll love it as much as we do—now, on to the show.

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Alex and Allison summarize our previously released conversation with Filmmaker Jennifer Cooney. So, who is Jennifer Cooney? 

Jennifer Cooney was raised in a small Pennsylvania town, where her earliest and closest influence was her family: a close-knit group of hardworking, leading edge, business owners with hearts of gold. From a very early age, she was an astute observer of her surroundings; no detail, grand or minute, of character or circumstance escaped her attention. She nursed her innate curiosity of the human condition with poetry, photography, psychology, and film, constantly building the mental and emotional library of understanding within her. In college, she followed her passions, studying English, Communication & Rhetorical Studies, Psychology, and Philosophy, graduating with two majors and a double minor, all with Honors. Yet, her hunger to communicate human connection, her yearning to understand the human condition, and her quest to find answers to life's perennial questions remained unsatiated. Then, in a flash of what she can only describe as a Higher Calling, she knew her most authentic truth could only be expressed through the art of film. From that day forward, she has been on a disciplined and heart-driven path of expansion and expression, all ways leading to the Divine Expression of Love, Light, and her Truest Self through her creations. HalfJack Generation is both the platform and the launching pad for her stories. Jennifer is also a four-time published poet, a still photographer, and a painter, residing in the countryside of Pennsylvania with her wife, artist JFo, and three dogs.

In this episode, Alex and Allison summarize a conversation with independent filmmaker Jennifer Cooney. They explore Cooney's concepts of "inner darkness" versus "outer darkness," and discuss her belief in the power of radical honesty and vulnerability as an antidote to the inner darkness we all carry within us. The conversation delves into the role of emotions in the creative process, Cooney's filmmaking approach, and the importance of embracing authenticity and imperfections.

Enjoy, and follow Jennifer on Instagram here and watch her film Wild Fire, here.

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Happy Holidays from Chris, Nick, Papa Bear, Intern Sam, and the team at MAKE IT!

In this episode, the MAKE IT crew discuss their favorite moments from 2024 in a Holiday Season "clip show." Including one showcasing a heated debate between the hosts about the Kendrick Lamar and Drake beef, and another highlighting a discussion about representation in Hollywood.

We also share clips that discuss:

- The importance of authentic representation in media and the need to push Hollywood to better reflect the diversity of the real world

- The challenges independent filmmakers face in securing funding and distribution compared to major studios

- The role of nostalgia and familiarity in driving audiences to sequels and reboots over original content

- The generational differences in attitudes towards sequels and superhero movies

Products, software, websites, people, and places mentioned in the podcast:

- Otter.ai

- Kendrick Lamar

- Drake

- Chasing, Chasing Amy documentary

- Sav Rogers

- Alex Schmider

- GLAAD

- Barbie

- Beetlejuice

- Deadpool & Wolverine

- Inside Out 2

- Toy Story

- Shrek

- Twisters

- Blink Twice

- Humans of New York

- Brandon Stanton

- Winnie the Pooh - Blood and Honey

- Avengers Assemble

- Bambi

- Tinker Bell

- Pinocchio

- Peter Pan

- Sharknado

- Thunder Levin

- Beverly Hills 90210

- Coke Daniels

- Micah Simms

- Nintendo

- Letterboxd

- Chris Blake

- Josh Moody

- Ted Welch

- Motke Dapp

- Eddie Griffin

- Anthony Anderson

- Method Man

- Michael Imperioli

- Bai Ling

- John Amos

- Norman Lear

- Esther Rolle

- Film Riot

- Dexter Strong Buell

- Derek Mindler

- Aaron Irons

- Josh Croft

- Rostam Zafari

- Nicholas Mihm

- LMNT Chocolate Salt

We are humbled to have a community of creatives who care deeply about our work. And your support makes our work possible. Every subscriber, rating, and review matters. 

So, if you like what we're doing, please consider subscribing, rating, or giving us a review. Cheers, and best of luck on your filmmaking journey. #MAKEIT

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In this edition of Mistakes In the Making, filmmaker Natalie Ruffino Wilson shares her experience navigating the challenges of a volunteer film project that went awry. Joined by her husband and filmmaking partner, Kyler Wilson, Natalie recounts the lessons she learned about the importance of clear communication, setting boundaries, and protecting one's creative vision, even in the face of unexpected obstacles.

The conversation delves into Natalie's initial excitement about being invited to direct the volunteer project, where filmmakers were paired with artists, and her subsequent decision to co-direct with a close friend, despite her gut instinct that it was a bad idea. As the project progressed, Natalie found herself doing the majority of the work, only to face a negative response from the artist, who felt that Natalie had taken their work and done something with it without proper acknowledgment.

Natalie and Kyler discuss the importance of having contracts in place, even for volunteer projects, to ensure that everyone's roles and expectations are clearly defined. They also share how this experience taught Natalie to focus her energy on people and projects that align with her values and goals, and the importance of setting boundaries to protect her time and creative vision.

Key takeaways from this Mistake In the Making:

- The importance of trusting your instincts and asking questions or saying no if something feels off from the start.

- The value of surrounding yourself with like-minded individuals who share your passion and values.

- The necessity of having clear contracts and communication to protect your work and expectations, even in volunteer projects.

- The lessons learned about setting boundaries, protecting your time, and being explicit about expectations.

Products, software, websites, people or places mentioned:

Kyler Wilson - Filmmaker and co-founder of Outsider Means

Natalie Rufino Wilson - Filmmaker and co-founder of Outsider Means

Outside Our Means - Kyler and Natalie's production company

Kyler and Natalie's short films

Best Laid Plans - Kyler and Natalie's feature film made during COVID-19

Natalie@outsideourmeans.com - Natalie's email for filmmaking questions

Kyler@outsideourmeans.com - Kyler's email for filmmaking questions

Check out our full conversation with Kyler and Natalie Ruffino Wilson Here

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In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with director, producer, and filmmaker Rich Hull. Rich discusses his 30-year career in media and entertainment, including his work as a film producer and the creation of the largest Spanish-language streaming service, VIX. The conversation delves into Rich's latest project, a documentary film titled Fighting Spirit: A Combat Chaplain's Journey, which he co-produced with Chris Pratt.

We explore the unique role of combat chaplains, the challenges and journey of making the documentary, and the unexpected turn the film took when the story of a famous combat chaplain, Father Emil Kapaon, was uncovered.

Rich shares insights into the filmmaking approach, the parallels between agile development and documentary filmmaking, and the importance of networking and asking for help in the industry.

The episode also features audience polls on the state of teen movies, favorite John Hughes films, and a fact check on the history of the US Army Chaplain School. Rich provides advice on finding financial support and promoting documentaries on a limited budget, as well as discussing the inspiration behind his varied film projects. The conversation culminates in Rich's perspective on defining success and making it in the industry.

We also talk about:

- The impact and reception of the "Fighting Spirit" documentary, including emotional reactions from veterans

- The role of celebrities and influencers in promoting documentary films

- Rich's approach to finding inspiration for his diverse film projects

- The importance of overcoming the fear of asking for help in the industry

- Rich's definition of "making it" and his journey in the entertainment industry

Products, software, websites, people, and places mentioned in the podcast:

- VIX (streaming service)

- "Fighting Spirit: A Combat Chaplain's Journey" (documentary film)

- Columbia State Community College

- Film Crew Technology (FCT) program

- David Smith (FCT program director)

- Nate Boyer (filmmaker)

- "My Octopus Teacher" (documentary film)

- "St. Elmo's Fire" (film)

- "The Breakfast Club" (film)

- "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" (film)

- "Home Alone" (film)

- "Planes, Trains and Automobiles" (film)

- "Sixteen Candles" (film)

- Ronald Reagan (actor)

- Emilio Estevez (actor/director)

- Halle Berry (actress)

- Chris Pratt (actor)

- Matthew McConaughey (actor)

- Darrell Royal (football coach)

- BetterHelp (online therapy platform)

- LinkedIn

- Cotton Bureau (apparel company)

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In this Mistakes In the Making, Kyler Wilson,Director, Writer, and Co-founder of Outside Our Means (Production Company) discuss the importance of having a contract when working with others in the creative industry, even with friends and family, and share a personal experience where not having a contract led to issues on a project.

Summary:

• Kyler emphasizes the importance of having a contract when working with others, even friends and family, to protect your work and relationships
• He shares a personal experience where he developed an entire script based on a vague idea from a collaborator, only to have major changes imposed that he disagreed with, leading to the project stalling
• Kyler and Natalie stress that a simple contract can go a long way in clarifying expectations and protecting all parties involved in a creative project

Topics Covered:

• The dangers of working without a contract, even with trusted collaborators
• Navigating creative differences and changes to a project you've invested significant time in
• Protecting your work and relationships through clear contractual agreements
• Lessons learned from Kyler's experience of having his name removed from a project he co-wrote

Key Learning:

• Research template contracts or seek advice from other filmmakers to protect yourself when collaborating
• Be cautious about taking on projects without a clear, written agreement in place
• Communicate openly with collaborators about creative differences and be willing to walk away if an agreement cannot be reached

Products, software, websites, people or places mentioned:

Kyler Wilson - Filmmaker and co-founder of Outsider Means

Natalie Rufino Wilson - Filmmaker and co-founder of Outsider Means

Kyle Williams - Kyler's best friend, currently working with him on a project without a contract

Outside Our Means - Kyler and Natalie's production company

Kyler and Natalie's short films

Best Laid Plans - Kyler and Natalie's feature film made during COVID-19

Natalie@outsideourmeans.com - Natalie's email for filmmaking questions

Kyler@outsideourmeans.com - Kyler's email for filmmaking questions

Check out our full conversation with Kyler and Natalie Wilson Here

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Welcome to SUMMARIES, Episode #1

Summaries takes some of our best long-form interviews (and even some unpublished ones) and condenses them to down to 10 minutes of pure listening pleasure. 

Summaries are hosted by our digital interns, Alex Ivey and Allison Inverness, and are designed to give you, our valued listeners, just the information you need from each guest. It's a new short-form concept for a fast-paced world. It's the answer to the two-hour podcast you want to listen to but never have the time for.

Each new episode of Summaries will be published right here, on the MAKE IT feed. We think you'll love it as much as we do—now, on to the show.

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Alex and Allison summarize a previously unreleased MAKE IT episode with Filmmaker Lexie Mosby in this episode. So, who is Lexie Mosby, and what did she make?

Lexie Mosby, a 21-year-old senior in college double majoring in film and psychology, is gaining recognition for her compelling and honest independent filmmaking. Her short film Morning Room tackles the intersection of purity culture and sexual assault, a topic she personally experienced. The film portrays a young woman in a Christian relationship who discovers her boyfriend has been molesting her. Mosby's background in psychology informs her complex character portrayals, including a nuanced depiction of the boyfriend. She is also working on two new films, "Hosts" and "After School," which showcase her range in storytelling. Mosby's work is marked by her bravery, authenticity, and the ability to address difficult and often silenced topics.

Enjoy, and follow Lexie on Instagram here.

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In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with plus-size influencer and NAMI (National Alliance of Mental Illness) brand ambassador Phaith Montoya. They discuss strategies for overcoming rejection, the importance of building resilience and support systems, misconceptions about plus-size models, and the impact of social media and influencers. Phaith shares her personal experiences navigating challenges and the role of plus-size models in changing beauty standards.

We also talk about:

• Phaith's experience living in a creator house and the differences in work ethic among influencers
• The importance of authenticity and engagement in building a social media following
• Phaith's strategies for navigating dark spaces and maintaining self-esteem
• Phaith's inspiring definition of "making it" and finding success on her own terms
• The promotion of the Make It Podcast merchandise and ways for the audience to connect with the hosts

Enjoy!

Products, Software, Websites, People, and Places Mentioned:

NAMI (National Alliance of Mental Illness)

Yitty (clothing brand designed by Lizzo)

MAKE IT on Cotton Bureau 

Phaith’s TikTok

Phaith’s Instagram

Phaith’s YouTube

Lena Himmelstein Bryant Malsin (founder of Lane Bryant)

Lizzo

Fifth Avenue, New York (Lane Bryant's original location)

“Last to Leave" creator house

EDC (music festival)

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In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with Writer, Director, and Producer Coke Daniels. They discuss Daniels' journey into filmmaking, from his early days in the hip-hop industry to his transition into directing independent films. Daniels shares insights on the importance of mentorship, the challenges of urban filmmaking, and the inspiration behind his latest film, The Waterboyz.

We Also Talk About:

• Daniels discusses his start in the music industry as part of the hip-hop group Mad Cap, signed to the iconic Loud Records label.

• He talks about how his friendship with comedian Eddie Griffin led to Daniels' first screenwriting opportunity for the film My Baby's Daddy.

• Daniels shares lessons he learned from industry veterans like John Amos, who encouraged him to pursue directing over just writing.

• He explains the inspiration behind The Waterboyz and his goal to portray the Water Boy culture in Atlanta in a positive, nuanced light.

• Daniels offers advice for aspiring filmmakers, emphasizing the importance of perseverance and developing one's craft, even when facing financial challenges.

• Daniels' experiences with code-switching and navigating different social and professional environments.

• The challenges of maintaining authenticity and avoiding stereotypes in urban filmmaking.

• The evolution of comedy in film and the shift towards more suspenseful and horror-driven genres.

• The importance of storytelling and character development in Daniels' approach to filmmaking.

• The impact of technology and AI on the filmmaking process, and Daniels' exploration of these new tools.

Where to Watch The Waterboyz

• Amazon Prime
• YouTube
• Google Play
• Various cable VOD platforms

Products, Software, Websites, People, and Places Mentioned:

• Loud Records
• "My Baby's Daddy" (film)
• "Who Made the Potato Salad" (film)
• "Karen" (film)
• "The Waterboyz" (film)
• Eddie Griffin
• John Amos
• Jeremy Kramer (Miramax executive)
• Spike Lee
• Barry Jenkins
• Todd Field
• Luca Guadagnino
• Sean Baker
• Todd Haynes
• Safdie brothers
• Kinkos
• Busy Bee Cafe (restaurant in Atlanta)
• Hattie B's (restaurant in Nashville)
• Slutty Vegan (restaurant in Atlanta)
• Vegan Junk Food Bar (restaurant in Barcelona)
• Veggie Grill (restaurant)
• Native Foods (restaurant)
• Morehouse College

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In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with actress Katherine Ro about her journey in the entertainment industry, balancing career and family life, and the challenges of voice acting versus traditional acting. They also discuss the importance of independent film festivals, the skills required for stunt work, and insights from industry professionals. The conversation covers a range of topics related to the creative and practical aspects of pursuing a career in the entertainment industry.

We also talk about:

• Nashville Film Festival Recap and Housekeeping
• Chris and Nick discuss the recent Nashville Film Festival, highlighting standout films and notable attendees.
• They emphasize the importance of subscribing and liking the podcast on YouTube to support their indie film journey.
• Prince George County Film Festival Experience
• Nick shares his experience at the Prince George County Film Festival, where he connected with local talent and former podcast guests.
• The hosts discuss the value of supporting local film festivals and the sense of community they foster.
• Katherine’s experience filming the prequel to "The Terminal List" in Budapest.
• Katherine discusses her early interest in entertainment and her transition to acting after starting with modeling and voiceover work.
• Balancing Career and Family Life
• Katherine shares her experiences balancing her career with family responsibilities, emphasizing the importance of communication and support from her husband.
• Katherine discusses the sacrifices and compromises required to pursue a career in the entertainment industry while maintaining a healthy family life.
• Voice Acting vs. Traditional Acting
• Intern Sam presents a poll comparing the difficulty of voice acting versus traditional acting.
• Katherine and the hosts discuss the technical and creative challenges of voice acting, including projection, inflection, and the need for specific training.
• Poll Results and Audience Engagement
• Intern Sam shares the poll results on the most iconic fashion movie… (you must listen to find the answer!)
• We discuss our favorite fashion movies and the performances of actors like Ben Stiller and Adam Driver.
• Stunt Work and Industry Insights
• Producer Papa Bear introduces a trivia question about a prominent Venezuelan stunt actress, Vanessa Mota.
• Katherine discusses the skills and challenges of stunt work, highlighting the unsung heroes of the film industry.

Enjoy! 

Things You Should Research, Support, and Buy:

• MAKE IT YouTube Channel
• Velvety-Soft Tees & Hoodies. We have incredible hats, too! Find them at Cotton Bureau
• Subscribe to our newsletter, Indie Insights
• Katherine’s IMDb
• Katherine’s Instagram: @thekathrynro
• Burger Fiction’s YouTube channel “Watch this amazing compilation “Every Tom Cruise Run Ever.”
• The Terminal List Trailer
• BET+ Original Movie | Whatever It Takes | Trailer

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In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with filmmakers Aaron Irons and Josh Croft about their experiences at the Defy Film Festival, their independent horror films "Chest" and "Jeffrey's Hell," and their overall approach to low-budget, authentic filmmaking. The conversation covers the importance of community, resourcefulness, and staying true to one's creative vision in the independent film industry. The hosts and guests also discuss the horror genre, the challenges of marketing films, and the value of streaming platforms for indie filmmakers.

Enjoy!

The show notes include the following:

Introduction and Music Discussion

Chris Barkley introduces the podcast and guests Aaron Irons and Josh Croft, along with co-host Nick Buggs and discussion of the concept of "sophomore slump" in music.

Defy Film Festival and Chest Movie

• Aaron Irons and Josh Croft discuss the significance of Defy Film Festival and their experience with the premiere of their film "Chest."
• Chris clarifies a previous misunderstanding about the availability of an audio-only episode with Gail Ann Hurd on YouTube.

Defy Festival Highlights and Jeffrey's Hell

• Josh Croft provides details about the Defy festival and the unique experience of attending.
• Aaron Irons talks about the sequel to "Chest," titled "Jeffrey's Hell," and its unconventional production process.

Found Footage Genre and Streaming Platforms

• Discussion of the found footage genre, its popularity, and the financial realities of filmmaking.
• Insights into the found footage community and the importance of streaming platforms like Tubi for independent filmmakers.

Filmmaking Philosophies and Future Plans

• Aaron Irons and Josh Croft talk about their approach to filmmaking, emphasizing resourcefulness and practicality.
• They express a preference for maintaining creative control and not being beholden to external funding.

Polls and Audience Engagement

• Intern Sam introduces polls about the best horror director and the best Tim Burton movie.
• The conversation includes a discussion about the significance of these directors and their contributions to the horror genre.

Final Thoughts and Closing Remarks

• Reflections on the poll results and the importance of community support and resourcefulness in filmmaking.
• Guests express gratitude for the support and excitement for their upcoming projects.

Here is a bulleted list of the products, software, websites, and other items mentioned in the conversation:

- Tubi

- Stash Chills and Thrills (YouTube channel)

- Letterboxd

- Full Moon Cineplex (Hermitage, TN)

- Defy Film Festival

- Chest (film)

- Jeffrey's Hell (film)

- Hey, I Made This for You (film)

- Bonsai.film

- Cotton Bureau

- Indie Insights newsletter

- Chris' X Page (social media platform)

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In this episode, Chris and Nick talk to David "D. Bird" Birdsall, the co-founder of the White Collar Rhymes Discord community. They discuss D. Bird's experience organizing a music project that brought together internet friends from around the world to create The Last Mixtape album and documentary in a mansion in Austin, Texas.

The conversation covers the challenges of filming the project, the distinct qualities of Northwest hip hop, the influence of artists like Atmosphere and Aesop Rock, and D Bird's thoughts on the use of AI in music.

We also talk about:

• The early days of DJing and its evolution as an instrument
• The impact of the recent rap beef between Drake and Kendrick Lamar
• The importance of truth and verifiable claims in diss tracks
• The potential for AI to dominate certain music genres, like mid-level country
• The first hip hop film, "Wild Style," and the preservation of hip hop history

Enjoy!

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In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with Director and Cinematographer Tiffany Murray about her experiences working in the film industry directing, shooting, and trying her hand at producing. They discuss her recent film, 2 Lives in Pittsburgh, and the challenges of independent filmmaking. The conversation also explores issues of inclusivity in the workplace and how to foster respectful collaboration.

We also talk about:

• Tiffany's background and past projects, like the Southbridge podcast

• The complexities and costs of producing a high-quality podcast 

• The impact of social media algorithms on content success and the importance of strategic marketing

• Technical decisions made during the production of 2 Lives in Pittsburgh.

• Systemic issues that contribute to passive aggression and lack of agency in professional settings

Enjoy!

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In this episode, Chris and Nick talk about the upcoming Nashville Film Festival, the recent Sundance Film Festival host city announcement, and the Make It Podcast reaching a major milestone of 100,000 subscribers on YouTube.

They also discuss the legacy of the late James Earl Jones, analyze box office trends, and dive into audience reception of Disney live-action remakes.

We also talk about:

• The potential impact of Sundance moving to different host cities and how it could have affected the Nashville film scene

• The collaborative nature of filmmaking and the potential consequences of halting projects due to allegations against individuals

• The complexities of separating the art from the artist and the nuances of enjoying the work of controversial figures

• The role of bots and social media in shaping public perception and outrage around these issues

• The challenges American audiences face in embracing international sports and the cultural differences that contribute to this

• Audience perceptions of Disney's live-action remakes

• The cultural impact and rise of musician Bad Bunny

• Recommendations for Adam Sandler's family-friendly film offerings

Enjoy!

Bodega Artist of the Week

LO LA

Track: happy 4 u

Lola Ficks-Chen, better known as LO LA is a Los Angeles based indie pop artist and a one woman team. Known for her infectious lyrics and sweet melodies, she has developed her own unique sound and amassed millions of streams all on her own terms. In "happy 4 u" she dives into the complexities of dealing with exes and the reality of a heartbreak. The dark electro pop track is supported with a pulsating bass line and makes listeners feel as if they’re stuck in a trance. Coupled with honest and raw lyrics, LO LA holds nothing back as she deals with the emotional complexities of a breakup.

Website

TikTok

Instagram

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In this episode, Chris and Nick talk about Director Mike Day's transition from accounting to producing and directing, his work on major Hollywood films, and the challenges of managing film budgets. They discuss Mike's directing style and influences, as well as the marketing strategy for his latest film "Clawfoot." The conversation also includes insights from polls on classic Hitchcock movies and the greatest action directors, as well as a story about a famous director's costly mistake at the airport.

We Also Talk About:

• The importance of perseverance and gratitude in Mike's journey as a filmmaker
• The challenges of making independent films and getting them noticed in Hollywood
• The role of the dominant culture and its influence on the stories that get told in film
• The value of building a strong body of work and demonstrating competence as a director
• The significance of honest and effective marketing for independent films

Enjoy! 

Bodega Artist of the Week

Kendra Erika

Track: Ghost

Kendra Erika is an American singer-songwriter known for her captivating blend of pop and EMD. With influences ranging from Madonna to Lady Gaga, Kendra Erika crafts infectious melodies and heartfelt lyrics that resonate with audiences worldwide. Her music often explores themes of love, empowerment, and self-discovery, drawing listeners into her world with each captivating track. "Ghost" explores themes of love, loss, and longing, with Kendra Erika delivering a haunting vocal performance that resonates with listeners. The song's production combines atmospheric synths, driving beats, and catchy hooks, creating a captivating sonic landscape.

Website

TikTok

Instagram

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In this episode, Chris has a conversation with acclaimed film and television producer Gale Anne Hurd. Hurd discusses her storied career, including her start working for legendary producer Roger Corman, her breakout success producing The Terminator, and her influential work on iconic projects like Aliens and The Walking Dead. Throughout the conversation, Hurd shares valuable insights and advice for aspiring filmmakers and producers.

We Also Talk About:

• Gale Anne Hurd introduces herself and her background as a producer of films like The Terminator, Aliens, Armageddon, and the TV series The Walking Dead.
• Hurd shares how her first interview with Roger Corman in 1978 led to her becoming a producer despite initially thinking she would be interviewed for an assistant role.
• Hurd discusses the key skills and qualities essential for successful directors and producers, including having a clear vision, prioritizing, working well with others, and being a team player.
• Hurd reflects on common mistakes she has observed producers make, such as not being fully prepared and trying to "fake it until they make it. " She emphasizes the importance of paying your dues and developing the necessary skillset.
• Hurd provides insights into her approach to marketing and pitching projects, highlighting the value of effective copywriting and visual aids in presentations.
• Hurd shares advice for aspiring filmmakers and producers, stressing the importance of not faking it, being willing to do any legal task, and sacrificing to pursue a career in the industry.
• Hurd discusses the challenges she faced as a woman in the film industry in the 1980s and the progress made, emphasizing the importance of having a support system and not giving up during tough times.
• Hurd shares her contact information and social media presence, including her Twitter handle @gunnerGale, and nods to her support for the Arsenal Football Club.
• Hurd's favorite story about her mentor, Roger Corman, and the valuable lessons she learned from him
• The importance of delegating and not trying to do everything yourself, as Hurd learned early in her career
• Hurd's thoughts on the value of union work and the debates around hiring union versus non-union crew members
• Hurd's advocacy for women and diversity in the film industry and the tools and strategies she has used to overcome challenges
• Hurd's experience with meditation and self-care as a way to stay resilient and optimistic during difficult times in her career

Enjoy! 

Gale on the web:

https://valhallaentertainment.com/

https://x.com/valhallapics

https://x.com/GunnerGale

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In this episode, Chris and Nick discuss the challenges facing the animation industry as it grapples with the potential impact of AI and Warner Brothers' $8.5 billion investment in Nevada, which is contingent on a film tax credit incentive bill.

We also talk about:

- The phenomenon of sequel fatigue and Hollywood's reliance on franchises

- The importance of marketing in the success of independent films

- The need for a new approach to judging the profitability of independent films

- The results of polls on the best rap or hip hop movie and the potential for biopics on various rappers

- Final thoughts and reflections on the changing landscape of the film industry

Enjoy!

Bodega Artist of the Week

Certainly So

Track: Patience

Certainly So is what you get when four long-time friends and musicians, who never seemed to be in the same band, discover what they’d been missing; sparking the birth of a new quartet. The melding of classic influences and unique tastes of each member with an extreme desire to make music that is reminiscent but entirely new and relevant is the perfect recipe for new-age hits. In “Patience,” the band explores a toxic relationship's tumultuous ups and downs. The song has a sweet melody that carries listeners into a building crescendo filled with drums, guitar, soaring strings, and swirling vocals. By the end, it reaches an emotionally chaotic peak while still remaining vulnerable.

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Instagram

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In this episode, Chris has a conversation with Linda Nelson, the CEO and co-founder of Indie Rights, a leading independent film distribution company. They discuss Linda's journey from a small town in upstate New York to becoming a pioneer in the indie film distribution space, including her experiences with the NSYNC concert film, the challenges of making independent films, and the strategies she and her partner Michael Madison have used to build a successful distribution business. Linda shares valuable insights on filmmaking, distribution, marketing, and overcoming setbacks in the industry.

Show Notes:

• Linda Nelson's background: math major, art/psych minor, early career in banking and real estate
• Making the NSYNC concert film and the legal issues that followed
• Transitioning to independent filmmaking and the challenges of working out of a public storage facility
• The importance of persistence and embracing technology in the film industry
• Linda's parents' influence on her creativity and entrepreneurial spirit
• The impact of streaming services on independent filmmakers and the opportunities in emerging markets
• Indie rights' distribution model and the importance of providing filmmakers with detailed analytics
• Strategies for effective film marketing and building an audience through social media
• Recommendations for essential filmmaking books and advice on overcoming setbacks
• Linda's favorite Italian restaurants in LA and the importance of travel in expanding one's worldview

We Also Talk About:

• Linda and her partner Michael's complementary skills and roles in running Indie Rights
• The importance of proper music licensing and creating "network-friendly" versions of films
• The evolution of distribution platforms and the need for filmmakers to stay adaptable
• Linda's recommendations for essential filmmaking books and the importance of reading for inspiration
• Chris and Linda's shared experiences of growing up in modest, small-town environments and the impact on their creative pursuits

Enjoy! 

Bodega Artist of the Week

Rochelle Bloom - Time Remember (feat. Renee Gardner)

Hailing from Northwest Indiana and now calling Atlanta home, Rochelle Bloom has established herself as an undeniable force. Her music embodies a happy place with dark corners, where rhythm, rhyme, and unfiltered truth converge in explosive songwriting. With her own unique style of rap mixed at times with an abstract spoken word cadence, this artist weaves poetry into her music. This song evokes imagery of a tropical paradise in the telling of an intimate love story. 

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In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with documentary filmmakers John Kirby and Libby Handros. They discuss their 25-year partnership and their upcoming documentary film cycle "Four Died Trying," which explores the major assassinations of the 1960s. The conversation covers topics such as state involvement in these assassinations, the lack of transparency around the investigations, and the importance of understanding history and promoting positive social change.

Show Notes:

• John Kirby and Libby Handros discuss their 25-year partnership in documentary filmmaking, including their work on the festival favorite "The American Ruling Class" and their current project, "Four Died Trying."
• The guests share details about their interviews with over 130 people, including Bob Groden and the late Dick Gregory, for their "Four Died Trying" documentary series, which explores the assassinations of John F. Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy, Malcolm X, and Martin Luther King Jr.
• The group discusses the lack of transparency and documentation around the JFK and RFK assassinations, in contrast to the civil trials and FBI documents that have emerged for the Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. assassinations.
• They explore the international implications of Malcolm X's work and the Kennedys' connections to Africa, as well as the role of the Warren Commission and Operation Gladio in obscuring the truth about these events.
• The conversation touches on the challenges of researching and discussing conspiracy theories, the importance of critical thinking and independent research, and the preference for conflict-driven narratives in documentaries.
• The guests share their insights on the power of nonviolent resistance, the legacy of Dick Gregory, and the need for more positive and uplifting stories in filmmaking.

We also talk about:

• The attempted assassination of Donald Trump and the timing of the release of a documentary about the event
• The importance of the Warren Commission and its handling of the JFK assassination investigation
• The concept of "patsies" in high-profile assassinations, such as Sirhan Sirhan in the RFK case and James Earl Ray in the MLK case
• The lack of a Truth and Reconciliation committee to address the assassinations of the 1960s
• The influence of the military-industrial complex and big oil interests on the presidency, particularly in the case of Lyndon B. Johnson

Bodega Artist of the Week

Amy Jay - Joke

New York based singer/songwriter Amy Jay harnesses the power of vulnerability and introspection with euphonious indie-folk music that captures the afflictions of humanity and explores the depths of emotionality. “Joke” asks if life is just one big joke when things don’t go as planned or when crazy events happen in the world. While its lyrics are moody, they are tinged with hope that there might be an explanation.The drums establish a pounding rhythm from the opening notes, giving the song an urgent, restless feel. The insistent beat seems to represent the endless march of days where nothing makes sense. The guitar melody echoes the anxiety expressed throughout.

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In this episode, Chris Barkley and writer Jason McConnell revisit MAKE IT episode #248, "Indie Film Investment From A to Z - EVERYTHING You Need To Know Before You Wire Funds." They discuss the popularity of the original episode, the chemistry between the hosts, and the unique perspective it provided on investing in indie films from a producer's point of view. The conversation covers topics such as filmmaking, investing, pimp culture, originality in creative work, and the importance of long-term commitment and reputation in the industry.

We Talk About:

- Podcast popularity and chemistry between hosts

- Investing in indie films from a producer's perspective

- Filmmaking, investing, and pimp culture

- Originality in filmmaking, avoiding cliches, and the importance of honesty in creative work

- Crazy, including John Wayne Gacy, and a possible "crazy line" in film

- Being a long-term player in filmmaking, with insights on risks and trust

- The importance of commitment and dedication in filmmaking and investing

- Technology's impact on creativity and society

- Film industry contracts and their impact on filmmakers

- Film investing, importance of understanding filmmaker's perspective

- Filmmaking and why certain projects are better suited for certain mediums

- Filmmaking, budgets, and executive producers

- Acting, filmmaking, and the importance of personal brand

- Filmmaking, reputation, and transactional relationships

- Chickens, prepping, and homesteading

- Podcasting, filmmaking, and e-book promotion

Enjoy! 

Bodega Artist of the Week

Jake Simon - Dream Of You

Originally from New Haven, CT, Jake Simon is a classically trained guitarist who started releasing music in 2018. His production style features soulful guitars, analog synthesizers, and classic drum machines to produce chilled out indie R&B tracks with elements of Rap and Pop. "Dream Of You" is smooth as silk. This feel-good, laid back R&B track takes listeners through a dreamy journey of desire, fate and love. His song “Lay Low” was synced in Season 5 of the hit CW series “All American.”

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In this episode, Producer Chris Barkley and Writer Jason McConnell discuss the ins and outs of investing in independent films. They cover topics such as the importance of good judgment, risk management, and negotiation strategies for investors. They also dive into the key factors to consider when evaluating film investment opportunities, including understanding the filmmakers' vision and motivations, building a "moat" around the business, and navigating the complexities of film distribution.

Show Notes:

• The importance of good judgment and risk management in film investment
• Negotiating for creative and business control as an investor
• Evaluating film investment opportunities based on the filmmakers' "why" and ability to execute
• Building a "moat" around a film business through branding and networking
• The challenges of finding profitable film investment opportunities and avoiding short-term players
• The role of contracts, lawyers, and due diligence in film investment
• Strategies for increasing deal flow and building trust with filmmakers
• The impact of tax incentives and debt financing on film investment
• The importance of prioritizing personal brand and impactful projects in indie film investing

Enjoy!

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In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with producer, author, entrepreneur, and activist Dr. Christian Gregory. They discuss Gregory's work building sustainable consumer brands through his company 3E and continuing the legacy of his father, comedian and activist Dick Gregory. Christian shares stories from his childhood and lessons learned from his father about health, the environment, and using one's platform to inspire change.

We also talk about:

- Christian's experience growing up on his family's organic farm and the values instilled in him by his parents around health, environment, and community

- The work Christian did in his Chiropractic practice and how it informed his views on health, wellness, and the impact of lifestyle choices

- 3E's mission to build sustainable consumer brands and roll up existing brands to help them tell their stories through an environmental, social, and governance lens

- The importance of understanding new technologies like AI and remaining engaged to help guide their development and impact 

- Tips for taking care of one's mind, body, and soul through lifestyle choices and maintaining a balanced relationship with technology

And an all-new Things We Should Know and Culture Check —

Enjoy!

Bodega Artist of the Week

b3cca - Pictures

Rebecca Seatle, professionally known as b3cca, is a talented singer-songwriter and multi-instrumentalist hailing from NYC. Drawing inspiration from diverse genres, including pop, R&B, and electronic music, b3cca's music captivates audiences with its catchy melodies, heartfelt lyrics, and soulful vocals. "Pictures" is one of b3cca's standout tracks, showcasing her emotive songwriting and soulful vocals. The song delves into themes of nostalgia, longing, and the passage of time as b3cca reflects on memories captured in photographs.

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In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with entertainment lawyer Joshua Lastine. They discuss the current state of the film industry and how private equity investment has impacted storytelling. Joshua provides insight into his work representing indie filmmakers and navigating contracts in Hollywood. He emphasizes the importance of proper legal protections for independent creators.

We also talk about:

- The upcoming Silver Surfer movie and casting a female lead in the role

- How strikes and increased costs have impacted opportunities for writers, actors, and other creatives 

- The roles of agents, managers, and lawyers in negotiating deals and protecting clients' interests

- Examples of celebrities insuring their body parts for commercial value

- Cultural heritage and representation in films, including Hawaiian and Lao influences

Enjoy!

Bodega Artist of the Week

Royalty Statements - FOCUSED (feat. Tifa)

Producer duo Royalty Statements are known for their dynamic and eclectic music, heavily rooted in their Caribbean cultures. The combination of DUMI’s Haitian background and SOIGNÉ’s Dominican Republic culture, along with a core group of collaborators from all around Latin America, has helped the two build a signature sound that encompasses a variety of genres like Hip Hop, Konpa, Dancehall, Soca and Dembow. "FOCUSED" is a fun and Caribbean-inspired track highlighting the hard work, determination, and sacrifice it takes to excel. The song features vocals from Jamaican artist Tifa, one of the top female deejays in the Reggae and Dancehall space.

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In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with documentary filmmaker Sav Rogers and producer Alex Schmider about identity, trauma, and inclusion in filmmaking. They discuss Sav's documentary "Chasing Chasing Amy" and the challenges of representation in Hollywood. Sav and Alex also share their perspectives on building communities outside of traditional systems.

We also talk about:

• Sav's journey making 'Chasing Chasing Amy' and the personal story it tells
• The importance of authentic representation and avoiding monolithic stories
• The financial challenges independent filmmakers face and lack of sustainable careers
• Problems with traditional distribution models and the importance of education resources
• Building communities and support systems outside of Hollywood

Enjoy!

Bodega Artist of the Week

JEMS - Bury It

Through rich three-part harmonies, JEMS weaves stories, sounds, and raw emotion with a shimmering fervor. Listeners of all kinds can’t seem to resist the songwriting prowess and vocal alchemy of the trio made up of Singer/Songwriters Emily Colombier, Jessica Rotter and Sarah Margaret Huff. “Bury It” combines a lot of their own experiences and those of people in their lives who have had to hide who they are to fit in or be comfortable existing in their surroundings – it’s a reflection on being true to oneself and the consequence of repressing pain and ignoring inner truth.

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In this special bonus episode, Chris and Nick host a webinar with filmmaker and educator John Fitzgerald. Jon Fitzgerald shared his expertise on advancing your filmmaking career through festivals, pitches, and working with gatekeepers. Chris and Nick provided additional insights from their experiences in the film industry.

We also talk about:

• Strategies for networking and following up with contacts at film festivals
• Setting clear goals for your film and festival process
• Properly preparing pitch materials like budgets, schedules, and pitch decks
• Understanding the roles of different types of industry representation like agents, managers, and producers reps
• Advice for pitching feature films and television shows

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In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with filmmaker and festival director Jon Fitzgerald. They discuss Jon's career path from filmmaker to festival director, his advocacy work helping other filmmakers, and his efforts to leverage film for social change. Jon shares insights from his experiences running festivals, making documentaries, and advising other creatives.

We also talk about:

• Jon's experience being rejected from Sundance and subsequently founding the Slamdance Film Festival
• Tips for running a successful film festival, including budgeting, sponsorship, and engaging the local community
• The value of film education versus hands-on experience in the industry
• Resources Jon provides for filmmakers, including his book, courses, and podcast
• Upcoming projects like Jon's narrative film "Impressions" and a new platform called Fest Source

Indie Artist Spotlight

Artist: The Thing With Feathers

Track: Can You See Me

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The Thing With Feathers is an alt-rock, indie pop, and dance powerhouse. The crew’s natural, quirky swagger and stellar musicianship have resulted in a catalog of equally introspective and uncomplicated tunes dedicated to booty-shakers everywhere. “Can You See Me” is an exciting and dynamic alt-rock and indie-pop track full of contrasting textures and gritty, raw tones.

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On this episode of the MAKE IT podcast, Chris and Nick discuss their passion for filmmaking and creativity. They explore questions of love and doubt, barriers to creative expression, and industry insights. The hosts also analyze characters from GI Joe, power dynamics in Hollywood, and the appreciation of artists at film festivals.

We also talk about:

- Political views expressed at comedy shows and how audiences prioritize their interests

- The Netflix show “Baby Reindeer” and its exploration of susceptibility to abuse in the entertainment industry

- The impact of the Internet on personal lives and relationships

- Industry relationships, “ghosting,” and the importance of being good to one another

- Drinking a local vodka brand and supporting local businesses

Enjoy!

Indie Artist Spotlight

Artist: Bryce Green

Track: Boom (feat. 81m)

Bryce Green is a rapper, singer, and one of the most exhilarating hip-hop artists to emerge on the scene, whose fierce lyricism, electrifying charisma, and melodic singing set fire to any scene. These guys are capable of anything, paired with a production duo of 81m. His hard-hitting rap anthem “Boom” has been used in the series “Rookie: Feds” and “Bel-Air” and has had two other songs used in national commercials for Pizza Hut. 

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In this episode, Chris talks with Actor Sara Antonio. They discuss her acting journey and experiences in television and film, sharing insights into scene study techniques, audition strategies, and mental wellness in the industry. Sara also reflects on memorable roles and working alongside icons like Louis Gossett Jr., offering advice he imparted to younger performers.

We also talk about:

• Sara's role on the ABC/Hulu series Will Trent and her approach to character development 
• Inspiration drawn from performances of Tatiana Maslany and Alison Brie
• Working with icons like Dolly Parton and upcoming projects
• Tactics for dealing with rejection in the industry and maintaining confidence
• Tips for fostering empathy in storytelling and audiences

Enjoy!

Indie Artist Spotlight

Artist: Goodvibes Sound

Track: I've Been Here Before

Goodvibes Sound are Alex and Angus, two friends who live in London and record out of their basement studio in a former corner shop. They make disco-infused indie pop, with lyrical themes touching on love, mindfulness, and modern life in the city. "I’ve Been Here Before" explores this back-and-forth that we all experience throughout life. While the lyrics discuss feelings of isolation and loneliness, the contrast between mellow verses and catchy high-energy choruses evokes this repetitive cycle.

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In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with filmmaker Nathan Rigaud. Nathan shares his background and experience in filmmaking, including working on sets and creating his own animated content. They discuss challenges in the indie film industry and the importance of proper planning, collaboration, and starting small. The group also explores early underwater filmmaking and personal experiences with sharks.

We also talk about:

• Nathan discusses the structure of his animation company, Whale Animation Studios, and his leadership style.
• The speakers debate the benefits of roles like production assistant for learning filmmaking skills.  
• The group shares differing opinions on movies and the personal nature of storytelling.
• Payment challenges in the film industry are explored, including options for protection.
• Papa Bear shares details of the 1914 experimental underwater film "30 Leagues Under the Sea" and its controversial shark attack scene
• Nick shares an all-new CULTURE CHECK

Enjoy!

Indie Artist Spotlight

Artist: Call Me Ace

Track:  FIRST GEN ANTHEM

This highly gifted, multi-faceted artist lives a double life. By day, he works in Silicon Valley; by night, he transforms into the prolific Bay Area rapper Call Me Ace. In both roles, he’s a total boss, working diligently to uplift disenfranchised communities, spread positive vibes, and celebrate culture. If your parents are not from the country you live in now, “FIRST GEN ANTHEM” is your theme song. When your home is a second nation, there’s a certain way you have to navigate life: one where every step you take is the epitome of “innovation.”

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In this episode of The MAKE IT Podcast, Chris and Nick discuss the current state of film, television, and streaming content. They delve into topics around content overload, authenticity, influencer personas, and actors' early roles. The hosts also play a trivia game, guessing actors' first feature films and providing film recommendations.

We also talk about:

• The impact of too much content on meaningful conversations and shared experiences around entertainment
• Maintaining personas as influencers and the challenges of breaking persona 
• Mike Tyson's boxing style and persona shift compared to a child throwing a tantrum
• Representation and authenticity in films, discussing the movie "Monkey Man"
• Playing a trivia game where Nicholas guesses the first feature films of various actors

Enjoy!

Housekeeping: The show Chris called the 3 Body Project is actually titled, 3 Body Problem. Guy Ritchie’s new series is called The Gentleman, and the YouTuber Chris can’t remember is Mrwhosetheboss. Finally, Mike Tyson is fighting Jake Paul (not Logan). 

Indie Artist Spotlight

Since their inception, California-based duo PRXZM (pronounced “prism”) has been enthralling global audiences with their distinct fusion of '80s-infused synth-pop. Emma and Nick have consistently transformed their craft, blending mesmerizing vocal performances with ethereal synths across four EPs and an upcoming album. “In A Way” paints a sparkly, ethereal dreamscape that almost hypnotizes you out of feeling the emotions the lyrics invoke, is an ode to a healthy breakup, or a healthy end to something that never was, or never could be.

Artist: PRXZM 

Track:  In A Way

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In this episode, we have a conversation with Cinematographer Micah Simms. Chris interviews Micah about his career journey and experiences working in commercials and films. They discuss Micah's passion for the craft of Cinematography and his collaborative work with Directors like Motke Dapp.

We also talk about:

- Techniques for lighting and shooting scenes effectively 
- Challenges of the film industry and finding work-life balance
- Maintaining integrity through difficult content decisions 
- Advice for aspiring cinematographers starting out

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Indie Artist Spotlight

Morning Silk is a New York-based alternative indie rock/pop recording project led by Frank Corr. Signature drums, synth sounds, and a wall of screaming guitars can be recognized as Morning Silk's production style. So Fun is a made-up story written in Italy about a time-traveling being from the 1700s who follows someone he found outside in his estate's garden into a portal and is transported into a dance club in the future.

Artist: Morning Silk

Track: So Fun (Remix)

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In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with filmmakers Dexter Strong Buell and Derek Mindler about their experiences in the indie film space, including Dexter's recent short film "The South Shore" and Derek's work as a cinematographer. They also discuss challenges in filmmaking and education, using new technology like 360 videos for location scouting, and an upcoming film school in New York City focused on below-the-line skills.

We also talk about:

- The differences between working on indie film sets versus studio sets

- Finding success through creative solutions in the indie film world

- Bridging the gap between film education and the current film industry

- A student-made feature film that was widely distributed on Amazon Prime after starting as a high school short

- The cultural impact of low-budget films that are financially successful but not necessarily well-received critically

Enjoy!

Indie Artist Spotlight

Artist: Steve Lewis 

Track: Get You

Recording artist Steve Lewis is a writer and performer who can take a listener to a special place, one where the music transports you and time slips away. While straddling the line between riff rock and melodic lyricism, his material evokes stylists like Kurt Vile and Mac DeMarco while luxuriating in steady grooves and high energy. “Get You” is a high-energy rock tune with a celebratory and conversational lyric about the excitement and optimism of finding a new love.

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In this episode, Chris has a conversation with Jason Padgitt, Executive Director of the Nashville Film Festival. They discuss Jason's role and responsibilities at NaFF, the film selection process, balancing industry and artistic interests, and the future of AI in filmmaking. Enjoy this insightful conversation about the inner workings of a major independent film festival.

We also talk about:

- Importance of music and music-based films to NaFF
- Balancing industry influence with artistic integrity in programming
- Role of technical quality versus storytelling in film selections

- Managing filmmaker expectations for a music-focused regional festival
- Trends in annual programming "points of view"
- Role of opening credits in assessing a film
- Potential for new "Best AI Film" categories in the future

Enjoy!

Indie Artist Spotlight

Artist: The Familiar

Track: Starry Eyes

Above the Arctic Circle during Norway’s season of darkness, a chance encounter between an American and a Norwegian spawned a transatlantic musical partnership called The Familiar. The duo of native New Yorker Ruth Mirsky and Tromsø-born producer Mads Martinsen is the northern lights meeting the skyscrapers of New York. "Starry Eyes" tells the story of a woman that knows the odds are stacked against her, but remains optimistic that if she follows her best instincts, satisfaction will arrive. A pebble starts a landslide right?

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In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with Angus Benfield about his career as an Actor, Producer, Writer and Director and his upcoming film "The Keeper" which tackles the important issue of veteran suicide. They discuss Angus' process for bringing real stories to the screen, finding financing for independent films, and keeping creative energy as a filmmaker. Chris and Nick also have a thoughtful conversation with Angus about the role of artificial intelligence in the film industry and whether it could replace human storytelling.

We also talk about:

• Angus' experience living in New Zealand for 9 years and dealing with earthquakes
• Sharing stories about transforming physiques and perceptions from high school 
• Comparing strategies for raising film funds like crowdfunding vs finding investors  
• Debating the importance of spelling and handwriting in the digital age
• Pitching ideas like a standalone movie theater candy store

Enjoy!

Indie Artist Spotlight - Mom Rock

Featured Track: Bullseye

Originally formed at Berklee, this Nashville-based Power-pop trio is tearing up the indie scene with a sound that evokes iconic 90’s rock bands like Weezer and Cake. Since their 2017 debut, they’ve racked up millions of streams, rocked packed houses, and cut catchy anthems that landed them a feature in Rolling Stone Magazine. The song is about everyone having a soft underbelly – insecurities, anxieties, shortcomings. Being an artist and putting art into the world is one of the most vulnerable undertakings there is, and we wanted to examine that vulnerability in a fun, campy way.

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In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with Daril Fannin and Austin Worrell from Kino Studios. They discuss challenges in the film industry and opportunities for new models to empower creators through technology. Daril and Austin share their experiences and explain their mission to build efficient tools through Kino Studios to help filmmakers launch globally and connect with audiences.

We also talk about:

- The meaning of "making it" in the film industry and how technology can empower creators
- Challenges in the current entertainment system, including unfair contracts and lack of transparency 
- The mission and features of Kino Studios' digital premiere app to help filmmakers launch globally
- Inefficiencies in film marketing and distribution that new models could improve
- The potential for education and training programs to develop emerging storytellers

Enjoy!

Indie Artist Spotlight

niko! 

niko! Is the moniker of Colombian-American musician and songwriter Nick Maxwell, a gifted young bedroom producer cooking up some really cool Alternative R&B.

He has garnered over 400,000 streams and was featured on Apple Music’s Editorial Playlist, “Brown Sugar."

Taking inspiration from Childish Gambino’s “Redbone", niko! taps into a sultry and raw side of R&B that’s filled with lo-fi synths and off-beat drums, which help deliver an experimental indie aesthetic. As the second single off of his upcoming project, ‘Love Fi’, this track specifically deals with themes of desire, doubt, and the way a person makes another feel.

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In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with Actor, Writer, and Producer Jordan Charles about his film project "Brothers in Arms," which explores themes of family, redemption, and the impact of war through two brothers separated at a young age. Jordan shares how his own family history influenced the film and informed his perspective as an artist.

Chris and Nick provide insights into navigating the creative and business sides of independent filmmaking, as well as using art as a platform for activism.

We also talk about:

- Podcasting, filmmaking, and communication
- Creativity, hobbies, and sharing interests
- Activism, art, and environmentalism
- Filmmaking and the importance of understanding both creative and business sides
- Independent vs. studio films' emotional impact

Enjoy!

Indie Artist Spotlight

Helen Kebede

Helen is an independent Pop and R&B artist from the DMV, like my co-host Nick and Producer Joe. She has been writing songs for over a decade and gained notable recognition when her track "Bitter Bitch" was featured in the Netflix movie 'Do Revenge.' A broad spectrum of artists, from Michael Jackson to Britney Spears and ABBA, influenced Helen's music.

Helen aims to provide an escape for listeners, crafting songs that resonate with their emotions and experiences. She's deeply involved in the creative process of songwriting and producing and making music videos, showcasing her multifaceted talent. Helen's journey reflects a passionate commitment to her artistry, combining nostalgic elements with a contemporary twist to create a unique sound that stands out in today's music scene. 

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The MAKE IT podcast amplifies the voice of the filmmaker by exploring the filmmaking journeys of actors, writers, directors, producers, and a host of other creatives from across the film industry.

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In this episode, Chris and Nick talk with Adam Schartoff, the host of the long-running podcast Film Wax Radio. They discuss Adam's experience maintaining a podcast for over 790 episodes and the challenges of keeping enthusiasm and motivation over many years. They also debate strategies for film festival juries and screeners, the importance of festivals for filmmakers, and whether certain mainstream films deserve criticism.

We also talked about:

- Adam's experience reviewing films for online publications and conducting interviews for the Tribeca Film website

- Favorite film critics like Peter Travers and Roger Ebert and their different reviewing styles  

- The movie recommendation platform Letterboxd and film review aggregator Metacritic

- Netflix's challenges in promoting diverse and award-worthy films to audiences

- Films mentioned like Maestro, Killers of the Flower Moon, The Zone of Interest, and American Fiction

- Visiting the Auschwitz concentration camp and the impact it left

- The controversial Sundance film "Jihad Rehab"

- Adam's potential for future film projects drawing from personal experiences

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The MAKE IT podcast amplifies the voice of the filmmaker by exploring the filmmaking journeys of actors, writers, directors, producers, and a host of other creatives from across the film industry.

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In this episode, we are joined by filmmaking partners Nicholas Mihm and Rostam Zafari. They discuss their filmmaking partnership, their new documentary 'Bubjan,' their nonprofit work promoting Iranian culture, and future projects exploring physician burnout through animation and entrepreneurship through documentary storytelling.

We also talk about: 

• Nicholas Mihm shares his background in independent filmmaking based in Los Angeles with features like In the Dark Valley and Helen Believe.

• Rostam discusses meeting Brandon Stanton of Humans of New York and collaborating on a 54-part series about his grandfather Parviz, which inspired the short film 'Bubjan'.

• We delve into Stanton's unique interviewing style that helps subjects feel vulnerable and gain deeper self-understanding, as well as the challenges of editing down hours of footage into a short film.

• Rostam explains the nonprofit Nimruz's work using art and education to promote Iranian cultural values of equality, freedom, and justice in the face of oppression.

• Future projects discussed include an animated documentary on physician/nurse burnout and an episodic series following entrepreneurs making a positive global impact.

• And, an all-new Things We Should Know from Producer Papa Bear.

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The MAKE IT podcast amplifies the voice of the filmmaker by exploring the filmmaking journeys of actors, writers, directors, producers, and a host of other creatives from across the film industry.

**Warning: Early in this episode, Chris says that Charlton Heston was not in a lead role in the iconic film Ben-Hur. This is obviously insane and a short-term hallucination because Ben-Hur is one of Charlton's most iconic roles.** Apologies!

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In this episode, Chris and Nick speak with Acting Teacher and Co-Founder of JDS Actors Studio, Diane Strand. Diane shares her extensive background working in the entertainment industry, where she has taken on many roles including actor, author, speaker, and nonprofit founder. She discusses her philosophy of bringing authenticity to acting through thoroughly developing characters and understanding their motivations. Diane also provides details about her annual DigiFest event, a multi-day film festival and workshop that brings together emerging creators with top industry professionals. 

We also talk about… 

• Acting techniques: Diane emphasizes bringing authenticity to characters by developing their backstories and finding truth in their motivations and behaviors.
• The role of artificial intelligence in content creation
• The difference between auditioning and actual performance as an actor. 
• When performing a role, why actors are expected to say the lines as written in plays and stick closely to the script in films.
• Why she believes Television is harder and better than feature film. 
• And, an all-new Things We Should Know.

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The MAKE IT podcast amplifies the voice of the filmmaker by exploring the filmmaking journeys of actors, writers, directors, producers, and a host of other creatives from across the film industry.

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A few corrections from episode 364:

• Charlton Heston was in Ben Hur - but not as a primary actor. He was in a scene in which he rode a horse. 
• Our social media handle on Instagram and X are @_makeitpodcast (not @themakeitpodcast). However, you can find us at www.themakeitpodcast.com

In this episode, Chris and Nick discuss blockchain technology and its potential applications in the film industry with Chris J. Davis, Co-Founder and CTO of Film.io.

We also talk about… 

• Chris J. Davis explains his vision for using blockchain to democratize film financing and distribution by bringing fans, creators, and investors together on one platform.
• The conversation explores the history of blockchain in film, including the first movie released and purchased with cryptocurrency.
• Potential future applications of NFTs and smart contracts for additional content, rewards programs, and independent verification of project support are discussed.
• Challenges of regaining public trust after past blockchain hype and issues are addressed.
• Possibilities that major studios like Disney may adopt blockchain-based models to enhance fan engagement and monetization of ancillary content are considered. 
• And, an all-new Things We Should Know from Producer Papa Bear.

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The MAKE IT podcast amplifies the voice of the filmmaker by exploring the filmmaking journeys of actors, writers, directors, producers, and a host of other creatives from across the film industry.

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In this episode of The Make It Podcast Chris & Nick recapped 2023 and looked ahead to 2024. They reflected on their favorite films of the year, including BlackBerry and American Symphony, and the best guests of the year including Linda Nelson (and more). They also analyzed the implications of the New York Times lawsuit against OpenAI for copyright infringement and how it could change the industry. 

They also... 

• Debate over musical styles of 90s R&B groups
• Consideration of how to give and receive notes to improve as filmmakers
• Importance of maintaining one's artistic voice when receiving feedback
• Exploration of themes in films like Leave the World Behind produced by the Obamas
• A brand new 'Things We Should Know.'

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The MAKE IT podcast amplifies the voice of the filmmaker by exploring the filmmaking journeys of actors, writers, directors, producers, and a host of other creatives from across the film industry.