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Ep. 426

AI will give your brand an actual voice.

Kipp dives into the hottest trend in AI that not many are talking about—Voice AI—and how it’s set to revolutionize your brand’s customer experience. Learn more on why real-time voice is the new marketing channel you can’t afford to ignore, how foundational advances from OpenAI and Thinking Machines make AI conversations faster and more human than ever, and the steps every marketer should take to define, audit, and upgrade their brand’s voice in the age of AI.

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• GPT‑Realtime‑2 https://openai.com/index/advancing-voice-intelligence-with-new-models-in-the-api/

• Thinking Machines https://thinkingmachines.ai/

• Willow Voice https://willowvoice.com/

• ElevenLabs https://elevenlabs.io/

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Ep. 425

You can create a second brain in 15 minutes and for free.

Kipp and Matt Wolfe (Future Tools) dive into how to build your own "second brain" using tools like Obsidian and Codex, so you can finally make use of all the information you’re gathering. Learn more on setting up a personal wiki to organize your knowledge, harnessing AI-powered agents to automate and interlink content, and turning your information hoarding into proactive recommendations and smarter business decisions.

Mentions

• Matt Wolfe https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-wolfe-30841712/

• Future Tools https://futuretools.io/

• Obsidian https://obsidian.md/

• Obsidian Web Clipper https://obsidian.md/clipper

• Codex https://openai.com/codex/

• Claude Code https://code.claude.com/docs/en/overview

• Cursor https://cursor.com/

• Andrej Karpathy https://karpathy.ai/

• Visual Studio Code https://code.visualstudio.com/

• Notion https://www.notion.com/

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Ep. 424

“I can't go a single second without someone asking me what the heck answer engine optimization is.”

Kipp and Kieran have Beeri Amiel (Product at HubSpot and founder of XFunnel) and Aja Frost (Sr. Director of Global Growth and Paid at HubSpot) dive into the launch and demo of HubSpot's brand new AEO tool, built to track your visibility in answer engines and help you win the next evolution of search. Learn more on building your AEO strategy, measuring share of voice and sentiment, and using actionable insights to drive results your boss will love.

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• Aja Frost https://www.linkedin.com/in/ajafrost/

• Beeri Amiel https://www.linkedin.com/in/beeri-amiel/

• HubSpot AEO Portal https://clickhubspot.com/aeo

• Dell https://www.dell.com/en-us

• HP https://www.hp.com/us-en/home.html

• Lenovo https://www.lenovo.com/

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Ep. 423

There’s one Claude skill that will separate you from the other AI content.

Kipp and Kieran dive into how AI content creation is broken—and how you can use the “Opposite Start” framework to break out of the red ocean of repetitive ideas and truly stand out. Learn more on why most marketers use AI the wrong way, how to find blue ocean ideas by inverting mainstream narratives, and practical strategies to turn AI into an ideation powerhouse—not just a content machine.

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• Claude https://claude.ai/

• Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/

• LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/

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Ep. 422

How can you differentiate valuable content from generic AI-generated slop?

Kipp dives into how to create non-commodity content that AI and your competitors can't replicate, giving you an edge in the new search-driven world. Learn more on the crucial differences between commodity and non-commodity content, the six key checkpoints every marketer should hit (like proprietary evidence, expert takes, and a real point of view), and how to use a free grader tool to level up your blog, landing pages, and newsletters for better rankings and more traffic.

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• Barry Schwartz https://x.com/rustybrick

• Danny Sullivan https://www.linkedin.com/in/dannysullivan

• Dharmesh Shah https://www.linkedin.com/in/dharmesh

• Brian Halligan https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianhalligan

• Claude https://claude.ai/

• Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/

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Ep. 421

What if your team burned through your entire AI budget in just six months?

Kipp and Kieran dive into the wild world of “token maxxing”—the new Silicon Valley trend of spending as much as possible on AI tokens without clear outcomes. Learn more on why AI token usage is skyrocketing, the difference between “token maxxing” and “outcome maxxing,” and powerful frameworks every marketing leader can use to turn AI spend into real business growth.

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• Nvidia https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/

• All In Podcast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwW8GKwHB3I

• Claude https://claude.ai/

• Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/

• Manus https://manus.im/

• Gemini https://gemini.google.com/

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Ep. 420

In AI search,, relevancy matters more than authority.

Kipp, Kieran, Beeri Amiel (Product at HubSpot and founder of XFunnel), and guest Sam Parr (Host of My First Million) dive into how AI-driven answer engines are disrupting traditional SEO and what marketers must do to adapt. Learn more on how AEO (Answer Engine Optimization) is changing the rules of search, why citation and content relevance matter more than authority, and what tools and tactics you can implement to succeed in the new era of AI search.

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• Sam Parr https://www.linkedin.com/in/parrsam

• My First Million https://www.mfmpod.com/

• Hampton https://joinhampton.com/

• The Hustle https://thehustle.co/

• Beeri Amiel https://www.linkedin.com/in/beeri-amiel

• XFunnel https://www.xfunnel.ai/

• HubSpot AEO Portal https://clickhubspot.com/aeo

• Ahrefs https://ahrefs.com/

• Google Search Console https://search.google.com/search-console/about

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Ep. 419

How do you publish 250 pieces of content per week with zero employees?

Kipp and Sabrina Ramonov of Blotato, dive into the exact AI-powered content workflow that built a 2 million-person audience—all as a solo creator. Learn more on building repeatable brand voice skills with AI, automating content creation from raw images, and managing an entire social media calendar through smart connectors and tools. Sabrina Ramonov is on a mission to teach 1 million people AI. She’s the solo founder of Blotato.com, an AI SaaS app for creators and entrepreneurs to go viral on multiple social platforms like me (0 to 500k+ in 6 months solo).

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• Sabrina Ramonov https://www.youtube.com/@sabrina_ramonov

• Blotato https://www.blotato.com/

• Claude Cowork https://support.claude.com/en/articles/13345190-get-started-with-claude-cowork

• Airtable https://www.airtable.com/

• Canva https://www.canva.com/

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Ep. 418

Did you know tools like ChatGPT and Claude are already telling your customers to buy from your competitors—and you might not even know it? 

Kipp dives into the rise of Answer Engine Optimization (AEO) and how AI search engines are transforming the way businesses are found and recommended online. Learn more on why traditional Google search is no longer enough, how AI-driven recommendations are shaping customer decisions, and the must-do strategies to ensure your brand shows up across every major AI-powered search engine.

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• ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/

• Claude https://claude.ai/

• Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/

• Zendesk https://www.zendesk.com/

• Intercom https://www.intercom.com/

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Ep. 417

Everyone told you the blog is dead—but the data proves we were all wrong.

Kipp, Kieran, Aja Frost (Sr. Director of Global Growth and Paid at HubSpot), and Beeri Amiel (Product at HubSpot and founder of XFunnel) dive into how answer engines like ChatGPT, Claude, and Google Gemini are reshaping how companies get discovered online, and why your blog matters more than ever. Learn more on real-world AEO (Answer Engine Optimization) insights, why blog posts and listicles dominate AI citations, the science of influencing robots (not just people), and the new playbook for building trust across YouTube, Reddit, and LinkedIn.

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• Aja Frost https://www.linkedin.com/in/ajafrost/

• Beeri Amiel https://www.linkedin.com/in/beeri-amiel/

• XFunnel https://www.xfunnel.ai/

• ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/

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• Gemini https://gemini.google.com/app

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Ep. 416

Is your AI marketing output stuck at "just okay" no matter how much you refine your skills?

Kieran dives into why building better skills isn’t enough—and shares the Pixar-inspired secret to world-class, distinctive results with AI. Learn more on the crucial difference between skills and the foundational context layer, harnessing "brain trust" principles to transform your marketing, and the four foundational files every marketer needs to move from average to extraordinary content.

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• Claude Code https://code.claude.com/docs/en/overview

• Pixar https://www.pixar.com/

• Edwin Catmull https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Catmull

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Ep. 415

What if you could turn AI into your second brain?

Kipp, Kieran, and guest Kevin Hutson (Futurepedia) dive into the levels of AI maturity and how marketers can go from AI novices to master workflow builders. Learn more on the step-by-step journey to AI fluency, the power of building reusable AI skills, and how to leverage tools like Manus to automate complex marketing workflows and outperform the competition.

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• Kevin Hutson https://www.youtube.com/@futurepedia_io

• Futurepedia https://www.futurepedia.io/

• Manus https://manus.im/

• Glean https://www.glean.com/

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Ep. 414

How do you create killer ads when you don’t have a marketing team or big budget? 

Kipp dives into testing out Replit’s latest AI ad generation tool live, showing how anyone can validate ideas and iterate ad creative faster than ever. Learn more on crafting powerful prompts that drive results, iterating your way to great creative without breaking the bank, and navigating the pitfalls and possibilities of AI-powered ad creation on platforms like LinkedIn, Google, and Instagram.

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• Replit https://replit.com/

• Claude Opus 4.6 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-6

• Willow Voice https://willowvoice.com/

• Base44 https://base44.com/

• Lovable https://lovable.dev/

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Ep. 413

What if you could design a website just by describing what you want?

Kipp has Matt Wolfe (Future Tools) dive into Google's new Stitch tool, which uses AI to turn your prompts into polished web designs—no coding or design experience required. Learn more on how Vibe Design changes the way marketers build landing pages, why Stitch could replace legacy tools like ClickFunnels, and how you can export and iterate your site ideas directly inside Google's workflow.

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• Matt Wolfe https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-wolfe-30841712/

• Future Tools https://futuretools.io/

• Google Stitch https://stitch.withgoogle.com/

• Google AI Studio https://aistudio.google.com/

• Figma https://www.figma.com/

• vibe design https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/google-labs/stitch-ai-ui-design/

• ClickFunnels https://www.clickfunnels.com/

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Ep. 412

How fast can you build a viable marketing tool with AI?

Kipp and Kieran dive into building a Creator Hub app on air, showing real-time problem-solving, iteration, and what it takes to turn an AI prototype into an MVP tool. Learn more on leveraging AI for creator partnerships, the behind-the-scenes process of live building with Perplexity Computer and Claude Code, and the surprising bugs, breakthroughs, and best practices when using these tools for marketers chasing innovation.

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• Perplexity Computer https://www.perplexity.ai/computer/new

• Claude Code https://claude.com/product/claude-code

• Wispr Flow https://wisprflow.ai/

• Manus https://manus.im/

• Codex https://openai.com/codex/

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Ep. 411

“Most marketing teams are scaling with AI right now, and the output is getting worse and worse”

Kieran dives into the 5 essential future roles every marketing team needs to master AI and stand out as AI transforms the industry.  Learn more on why simply creating more content with AI isn’t enough, how brands like Unilever and Coca-Cola are experimenting (and sometimes struggling) with AI-driven marketing, and which new roles—like prompt strategist and agent ops manager—will define successful marketing teams in the era of autonomous agents.

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• Unilever https://www.unilever.com/

• Claude https://claude.ai/

• Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/

• Veo3 https://aistudio.google.com/models/veo-3

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Ep. 410

The aftermath of the webinar is more important than the presentation itself.

Barbara Jovanovic, Co-Founder of Startup Cookie, dives into the secrets behind building a zero-employee marketing agency powered by AI, as outlined by Barbara. Learn more on automating content creation from webinars and podcasts, building custom AI agents for personalized marketing workflows, and maximizing team collaboration with streamlined tech stacks and distribution strategies.

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• Barbara Jovanovic https://www.linkedin.com/in/barbara-startup-cookie/

• Zapier https://zapier.com/

• Claude https://claude.ai/

• HeyReach https://www.heyreach.io/

• Instantly https://instantly.ai/

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Ep. 409

Why do some content ideas go viral while others flop?

Kieran dives into building an AI-powered content team that can research, analyze, draft, and constantly improve your marketing output. Learn more on orchestrating 11 essential AI-driven content skills across workflows, crafting personalized audience profiles and writing styles, and using feedback loops to supercharge your content system month after month.

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• Substack https://substack.com/

• Ahrefs https://ahrefs.com/

• Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/

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Ep. 408

Did you know most teams aren't even clear on how their own workflows actually happen—and AI can help fix that, today?

Kipp and Kieran dive into the essential steps to transform your work with AI, including a free, $20,000-level AI consulting skill you can use right now. Learn more on how to identify gaps in your daily tasks using AI assistants, the best ways to implement and scale AI-first workflows (even if you're a total beginner), and how high-agency, low-tolerance teams are accelerating their transformation.

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Ep. 407

Did you know that 84% of people surveyed have never used AI?

Kipp and Kieran dive into why the biggest threat to your business isn’t the competition or the economy—it’s your own inability to integrate AI, and how closing the gap between potential and reality is the key to outsized growth. Learn more on why new AI models aren’t the game-changer you think, what most businesses get wrong when adopting AI, and the practical steps you can take to redesign your workflows and build an AI-native company.

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• OpenAI https://openai.com/

• Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/

• ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/

• Claude https://claude.ai/

• Google DeepMind https://deepmind.google/

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Ep. 406

Is AI just building too much clutter in your workflow?

Kipp and Kieran dive into the rise of super agents like Perplexity Computer, Manus, Claude Code, and OpenClaw, and share actionable ways to harness their power for marketing teams. Learn more on the core use case every AI company is chasing, best practices for integrating AI into your daily workflow, and how to iterate on skills to unlock creative, efficient marketing results.

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• Manus https://manus.im/

• Claude Code https://code.claude.com/docs/en/overview

• Claude Cowork https://support.claude.com/en/articles/13345190-get-started-with-cowork

• Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/

• OpenClaw https://openclaw.ai/

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Ep. 405

Did you know it’s possible to build and launch a fully interactive inbound marketing campaign—including research, copy, and lead magnets—without writing any code or ever touching a conventional workflow tool?

Kipp, Kieran, and guest James Dickerson (co-founder of Boring Marketing) dive into the world of Claude Code, demystifying how Learn more as they break down the real power of Claude Code—including what makes it radically different from using Claude in the browser, how to use skills to multiply what you can accomplish, and tactical advice for automating website and campaign launches from scratch.

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• James Dickerson https://www.linkedin.com/in/jadickerson/

• Boring Marketing https://boringmarketing.com/

• Claude Code https://code.claude.com/docs/en/overview

• Replit https://replit.com/

• Cursor https://cursor.com/

• Firecrawl https://www.firecrawl.dev/

• Playwright https://playwright.dev/

• Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/

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Ep. 404

Will every business have a creative agency “coworker” powered by AI?

Kipp, Kieran, and Patrick Haede (founder of Superscale AI) dive into how autonomous advertising agents are revolutionizing paid ads—making it possible for any business, no matter the size or budget, to compete with the world’s biggest brands. Learn more about how AI-driven agents can democratize access to high-quality ad production, why creative prompting gives marketers an edge in a world where everyone can generate hundreds of ads, and how onboarding and training your ad agent unlocks superhuman marketing performance.

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• Patrick Haede https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickhaede/

• Superscale https://superscale.ai/

• Similarweb https://www.similarweb.com/

• Shopify https://www.shopify.com/

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Ep. 403

Can you build a team of AI assistants—like a competitive researcher, content strategist, and world-class data analyst—all inside your email inbox?

Kieran dives into how AI specialists can supercharge your productivity right from your inbox. Learn more on setting up inbox-native AI agents, why bespoke email-based delegation beats chatbots, and the game-changing workflows for competitive analysis and content repurposing—all done through your email.

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• Mail Manus https://manus.im/features/mail

• Airtable https://www.airtable.com/ 

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• Claude https://claude.ai/

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Ep. 402

How to get your own personal game changing autonomous agent.

Kipp and Kieran dive into how Meta’s newly acquired Manus AI agent quietly outpaces the hype around OpenClaw—making autonomous agents accessible, useful, and genuinely transformative for marketers and beyond. Learn more on why Manus might just be better than OpenClaw, how you can set up your own personal AI agent in just minutes, and the power of “skills” for unlocking workflows across email, messaging, and even content creation.

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Ep. 401

There's a huge social network for agents—where humans aren’t allowed to post.

Kieran dives into how a weekend project became an autonomous AI ecosystem, changing how we interact with the web. Learn more about the meteoric growth and viral community of OpenClaw, the wild agent-only social network Moltbook, the real-world security challenges that come with autonomous agents, and how you can safely get started experimenting with your own AI agent today.

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• OpenClaw https://openclaw.ai/

• Moltbook https://www.moltbook.com/

• OpenAI Codex https://openai.com/codex/

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Ep. 400

Can you automate the most painful, time-consuming parts of marketing with AI—without sacrificing creativity or results?

Kipp and Mike Futia (Founder of SCALE AI) dive into Mike’s real-world blueprint for AI-powered social trendspotting and creative production for brands. Learn more on building custom AI tools (no coding experience required), the line between automation and human creative input, and which AI workflows actually move marketing metrics instead of making more work.

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• Apify https://apify.com/

• Claude https://claude.ai/

• n8n https://n8n.io/

• Zapier https://zapier.com/

• Make.com https://www.make.com/

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Ep. 399

We are now transitioning from vibe coding to vibe working?

Kieran dives into the historic evolution of AI from a tool you chat with to a team you manage, and why this changes the future of work. Learn more on the rise of agentic AI teams that autonomously handle projects, how Claude and similar models are embedding themselves directly into essential tools like Excel and PowerPoint, and why mastering outcome-based thinking (rather than task-based delegation) will separate those who thrive in the "vibe working" era from those left behind.

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Ep. 398

Are slides the most underappreciated format of content on the internet—and has AI totally changed how we should use them?

Kipp, Kieran, and Kristin Fracchia of Gamma, dive into the new world of automated, AI-powered slide workflows that turn every sales call, meeting, or brainstorming session into a high-impact visual deck. Learn more on using AI for automated sales follow-ups, brainstorming from data sources like Slack channels, and creating stunning, animated presentations—all with tools that make slides faster, more effective, and way more fun.

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• Gamma https://gamma.app/

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Ep. 397

If you’re not building systems for creative work, are you falling behind?

Kipp and Lior Albeck (CEO and Co-Founder of Weavy) dive into how AI is radically changing creative marketing and why system-building is now essential to stay competitive. Learn more on how to break down the mindshift every team needs, how to future-proof your creative assets, and the secrets behind building an AI-native company—plus, practical ways anyone can start systematizing their creative process today.

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• Weavy https://www.weavy.ai/

• Figma https://www.figma.com/

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Ep. 396

Could ChatGPT become a $47 billion ads business by matching Google’s user monetization?

Kipp and Kieran dive into the massive opportunity for marketers as ChatGPT and AI platforms launch new ad products. Learn more on three gold rush opportunities in the coming wave of AI ads, how intent-based advertising will change conversion rates and ROI, the new playbook for building apps and review sites, and why better analytics and targeting will transform your marketing strategy for 2026.

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Ep. 395

Making market research more efficient and way cheaper.

Kipp and Kieran dive into why Manus may be the world’s best marketing analyst—and why most marketers are sleeping on it. Learn more on how you can unlock high-value, easy-to-use market research, competitive intelligence, and actionable insights by combining Manus with SimilarWeb data, see how to model budgets using real traffic benchmarks, and watch as Kipp and Kieran turn cutting-edge research into killer presentations and website designs in minutes.

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Ep. 394

Is automating comments with AI the future of marketing, or a path to disaster?

Kipp and Kieran dive into the controversial rise of AI marketing agents and why automating community engagement could ruin what makes marketing—and the Internet—remarkable. Learn more on why human-crafted content and authentic participation build real brands, the problems with automating community interactions, and how to use AI as a powerful assistant instead of a shortcut to mediocrity.

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Ep. 393

233 million views in just three days — can AI-generated ads really replace million-dollar productions?

Kipp, Kieran, and guest, PJ Accetturo, of Genre.ai, dive into the wild world of AI-powered commercial workflows and the viral David Beckham ad that’s turning heads across the industry. Learn more about AI-driven creative teams, the tools behind photorealistic video production, and the emerging future—where hyper-niche stories thrive and challenger brands outsmart the incumbents.

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Ep. 392

Is this the ChatGPT moment for business productivity?

Kipp Bodnar dives into why Claude Cowork represents a seminal moment in AI for business use, breaking down how it empowers non-technical users to work faster and smarter than ever. Learn more about what makes Cowork unique (local file access and true desktop integration), how AI can automate your workday (from building strategies to batch-creating assets), and why this could be the biggest AI leap for business since ChatGPT.

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Ep. 391

Is 2026 the year of the AI backlash?

Kieran Flanagan and Kipp Bodnar dive into what the growing resentment toward AI content means for marketers and how to stand out by embracing human creativity and expertise. Learn more about why authenticity is becoming the ultimate growth strategy, how brands like Equinox are flipping AI slop into standout campaigns, and the practical steps you need to succeed in a world overwhelmed by generic, automated content.

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• Equinox AI Ads https://www.instagram.com/p/DTIsY5tkrSB/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

• Patagonia 2011 New York Times ad https://www.patagonia.com/stories/planet/activism/dont-buy-this-jacket-black-friday-and-the-new-york-times/story-18615.html

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Ep. 390

How long does it really take to make a realistic AI video ad?

Kipp and Kieran dive into a step-by-step tutorial for creating high-quality, believable AI-powered videos, even if you’re not a video expert. Learn more on how to develop a creative concept that AI tools can’t replace, the essential workflow for using Veo 3.1 and Nano Banana Pro, and why reference images are the secret to seamless video scenes. This episode breaks down the process and tips to help you master AI video creation faster and smarter.

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• Nano Banana Pro https://gemini.google/overview/image-generation/

• ElevenLabs https://elevenlabs.io/

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Ep. 389

What are the five AI skills every marketer needs to win in 2026?

Kipp and Kieran dive into the top five AI launches and must-have skills transforming marketing in 2026, breaking down what matters amid an overwhelming wave of new technology. Learn more on using Gemini 3 for content remixing and competitive intelligence, mastering next-level image and video creation with cutting-edge models like Nano Banana Pro and Veo 3.1, and the critical importance of automation, agentic workflows, and vibe coding to unlock 10x marketing scale.

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• Gemini 3 https://gemini.google.com/app

• Claude Opus 4.5 http://anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-5

• Nano Banana Pro https://gemini.google/overview/image-generation/

• Veo 3.1 https://deepmind.google/models/veo/

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Ep. 388

Did you know that deep domain expertise—not just engineering chops—is now the critical skill for building powerful AI workflows? 

Kipp and Tina Huang, data scientist and YouTuber, dive into how anyone can use tools like ChatGPT and n8n to stop customers from leaving by automating and personalizing your workflows for true impact. Learn more on identifying the right problems to automate, the essential components of building AI-powered agents, and the cultural and organizational strategies to actually get your team on board and drive change.

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Ep. 387

Can you really build a viral content creation app in under 10 minutes?

Kieran dives into the rapid process of building an AI-powered app that transforms any YouTube video into viral talking points you can use across all your content channels. Learn more on how to craft educational hooks, develop spicy takes, and leverage actionable data nuggets to fuel your social media, newsletters, and more. Find out how you can use this workflow—and build your own suite of internal tools—to supercharge your team's creativity with cutting-edge AI.

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Ep. 386

How can you turn painstaking manual data analysis and deck-building into just minutes of work?

Kipp and Kieran dive into the new cloud workflow that will save you hours every week and change your reporting forever. Learn more on creating interactive dashboards from messy CSVs, uncovering actionable insights with a single prompt, and using AI to auto-generate executive-ready decks—no more pivot tables, manual graphs, or painful copy-paste.

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Ep. 385

Kipp, Kieran, and Ethan Smith, CEO of Graphite, dive into the data behind the real state of SEO, debunking the myths that SEO is dead and uncovering what’s really changing with the rise of answer engine optimization. Learn more on whether LLMs are really overtaking search, how marketers should invest between SEO and AEO, and the most repeatable tactics to rank #1 on Google and show up in AI-generated answers.

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• Graphite https://graphite.io/

• Ahrefs https://ahrefs.com/

• ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/

• Grok https://grok.com/

• Claude https://claude.ai/

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Ep. 384

Did you know that Gemini 3 can build an interactive landing page in less than 10 minutes?

Kieran and Logan Kilpatrick, of Google, dive into the paradigm-shifting capabilities of Google’s Gemini 3, showing marketers exactly how AI can transform creative workflows and level up your marketing game. Learn more on using Gemini 3 for vibe coding viral apps, turning landing pages into interactive user experiences, rapid image and video prototyping with Nano Banana Pro, and visualizing campaign data for instant insights.

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• Gemini 3 https://aistudio.google.com/models/gemini-3

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Ep. 383

Can 50 people really do the work of 500 in the new AI era?

Kipp, Kieran and guests Grant Lee, co-founder and CEO of Gamma, and Kristin Fracchia, who leads Marketing at Gamma, dive into the revolutionary AI workflows and org design lessons powering Gamma’s $2B company—plus how any team can scale smarter with fewer resources.  Learn more on building lean, high-growth teams with generalists over specialists, scaling creative and professional workflows with AI, bridging the gap between AI-first startups and Main Street businesses, and the hacks and use cases driving productivity for millions. Recorded live at GROW Europe.

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Ep. 382

The Opus 4.5 model is “mind blowing”.

Kieran dives into how the latest advances in AI are transforming the marketing playbook, showing you real-world use cases you can implement today. Learn more on using Claude Opus 4.5 to create interactive customer personas, building dynamic dashboards to analyze campaign performance (and make smarter budget decisions), and remixing content into multiple formats with powerful new AI tools.

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Ep. 381

Google’s new Nano Banana Pro feature inside NotebookLM can complete tasks that would “have taken a human hours to do”.

Kipp dives into how game-changing AI features are transforming content creation. Learn more about generating custom infographics and slide decks at lightning speed, building multimedia content for every marketing channel, and personalizing knowledge sharing for teams using Google’s latest AI tools.

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Ep. 380

Is Gemini 3 better than GPT-5?

Kipp and Kieran dive into the seismic release of Gemini 3 and what it means for the future of marketing, search, and AI-driven business tools. Learn more on how Gemini’s state-of-the-art multimodal reasoning unlocks custom interactive apps in search, why dynamic AI-generated UIs signal the end of the blue links era, and how marketers can leverage Gemini to automate research, customer insights, and content more effortlessly than ever before.

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• ChatGPT 5 https://chat.chatbot.app/gpt5

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Ep. 379

Did you know that more than 74% of the new web pages online today contain some form of AI-generated content?

Recording from GROW Europe, Kipp and Kieran dive into how AI is fundamentally disrupting marketing, shifting it from the era of volume to the era of value. Learn more on why trust is moving from brands to individuals and creators, the seismic changes in search and the rise of AI-first answer engines, and how granular data and AI-powered personalization are reshaping paid advertising and email prospecting.

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• GROW Europe https://www.hubspot.com/grow-2025

• Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/

• Claude https://claude.ai/

• Reddit https://www.reddit.com/

• My First Million https://www.mfmpod.com/

• XFunnel https://www.xfunnel.ai/

• VO3 https://www.vo3ai.com/

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Ep. 378

“What matters is that you're building something people want. The VCs will come once they see that there is something exciting.”

Kipp and guest Erica Wenger, of Park Rangers Capital, dive into the hidden playbooks behind companies that actually win in today’s hyper-competitive tech landscape. Learn more on why distribution is the new moat for startups, what it means to build in public and harness cult-like communities, and which AI tools are truly overrated (and underrated) for marketers and founders right now. 

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• beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com/

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Ep. 377

How fast could you build a custom app to grow your newsletter—without writing a single line of code?

Kieran dives into Google’s powerful new AI Code Assistant and how it unlocks a new era of code-powered marketing for businesses of any size. Learn more on the true power of Google’s AI ecosystem, how to automate demand capture and email sign-ups, and practical tips for leveraging AI coding tools to grow your business today.

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• Gemini Code Assist https://codeassist.google/

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