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30 Minutes to President's Club | No-Nonsense Sales

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The #1 sales podcast in the world, fueled by hyper-actionable sales tactics from the top 1% sellers at companies like Salesforce, Gong, Outreach, Slack, LinkedIn, Keller Williams, Northwestern Mutual. 30 Minutes to President's Club cuts all the BS, fluffy mindset stories, and sales academia to give you the most actionable sales tactics that get you to President's Club. Every episode is a supercharged 30 minutes where you'll hear step-by-step breakdowns in every key dimension of sales, including: Prospecting: How to open conversations to triple your pipeline Discovery: How to ask questions that uncover massive pain Process: How to get big contracts over the line Leadership: How to hire and train world class teams. Your founding hosts are Nick Cegelski (3x top enterprise seller) and Armand Farrokh (VP of Sales at 29, ex-Pave, ex-Carta) joined by co-host Mark Kosoglow (CRO @ Catalyst, ex-Outreach).  Whether you're a seller listening to the (SELL) show or leader tuning into the (LEAD) show… Get ready, you're going to President's Club.
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The #1 sales podcast in the world, fueled by hyper-actionable sales tactics from the top 1% sellers at companies like Salesforce, Gong, Outreach, Slack, LinkedIn, Keller Williams, Northwestern Mutual. 30 Minutes to President's Club cuts all the BS, fluffy mindset stories, and sales academia to give you the most actionable sales tactics that get you to President's Club. Every episode is a supercharged 30 minutes where you'll hear step-by-step breakdowns in every key dimension of sales, including: Prospecting: How to open conversations to triple your pipeline Discovery: How to ask questions that uncover massive pain Process: How to get big contracts over the line Leadership: How to hire and train world class teams. Your founding hosts are Nick Cegelski (3x top enterprise seller) and Armand Farrokh (VP of Sales at 29, ex-Pave, ex-Carta) joined by co-host Mark Kosoglow (CRO @ Catalyst, ex-Outreach).  Whether you're a seller listening to the (SELL) show or leader tuning into the (LEAD) show… Get ready, you're going to President's Club.
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FOUR ACTIONABLE SALES TAKEAWAYS

  • Avoid interrogating the prospect with surface level questions, use vertical questions to get deeper and give meaning to your questions
  • Try to avoid putting words into your prospect's mouth or leading them with stereotypical sales questions that make them feel trapped
  • Aim to uncover the prospect's situation, problems, and impacts with questions like "Why did you take the call?", "
  • Recap what you've learned and give back by sharing a story or a very short "harbour tour demo"


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FOUR ACTIONABLE SALES TAKEAWAYS

  • Avoid interrogating the prospect with surface level questions, use vertical questions to get deeper and give meaning to your questions
  • Try to avoid putting words into your prospect's mouth or leading them with stereotypical sales questions that make them feel trapped
  • Aim to uncover the prospect's situation, problems, and impacts with questions like "Why did you take the call?", "
  • Recap what you've learned and give back by sharing a story or a very short "harbour tour demo"


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Published 2024-05-27

#303 - Hall of Fame: Chris Orlob

30 min
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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Ask your inbound leads what prompted them to take the call.
  • Start your calls with outbound leads by calling out that they might not know what you do and explaining the problems you solve. Then make the transition into discovery. 
  • Categorize buyers’ answers into problem language or solutions language. Buyers often answer “problem” questions with solutions, so ensure you get the problem language.
  • Avoid discovery fatigue with a mix of emotionally intelligent techniques. (Examples: quick customer stories, summarizing, questions)


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Co-Founder & CEO @ Stealth Startup
  • Director of Sales & Go-To-Market @ Gong
  • Co-Founder & CEO @ Conversature
  • Regional Sales Manager - New Business @ InsideSales.com 


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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Ask your inbound leads what prompted them to take the call.
  • Start your calls with outbound leads by calling out that they might not know what you do and explaining the problems you solve. Then make the transition into discovery. 
  • Categorize buyers’ answers into problem language or solutions language. Buyers often answer “problem” questions with solutions, so ensure you get the problem language.
  • Avoid discovery fatigue with a mix of emotionally intelligent techniques. (Examples: quick customer stories, summarizing, questions)


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Co-Founder & CEO @ Stealth Startup
  • Director of Sales & Go-To-Market @ Gong
  • Co-Founder & CEO @ Conversature
  • Regional Sales Manager - New Business @ InsideSales.com 


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FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • Do a bi-weekly "pipe squeeze" (pipeline review) with each rep share your screen and take notes as you go to save time & maintain control
  • Discounts drive velocity, when a deal has stalled or there is no next step, use a manager email to see if a pricing incentive will move the close date
  • Ask the same 5 questions in deal review - Deal size, deal close date, buyer buy in, next step, and any incentives on the deal. Send the update to your leader for upward transparency
  • Only have reps forecast deals in pipeline for the month then run the historical math to see what may change both positive or negative


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • COO @ Growth Assistant
  • VP of Sales @ Lattice
  • Sales Director @ Lattice
  • VP of Sales @ Appcues


RESOURCES DISCUSSED

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FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • Do a bi-weekly "pipe squeeze" (pipeline review) with each rep share your screen and take notes as you go to save time & maintain control
  • Discounts drive velocity, when a deal has stalled or there is no next step, use a manager email to see if a pricing incentive will move the close date
  • Ask the same 5 questions in deal review - Deal size, deal close date, buyer buy in, next step, and any incentives on the deal. Send the update to your leader for upward transparency
  • Only have reps forecast deals in pipeline for the month then run the historical math to see what may change both positive or negative


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • COO @ Growth Assistant
  • VP of Sales @ Lattice
  • Sales Director @ Lattice
  • VP of Sales @ Appcues


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FOUR ACTIONABLE SALES TAKEAWAYS

  • Recognize your SE and team members who help you on deals & onsites
  • Call each attendee after a meeting to thank them for their time and ask them for their feedback
  • When pitching an onsite be prescriptive about what's in it for your champion and close with "Do you think your team would be open to something like that" as a softer ask
  • Send a multiple choice pre-meeting survey to each of a meeting's attendees to ask questions about the client's current state


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Commercial Sales Manager @ Procore
  • Account Executive, Enterprise @ Procore
  • Account Executive, Majors @ Procore
  • Account Executive, Mid-Market @ Procore


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FOUR ACTIONABLE SALES TAKEAWAYS

  • Recognize your SE and team members who help you on deals & onsites
  • Call each attendee after a meeting to thank them for their time and ask them for their feedback
  • When pitching an onsite be prescriptive about what's in it for your champion and close with "Do you think your team would be open to something like that" as a softer ask
  • Send a multiple choice pre-meeting survey to each of a meeting's attendees to ask questions about the client's current state


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Commercial Sales Manager @ Procore
  • Account Executive, Enterprise @ Procore
  • Account Executive, Majors @ Procore
  • Account Executive, Mid-Market @ Procore


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Published 2024-05-20

#300 - Hall of Fame: Henry Schuck

28 min
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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Don’t let the fear of breaking rapport prevent you from asking for the next step.
  • Answer the yes-or-no questions and SHUT UP!
  • Figure out their vision through discovery, then tell the story of their business in terms of how other world class teams use you to achieve it.
  • Turn the CEO's team into your champions to get the inside scoop on everything about them beforehand.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • CEO & Founder @ ZoomInfo
  • CEO & Co-founder @ DiscoverOrg
  • Adjunct Professor @ Washington State University


RESOURCES DISCUSSED

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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Don’t let the fear of breaking rapport prevent you from asking for the next step.
  • Answer the yes-or-no questions and SHUT UP!
  • Figure out their vision through discovery, then tell the story of their business in terms of how other world class teams use you to achieve it.
  • Turn the CEO's team into your champions to get the inside scoop on everything about them beforehand.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • CEO & Founder @ ZoomInfo
  • CEO & Co-founder @ DiscoverOrg
  • Adjunct Professor @ Washington State University


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Top performers deal with buyer hesitancy just like everyone else.

Their secret to driving deals forward?

A simple framework for handling indecision.

In this show, Matt Dixon and Jen Allen-Knuth will teach you how to use this game changing framework (called the JOLT effect) to move even the most hesitant buyers forward…

No matter where they are in your sales cycle.


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Top performers deal with buyer hesitancy just like everyone else.

Their secret to driving deals forward?

A simple framework for handling indecision.

In this show, Matt Dixon and Jen Allen-Knuth will teach you how to use this game changing framework (called the JOLT effect) to move even the most hesitant buyers forward…

No matter where they are in your sales cycle.


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FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • Shadowing to remind yourself and your reps of the basics to spot opportunity areas
  • Setting a goal without a "how" is not a real goal, you have to understand how a rep is going to reach the goal while setting them
  • Always level with reps before you shadow a call to clarify the role they want you to play on the call & tell them what you hope
  • Use "Mr.Potato Head" personalization to ramp reps from generic persona based personalizaiton, to trigger based personalization, to full email personalization


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Head of Sales @ Pulley
  • Senior Manager, New Business Sales @ Lattice
  • Director of Sales Development @ Lattice
  • Head of Sales Development @ Lattice


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FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • Shadowing to remind yourself and your reps of the basics to spot opportunity areas
  • Setting a goal without a "how" is not a real goal, you have to understand how a rep is going to reach the goal while setting them
  • Always level with reps before you shadow a call to clarify the role they want you to play on the call & tell them what you hope
  • Use "Mr.Potato Head" personalization to ramp reps from generic persona based personalizaiton, to trigger based personalization, to full email personalization


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Head of Sales @ Pulley
  • Senior Manager, New Business Sales @ Lattice
  • Director of Sales Development @ Lattice
  • Head of Sales Development @ Lattice


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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • When responding to another parties asks in a negotiation, co-create the solution with them rather than going away and making a new offer to ensure they feel like it was a collaborative exercise
  • When prospects do things you like, label their actions positively to give them affirmations and encourage further positive actions
  • When aligning on a solution that works don't agree too quickly because the prospect will think they could've gotten a better deal, use a label like "Seems like that would be a good deal for you..."
  • Use the "Late Night DJ" voice to draw lines without having to say "no" or confront your buyers


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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • When responding to another parties asks in a negotiation, co-create the solution with them rather than going away and making a new offer to ensure they feel like it was a collaborative exercise
  • When prospects do things you like, label their actions positively to give them affirmations and encourage further positive actions
  • When aligning on a solution that works don't agree too quickly because the prospect will think they could've gotten a better deal, use a label like "Seems like that would be a good deal for you..."
  • Use the "Late Night DJ" voice to draw lines without having to say "no" or confront your buyers


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Published 2024-05-13

#296 - Hall of Fame: Miles Kane

28 min
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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Before agreeing to a give, ask what they’re willing to bring to the table.
  • Map out every step of the process to the signature with actions, owners, and dates.
  • Send a recap to the buyer of where they are in the journey after every discovery call.
  • Prime your champion with the nuances of your product / MSA and be ready to jump on a call to hash out the details.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Director, Enterprise Sales @ Drift
  • Former VP Sales @ Altocloud | Acquired by Genesys
  • Former Direct, Sales @ SmartBear


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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Before agreeing to a give, ask what they’re willing to bring to the table.
  • Map out every step of the process to the signature with actions, owners, and dates.
  • Send a recap to the buyer of where they are in the journey after every discovery call.
  • Prime your champion with the nuances of your product / MSA and be ready to jump on a call to hash out the details.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Director, Enterprise Sales @ Drift
  • Former VP Sales @ Altocloud | Acquired by Genesys
  • Former Direct, Sales @ SmartBear


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FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • Ask your reps to think about the "first win" they can make with a large account
  • Look for "Alumni" who have recently left key accounts who might be able to make introductions or provide information for your reps to use
  • Have your reps record "Last Activity" and "Next Meeting" on their opportunities so you can quickly scan through your dashboard and see which deals are at risk and need more attention
  • If your team have opportunities with next steps far into the future ask "did the rep follow up and did they get a response?" if the answer is no more work is needed


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Director of Enterprise Sales, National @ Outreach
  • Enterprise Sales Director, East @ Outreach
  • Strategic Account Executive @ Outreach
  • Territory Sales Executive @ Sitecore


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FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • Ask your reps to think about the "first win" they can make with a large account
  • Look for "Alumni" who have recently left key accounts who might be able to make introductions or provide information for your reps to use
  • Have your reps record "Last Activity" and "Next Meeting" on their opportunities so you can quickly scan through your dashboard and see which deals are at risk and need more attention
  • If your team have opportunities with next steps far into the future ask "did the rep follow up and did they get a response?" if the answer is no more work is needed


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Director of Enterprise Sales, National @ Outreach
  • Enterprise Sales Director, East @ Outreach
  • Strategic Account Executive @ Outreach
  • Territory Sales Executive @ Sitecore


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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Condition your prospect for future interactions by giving them time back in their calendar & leaving them on a positive note
  • Do not talk to people when they are distracted,
  • Labelling someone's emotion builds trust and gets them to tell you more information for example "It seems like the value isn't there for you"
  • If someone is asking for an unreasonable discount get them to think about the potential implication of fit by saying "How are we supposed to deliver {value} while lowering our price?"


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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Condition your prospect for future interactions by giving them time back in their calendar & leaving them on a positive note
  • Do not talk to people when they are distracted,
  • Labelling someone's emotion builds trust and gets them to tell you more information for example "It seems like the value isn't there for you"
  • If someone is asking for an unreasonable discount get them to think about the potential implication of fit by saying "How are we supposed to deliver {value} while lowering our price?"


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Published 2024-05-06

#293 - Hall of Fame: Charles Muhlbauer

32 min
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Four Actionable Takeaways: 

  • Ask educated impact q’s like: “Besides X, Y, Z, what else happens because of A?”.
  • Lean on humbling disclaimers before asking the tough questions. 
  • Bring the future to the present: let’s pretend you love what you see...what happens next?
  • Disco flow: High level context > raise issues > identify key issue > get a story > impact questions > recap and playback.


Charles’ Path to President’s Club: 

  • Sr Biz Dev Training Manager at CB Insights
  • Founder at SalesShare


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Four Actionable Takeaways: 

  • Ask educated impact q’s like: “Besides X, Y, Z, what else happens because of A?”.
  • Lean on humbling disclaimers before asking the tough questions. 
  • Bring the future to the present: let’s pretend you love what you see...what happens next?
  • Disco flow: High level context > raise issues > identify key issue > get a story > impact questions > recap and playback.


Charles’ Path to President’s Club: 

  • Sr Biz Dev Training Manager at CB Insights
  • Founder at SalesShare


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FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • Do a "headhunting drill" and have your new reps call your own executive team
  • SDRs should have 300-400 prospects in sequence
  • Test your rep's call from numbers to be sure they aren't being marked as "spam likely"
  • Sit next to reps with slow workflows to observe what's slowing them down


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Consultant @ Agoge Prospecting School
  • Director of Sales Development @ Vercel
  • Senior Manager of Sales Development @ Outreach
  • SDR Team Lead @ Outreach


RESOURCES DISCUSSED

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FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • Do a "headhunting drill" and have your new reps call your own executive team
  • SDRs should have 300-400 prospects in sequence
  • Test your rep's call from numbers to be sure they aren't being marked as "spam likely"
  • Sit next to reps with slow workflows to observe what's slowing them down


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Consultant @ Agoge Prospecting School
  • Director of Sales Development @ Vercel
  • Senior Manager of Sales Development @ Outreach
  • SDR Team Lead @ Outreach


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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Find your prospect's birthday and then add them to your calendar to send thoughtful notes
  • If a competitor is faltering run a list report of all their customers and prospect them
  • If doing in-person office visits bring a gift to break the ice and leave a memorable impressions
  • If you missed something on a meeting, don't wait until the next meeting, just give the buyer a call on their mobile phone and ask (don't make it awkward)


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Senior Mid-Market Account Executive @ Motive
  • Senior Commercial Account Executive @ Motive
  • Commercial Account Executive @ Motive
  • Sales Consultant & Benefits Advisor @ First Mainstreet
  • Account Executive @ Procore Technologies


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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Find your prospect's birthday and then add them to your calendar to send thoughtful notes
  • If a competitor is faltering run a list report of all their customers and prospect them
  • If doing in-person office visits bring a gift to break the ice and leave a memorable impressions
  • If you missed something on a meeting, don't wait until the next meeting, just give the buyer a call on their mobile phone and ask (don't make it awkward)


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Senior Mid-Market Account Executive @ Motive
  • Senior Commercial Account Executive @ Motive
  • Commercial Account Executive @ Motive
  • Sales Consultant & Benefits Advisor @ First Mainstreet
  • Account Executive @ Procore Technologies


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Published 2024-04-29

#290 - Hall of Fame: Morgan Melo

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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS
  • Use typically language and stories to gain credibility with your prospect, leading to deeper discovery.
  • Ask your champion how they plan on justifying a purchase to the larger org. This aligns you to business level problems and also serves as champion validation. 
  • Mirror multithreading in the sales cycle. Bring a VP for a CXO. Bring an SE for a technical buyer. Bring in product for someone cross-functional.
  • Leverage your own senior leaders to story-tell and pull in the people at power during the demo.

PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB
  • Enterprise Account Executive @ Pave
  • Healthcare & Life Science Account Executive @ Carta
  • Client Strategist @ PwC


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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS
  • Use typically language and stories to gain credibility with your prospect, leading to deeper discovery.
  • Ask your champion how they plan on justifying a purchase to the larger org. This aligns you to business level problems and also serves as champion validation. 
  • Mirror multithreading in the sales cycle. Bring a VP for a CXO. Bring an SE for a technical buyer. Bring in product for someone cross-functional.
  • Leverage your own senior leaders to story-tell and pull in the people at power during the demo.

PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB
  • Enterprise Account Executive @ Pave
  • Healthcare & Life Science Account Executive @ Carta
  • Client Strategist @ PwC


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FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • Designate specific people to cover very specific topics in the interview process so they can get really good at those core competencies. Leave the generic questions to another company.
  • When you got them hooked, talk them out of it. If you can talk them out of it, they wouldn’t have worked out anyway.
  • Sell early, grill after. Get someone to opt in by selling them on your goals and your mission. Then, gain their respect by grilling the heck out of them.
  • Each step in the process should test for different dimensions of sales and should be handled by different people with that expertise.



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FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • Designate specific people to cover very specific topics in the interview process so they can get really good at those core competencies. Leave the generic questions to another company.
  • When you got them hooked, talk them out of it. If you can talk them out of it, they wouldn’t have worked out anyway.
  • Sell early, grill after. Get someone to opt in by selling them on your goals and your mission. Then, gain their respect by grilling the heck out of them.
  • Each step in the process should test for different dimensions of sales and should be handled by different people with that expertise.



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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • If you feel like you have leverage in a deal, but haven't gotten in front of the right stakeholders to progress the deal, use that as a non-negotiable to begin negotiations
  • Sit down and write down your own "Gives" and "Gets" that you can trade with your buyer during a sales cycle
  • Someone liking your offering does not make them an effective champion, ask questions like "Is {title} aware of these conversations?" to test them
  • When trying to get access to power use labelling statements like "I often hear {title} likes to weigh in, is that the same for you?"


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Account Executive @ Webflow
  • Account Executive @ SafeGraph
  • Account Executive @ Procore Technologies


RESOURCES DISCUSSED

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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • If you feel like you have leverage in a deal, but haven't gotten in front of the right stakeholders to progress the deal, use that as a non-negotiable to begin negotiations
  • Sit down and write down your own "Gives" and "Gets" that you can trade with your buyer during a sales cycle
  • Someone liking your offering does not make them an effective champion, ask questions like "Is {title} aware of these conversations?" to test them
  • When trying to get access to power use labelling statements like "I often hear {title} likes to weigh in, is that the same for you?"


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Account Executive @ Webflow
  • Account Executive @ SafeGraph
  • Account Executive @ Procore Technologies


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Published 2024-04-22

#287 - Hall of Fame: Krysten Conner

30 min
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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Start with a menu of pain: the 3 biggest problems that any given persona can face.
  • Once you align on the problem, ask, “What’s prompting that need?”.
  • You can start talking about solutions once you have an executive-level problem (e.g. down round, churn problem).
  • Use individual contributors, like AEs, for inside intel on the organization. Then use their quotes on 1-2 slides when meeting with VP or CXO.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Enterprise Account Executive @ UserGems
  • Enterprise+ Account Executive @ Outreach
  • Enterprise Accounts, Financial Services @ Tableau Software
  • Strategic Accounts @ PowerSchool


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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Start with a menu of pain: the 3 biggest problems that any given persona can face.
  • Once you align on the problem, ask, “What’s prompting that need?”.
  • You can start talking about solutions once you have an executive-level problem (e.g. down round, churn problem).
  • Use individual contributors, like AEs, for inside intel on the organization. Then use their quotes on 1-2 slides when meeting with VP or CXO.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Enterprise Account Executive @ UserGems
  • Enterprise+ Account Executive @ Outreach
  • Enterprise Accounts, Financial Services @ Tableau Software
  • Strategic Accounts @ PowerSchool


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FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • Name and define your competencies
  • Be extremely intentional about how you are going to interview those competencies. Get into the nitty gritty about how you are going to assess for work ethic.
  • Test for traits like IQ, EQ, coachability, and work ethic earlier in the process as they are the hardest to teach. Industry domain expertise and even skills like prospecting are much easier to teach.
  • Match sales cycle and sales environment. Don’t put an SMB rep into an enterprise role and don’t put an Oracle rep into the first sales hire role at a startup.



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FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • Name and define your competencies
  • Be extremely intentional about how you are going to interview those competencies. Get into the nitty gritty about how you are going to assess for work ethic.
  • Test for traits like IQ, EQ, coachability, and work ethic earlier in the process as they are the hardest to teach. Industry domain expertise and even skills like prospecting are much easier to teach.
  • Match sales cycle and sales environment. Don’t put an SMB rep into an enterprise role and don’t put an Oracle rep into the first sales hire role at a startup.



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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Break into prospects when they are speaking at conferences. If you see somebody from the really-tough-to-break-into account speaking at a conference, go to their talk and sit in that talk. At the end, introduce yourself to the speaker and make a point of connection with them.
  • Avoid name-dropping obscure customers. When you are prospecting into more sensitive industries, don't name-drop non-publicly referenceable customers.
  • Your goal is to get into the talk-to folder. You want to be in that folder so that they know who to contact when something bad happens.
  • Think creatively with your outreach. We are not just limited to emails and phone calls and DMs. Be present where they're coming together.



PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Strategic Enterprise Sales @ Rubrick, Inc.
  • Strategic Enterprise Sales @ People.ai
  • Enterprise Sales @ App Dynamics
  • Enterprise Sales @ Xactly Corp



RESOURCES DISCUSSED

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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Break into prospects when they are speaking at conferences. If you see somebody from the really-tough-to-break-into account speaking at a conference, go to their talk and sit in that talk. At the end, introduce yourself to the speaker and make a point of connection with them.
  • Avoid name-dropping obscure customers. When you are prospecting into more sensitive industries, don't name-drop non-publicly referenceable customers.
  • Your goal is to get into the talk-to folder. You want to be in that folder so that they know who to contact when something bad happens.
  • Think creatively with your outreach. We are not just limited to emails and phone calls and DMs. Be present where they're coming together.



PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Strategic Enterprise Sales @ Rubrick, Inc.
  • Strategic Enterprise Sales @ People.ai
  • Enterprise Sales @ App Dynamics
  • Enterprise Sales @ Xactly Corp



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Published 2024-04-15

#284 - Hall of Fame: Charly Johnson

30 min
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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Start your email with research personalization to stand out in the inbox (vs generic greeting).
  • Quote the prospect/company directly by researching where the company is investing its money (e.g. in job postings, funding announcements).
  • Use a more humanized approach when prospecting. Sharing something you both have in common in the P.S. is a great place to add a human touch.
  • Reach out to your prospect immediately after they engage with your content - no need to wait for the next sequence step.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Senior Account Executive @ Salesloft
  • Team Lead, Sales Development @ Integrate
  • SDR @ Akkroo, an Integrate company
  • Enterprise SDR @ PatSnap


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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Start your email with research personalization to stand out in the inbox (vs generic greeting).
  • Quote the prospect/company directly by researching where the company is investing its money (e.g. in job postings, funding announcements).
  • Use a more humanized approach when prospecting. Sharing something you both have in common in the P.S. is a great place to add a human touch.
  • Reach out to your prospect immediately after they engage with your content - no need to wait for the next sequence step.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Senior Account Executive @ Salesloft
  • Team Lead, Sales Development @ Integrate
  • SDR @ Akkroo, an Integrate company
  • Enterprise SDR @ PatSnap


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FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • The best reps never ask the same question twice.
  • Turn pressure to productivity. Our job as leaders isn’t to pass pressure; it’s to use pressure to get more out of our reps.
  • Ask your reps, “I look forward to seeing how you answer that question.”
  • Listen early, join late. Pre-prep and game planning will save you some time in the long run.



PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Manager, Commercial Sales @ Gong
  • Mid-Market Account Executive @ Gong
  • Senior Commercial Account Executive @ Gong
  • Commercial Account Executive @ Gong



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FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • The best reps never ask the same question twice.
  • Turn pressure to productivity. Our job as leaders isn’t to pass pressure; it’s to use pressure to get more out of our reps.
  • Ask your reps, “I look forward to seeing how you answer that question.”
  • Listen early, join late. Pre-prep and game planning will save you some time in the long run.



PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Manager, Commercial Sales @ Gong
  • Mid-Market Account Executive @ Gong
  • Senior Commercial Account Executive @ Gong
  • Commercial Account Executive @ Gong



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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • To learn about what’s going on in other parts of your organization, get on the email alias distribution lists.
  • Build out your go team of people that you can rely on in legal, product, marketing, deal desk, etc. so that you’re never stuck trying to figure out how to get a function to help you with a deal.
  • To determine the next steps and what’s important to a buyer, ask, “Say you’re evaluating a few technologies, and they’re similar. What are the things that make you pick one over the other?”
  • When dealing with technical buyers, always under promise so you don't lose credibility.



PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Named Account Manager - Digital Natives UK @ Databricks
  • Named Account Manager - Digital Natives @ Databricks
  • Snr Manager, Commercial Sales, ANZ @ Databricks
  • Enterprise Account Executive @ Databricks



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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • To learn about what’s going on in other parts of your organization, get on the email alias distribution lists.
  • Build out your go team of people that you can rely on in legal, product, marketing, deal desk, etc. so that you’re never stuck trying to figure out how to get a function to help you with a deal.
  • To determine the next steps and what’s important to a buyer, ask, “Say you’re evaluating a few technologies, and they’re similar. What are the things that make you pick one over the other?”
  • When dealing with technical buyers, always under promise so you don't lose credibility.



PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Named Account Manager - Digital Natives UK @ Databricks
  • Named Account Manager - Digital Natives @ Databricks
  • Snr Manager, Commercial Sales, ANZ @ Databricks
  • Enterprise Account Executive @ Databricks



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#281 - Hall of Fame: Stephen Guerguy

32 min
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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Challenge your prospect on fit early and often to test buy-in.
  • Set landmines for competitors during the requirement-gathering phase.
  • Require an exec-level bridge with your CEO instead of spending hours on an RFP.
  • Use carrots to drive close when internal compelling events are lacking.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Head of Strategic Accounts @ Monte Carlo
  • Enterprise Sales Leader @ Monte Carlo
  • Former Enterprise Sales @ Segment (acquired by Twilio)
  • Former Commercial Sales / Founding AE @ WePay (acquired by JP Morgan Chase)


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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Challenge your prospect on fit early and often to test buy-in.
  • Set landmines for competitors during the requirement-gathering phase.
  • Require an exec-level bridge with your CEO instead of spending hours on an RFP.
  • Use carrots to drive close when internal compelling events are lacking.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Head of Strategic Accounts @ Monte Carlo
  • Enterprise Sales Leader @ Monte Carlo
  • Former Enterprise Sales @ Segment (acquired by Twilio)
  • Former Commercial Sales / Founding AE @ WePay (acquired by JP Morgan Chase)


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FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • Booked meetings over the last 2 quarters times conversion rate = early quarter forecast for SDRs.
  • There's a top-down financial plan and a bottoms-up forecast. Use that to calibrate the SDR team on exactly what they need to attack to hit their number but ensure we don't put pressure on the AE team when they walk into quarters with low coverage.
  • Everyone has to forecast at top of funnel. Marketing, SDR, even the account directors should have top of funnel quotas to meet. All of those roll up into one big bottoms-up forecast that tell you if you're gonna hit your number in three months.
  • How you leave the batter's box matters. Make SDR forecasting easier by getting half of your meetings on the books already. After the third objection, have your SDRs tell the prospect that they’ll reach out again in 30 days and have them send a five minute hold as a reminder. They will enter the next month.



PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • VP of Inside Sales @ Clari
  • Global Head of Inside Sides and Revenue Development @ Clari
  • Director of Sales @ Clari
  • Enterprise Sales Director, West @ Clari



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FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • Booked meetings over the last 2 quarters times conversion rate = early quarter forecast for SDRs.
  • There's a top-down financial plan and a bottoms-up forecast. Use that to calibrate the SDR team on exactly what they need to attack to hit their number but ensure we don't put pressure on the AE team when they walk into quarters with low coverage.
  • Everyone has to forecast at top of funnel. Marketing, SDR, even the account directors should have top of funnel quotas to meet. All of those roll up into one big bottoms-up forecast that tell you if you're gonna hit your number in three months.
  • How you leave the batter's box matters. Make SDR forecasting easier by getting half of your meetings on the books already. After the third objection, have your SDRs tell the prospect that they’ll reach out again in 30 days and have them send a five minute hold as a reminder. They will enter the next month.



PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • VP of Inside Sales @ Clari
  • Global Head of Inside Sides and Revenue Development @ Clari
  • Director of Sales @ Clari
  • Enterprise Sales Director, West @ Clari



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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • If you don’t have enough pain, ask for some documentation prior to the demo.
  • The SE should reaffirm and ADD 15 minutes of discovery on the front end of the call.
  • Link the demo portions specifically back to WHO SAID they had the problem.
  • Give your champion an email sequence to share with people during the PoC.



PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Senior Manager, Sales Engineering @ Grammarly
  • Senior Sales Engineer, Value Realization Lead @ Grammarly
  • Sales Engineer @ Grammarly
  • Solutions Consulting & Customer Insights @ Onera, Inc.



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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • If you don’t have enough pain, ask for some documentation prior to the demo.
  • The SE should reaffirm and ADD 15 minutes of discovery on the front end of the call.
  • Link the demo portions specifically back to WHO SAID they had the problem.
  • Give your champion an email sequence to share with people during the PoC.



PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Senior Manager, Sales Engineering @ Grammarly
  • Senior Sales Engineer, Value Realization Lead @ Grammarly
  • Sales Engineer @ Grammarly
  • Solutions Consulting & Customer Insights @ Onera, Inc.



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ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Do the opposite of every single thing Corporate Bro Says
  • Listen to Corporate Bro on his podcast Demoted
  • Follow Corporate Bro on social: Instagram and YouTube


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  • Do the opposite of every single thing Corporate Bro Says
  • Listen to Corporate Bro on his podcast Demoted
  • Follow Corporate Bro on social: Instagram and YouTube


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FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • Effective Monday Team Meetings. Add an element of fun to your Monday meetings. Follow the framework: Connect, Learn, Communicate, and Prioritize.
  • Tuning Your Discount Matrix. Look at your current avg. discount, then make the matrix a bit better. Get a little incremental revenue out of improving discounting.
  • The multi-Year Deal Grid. Show where a customer’s cost might change as they grow / shrink. But don’t pre-agree to growth.
  • Speedy Meetings Are Better Meetings. Consider starting all of your meetings at the :05 mark to avoid perpetual call delays and unfocused discussions.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • VP of Sales @ Multiplier
  • Limited Partner @ GTMfund
  • Head of Sales, New Products @ Lattice
  • Director of Sales, Strategic & Corporate @ Lattice


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FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • Effective Monday Team Meetings. Add an element of fun to your Monday meetings. Follow the framework: Connect, Learn, Communicate, and Prioritize.
  • Tuning Your Discount Matrix. Look at your current avg. discount, then make the matrix a bit better. Get a little incremental revenue out of improving discounting.
  • The multi-Year Deal Grid. Show where a customer’s cost might change as they grow / shrink. But don’t pre-agree to growth.
  • Speedy Meetings Are Better Meetings. Consider starting all of your meetings at the :05 mark to avoid perpetual call delays and unfocused discussions.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • VP of Sales @ Multiplier
  • Limited Partner @ GTMfund
  • Head of Sales, New Products @ Lattice
  • Director of Sales, Strategic & Corporate @ Lattice


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Caitlin’s Checklist to Brief Your Execs Before Calls: www.30mpc.com/newsletter/checklist-to-brief-your-execs-before-sales-calls

FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Explain things in your customer’s language. Adapt data and demos to how the customer works and thinks.
  • Involve your champion in every customer touchpoint because they will help share context and help be your co-quarterback for the deal.
  • Ask your buyer to correct you. When you get to the point of the sale where you’re walking through next steps for evaluation, be ok with being corrected.
  • Go beyond the basics when an internal call partner joins your meeting. Ask questions specific to them - their business challenges, or what does success look like for them.



PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Enterprise Account Executive @ Deel
  • Enterprise Revenue Director @ Clari
  • Mid-Market Revenue Director @ Clari
  • Commercial Revenue Director @ Clari



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Caitlin’s Checklist to Brief Your Execs Before Calls: www.30mpc.com/newsletter/checklist-to-brief-your-execs-before-sales-calls

FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Explain things in your customer’s language. Adapt data and demos to how the customer works and thinks.
  • Involve your champion in every customer touchpoint because they will help share context and help be your co-quarterback for the deal.
  • Ask your buyer to correct you. When you get to the point of the sale where you’re walking through next steps for evaluation, be ok with being corrected.
  • Go beyond the basics when an internal call partner joins your meeting. Ask questions specific to them - their business challenges, or what does success look like for them.



PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Enterprise Account Executive @ Deel
  • Enterprise Revenue Director @ Clari
  • Mid-Market Revenue Director @ Clari
  • Commercial Revenue Director @ Clari



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Published 2024-03-25

#275 - Hall of Fame: Cory Bray

29 min
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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS:

  • Establish next steps at the end of your meeting to prepare yourself for new stakeholders / questions.
  • Avoid open-ended q’s, instead use “typically” or “usually” language to demonstrate credibility.
  • Keep your demo’s interactive by asking the prospect what jumps out to them right away.
  • Start your demo’s with the exciting outcomes and work backwards to reality (integrations, permissions)


COREY'S PATH TO PRESIDENT'S CLUB:

  • Co-Founder @ CoachCRM
  • Co-Founder & Board Member @ ClozeLoop
  • Co-Author of The Sales Enablement Playbook, Sales Development, and Sales Playbooks: The Builder's Toolkit
  • Head of Sales @ Ravel Law


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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS:

  • Establish next steps at the end of your meeting to prepare yourself for new stakeholders / questions.
  • Avoid open-ended q’s, instead use “typically” or “usually” language to demonstrate credibility.
  • Keep your demo’s interactive by asking the prospect what jumps out to them right away.
  • Start your demo’s with the exciting outcomes and work backwards to reality (integrations, permissions)


COREY'S PATH TO PRESIDENT'S CLUB:

  • Co-Founder @ CoachCRM
  • Co-Founder & Board Member @ ClozeLoop
  • Co-Author of The Sales Enablement Playbook, Sales Development, and Sales Playbooks: The Builder's Toolkit
  • Head of Sales @ Ravel Law


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Published 2024-03-22

Product Roadmap: Q2 2024

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Q2 ROADMAP


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FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • Increase the surface area of your luck. Sometimes, getting promoted takes luck. So help out as much as possible in all the places you can.
  • Don’t let a slow burn hurt others. If a rep isn’t ready to be promoted, provide feedback early. Don’t create an environment where a toxic attitude spreads.
  • Test drive managers before promoting. Insert the best candidate in actual situations. Communicate your decision with the team so everyone is on the same page.
  • Make prospecting initiatives universal. If you’re driving your team to outbound — update your hiring profile, team meetings, and dashboards. Make it crystal clear


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • VP of Sales @ Guesty
  • VP of Sales & Customer Success @ Capchase
  • VP of Sales & Partnerships @ Alibaba Group
  • Dir. of Sales @ Alibaba Group


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FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • Increase the surface area of your luck. Sometimes, getting promoted takes luck. So help out as much as possible in all the places you can.
  • Don’t let a slow burn hurt others. If a rep isn’t ready to be promoted, provide feedback early. Don’t create an environment where a toxic attitude spreads.
  • Test drive managers before promoting. Insert the best candidate in actual situations. Communicate your decision with the team so everyone is on the same page.
  • Make prospecting initiatives universal. If you’re driving your team to outbound — update your hiring profile, team meetings, and dashboards. Make it crystal clear


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • VP of Sales @ Guesty
  • VP of Sales & Customer Success @ Capchase
  • VP of Sales & Partnerships @ Alibaba Group
  • Dir. of Sales @ Alibaba Group


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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • When you’re doing a POC, you should be surveying the users and participants in that POC about their experience.
  • If you’re working in a fairly technical sale, don’t shy away from answering technical questions with your depth of understanding, but let the customer know that is your depth of understanding.
  • Use a pre-POC questionnaire to ensure that the champion is the right person to lead the POC.
  • Do a POC kickoff call to set yourself up for success.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Enterprise Account Executive, Financial Services @ Databricks
  • Account Executive, Commercial @ Databricks
  • Sr. Account Executive, Mid-Market @ Databricks
  • Sr. Account Executive @ Datafox


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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • When you’re doing a POC, you should be surveying the users and participants in that POC about their experience.
  • If you’re working in a fairly technical sale, don’t shy away from answering technical questions with your depth of understanding, but let the customer know that is your depth of understanding.
  • Use a pre-POC questionnaire to ensure that the champion is the right person to lead the POC.
  • Do a POC kickoff call to set yourself up for success.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Enterprise Account Executive, Financial Services @ Databricks
  • Account Executive, Commercial @ Databricks
  • Sr. Account Executive, Mid-Market @ Databricks
  • Sr. Account Executive @ Datafox


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#272 - Hall of Fame: Doug Landis

32 min
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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Don’t just set an agenda. Use PPO (purpose, plan, outcome) to set clear expectations for you and your prospect.
  • Avoid deep-diving into features until you've established “why change?” and “why now?”.
  • Show up to your discovery with a theory about their pains and your solutions. Don’t just start peppering questions.
  • Soften the CTA with “would you be open to” instead of heavier asks before the customer is ready to dive deep.


PATH TO PRESIDENT'S CLUB

  • Growth Partner @ Emergence Capital
  • Chief Storyteller @ Box
  • VP of Sales & Productivity @ Box
  • Sr Director, Corporate Sales Productivity @ Salesforce


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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Don’t just set an agenda. Use PPO (purpose, plan, outcome) to set clear expectations for you and your prospect.
  • Avoid deep-diving into features until you've established “why change?” and “why now?”.
  • Show up to your discovery with a theory about their pains and your solutions. Don’t just start peppering questions.
  • Soften the CTA with “would you be open to” instead of heavier asks before the customer is ready to dive deep.


PATH TO PRESIDENT'S CLUB

  • Growth Partner @ Emergence Capital
  • Chief Storyteller @ Box
  • VP of Sales & Productivity @ Box
  • Sr Director, Corporate Sales Productivity @ Salesforce


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Chase Macaione's Discovery Call Prep Sheet & Guide

FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • How engaged someone is on LinkedIn is a proxy of how good of a champion they'll be for you as a buyer.
  • What you do in a call differs from what you want to get out of a call. The agenda is what you want to do, but make sure to explicitly say what you want to have coming out of the call.
  • Have reps come in with a hypothesis or a POV based on what they see about the company. If the company is shrinking, the way you do discovery will be different from if it is growing.
  • List out discovery questions to get people from high-level pain to deeper pain.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Director of Commercial Sales @ Zip
  • Sales Director @ Celonis
  • Strategic Account Executive @ Celonis
  • Regional Sales Manager @ Oracle


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Chase Macaione's Discovery Call Prep Sheet & Guide

FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • How engaged someone is on LinkedIn is a proxy of how good of a champion they'll be for you as a buyer.
  • What you do in a call differs from what you want to get out of a call. The agenda is what you want to do, but make sure to explicitly say what you want to have coming out of the call.
  • Have reps come in with a hypothesis or a POV based on what they see about the company. If the company is shrinking, the way you do discovery will be different from if it is growing.
  • List out discovery questions to get people from high-level pain to deeper pain.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Director of Commercial Sales @ Zip
  • Sales Director @ Celonis
  • Strategic Account Executive @ Celonis
  • Regional Sales Manager @ Oracle


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Every 10th episode, we tear down one topic. This time, we’re talking about objections.

ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Most objections are actually reactions. So if you know how to handle the reaction, you’ll swat away any objection.
  • The intro to the Mr. Miyagi method - agree with the objection to remove the pressure, incentivize conversation to get them to share more about the objection, and sell the test drive.
  • For dismissive objections be disarmingly blunt; for “not interested” objections, handle the reaction, not the objection; for situational objections, like “no budget”, or “too expensive”, remove the pressure of the sale entirely.
  • Existing solution objections like “we already use X (your competitor)” are essentially “not interested” objections in disguise. Tackle them as such.


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Every 10th episode, we tear down one topic. This time, we’re talking about objections.

ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Most objections are actually reactions. So if you know how to handle the reaction, you’ll swat away any objection.
  • The intro to the Mr. Miyagi method - agree with the objection to remove the pressure, incentivize conversation to get them to share more about the objection, and sell the test drive.
  • For dismissive objections be disarmingly blunt; for “not interested” objections, handle the reaction, not the objection; for situational objections, like “no budget”, or “too expensive”, remove the pressure of the sale entirely.
  • Existing solution objections like “we already use X (your competitor)” are essentially “not interested” objections in disguise. Tackle them as such.


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#269 - Hall of Fame: Keenan

32 min
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Four Actionable Takeaways:

* Don’t talk about root causes/technicalities until you get to the business impact first.

* Condense the problem you solve into a single sentence - stop overcomplicating things.

* Lean on their desired future state instead of talking about the past.

* Get to the question/reason behind those unexpected/general questions.


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Keenan’s Path to President’s Club:

* CEO @ Noted Analytics

* CEO @ A Sales Guy Consulting

* Author of Gap Selling

* Author of Not Taught


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* Don’t talk about root causes/technicalities until you get to the business impact first.

* Condense the problem you solve into a single sentence - stop overcomplicating things.

* Lean on their desired future state instead of talking about the past.

* Get to the question/reason behind those unexpected/general questions.


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Keenan’s Path to President’s Club:

* CEO @ Noted Analytics

* CEO @ A Sales Guy Consulting

* Author of Gap Selling

* Author of Not Taught


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FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • When you are trying to clone that first rep, make sure that you don’t confuse personality with skill set.
  • Your customers have the answers. Talk to your customers.
  • Do not do the things that you're horrible at. Hire for the things that are not your strengths.
  • Invest your time in enablement. You and your reps should track how you win each deal for ongoing development.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • VP, Sales @ Tenderly
  • Founding Member, First Hires Program @ First Round Capital
  • Director, Enterprise Sales @ Drift
  • VP, Sales @ AltoCloud


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FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • When you are trying to clone that first rep, make sure that you don’t confuse personality with skill set.
  • Your customers have the answers. Talk to your customers.
  • Do not do the things that you're horrible at. Hire for the things that are not your strengths.
  • Invest your time in enablement. You and your reps should track how you win each deal for ongoing development.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • VP, Sales @ Tenderly
  • Founding Member, First Hires Program @ First Round Capital
  • Director, Enterprise Sales @ Drift
  • VP, Sales @ AltoCloud


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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • If you say yes to doing something for a prospect and then realize you shouldn’t have offered that, call them to apologize.
  • If you are giving reasons to a prospect for why something they asked for is not the best idea, make those reasons about them and in their best interest.
  • Don't chase tennis balls. Create equal footing by getting something before we just jump to giving.
  • Be a guide, not a servant. Buyers are not looking for us to say yes to everything. Evaluate every ask through “is this actually the best way for the buyer to get what they're looking for?”


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Founder @ DiscoveryCoach.io
  • Sales Enablement Manager @ AlphaSense
  • Lead Revenue Enablement Manager @ CB Insights
  • Senior Sales Training Manager @ CB Insights


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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • If you say yes to doing something for a prospect and then realize you shouldn’t have offered that, call them to apologize.
  • If you are giving reasons to a prospect for why something they asked for is not the best idea, make those reasons about them and in their best interest.
  • Don't chase tennis balls. Create equal footing by getting something before we just jump to giving.
  • Be a guide, not a servant. Buyers are not looking for us to say yes to everything. Evaluate every ask through “is this actually the best way for the buyer to get what they're looking for?”


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Founder @ DiscoveryCoach.io
  • Sales Enablement Manager @ AlphaSense
  • Lead Revenue Enablement Manager @ CB Insights
  • Senior Sales Training Manager @ CB Insights


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#266 - Hall of Fame: Jeb Blount

29 min
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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Eat the frog by committing to prospecting first thing in the morning.
  • Handle objections differently with a ledge (ledge > disrupt statement > ask).
  • Handle ‘existing solution’ objections by offering value to keep the other guys honest.
  • Get past gatekeepers with respect, giving specific value, and providing social proof.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • CEO @ Sales Gravy
  • Author or 13 books including Fanatical Prospecting, Virtual Selling, and Inked.
  • VP of Sales @ kgb
  • VP Sales @ Sales Gravy


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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Eat the frog by committing to prospecting first thing in the morning.
  • Handle objections differently with a ledge (ledge > disrupt statement > ask).
  • Handle ‘existing solution’ objections by offering value to keep the other guys honest.
  • Get past gatekeepers with respect, giving specific value, and providing social proof.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • CEO @ Sales Gravy
  • Author or 13 books including Fanatical Prospecting, Virtual Selling, and Inked.
  • VP of Sales @ kgb
  • VP Sales @ Sales Gravy


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The "Heard The Name Tossed Around Opener" - The first ever viral sales tactic I released is the opener that helped me book 1 in 3 cold calls. It's yours to steal now.


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TIMESTAMPS

(00:00) Intro

(01:34) Traditional Openers

(02:21) Intro Heard The Name Tossed Around Opener

(02:38) Lead With Common Thread

(03:05) Introduce Yourself

(03:18) Have You Heard Our Name Tossed Around?

(03:20) Talk Track

(03:38) Breakdown

(08:20) Recap

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(00:00) Intro

(01:34) Traditional Openers

(02:21) Intro Heard The Name Tossed Around Opener

(02:38) Lead With Common Thread

(03:05) Introduce Yourself

(03:18) Have You Heard Our Name Tossed Around?

(03:20) Talk Track

(03:38) Breakdown

(08:20) Recap

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FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • Have two one-on-ones in a week. One that talks deals and one focused on your rep as a person. Investing in a person always pays off with better deals.
  • Practice breathwork at the beginning of your team meetings. It will help your team feel relaxed and engaged.
  • Have one rep teach one mini skill builder for 5-10 minutes at the end of your team meetings.
  • If one of those mini skill builders hits well, have a longer session around it. Use the mini skill builders training to test for things your team wants to be trained on. That’s how you build a powerful training program.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Founder & CEO @ Alluviance
  • Director of Sales @ Catalyst Software
  • Director of Sales, Commercial @ Outreach
  • Sales Director, Corporate @ Outreach


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FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • Have two one-on-ones in a week. One that talks deals and one focused on your rep as a person. Investing in a person always pays off with better deals.
  • Practice breathwork at the beginning of your team meetings. It will help your team feel relaxed and engaged.
  • Have one rep teach one mini skill builder for 5-10 minutes at the end of your team meetings.
  • If one of those mini skill builders hits well, have a longer session around it. Use the mini skill builders training to test for things your team wants to be trained on. That’s how you build a powerful training program.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Founder & CEO @ Alluviance
  • Director of Sales @ Catalyst Software
  • Director of Sales, Commercial @ Outreach
  • Sales Director, Corporate @ Outreach


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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Do not neglect internal research when you're preparing for a sales call. Find out if your company has spoken to them before and dig internally.
  • Prep for your sales calls by understanding lookalike conversations your team has had in the past.
  • Use the lighthouse email to engage someone at the top, mid-deal cycle. Don’t just pull them into the boat. Let them know that the boat is there and you have an awesome champion so they can affirm you’re in the right place.
  • Don’t say “AI” in your sales call. Instead, focus on the problem they want to solve and what they want to do.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Co-Founder @ Handoffs
  • Director, Sales @ Sendoso
  • Manager, MM & ENT Sales @ Sendoso
  • Founding Account Executive @ Sendoso


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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Do not neglect internal research when you're preparing for a sales call. Find out if your company has spoken to them before and dig internally.
  • Prep for your sales calls by understanding lookalike conversations your team has had in the past.
  • Use the lighthouse email to engage someone at the top, mid-deal cycle. Don’t just pull them into the boat. Let them know that the boat is there and you have an awesome champion so they can affirm you’re in the right place.
  • Don’t say “AI” in your sales call. Instead, focus on the problem they want to solve and what they want to do.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Co-Founder @ Handoffs
  • Director, Sales @ Sendoso
  • Manager, MM & ENT Sales @ Sendoso
  • Founding Account Executive @ Sendoso


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Published 2024-02-26

#262 - Hall of Fame: Josh Braun

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Four Actionable Takeaways: 

  • Figure out the cost of inaction when a prospect says “this isn’t a priority right now”.
  • Sell from the buyer’s perspective w/ Poke the Bear to gain interest before you talk about your product.
  • Mirror the “not interested” to figure out the real objection (relevance, comiss. breath, bad time).
  • A/B test cold call opens (Poke the Bear/New Content) to figure out what works best for you.


Josh’s Path to President’s Club:

  • Founder @ Josh Braun Sales Training
  • Former Head of Sales @ Basecamp
  • Former VP of Inside Sales @ Jellyvision


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Four Actionable Takeaways: 

  • Figure out the cost of inaction when a prospect says “this isn’t a priority right now”.
  • Sell from the buyer’s perspective w/ Poke the Bear to gain interest before you talk about your product.
  • Mirror the “not interested” to figure out the real objection (relevance, comiss. breath, bad time).
  • A/B test cold call opens (Poke the Bear/New Content) to figure out what works best for you.


Josh’s Path to President’s Club:

  • Founder @ Josh Braun Sales Training
  • Former Head of Sales @ Basecamp
  • Former VP of Inside Sales @ Jellyvision


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Check out Jake’s new book The Innovative Seller: Keeping Peace in an AI and Consumer-Centric World and order your copy today!

FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • Allocate your time into now, near future, and far future to identify true priorities. Use two-week blocks to understand where those priorities fall at any given time.
  • When managing promotion expectations of reps, communication and clarity from you as a leader is the only way you can help them move up their place in line.
  • Hitting numbers is table stakes, so be clear on what the above-and-beyond things are that get your reps to the front of the list.
  • Figure out the problem that nibbles 20% percent of your day every single day and solve the entire thing before that consumes the entire 100% of your day.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • CEO @ Skaled Consulting
  • VP Sales @ Nowait, Inc. (acquired by Yelp)
  • Head of Sales & Customer Success @ Chartbeat
  • Vice President of Sales, Success, and Sales Operations @ Glassdoor


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Check out Jake’s new book The Innovative Seller: Keeping Peace in an AI and Consumer-Centric World and order your copy today!

FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • Allocate your time into now, near future, and far future to identify true priorities. Use two-week blocks to understand where those priorities fall at any given time.
  • When managing promotion expectations of reps, communication and clarity from you as a leader is the only way you can help them move up their place in line.
  • Hitting numbers is table stakes, so be clear on what the above-and-beyond things are that get your reps to the front of the list.
  • Figure out the problem that nibbles 20% percent of your day every single day and solve the entire thing before that consumes the entire 100% of your day.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • CEO @ Skaled Consulting
  • VP Sales @ Nowait, Inc. (acquired by Yelp)
  • Head of Sales & Customer Success @ Chartbeat
  • Vice President of Sales, Success, and Sales Operations @ Glassdoor


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Register for the Tactic Teardown on how to beat any objection in a cold call.

FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Use “That’s exactly why I called.” When your prospect shares a problem or a priority that they have, make that your reason for booking a meeting and go right in for the close on the cold call.
  • Call nine before nine, and five after five. Those early morning and evening dials can be some of the best ways to increase your connect rate with hard-to-reach prospects.
  • After your opener, go through the parts of your pitch, but end with an open-ended question.
  • You can either go into “That’s why we should meet” if they give you those three priorities or roll with the objection - “Let me tell you how we work alongside and supplement a recruiter.”


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Senior Business Development Manager @ Pareto
  • Senior Account Executive @ Pareto
  • Account Executive @ Pareto
  • Business Development Representative @ Pareto


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Register for the Tactic Teardown on how to beat any objection in a cold call.

FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

  • Use “That’s exactly why I called.” When your prospect shares a problem or a priority that they have, make that your reason for booking a meeting and go right in for the close on the cold call.
  • Call nine before nine, and five after five. Those early morning and evening dials can be some of the best ways to increase your connect rate with hard-to-reach prospects.
  • After your opener, go through the parts of your pitch, but end with an open-ended question.
  • You can either go into “That’s why we should meet” if they give you those three priorities or roll with the objection - “Let me tell you how we work alongside and supplement a recruiter.”


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • Senior Business Development Manager @ Pareto
  • Senior Account Executive @ Pareto
  • Account Executive @ Pareto
  • Business Development Representative @ Pareto


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Published 2024-02-19

#258 - Hall of Fame: Joe Diliberto

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Four Actionable Takeaways: 

* Use an UFC at the beginning of your meeting to anchor customers to next steps at the end.

* Use an UFC at the end of your meeting to anchor to outcomes of the following meeting.

* Demonstrate active listening and credibility by pausing to dig in deeper when uncovering a truth.

* When surprised by a hard stop...establish an even shorter stop to figure out if the time is even needed.


Path to President’s Club:

* President/Owner @ Sandler Training SF


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Four Actionable Takeaways: 

* Use an UFC at the beginning of your meeting to anchor customers to next steps at the end.

* Use an UFC at the end of your meeting to anchor to outcomes of the following meeting.

* Demonstrate active listening and credibility by pausing to dig in deeper when uncovering a truth.

* When surprised by a hard stop...establish an even shorter stop to figure out if the time is even needed.


Path to President’s Club:

* President/Owner @ Sandler Training SF


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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS:

  • Pre-research your subject for a more personalized cold call that makes the interaction intentional and human. It tells them you’ve taken the time to get to know them.
  • Use a permission-based opener to make your prospect feel like they are choosing to speak with you.
  • Deliver your opener with conviction, and bring energy and enthusiasm. Build this as you pre-research because if you believe it, they’ll be more likely to believe it.
  • Execute a 3YU, aka 3 reasons that you are calling that are personal to them, and opens the door for WHY they would want to use your product.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB:

  • Sr. Mid Market Account Executive @ Gong
  • Senior Account Executive @ Tropic
  • Mid-Market Account Executive @ Gong
  • Senior Account Executive @ Gong


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FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS:

  • Pre-research your subject for a more personalized cold call that makes the interaction intentional and human. It tells them you’ve taken the time to get to know them.
  • Use a permission-based opener to make your prospect feel like they are choosing to speak with you.
  • Deliver your opener with conviction, and bring energy and enthusiasm. Build this as you pre-research because if you believe it, they’ll be more likely to believe it.
  • Execute a 3YU, aka 3 reasons that you are calling that are personal to them, and opens the door for WHY they would want to use your product.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB:

  • Sr. Mid Market Account Executive @ Gong
  • Senior Account Executive @ Tropic
  • Mid-Market Account Executive @ Gong
  • Senior Account Executive @ Gong


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FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • Prep your reps on both what they should get out of the call and how they plan to get it
  • Pay special attention to how your reps nail the first 7 golden minutes, that’s where discovery is made
  • When you’re on that call, listen for anything that you can quantify. Jump in if your reps don’t catch it.
  • Coach to the controllable. Start with the expectations, then hold them accountable.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • VP of Sales @ Convertr
  • Sr. Manager of Strategic Sales @ RollWorks
  • Manager, New Business Sales @ RollWorks
  • Strategic Sales @ Pendo.io


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FOUR ACTIONABLE LEADERSHIP TAKEAWAYS

  • Prep your reps on both what they should get out of the call and how they plan to get it
  • Pay special attention to how your reps nail the first 7 golden minutes, that’s where discovery is made
  • When you’re on that call, listen for anything that you can quantify. Jump in if your reps don’t catch it.
  • Coach to the controllable. Start with the expectations, then hold them accountable.


PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB

  • VP of Sales @ Convertr
  • Sr. Manager of Strategic Sales @ RollWorks
  • Manager, New Business Sales @ RollWorks
  • Strategic Sales @ Pendo.io


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